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CyberHare - Jun 13, 2006 - 04:53 AM
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Very simple. Will you be attending LRB5 tournaments?
Doubleskulls - Jun 13, 2006 - 05:03 AM
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IMO the rules are secondary to the social occassion.
CyberHare - Jun 13, 2006 - 05:31 AM
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I thank you for the answer Ian. In no way shape or for is this meant as a put down but I placed this question in the "North American" section for a reason 
After all, as it has been in the past so shall it continue to be that regional areas of the world will continue to do things differently.
Kolja_TBBF - Jun 13, 2006 - 06:38 AM
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I will.
Yes, sure, not all the isues will be ironed out (especially for tourney play) but it'll be fresh. Besides, little LRB changes over the years always mess things up anyway (Pro should have stayed a trait grumble, grumble) so there's always changes anyway and besides, I am a jaded coach who will enjoy something new (I do believe that way too many LRB5 changes were decided by/for jaded coaches but since it is here now, I may as well enjoy it).
Kolja
Spazzfist - Jun 13, 2006 - 06:54 AM
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I agree with Doubleskulls says. To me the tournament is a chance to play the game I love and to get together with friends, some of whom I only see at these tournaments.
I am not going to let something like a rules system get in the way of my enjoymennt of the whole tournament experience.
Spazz
Clan_Skaven - Jun 13, 2006 - 07:32 AM
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Nope it's ruining the game IMO!
A bunch of new assinine skills....
ok you have this skill?..... well I have this skill & combined with this trait..... ah but you also have thos 2 traits that cancle out my other trait!.... aha I have this other skill that voids that other trait, .... Wait what was I going to do again?
Ok so I'm obviously being sarcastic, but IMO its becoming too much like 2nd eddition. (too many rules, too confusing, too frustrating)
Why reinvent the wheel back to a square?
Thats why I voted no.
Rod.
KarlLagerbottom - Jun 13, 2006 - 10:08 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:
Thats why I voted no.
Rod.
That's why I voted yes. 
Seriously though...it's the game that we are getting together to play...there is no real point in getting in a twist (Sorry Cam) over the rules. The rankings are misleading anyway, so the specific rules only set the context of individual tourneys. Go to have fun...if you don't like the whatever a given tourney's rule set is...don't go. Save your money/time for the tourney rules you do like and enjoy the time you spend with your friends.
-Rob
(Mr. "I should take my own advice and not sweat the repeated Double-Double Skulls.")
bampf - Jun 14, 2006 - 04:42 PM
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I (and the rest of the Mafia) will gleefully attend LRB5 tournies. No more laundry list of house rules trying to make LRB4 playable for tournies!
Xtreme - Jun 14, 2006 - 08:26 PM
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Doubleskulls wrote:
IMO the rules are secondary to the social occassion.
I agree, LRB 5, LRB 4 or 3ed, whatever the rules good crowd of people will get me there.
CyberHare - Jun 15, 2006 - 04:05 AM
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bampf wrote:
I (and the rest of the Mafia) will gleefully attend LRB5 tournies. No more laundry list of house rules trying to make LRB4 playable for tournies!
Other than the standard fix of Dirty Player I was unaware there was a laundry list of house rules. Such as?
bampf - Jun 15, 2006 - 12:31 PM
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DP, Gen skill access for mummies, KO table changes...
Paul - Jun 15, 2006 - 01:53 PM
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so what, mummies get block, thats one team at the tournament, maybe two, oh well. Its still a team where the best agility is 2 and the fastest player goes 6, I don't think it makes a huge difference.
The KO table in 4.0 is fine. The only change I've seen made is to limit the length of get the ref to d6 turns. Pitch Invasion is fixed, no more riots, blitz isn't nearly as bad. What else is there to complain about on the 4.0 KO table?
the long and short of it is that the rules of the tournament shouldn't matter, if it does, maybe you should think about why you're playing the game in the first place. Tournaments are about meeting new people, having some fun.
CyberHare - Jun 15, 2006 - 03:30 PM
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bampf wrote:
DP, Gen skill access for mummies, KO table changes...
Mummies and the kickoff table constitute a "laundry list of house rules"?
The kickoff table in 4.0 is fine for tournamet play. Some people adjust it for personal tournament flavor.
