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North America - North America Bowl?
CyberHare - Nov 16, 2005 - 06:36 AM
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I posted this over on TBB but I'll repost it here since I think more of you float around here.
I'm wondering if there is interest in holding a Eurobowl style event in North America. Obviuosly we couldn't do a country based event or we'd only have two teams 
It would have to either be based on teams from states/provinces or even by city. I also don't think we'd be able to have 8 person teams. 5 is probably more likely a good number for us as we are simply a lot more spread out and have a smaller pot to draw from.
So who's interested? Idea's for a name for the event? Where should we hold it? When?
I'll start by saying that I'm interested and I can certanly get a team of 5 together for Quebec. I like "The Americas Cup" but that's kinda already taken 
As for where this year it would be interesting if we had all interested parties bid on the event for this year. Sort of like cities bid on the Olympics. After that we could do as the Eurobowl does and give the winning State/Prov first refusal to host the event next year. Time of year is always tricky. We'll need eveyone to sound off as to when they're holding their events and sort it out from there.
Come on lets get this idea off the ground and make it work! Ok so Quebec is a guarunteed win. The rest of you can show up for second place 
Hoshi_Komi - Nov 16, 2005 - 07:00 AM
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I'd definitely be interested. The I'm sure DC could put a team together and PA probably could too!
Hoshi_Komi - Nov 16, 2005 - 07:17 AM
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I'd even say that an area could field two teams if they have enough people. ie an A team and a B team.
Location: I think toronto, quebec, mass, DC and Philly as the current major NA travelling teams. So NY city would probably be the most central place for everyone.
Melifaxis - Nov 16, 2005 - 07:38 AM
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Sounds intriguing...
SolarFlare - Nov 16, 2005 - 08:30 AM
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This sounds like a great idea. Time/geography will be the biggest issues. Since its counterpart is the Eurobowl, maybe it could be called the Norabowl.
CyberHare - Nov 16, 2005 - 08:45 AM
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Hmm NYC might be a good idea. Neo lives there.
If we want more teams maybe we could do them City based instead of State/Prov. Lets just see if we can get people for one team first.
Paul - Nov 16, 2005 - 10:23 AM
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Sounds like a cool idea, and Toronto could easily field 2 teams.
I say we just make it a standard tournament and let people come up with their own teams though. One thing about North American tournaments is that we are usually smaller than those in Europe. If we have teams from certin areas that might discourage other players from going who might be over the limit. ie, if 6 people from Montreal can go, I don't see why we should turn 1 guy away because the team is of 5 people.
Maybe if you had 2 awards, top player and top team? This way, if a player who isn't on any team shows up, he can still play, and who knows, maybe they can find some other loners and make "team everybody else"
jaylazer - Nov 16, 2005 - 10:57 AM
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I think it's a good idea and you can count me in.
We could probably get 5 people from the philly area to play.
Paul, we could figure out some way of including players. In my Cross Country days there were 7 players. Only the first 5 players actually placed while the last 2 would displace. (Scoring was total up each of first 5 players positions. Team with lowest score wins).
It wouldn't completely work here but we can figure it out I'm sure.
Could we have "united" teams? Like Western US All-stars, so all the players scattered about could jump on a team together.
CyberHare - Nov 16, 2005 - 11:17 AM
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Get their names on a list Paul and we'll see from there. Maybe the limit should be 8 but I have a hard time seeing every team being able to get 8 people willing and able to travel who can attend.
jaylazer - Nov 16, 2005 - 11:21 AM
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I think 5 is a good number, maybe even 4. I think it'll be hard enough to get 5 every year. 8 would be really hard.
BB_Babe - Nov 16, 2005 - 11:28 AM
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Interesting idea. Albany might be worth considering too, likely to find cheaper digs than NYC, and more central for Toronto, Montreal and Philly.
United Teams would be a great option.
The Vespucci Bowl 
Cheers,
Maureen
lawquoter - Nov 16, 2005 - 11:44 AM
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Definitely interesting. I could only count myself and Mrin from the Stl, and Mrin might be out if it's placed about the time schools start up.
