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Post subject: Piling On  PostPosted: Oct 12, 2006 - 02:47 PM



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Just started playing a new league using 5.0 with my Undead team The Daisy Pushers.

The revised Piling On rule looks quite powerful (re-roll Armour or Injury roll). However:

Do you have to decide to use Piling On before rolling the first Armour roll, or can you wit until you fail an Armour or Injury roll before deciding whether or not to use Pling On? I know this has chopped and changed over the years, but the 5.0 rule does not appear clear.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Oct 12, 2006 - 03:37 PM



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You would wait to see what the result is before you use the Piling On skill. And from what I understand, this has not chopped and changed, because it is important to know whether or not you need to use the skill before you actually use it!

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5.0 rules are

  • Roll Av
  • Choose to use PO to reroll
  • Roll injury
  • If you haven't already PO'd then you can choose to use it to reroll injury

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Yay.... Guess what I'm giving my BO with Jump Up as his next skill?

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Thanks Ian and others.

That's great.

I notice I asked the question on Friday 13th - most appropriate.

Cheers

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I have a question, just want to check that if you use fend to prevent a follow up, then piling on cannot be used against you, is this right?

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It would seem to make sense. Curious to hear the consensus on this one.

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That is one of the main applications of Fend. To Pile On you have to be adjacent to the knocked down player. If he used Fend you are not adjacent to him.
Exception: If you used Grab to keep him near you, then you can use PO without having followed up.
 
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Yes the use of grab would work. But if you have side step and fend, then no one can pile on against you.

Ah LRB5, gotta to love all the fun combos!

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Yes, you're right. The combination of Side Step and Fend would cancel-out Grab and Piling-On.

I checked Juggernaut now, as it cancels-out Fend. If the player is blitzing and has Juggernaut and Piling-On, then Side Step and Fend won't help, except that the side-stepper will get to chose where he gets piled-on. Smile
 
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Thanks for checking that Cramy, I'm glad that Side Step + Fend does have some answer to it even if it requires a blitz. Now we just need an answer to Side Steppers who like to loiter one square away from the side lines (meaning they can't ever be crowd surfed) Very Happy

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      Styfen wrote:
Thanks for checking that Cramy, I'm glad that Side Step + Fend does have some answer to it even if it requires a blitz. Now we just need an answer to Side Steppers who like to loiter one square away from the side lines (meaning they can't ever be crowd surfed) Very Happy


B ut if you have grab, then you cancel the side-step and go for regular push.

Alternatively, you can just occupy every other space, and then they have no choice - a bit extreme, but I've seen it done! Depends on how bad you want that guy out!

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They're one square away from the sidelines. You can take the regular push to move them against the side lines, but you can't try to surf them till your next turn, and only if they stay put.

I was refering to the fact that Frenzy + Grab can't be taken together to cancel out Side Stepping. Sad

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Well again it depends on how much work you want to put into it - but if you have the other on the side lines waiting for them, then the grabber can push them to the side, and then one of the others can hit him in (provided there are no other squares to side step to).

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The only thing that I can think of is one guy with Juggernaut, and a bunch of guys with Grab. The Juggernaut guy pushes the side stepper next the the Grab guys, and the Grab guys do the crowd pushing.

I'm actually thinking of giving grab to some of my BoBs, but for foul setups against non-side steppers. Opponent puts TZ on corner of cage, block the fella and grab him in the middle of the cage, block again until he falls, then foul with assists.
 
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