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mrinprophet - Feb 06, 2004 - 09:40 AM
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I was thinking about creating a custom pitch (my first real project) and was wondering if anyone knew the precise size of the squares on the pitch. I may have to create a custom range ruler if the pitch square is an abnormal size. thanks.

mikeyc222 - Feb 06, 2004 - 10:44 AM
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from what i've heard, square size varies a little from board to board. what you can do is use a pass ruler and say every range band is 3 squares then divide that length by 3. i know it's a little over an inch, something like an inch and 3/8(not sure about meteric measurements).

Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 06, 2004 - 10:45 AM
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do a search ... I know I've posted that another time... dadgum alzheimers!

neoliminal - Feb 06, 2004 - 11:02 AM
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IIRC, it's 26mm

mrinprophet - Feb 06, 2004 - 01:38 PM
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That sounds right Neo... I kept thinking it was 2.6 somthing.

26mm = 1.02 inches. So, the hirst arts models with 1" squares would be really close. I'm thinking of picking up one or two molds and seeing what I can slap together for GenCon. Being that I have about 14 unpainted teams though, I'm probably not being realistic. Embarassed

Sineater - Feb 12, 2004 - 06:21 PM
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mrinprophet wrote:

Hey Mr You've seen my pitch i posted at Talkbloodbowl.com right? That was made using the 1" fieldstone tiles from Hirst arts. I also made one with the 1.5 tiles but that would require a new range ruller.

As to the actual size of the squares......it changes
The old foam pitch as well as dungeon bowl were a 1" square. With the 3rd edition board the size went up a tiny amount, but 1" would work with no noticable change in the range ruler.

Deathwing - Feb 13, 2004 - 05:53 AM
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Lol...I've posted this on TBB, pasted it over onto the GW board, pasted it back over to TBB from the GW board when the first one disappeared, now over here...maybe it should be 'stuck' everywhere! Smile

Deathwing wrote:

"Again, I'd use the overall board size and divide. Measuring one square is not the way to go IMO, cumulative error and all that.
Board length is somewhere close to 756mm..divide that by 26 and it gives you 29.07.
Do 28mm squares and 28*26 gives you 728...a 28mm difference. Or equivalent to a square shorter in overall length. Use 30 and you'll be 24mm or equivalent to most of a square longer.
Width is 440mm. Divide that by 15 and you get 29.33. If you use 29mm squares you'll get a total width of 435..a difference of 5mm which is perfectly fine.

Of course it all depends how anal you want to be in replicating the original size, but I'd go about in by starting with a 752 x 435 rectangle and mark off the squares at 29mm. HTH. "

I guess most of us could live with 4mm overall shorter and 5mm overall narrower. Smile

Da_Scum - Mar 03, 2004 - 09:42 AM
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Stupid avatar loading...aug! Burn in hell Lord Gates my Dark master...

I remember posting to the TBB about that, after measuring the official field and finding out that NONE of the squares really conformed to any standard! I noted that to Jervis and he got a hoot out of that, meaning Ivor Biggin Stadium is more accurate than the supplied boards...do some measuring using that throwing ruler. You'll find some legal passes are illegal in other area, yet you went the same number of squares! Brings new meaning to their "design Trolls" team... Wink

Still, it's a fun project...and I find the flock is better for preventing chipping to minatures. I just need to add more "twisted humour" to the pitch...a few feet sticking out after failed TTM seems right. Very Happy

Sineater - Mar 03, 2004 - 12:34 PM
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It would actually be a better situation if they updated the LRB to count number of squares, rather than using a range ruler. First off by count squares it makes it a lot easier to make your own pitch (No need to worry about size then). Most importantly, with the birth of the LRB the rules can be downloaded now, but you still have to buy the boxset to get the range rulers Sad

Darkson - Mar 04, 2004 - 01:39 PM
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Sineater wrote:

Do you hear a ka-ching? Twisted Evil

AnthonyTBBF - Mar 04, 2004 - 02:14 PM
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i don't think the size of the squares is that important, it's probably easier to make a range ruler that's to scale of your pitch.

Da_Scum - Mar 04, 2004 - 02:28 PM
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Besides, using state of the art Troll technology you can always use a photocopier and size up, or down, the range ruler to fit your needs. I remember this being done for another stadium that used the Large-Monster bases for it's squares. Left lots of room for blood-stains and such. Laughing

At least it's the same range ruler from the previous sets, though counting the squares no longer works as well from the old Astro-granite pitches. Cool

sorne - Mar 10, 2004 - 03:57 PM
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i made mine 29mm square.