BB_Babe - Nov 16, 2005 - 01:26 PM
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Out of curiousity, I just phoned up the SUNY Albany campus. Normally, they rent rooms and dormitory space for summer events. But they're not available this summer -- they're quite busy hosting the Special Olympics and doing renovations. However there are other schools in the area we could try. Colleges and universities can usually provide cheap space.
CyberHare - Nov 16, 2005 - 01:40 PM
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jaylazer wrote:
Could we have "united" teams? Like Western US All-stars, so all the players scattered about could jump on a team together.
I think, in fact I'm certain we'll need to be a little relaxed on exactly where people are from that form a team and where they are representing. I think that as long as a team has 5 people that all want to represent the same place and at least 3 of them are from that place then all is good. Having "united" teams should be perfectly fine.
Good we're starting to get some people talking about this. Lets get a little communication going and pass the word around to people who arn't always here to poke their heads in here and sound off.
While we're at it we need to figure out a when and a where. To start with a when will depend on a good open time when people are free. I'll start a new thread so people can sound off as to when they are holding their tournies in 2006. From there we can sort out a good time.
Spazzfist - Nov 16, 2005 - 01:45 PM
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I would be interested, but need to wait for more BB players to move to Brampton first! (don't want to be trucking with the likes of them TBBFers). 
Maybe I could get together with Drew the Anti-Social Crustacean and the Boyz from da Fallz and we can make a "Hair Team"
Spazz
Xtreme - Nov 16, 2005 - 08:32 PM
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I'm interested. I think team size may work better if it were 4 on a team. Allowing a lot of leeway would be the key.
LQ if you and MrIn were to come I think we could get some extra Indy players to throw on your team to fill it out.
CyberHare - Nov 17, 2005 - 03:22 AM
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All right so suggested names thus far are.... Drum roll please...
NoraBowl
&
The Amorical Cup
I'm partial to NoraBowl myself but maybe that's just me.
Xtreme - Nov 17, 2005 - 03:52 AM
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My prefrence would be Amorical Cup.
Hoshi_Komi - Nov 17, 2005 - 05:53 AM
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Amorical Cup
jaylazer - Nov 17, 2005 - 06:46 AM
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I like Amorical Cup. It has that direct connection to Blood Bowl.
Melifaxis - Nov 17, 2005 - 07:48 AM
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Same here although Ameribowl is better than Norabowl too...it should be just N. America...I dont think anyone else should show but it should be open to C. America and S. America too 
Paul - Nov 17, 2005 - 09:16 AM
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Ameribowl or Amorical Cup sound cool. Amorical has the BB connection so there could be some nice fluff for it.
Old_Man_Monkey - Nov 17, 2005 - 09:19 AM
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I think we could pull together a Florida team - bad timing, as I would love to help coordinate a team and the event but I'll be in Europe most of next summer.... date and time are critical for me....
Rune_Master - Nov 17, 2005 - 02:09 PM
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This sounds like a great idea. Team jerseys, city and/or regional rivalries would be created and/or enhanced (Dallas Sucks!), awesome! And personally, while I feel more than confidant in Team Philly's ability to win the tourny, I guarantee a win in the beer drinking contest on Sat. night! LOL!
Rune_Master - Nov 17, 2005 - 02:10 PM
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whoops, assuming I am deemed worthy of Team Philly... 
jaylazer - Nov 17, 2005 - 02:12 PM
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Just thought of a question.
How are members of the team decided?
Assuming there are more people willing to go then we need.
I guess a local tourney would be an idea.
Rune_Master - Nov 17, 2005 - 02:22 PM
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or bring alternates in case someone "accidentally" takes a dice roll to the forehead...
CyberHare - Nov 17, 2005 - 03:01 PM
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I don't think we need or want to get into any pre-tournaments or qualifications. We could keep it quite simple. Locals from each state/prov pick a captain and the captain picks the team members. Alternates are probably a good idea if people want to travel and play pick up games against other alternates.