CyberHare - Jun 15, 2006 - 03:41 PM
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Paul wrote:
the long and short of it is that the rules of the tournament shouldn't matter, if it does, maybe you should think about why you're playing the game in the first place. Tournaments are about meeting new people, having some fun.
There-in lies the truth and the problem. The rules of the event should almost be background noise. A beat to the rythm of the event referenced now and then to keep in time with the rest of the group. We've spent years getting 4.0 to the point where we can show up at events without even having looked at the rules and jump right in. 5.0 is now bringing those rules out of the background and putting them right in the face of everyone who wants or doesn't want to use them. After reaching almost perfect harmony we've decided to toss out the conductor and half the orchestra. Some of the new players have talent but the new conductor has suspect loyalties and is sleeping with the bosses daughter 
bampf - Jun 15, 2006 - 06:41 PM
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Mummies and the kickoff table constitute a "laundry list of house rules"?
Yes. Plus with LRB 5 some one may actually bring DEs to a tourney, skill selections may not be the same old boring ones always taken. If a jostling of the rules sends things into chaos please explain why tournies like the Challenge of Qermit and (gasp) Death Bowl use their own unique rules and seem to do just fine.
Never said I wouldn t attend a LRB 4 tourney. Just said I d gleefully attend an LRB 5 (because personally I think they re a big upgrade). Just as I d gleefully attend an all stunty tourney, or whatever other themed tourney happens to be within driving distance.
You can t have it both ways... saying the rules are secondary to the event and then stamping your feet about LRB 5 is a contradictory argument!
CyberHare - Jun 16, 2006 - 04:06 AM
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bampf wrote:
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Mummies and the kickoff table constitute a "laundry list of house rules"?
Yes.
bampf wrote:
Plus with LRB 5 some one may actually bring DEs to a tourney, skill selections may not be the same old boring ones always taken.
No it'll be new boring ones. It'll now be like Clan Skaven layed out. If a bunch of teams have X then eveyone else will take Y because it cancels out X.
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If a jostling of the rules sends things into chaos please explain why tournies like the Challenge of Qermit and (gasp) Death Bowl use their own unique rules and seem to do just fine.
Well firstly both those events use mostly additional rules and a few house rule changes. The core rules such as rosters, skills, etc don't change. When I went to Qermit last year I hadn't read a single rule before showing up. A lot of people hadn't. There were no rule problems at all because we all knew the core rules. Same thing happens at Death Bowl. People show up and just know the core rules. 5.0 isn't a jostling of the rules. It's a tear down and rebuild.
bampf wrote:
You can t have it both ways... saying the rules are secondary to the event and then stamping your feet about LRB 5 is a contradictory argument!
I didn't say they were secondary. I said..
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The rules of the event should almost be background noise. A beat to the rythm of the event...
A beat is not secondary to the music. It's the core yet unnoticed unless you want to hear it.
Darkson - Jun 16, 2006 - 03:07 PM
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Ok, I know I'm not the target audience, but...
LRB 4 for me, though I'm going to have to bite the bullet and try to keep on top of LRB 5 rules for tourney play. I'm hoping there'll be plenty of UK tourneys (and hopefully some overseas ones for me in the future) will keep 4.0 rules, but I doubt enough will for me to be able to ignore the 5.0 rules completely.
But as others have said, for me the games are secondary to having a good time with mates I might not see for months on end.
CyberHare - Jun 16, 2006 - 03:20 PM
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You can be part of the target audience and plan a trip to Death Bowl
longfang - Jun 16, 2006 - 08:26 PM
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Why would you not want to attend a tourny simply because it's LRB5. It's not going to make much difference to tourny play anyway, teams only get to earn a few skills over the course of 5 or 6 games. Apart from the odd few I think most touney's will be LRB5 and we can't knock it until we've given it a go. If it's enough to put you off going then it's your loss perhaps to everybody elses relief at you not attending.
CyberHare - Jun 19, 2006 - 04:57 AM
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Longfang wrote:
If it's enough to put you off going then it's your loss perhaps to everybody elses relief at you not attending.
In Europe those 14 people might not seem like much. Here in Canada, those 14 people are 50% or more of your attendance. Nahh I guess no one will miss half their attendance
Zinak - Jun 19, 2006 - 06:32 AM
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If it's enough to put you off going then it's your loss perhaps to everybody elses relief at you not attending.
