Rules Questions - You cannot re-roll a failed pro-roll with a team re-roll MrNuffle - May 13, 2005 - 06:07 AM Post subject: You cannot re-roll a failed pro-roll with a team re-roll
In three threads so far I read a reply stating that it is possible to use a team reroll on a failed(or even succesful) Pro-roll.
You cannot use a team re-roll to reroll a failed pro-roll.
There I said it Mordredd - May 13, 2005 - 06:10 AM Post subject:
Why do you think that you can't? Just curious to hear your reasoning.MrNuffle - May 13, 2005 - 06:27 AM Post subject:
LRB 4.0 page 15.
Section PLAYER RE-ROLLS:
" ... However, as noted above, a single dice roll may not be re-rolled more than once. "
I think Pro is causing alot of questions... And BITE ME I THINK I AM ACTUALLY wrong with the statment above. Hopefully I can get it solved here....
Hmmm
Well you have to admit that the skill description of PRO is confusing.
It says
"... However you can re-roll the PRO roll with a team re-roll..."
So .... You vets out there - what is it?
I'd still say page 15 counts. Seems a bit odd to be able to re-roll a dice twice?Deathwing - May 13, 2005 - 06:43 AM Post subject:
But you're not re-rolling the same dice twice, you're re-rolling the Pro dice once.jaylazer - May 13, 2005 - 06:44 AM Post subject:
Lars wrote:
I'd still say page 15 counts. Seems a bit odd to be able to re-roll a dice twice?
You aren't re-rolling a die twice. There are two different rolls here. The first is the action the player was performing (Block, dodge, etc.). The second is the die roll to see if Pro is successful.
Each of these rolls can be re-rolled only once. If the roll for the Pro skill fails then the original "action" roll stands and cannot be re-rolledMordredd - May 13, 2005 - 06:47 AM Post subject:
The "pro roll" is a 4+ roll to allow you to reroll another dice roll, such as a block or dodge you just made, and is a separate roll to the one you want to reroll. If you fail that you can use a team reroll to reroll that dice as you've only rolled it once so far.
What you can't do is try to use pro to reroll a block, for example, fail to get a 4+ and then use a team reroll to reroll the block.
Also you couldn't make a block, reroll it using a team reroll and then reroll it again using a successful pro roll. Or make a dodge, reroll it using dodge skill and then reroll it again using a team reroll and then reroll it yet again using a successful pro roll. These last two examples are what the "a single dice roll may not be re-rolled more than once" rule is referring to.
I hope that helps clear things up.MrNuffle - May 13, 2005 - 06:48 AM Post subject: Confused...
Example.
1)
You block(one dice block) Roll a
You use Pro - Roll a 1-3.
End of story you go down.
2)
You block(one dice block) Roll a
You use Pro - Roll a 4-6.
You roll the blockdice again and roll a
Good for you.
3)
You block(one dice block) Roll a
You use Pro - Roll a 4-6.
You roll the blockdice again and roll a
Hmmm
Now you use a team re-roll?
In my head thats re-rolling the blockdice more than once.
see my confusion ?MrNuffle - May 13, 2005 - 06:50 AM Post subject:
OMG - We posted at the same time.
Thank you.
So you cannot re-roll a twice failed block.
But you can re-roll a roll where Pro did not succed.
I get it now - Thank you.
I am sure this will also clear up alot of questions for other than me.
(Actually we agreed all along - I just have no doubts now )Mordredd - May 13, 2005 - 06:54 AM Post subject:
You can't use a team rerool on the at the end of example 3).
What you could do is add a step to 1)
You block(one dice block) Roll a
You use Pro - Roll a 1-3.
You use a team reroll to roll the Pro die again - Roll a 4-6
You roll the blockdice again and roll a
Typical, all that effort for a lousy Longshot - May 13, 2005 - 08:06 AM Post subject:
lol