CyberHare - Nov 17, 2005 - 03:26 PM
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Hmm the tournament calendar is looking a little full. We may have to hold this event on new years eve
BB_Babe - Nov 17, 2005 - 04:41 PM
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CyberHare wrote:
Alternates are probably a good idea if people want to travel and play pick up games against other alternates.
Or their can be an official "Stray Dogs" side tournament. 
--Mo
Xtreme - Nov 17, 2005 - 08:36 PM
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Extra coaches could always help to fill out other teams. Atleast the first year I think that would help get more teams there.
Rune_Master - Nov 18, 2005 - 07:16 AM
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sure, extra coaches could be the "Mongrels", the "Stray Dogz", "spare meat"
lawquoter - Nov 18, 2005 - 05:01 PM
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Xtreme wrote:
I'm interested. I think team size may work better if it were 4 on a team. Allowing a lot of leeway would be the key.
LQ if you and MrIn were to come I think we could get some extra Indy players to throw on your team to fill it out.
We can hook up and be the MO/IN or INDY/STL alliance. Not as cool sounding as the NOW from the old WCW days, but I'd walk into a room to the tune of Voodoo Chile with ya X.
Melifaxis - Nov 18, 2005 - 08:14 PM
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Voodoo!!!!
lawquoter - Nov 19, 2005 - 08:45 AM
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Always liked your Voodoo team name, Mel. You need to get a hold of the New Orleans Voodoo logo for the team before it's lost to history since the team has suspended operations b/c of the hurricane.
Melifaxis - Nov 19, 2005 - 09:52 AM
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Thanks
I have saved the logo already
You just reminded me that I wanted to buy a cap though...
Xtreme - Nov 19, 2005 - 08:11 PM
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lawquoter wrote:
Xtreme wrote:
I'm interested. I think team size may work better if it were 4 on a team. Allowing a lot of leeway would be the key.
LQ if you and MrIn were to come I think we could get some extra Indy players to throw on your team to fill it out.
We can hook up and be the MO/IN or INDY/STL alliance.
Not as cool sounding as the NOW from the old WCW days, but I'd walk into a room to the tune of Voodoo Chile with ya X.
Who said I would want to be on that team?
I was going to throw you our scraps so I could kick your butts representing Indy. 
lawquoter - Nov 20, 2005 - 06:17 AM
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Xtreme wrote:
Who said I would want to be on that team?
I was going to throw you our scraps so I could kick your butts representing Indy.
Aw, now see you don't get it. You do the double team/back stabbing AFTER you're on the team. Sheesh. Really, X, you'd make a bad "heel" in wrestling.
With all the smack you're talking, I think I'm just going to have butch up and b*tchslap you around in a friendly soon.
lawquoter - Nov 20, 2005 - 06:19 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Thanks
I have saved the logo already
You just reminded me that I wanted to buy a cap though...
yeah, I need to try to grab one too. I thought that was one of the more original and cool team nicknames and logos in any sport really. We could use more of 'em instead of the same ol' crap.
KarlLagerbottom - Nov 20, 2005 - 12:16 PM
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Yeah...better that some silly old musical note.
CyberHare - Nov 21, 2005 - 03:37 AM
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Ok I've added a poll to the beginning of this thread. Go vote for your favorite name.
Now, when do people think we should hold the event? Looking at the list of events there's no big open gap. My thinking right now is that it should either be a season opener or a closer.
jaylazer - Nov 21, 2005 - 06:36 AM
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What would constitute a season?
If we are talking the calendar year then that would be December or January. I'd think those weren't the best travel times for much of the area we are covering. They're talking about us getting some snow today (just flurries). I can only imagine what the Great white North is like that time of year.
I would like to have it in the summer some time. June or July are best for me.
CyberHare - Nov 21, 2005 - 09:06 AM
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Yeah I think we've pretty much set ourselves up with a January to December Season. Not that it was ever planned that way but that's the way it seems to have worked out.