KLK - Mar 11, 2004 - 03:48 PM
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Relax coaches!

we have 5 stadiums made at home, and all have diferent measures.
this is fun, because in some stadiums is a little bit difficult, or a little bit easy complete the pass, or intercept the ball.

this is just like real life: the stadiums in football, rugby, and american football aren't always the same size.

KLK - Mar 11, 2004 - 03:58 PM
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Xtreme - Mar 11, 2004 - 09:21 PM
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Quote:

this is just like real life: the stadiums in football, rugby, and american football aren't always the same size.

The stadiums aren't but the playing fields are.

If your league is ok with the diffrences I say run with it, it is in the fluff. I would just make sure that all teams get an even amount of matches on each field.

Darkson - Mar 12, 2004 - 04:18 AM
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Don't know about rugby or american football, but in football (soccer) pitches are different sizes. the rules lay down the sizes the pitches must be between:

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12112.htm

crazylegs - Mar 12, 2004 - 09:51 AM
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U.S Sports fields:

Football: all the same.
Basketball: all the same.
Baseball: basepaths and pitchers mound all have specific distances but the rest (out of bounds, outfield, etc) is up to each club.
Hockey: I'm not 100% sure... I live in Chicago, we only have minor
league teams here... but if I remember correctly they have to be within certain upper & lower limits, but there is some differences.

Xtreme - Mar 13, 2004 - 11:18 AM
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I live in Chicago, we only have minor
league teams here...

What about the BlackHawks?

crazylegs - Mar 13, 2004 - 12:17 PM
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In regards to the Blackhawks, I stand by my original statement...

Da_Scum - Mar 13, 2004 - 10:15 PM
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No hockey rings can vary within leagues as well. And the Europe leagues have a larger style than the North American rinks...

Though the boards in Boston are murder... Crying or Very sad

KLK - Mar 14, 2004 - 08:06 PM
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OK, just do whatever you want... but I still think that the playing fields aren't always the same size.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 12, 2004 - 12:15 AM
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KLK wrote:

OK, just do whatever you want... but I still think that the playing fields aren't always the same size.

In American Football, the pitches are the same size regardless of what stadium you are in.

Same goes for Canadian football.

Gornak - Jul 28, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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You don't really need a range ruler. Once you know the size of the squares (roughly 29mm square) and the length of the range ruler (IIRC, Quick, Short and Long are each 100mm, and LB is 80mm; can't remember the extra bit that goes over the thrower's square), you can derive the length of a pass using trigonometry.

After you have an equation for it, squares can be any size you like; even any shape, so long as the connections between squares are conserved. How about an oval shaped board where the squares are big and fat in the middle, but small and shallow toward the end zone, to give the impression that your players slow down when home is in sight? Or the opposite? Confused

Of course, the range ruler is a lot more fun than stuffing around with trig.

Gornak - Jul 28, 2004 - 12:23 AM
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Oh, and the grounds in Aussie rules footy are different sizes.

Melifaxis - Jul 28, 2004 - 08:46 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Though the boards in Boston are murder... Crying or Very sad

Actually I think it's the Bruins' management/ownership that's murder...at least according to all the B's fans Wink

Grasshopper - Aug 17, 2004 - 11:56 AM
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crazylegs wrote:

GO WOLVES ! ! ! Mr. Green

Spazzfist - Aug 19, 2004 - 10:20 AM
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Here is a website that shows how they made a board using 25mm Warhammer bases.

http://www.gobstyks.co.uk/Projects/bbboard.htm

Zombie - Oct 31, 2004 - 09:02 AM
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Gornak wrote:

And how would you figure out interceptions then?

redjack - Jan 02, 2005 - 02:11 PM
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Zombie wrote:

And how would you figure out interceptions then?

Well, if there's a pass attempt, the defending coach rolls a d6.

On a 1-5, there's no interception.

On a 6, the defending coach has to mathmatically prove that an interception is possible - using vectors, trig and some other stuff. If the passing coach agrees, then it's an interception.

Ought to really cut down on those pesky interceptions. (Just like using trig will cut down on those pesky passes... Very Happy

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Banelord - Feb 15, 2005 - 05:23 AM
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One friend of mine build his own pitch and made an own pass-template, so everything is ok. As commissioner i don't like to see a 24mm square for an elf-stadium or 30mm square for dwarfs. Evil or Very Mad

avatar666 - Apr 09, 2005 - 07:51 AM
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I agree that BB pitches could be made of any size, and that you should just make a corresponding passing range ruler. Here is a link to a site that posted the basic ranges, but as previously mentioned you should use a template to see if there are any possiblities for interceptions.

http://www.arosbb.dk/default.asp?p=pr