I agree.. but thats just my 10 points worth
Zinak
KarlLagerbottom - Jun 19, 2006 - 08:48 AM
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CyberHare wrote:
In Europe those 14 people might not seem like much. Here in Canada, those 14 people are 50% or more of your attendance. Nahh I guess no one will miss half their attendance
Well if you can't please everyone, you might as well please the majority.
CyberHare - Jun 19, 2006 - 09:05 AM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:
Well if you can't please everyone, you might as well please the majority.
I would normally 100% agree with you and if the poll were like 20 to 5 I'd probably grudgingly agree. But 20 to 16? Seems the majority is pretty thin.
Zinak - Jun 19, 2006 - 09:56 AM
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hmm 20 +16 = hmmm 36... now if my math does not fail me here I believe that the 20 would be the majority in this case. Thin or not it is still the majority. In the majority wins system there is no grey area for majority wins UNLESS it is only winning by a few votes then we can change the rules.
Zinak
Jonny_P - Jun 19, 2006 - 10:05 AM
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Just play, who cares? This isn't the first time new rules have been introduced. It's called LRB5, as in the 5th version.
nyarlathotep - Jun 19, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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I'll attend any tournament I can get to. It's time and money that are the limiting factors, not the ruleset.
Zinak - Jun 19, 2006 - 12:03 PM
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I'll attend any tournament I can get to. It's time and money that are the limiting factors, not the ruleset.
Great way to put it....
Zinak
Paul - Jun 19, 2006 - 12:36 PM
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yea I'm not a huge fan of LRB 5, but for 17 people to outright say that they won't attend a LRB 5 tournament seems kind silly.
Spazzfist - Jun 19, 2006 - 12:43 PM
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Paul wrote:
yea I'm not a huge fan of LRB 5, but for 17 people to outright say that they won't attend a LRB 5 tournament seems kind silly.
Agreed. I wonder if we will see these people slinking in inconspicuously to some of the LRB 5 tourneys when all the smoke has cleared and the dust has settled.
Spazz
Darkson - Jun 21, 2006 - 03:12 AM
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Zinak wrote:
hmm 20 +16 = hmmm 36... now if my math does not fail me here I believe that the 20 would be the majority in this case. Thin or not it is still the majority. In the majority wins system there is no grey area for majority wins UNLESS it is only winning by a few votes then we can change the rules.
But looking at it the other way, how many of the 20 will still happily play in a LRB 4 tourney?
What's better? A 36-man LRB 4 tourney, or a 20-man LRB 5 tourney?
Losing (approx) 50% of your attendees just so you can play the newest rules doesn't sound like a sensible plan to me, especially if (unlike here in Europe) tourney numbers aren't huge anyway.
Jonny_P - Jun 21, 2006 - 10:06 AM
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Then what will you do when LRB6 comes out....switch to 5, or stay with 4?
My point is, you need to evolve with the game. When the original 4th edition came out my league was totally against it and we played with 3rd edition with a bunch of house rules added in for a long time. Then we when started playing with other people and in tournaments, we felt like beginners. Since then we have always played the newest rules set, sometimes even before they are official!
CyberHare - Jun 21, 2006 - 10:29 AM
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jpeletis wrote:
My point is, you need to evolve with the game.
Actually the game needed to evolve with us not us to the game. That's how we got LRB4. The LRB5 isn't evolution. Evolution would have been to allow the tournament scene to grow into it's own. Instead we're slapped back to square one with new rosters, skills, costs, cards, etc. All of which need to be tournament balanced all over again.
Zinak - Jun 21, 2006 - 10:43 AM
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What's better? A 36-man LRB 4 tourney, or a 20-man LRB 5 tourney
If LRB5 is the current rules set then I would say that a 20 man lrb 5 tourney is better way to go.
If you get right down to it you need to realise that the rules has changed/evolved and we need to move on with them. This happenes in all the GW based games and you hear the same bitching everytime. I bet if I took the time or even cared to I would see the same people who are bitchin' now be the ones who bitched when lrb 4 came out.
Anyway try and rememebr its a game and if you do not like the rules then don t play the game.