What you don't like the snow?
Ok so that's one vote for summer.
jaylazer - Nov 21, 2005 - 09:11 AM
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I personally love snow. Driving in it is a little difficult and slower. That would make for a longer and more dangerous trip.
I'm guessing that a lot of people wouldn't want to risk it.
I definitely can't do very late December or very early January. That is X-mas break around here and we do a lot of work on the Computer systems during it. We also do work during the summer but there's much more time then to spread it out in.
GalakStarscraper - Nov 21, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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CyberHare wrote:
Yeah I think we've pretty much set ourselves up with a January to December Season. Not that it was ever planned that way but that's the way it seems to have worked out.
What you don't like the snow?
Ok so that's one vote for summer.
The answer to this seems easy to me.
Have this tournament during the months that folks were pushing to have the Chaos Cup. If they were the best months for that tournament ... they should work great for this one instead.
Galak
CyberHare - Nov 21, 2005 - 01:24 PM
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You're keeping the Chaos Cup in November then?
What's this... no one has voted for NoraBowl. Nora will be heartbroken
Colin - Nov 21, 2005 - 04:20 PM
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Since it's going to be basically Canadian and Americans at this tourney, why not the Can-Am Bowl?
KarlLagerbottom - Nov 21, 2005 - 04:27 PM
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Torg wrote:
Since it's going to be basically Canadian and Americans at this tourney, why not the Can-Am Bowl?
Why not the Am-Can Bowl?
GalakStarscraper - Nov 21, 2005 - 04:39 PM
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CyberHare wrote:
You're keeping the Chaos Cup in November then?
ARGGGH!!!
I'm not keeping anything in November. Yes, GW is holding the Chaos Cup in November next year.
Which should mean that all those dates that everyone said were so much better for the tournament would be great for your event.
Galak
KarlLagerbottom - Nov 21, 2005 - 04:51 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
CyberHare wrote:
You're keeping the Chaos Cup in November then?
ARGGGH!!!
I'm not keeping anything in November. Yes,
GW is holding the Chaos Cup in November next year.
Which should mean that all those dates that everyone said were so much better for the tournament would be great for your event.
Galak
Tom-
I thought you were moving the Chaos Cup to be more in the spirit of the fluff?
-Rob
Just kidding.
Deathwing - Nov 21, 2005 - 04:52 PM
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I'm last to be pc brigade, but Norabowl brought Noraid straight to mind.. maybe just me..
Colonialbowl?
Can-Am sounds ok, but airline etc, how about AmCan?
CyberHare - Nov 21, 2005 - 05:01 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
ARGGGH!!!
Ok ok message received.
So November is out then.
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 21, 2005 - 05:04 PM
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New World Cup?
CyberHare - Nov 21, 2005 - 05:05 PM
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Torg wrote:
why not the Can-Am Bowl?
KarlLagerbottom wrote:
Why not the Am-Can Bowl?
That's why not
Deathwing wrote:
Colonialbowl?
lawquoter - Nov 21, 2005 - 05:54 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:
Yeah...better that some silly old musical note.
Sure, kick us when we're down. 
You'll see, we'll be back. And lose in the first round of the playoffs. 
It's a classic logo. Let's go blues!
Personally I'd prefer a late spring early summer tourney. Call it something unusual. I'd take the Amorical Cup over anything suggested. I dunno, I got nothing right now.
Colin - Nov 22, 2005 - 04:36 PM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:
New World Cup?
That's a cool suggestion, I'd go for that.
GalakStarscraper - Nov 22, 2005 - 05:39 PM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:
New World Cup?
That's my favorite of the list as well.
Galak
CyberHare - Nov 22, 2005 - 06:04 PM
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All right I changed the poll since no one was voting for NoraBowl I also removed Ameri bowl as it just doesn't sound right. Sorry to the two people who voted for it. You all have to go vote again.
Paul - Nov 22, 2005 - 06:21 PM
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Yea, I like New World Cup as well. That ones a keeper I think.
