Rules Questions - That Boys got talent Question again yarrick1imperial - Jan 21, 2004 - 07:32 PM Post subject: That Boys got talent Question again
if somebody rolls "That Boys got talent" on the handicap table, can they take big guys for the match?
if they don't have one already, as it states under big guys in the LRB that "Big Guys are now included in the game as "normal players" All of the rules that apply to other players apply to big guys also, except where specifically modified.
it also states that you can only ever have one big guy except for goblins and halflings they can have 2.
Also what about your normal players, can you also include another blitzer if you already have 4?
help would be very grateful.
cheers yarrick1imperial Cervidal - Jan 22, 2004 - 05:22 AM Post subject:
As far as I understand it, no, you cannot take a Big Guy. They are not on the actual roster. They are allied players. TBGT specifially states that you can take any player from the basic team roster.Tutenkharnage - Jan 22, 2004 - 06:15 AM Post subject:
They're not on the roster. You can't take them.
-ChetClan_Skaven - Jan 22, 2004 - 08:11 PM Post subject: ok?
ok, great no big guys, fine, but what about the other question? For example I mostly play Skaven, if I already have 2 Storm Vermin, could I on this handicap result take a 3rd Storm Vermin?[/quote]Mordredd - Jan 23, 2004 - 04:19 AM Post subject:
I don't think it's particularly clear on this one, but I would say that you were still limited to the normal number of each position player. So in the example above you could not have a third Storm Vermin.
I would not allow someone to hire a third Storm Vermin as a freebooter, so I see no reason to allow it for TBGT.Sputnik - Jan 23, 2004 - 05:02 AM Post subject:
on the other hand the text says add one player at any one position, thus giving no limitation like a free roster spot or staying within the limits of your team list. Further, it is explicitly stated that you may have a 17th player that way, which is not possible with any freebooter either.
Thus, I would rather say you may have a third storm vermin for this match only (hey, the handicap table is weak enough; give the other team something useful to work with; and it could be much worse than a third storm vermin).
SputnikMelifaxis - Jan 23, 2004 - 05:46 AM Post subject:
You can freeboot above the normal limit, so I think this would kind of be like a FREEfreebooter yarrick1imperial - Jan 23, 2004 - 10:13 AM Post subject:
I Agree with Mordredd, i still think you should stay with in the guide lines of 0-2 storm vermin if you already have 2, as for the 17th player to the team roster the only reason you can have a 17th player is becasuse it says you can, if you do take a extra storm vermin then its over stepping the 0-2 storm vermin even if it is only for one game.
I play skaven also and i think that if your position players are full then there is no way that you should be able to go over that number, it just feels wrong, but you can always get a free line rat for the game.
I just feel that the guidelines are fixed and you should respect them.
its a hard one, it ticks me off sometimes when no matter how hard you look you just can't find the right answer to the question, so many grey areas in BB.
Mordredd - Jan 23, 2004 - 10:37 AM Post subject:
The text makes it quite clear that you can choose from any position available to your team. This does not then mean that you are free to exceed your limits. The LRB does not say that you can exceed the limits via freebooting either. Although equally it doesn't say you cannot.
I imagine that the allowing of a 17th player is to prevent the handicap roll being wasted on a team with a full roster. You may be happy with the idea of a 3rd Storm Vermin, but would you like to see a 5th Mummy, 7th Saurus or a 3rd Bull Centaur?Darkson - Jan 23, 2004 - 02:12 PM Post subject:
I'm pretty sure that this was clarified somewhere, that yes, it meant you could take a posistional player beyond the normal limit. Damned if I can find it though Tutenkharnage - Jan 23, 2004 - 03:49 PM Post subject:
The handicap result in question was based upon the old Grab Bag card "Ringer." It's worded clearly enough - you can take a 3rd Mummy, 5th BOB, 3rd Thro-Ra, whatever.
-Chetyarrick1imperial - Jan 23, 2004 - 04:31 PM Post subject:
Thanks Chet, just needed clearing up, i did'nt really understand the rule it does say ANY postion player but the 0-2 Storm Vermin kinda left me stunned as to can you, or can't you?
Ta for that