Zinak
bampf - Jun 21, 2006 - 02:04 PM
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Instead we're slapped back to square one with new rosters, skills, costs, cards, etc. All of which need to be tournament balanced all over again
Back to square one? What cards? Are you kidding me? The differences from LRB 4 to 5 in respect to tournament play are so minimal these kind of statements just show the kind of blind hatred and ignorance some people have to this switch over. If you want to bitch about LRB 5 in respect to league play, I m fine with that. There are radical changes there (some I think are good, some I think are awful). But for tourney play you re talking a few much needed roster changes and a handful of new skills. For the most part, unless you re keen to play Ogres, DEs or Norse (none of which are particularly popular tourney teams) the change will be largely transparent.
Go play 1st edition if you are so blindly against change. This is GW s game... every single system they have does this... new editions come... players adapt and you move on. The ones who d rather hold their breath until their faces turn purple than stay current can be left behind. No big loss.
CyberHare - Jun 21, 2006 - 04:50 PM
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bampf wrote:
If you want to bitch about LRB 5 in respect to league play, I m fine with that. There are radical changes there (some I think are good, some I think are awful). But for tourney play you re talking a few much needed roster changes and a handful of new skills. For the most part, unless you re keen to play Ogres, DEs or Norse (none of which are particularly popular tourney teams) the change will be largely transparent.
Actually I've stayed pretty far away from any league discussion of the PBBL rules for the simple fact that I havn't played league in years. It's really not a form of the game I'm interested in and I've said many times that these rules are probably fine for league play. Tournament play though is a different game.
Norse aren't a popular tourney team. You're kidding right?
Fan Favorite, Fend, Grab, Sneaky Git, Titchy, Wrestle, to but name a few of the new skills, never mind the modified ones, are more than a hand full of new skills. That's like saying we'll remove block and dodge from the game and nothing will change.
bampf wrote:
Go play 1st edition if you are so blindly against change. This is GW s game... every single system they have does this... new editions come... players adapt and you move on. The ones who d rather hold their breath until their faces turn purple than stay current can be left behind. No big loss.
Actually it's not GW's game but that's a whole other discussion. When GW decided to abandon BB for a decade I guess those of us who still played the game were pretty darn stupid and should have just followed the shepherd and done the same. Man what were we doing thinking for ourselves. Boy were we blind. Maybe there's a few amongst the crowd who like to think for themselves instead of being lead around blindly for no better reason than whim and fancy.
lawquoter - Jun 21, 2006 - 05:37 PM
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It's our game. f*&k gw.
I'll go wherever snew, xtreme, phil, omm, mrinprophet, karl, and the rest of my boys are. Hell, I don't even have to play. I'd prefer to, but it's not the real reason.
Hoshi_Komi - Jun 21, 2006 - 06:46 PM
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GW had very little to do with this latest rules change.....
It is more about the people at this point. I'm gonna miss the mafia and my old league.
My main dislikes in non-league bloodbowl: the new fouling rules, the messing with skaven roster, norse roster, losing bad kick, adding new positionals, messing with big guys...surprisingly the treeman is now the cheapest big guy-----
KarlLagerbottom - Jun 21, 2006 - 09:13 PM
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gken1 wrote:
...surprisingly the treeman is now the cheapest big guy-----
I guess the Iron Chefs must have had a coupon.
EDIT: Seriously though...regardless of who own's the game that you end up playing...pick your preference and enjoy. OR...come up with your own game and enjoy. I know that the whole point of this forum is to dicuss such things...but I think before anyone plays politics...it should be remembered that it is just a game. I wouldn't care if the next 2000 people voted against LRB5...I am still going to play whatever the nearest tournies and leagues dish-up. (And make a run at the Spoon...or whatever it's called in the current incarnation of the game. )
Darkson - Jun 22, 2006 - 02:46 AM
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Zinak wrote:
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What's better? A 36-man LRB 4 tourney, or a 20-man LRB 5 tourney
If LRB5 is the current rules set then I would say that a 20 man lrb 5 tourney is better way to go.
Guess that's where we differ then. I'd rather attend a tourney were I can catch up with 35 other guys that I might not see again for a few months, rather than a tourney were only 19 of them turn up, just because it's playing the "official" rules.
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If you get right down to it you need to realise that the rules has changed/evolved and we need to move on with them.
Why? Why do I "need to move on"? I can happily play BB at my club in a league, and I attend 5 or 6 tourneys a year happily playing LRB 4, with many more if I had the time/money. All the tourneys I go to are well attended. Why would I be happy to see a reduction in attendees and/or tourneys, just to be up-to-date?
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I bet if I took the time or even cared to I would see the same people who are bitchin' now be the ones who bitched when lrb 4 came out.