Xtreme - Nov 22, 2005 - 08:50 PM
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lawquoter wrote:
Aw, now see you don't get it. You do the double team/back stabbing AFTER you're on the team. Sheesh.
Really, X, you'd make a bad "heel" in wrestling.
Man, thought I had it down. Back to the training room for me, anyone have any roids they aren't using.
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With all the smack you're talking, I think I'm just going to have butch up and b*tchslap you around in a friendly soon.
Bring it on. 
Until you beat me I don't see any reason to stop talking.
CyberHare - Nov 23, 2005 - 03:07 AM
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Hmm look at that we have a real vote going on now. Come on everyone get those votes in.
lawquoter - Nov 23, 2005 - 04:09 PM
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Xtreme wrote:
lawquoter wrote:
Aw, now see you don't get it. You do the double team/back stabbing AFTER you're on the team. Sheesh.
Really, X, you'd make a bad "heel" in wrestling.
Man, thought I had it down. Back to the training room for me, anyone have any roids they aren't using.
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With all the smack you're talking, I think I'm just going to have butch up and b*tchslap you around in a friendly soon.
Bring it on.
Until you beat me I don't see any reason to stop talking.
I pity the fool.... 
Next tourney....you pick: 7s, Straight up, Dungeon, Street, Grudge Match, DP +1/+1.
maxlongstreet - Dec 10, 2005 - 08:54 AM
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Hey folks--I have a large and inexpensive venue about 15 minutes from NYC. It's a huge room at the Bergen Mall in Paramus, NJ. We've ran big events there before. How much space would we need, how many players would we expect, would it be one day or two, and what would we need to make it happen?
Hoshi_Komi - Dec 15, 2005 - 12:05 PM
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that's a great idea. let's set a date and get the "teams" there
bampf - Dec 15, 2005 - 02:29 PM
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So can Philly and Harrisburg both have teams? Or are they too close geographically... we could blend together to form a Team PA (aka Devastator).
BB_Babe - Dec 15, 2005 - 02:36 PM
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I think floating zones would work out for any non-jerry-mandered geographically contiguous area that can provide a full team. For instance, we could have Philly, Harrisburg, everything west of the Mississipi -- whatever works to get a team.
The July 15 weekend in Paramus looks good to me.
Cheers,
Maureen
maxlongstreet - Dec 15, 2005 - 02:48 PM
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My Paramus venue, while having many advantages, has the drawback of Bergen County blue laws--No business on Sunday, so it will probably be a one-day event. There is no reason that we couldn't have it be a team event though, depending on who comes--A PA team, A NJ team, a NY team, MA team, an international/anyone else team...
The more I look at various event calendars, the more I think July 15 will be perfect.
Xtreme - Dec 15, 2005 - 08:36 PM
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Could we run it Friday and Saturday then? Bit of a distance to travel, I think it would be hard to convince the guys around here to make the trip for a one-dayer.
CyberHare - Dec 16, 2005 - 04:07 PM
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Ok I didn't fall off the earth I've just been busy working on something. All of you should keep your ear to the ground. Something big is coming. Save up those pennies you're not going to want to miss this one.
The Amorical Cup.
I asked Jay and Rob if they wanted to run it alongside their event. Jay hasn't gotten back to me yet though.
JAY ARE YOU OUT THERE
I appreciate the offer max but we'll definetly need to have a two day event and preferably on Saturday and Sunday.
I have other locations in mind but I'd really like to find somewhere centrally located to run this event. Gken if Jay and Rod arn't an option maybe we could run it alongside your event? Could the venue you use handle something like this?
KarlLagerbottom - Dec 17, 2005 - 01:06 AM
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Brian-
Jay and I have talked about this a bit, I'm sure he will be in touch soon.
-RobO
lawquoter - Dec 17, 2005 - 08:49 AM
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ok, I'm on pins and needles. Where? When? How much? Where's the nearest hotel with an open bar?
Melifaxis - Dec 17, 2005 - 09:04 AM
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Open bar? Are you insane?
BB_Babe - Dec 17, 2005 - 09:56 AM
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Albany is the geographic center of all our big Northeast population pockets. If we don't have anyone on the ground there, I'd be willing to start researching possible sites, I've done long-range convention organising before.
Cheers,
Maureen
CyberHare - Dec 17, 2005 - 10:36 AM
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BB_Babe wrote:
Albany is the geographic center of all our big Northeast population pockets.
Northeast perhaps but I'm hoping to get something a little more south to be more central east than north east. Anyway at the moment I'm just waiting to hear back from Jay and we'll move on from there.
What do people think though about having a static location for the tournament. Or would people rather it be a "winner hosts next year" type of deal.
Hoshi_Komi - Dec 17, 2005 - 08:10 PM
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Isn't the winner hosts next year the eurobowl setup??
Let's hope Jay gets back with a positive answer.
then we'll move on. I'd definitely like to see the phracus be a real fight
CyberHare - Dec 18, 2005 - 05:13 AM
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gken1 wrote:
Isn't the winner hosts next year the eurobowl setup??
Yup it is.
Colin - Dec 18, 2005 - 08:47 AM
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There are more votes for the New World Cup, so why is it going to be called the Amorical Cup?
BB_Babe - Dec 18, 2005 - 12:55 PM
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GenCon, Origins, and Chaos Cup are already established in the North Central region (to borrow some Railbaron geography), so it might not be a good idea to have the Vespucciland Cup wander over there too if the winner hosts. The Philly-Lancaster-Harrisburg line isn't a bad centerline for most eastcoast cities. Lancaster has served well for years for the largest HMGS historical minis conventions.
Cheers,
Mo
KarlLagerbottom - Dec 18, 2005 - 02:12 PM
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Torg wrote:
There are more votes for the New World Cup, so why is it going to be called the Amorical Cup?
'Cause that's what I voted for!
Seriously Torg, I think that the name that's getting used now is just to facilitate discussion. Once everything is set, we'll see what the final tally reads.
-RobO
P.S. Psst...Woodie, can I vote again?
Hoshi_Komi - Dec 18, 2005 - 05:06 PM
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I say we revote when people show up......If you show up .....u get a vote
just to make sure only NA people are voting.......this poll could include EURO votes.
jaylazer - Dec 19, 2005 - 06:35 AM
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Actually, that is a good idea Ken. I think would should set this up so that only American coaches can vote. I appreciate the input of our European brothers, however this is our event.
Colin - Jan 04, 2006 - 03:50 PM
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Has there been any more decided on this idea? Is it actually going to actually happen? The only problem I have is that I have to book my vacation time right away (probably early next week) and I doubt things will be decided by then so looks like I won't be going (though I would really like to).
Hoshi_Komi - Jan 04, 2006 - 08:15 PM
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come on Jay....make this happen
Ken
garth - Feb 03, 2006 - 02:42 PM
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Torg wrote:
There are more votes for the New World Cup, so why is it going to be called the Amorical Cup?
Yeah; 'Amorical' sounds too American for this Canuck, especially since the prize is going north.
Is there a spot on Team Canada? If not, I choose Team Discovery Channel!
Garth
garth - Feb 03, 2006 - 02:43 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Open bar? Are you insane?
OH, I am sooooooooooooooooooooo there!
Spazzfist - Feb 03, 2006 - 03:21 PM
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garth wrote:
Is there a spot on Team Canada? If not, I choose Team Discovery Channel!
Garth,
If I can make it, then maybe you and I can start to form Team D.I.R.E. (Diamonds In The Rough, Eh?)
We'll show the other's how it's done......
Spazz
Spazzfist - Feb 03, 2006 - 07:13 PM
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... or maybe even T.U.N.A. (The Underdogs of North America)!
KarlLagerbottom - Feb 04, 2006 - 08:53 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:
... or maybe even T.U.N.A. (The Underdogs of North America)!
I was wondering about that smell...