Well, can't speak for others, but I thought LRB 1-4 were improvements, and welcomed them. Can't say the same for LRB 5.
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Anyway try and rememebr its a game and if you do not like the rules then don t play the game.
I do remember it's a game, and I enjoy playig it against friends, which is why I'd rather play a fun version with more mates, rather than a "new" version with fewer.
Doubleskulls - Jun 22, 2006 - 03:40 AM
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Darkson wrote:
What's better? A 36-man LRB 4 tourney, or a 20-man LRB 5 tourney?
Bigger is better 
I really couldn't care less about the rules used.
lawquoter - Jun 22, 2006 - 05:34 AM
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I suspect this edition will be like the gold. oops, shouldn't have mentioned it. 
CyberHare - Jun 22, 2006 - 08:20 AM
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Trouble maker
bampf - Jun 22, 2006 - 12:57 PM
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Fan Favorite, Fend, Grab, Sneaky Git, Titchy, Wrestle, to but name a few of the new skills, never mind the modified ones, are more than a hand full of new skills. That's like saying we'll remove block and dodge from the game and nothing will change.
Now that s about the silliest statement I ve heard in this discussion yet. In a tourney format where people choose around half a dozen skills you think those additions will make that much difference? Compared to Block and Dodge?
First off two of the skills you ve listed can t even be selected. Add in juggernaut and kick return and that s it. A couple of which you ll never see taken in tourney play. That s a handful.
I m in my fifth league using the new skills (save for some of the later additions like Sneaky Git) with over 560 games played with them! I ve yet to see any one of them to be overpowered. Rarely is one even selected. People will still always take Block, Dodge, Tackle and Guard first because they re still the most powerful and useful skills. The overall impact will be minimal. Coming from 500+ games experience, I assure you of that. The sky is not falling. It s still BloodBowl. Give it a try and you ll see that.
GalakStarscraper - Jun 22, 2006 - 09:19 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:
gken1 wrote:
...surprisingly the treeman is now the cheapest big guy-----
I guess the Iron Chefs must have had a coupon.
You know folks ... if you are going to slam me ... it would be appreciated if you actually read the rules so that you at least slammed me for valid reasons.
The Treeman is not the cheapest big guy. Brian already rolled out his Galak abused this and that with the power of the Halfling team and its background ... at least he used a chair with three legs (although he and I beg to differ if they were shaped like a triangle or a line) instead of the two legged comment I just read.
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On a side note ... I've played dozens of games at TV 100 with the LRB 5.0 rules and they play the same to me in everyway that actually matters ... so I'll go to any tournament I can get to whether LRB 4.0 or LRB 5.0 ... because playing the game is the only thing that matters to me.
Galak
lawquoter - Jun 22, 2006 - 09:34 PM
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CyberHare wrote:
Trouble maker
who me? 
you think LRB 5.0 sucks, you just wait until you see LRB 6.0. 
Darkson - Jun 23, 2006 - 06:31 AM
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Did you get the preview copy as well?
Didn't you think that ST6 for Halfling Blockers was a little excessive?
CyberHare - Jun 23, 2006 - 07:31 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
Brian already rolled out his Galak abused this and that with the power of the Halfling team and its background ... at least he used a chair with three legs (although he and I beg to differ if they were shaped like a triangle or a line) instead of the two legged comment I just read.
Hey how did I get implicated in that comment. I get a share of the blame for stuff I didn't even comment on now And don't even get me started on the Iron Chiefs again. My "chair" was firmly bolted to the floor on that one.
Hoshi_Komi - Jun 23, 2006 - 09:24 AM
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it's just an arbitrary increase in Big Guy price.
Treemen and Trolls go up 10k,
while others go up significantly more.
hmmm, why?
Treeman and Mino cost the same before and were balanced at those prices---Except on CD team...but that's another story entirely,
so the fix is to raise the price.
Treeman means more to a FLing team than a MINO to any other team...so why did it get less of a price increase than the mino? just a number pulled out of someone's butt I guess.
GalakStarscraper - Jun 23, 2006 - 10:35 AM
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Treeman means more to a FLing team than a MINO to any other team...so why did it get less of a price increase than the mino? just a number pulled out of someone's butt I guess.
Just to respond to this ... the numbers were done with a math formula that was discussed on the SG forum 2 years ago and used consistently across all the Big Guys ... there was no personal opinion or agendas involved ... and the formulas were agreed to by the posters on SG at the time of the discussion of increasing the prices.
Galak
Spazzfist - Jun 23, 2006 - 11:15 AM
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So I guess what Galak is saying is that there was a formula that was pulled out of someone's butt, not just a number
GalakStarscraper - Jun 23, 2006 - 11:40 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:
So I guess what Galak is saying is that there was a formula that was pulled out of someone's butt, not just a number
Galak
KarlLagerbottom - Jun 23, 2006 - 04:52 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:
You know folks ... if you are going to slam me ... it would be appreciated if you actually read the rules so that you at least slammed me for valid reasons
Galak
Umm... JOKING!
Well...I thought it was funny.
Hoshi_Komi - Jun 23, 2006 - 05:44 PM
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ooohh.....let's make the formula OFFICIAL!!
that SG forum is where we got LRB 5 which is half crap.....no respect for that process.
The #'s were balanced before.....how come every player wasn't recomputed using this "formula"?
and this is the same formula where the starting price for the star player basis is differently applied to different players? I remember reading that arugment you had with someone.....didn't end well from what I remember.
angryrob - Oct 16, 2006 - 07:04 AM
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Man oh man, half of you have probably have not even fully play tested LRB 5.
The boys and i have played 75 + games, the new system has been very agreeable. Alot of things have been worked out for smoother play and the new skills are great.
Don't fight it, LRB 5.0 is the future
Notorious_jtb - Oct 16, 2006 - 08:31 AM
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This whole discussion is sooooo "human".
People just fear the unknown.
Changes can make a game more interesting.
I for one would like to see a team of wrestling chaos beastmen take down all of those fancy pants blocking teams!!
Variety is good.
As several people already mentioned the new rules make several teams tournament playable, which can only be a GOOD THING.
Boredom is bad.
And I am bored of feeling like I absolutely, positively, no question, must take (otherwise I'm an idiot) block skill. Block is still the best skill though.
Learning is fun.
Team/race balance is not important. The teams are deliberately not balanced anyway. If someone works out a super powered plan for LRB5 and wins with it, fair play to them. It is/was/will be possibe for everyone to do it, so it isn't unfair. But obviously we might want to prevent it happening twice
But it doesn't really make much difference in the end.
I will go to LRB4 tournaments if i can (and take block x 6) but I would prefer LRB5 (and take block x3 and some other fun stuff)
AND FINALLY: TRY IT, YOU MIGHT LIKE IT
(unlike the wierd Dr Pepper at Deathbowl IV (Sorry Bryan everything else was good, even my most TD prize recall, good work Rob P)
In the spirit of sharing new experiences, the Ottawa Lads (Angryrob, Anthony Times, Twodiceblock + me) are going to be running an LRB5 tournament in febuary time (subject to calender discussions with other tournament organisers).
I suggest you all come and sample the delights of Ottawa and LRB5 and then see if you fancy changing the other tournaments as well. Just try it once before you reject it.
Joe
p.s. I look forward to throwing in my two cents worth (not in england anymore, sigh) into the discussion of future editions of the rules, role on LRB69, thats what I say
CyberHare - Oct 16, 2006 - 11:11 AM
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Hey what's wrong with Cherry Vanille Dr Pepper
I said I'd let the people decide at the event and it was fairly clear where most of the coaches wanted to go. Well ok everyone except for Zombie It would be a shame if we lost Zombie as a casualty of LRB 5.0. For all his quirks he's still a member of the community. It's ok to fight city hall but when you're the last guy standing outside in the rain, it's time to move on.
TuernRedvenom - Oct 17, 2006 - 05:04 AM
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Kinda funny to read this in hindsight. I have attended a few lrb 5 tourneys around here and I have heard no-one complain, nor have I seen huge amounts of people dropping out of tourneys (attendances remained about constant).
Most people agreed that the game is 99% the same and the rest even said it's better with some saying it's slightly worse.
In Belgium and Holland it seems 100% clear that lrb 4 is a thing of the past for tourneys and I think that is a good thing. Goodbye lrb 4, you were a good ruleset but you have been replaced by something newer and better.
GalakStarscraper - Nov 12, 2006 - 05:40 PM
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Chaos Cup moved from LRB 4.0 to 5.0 and we had almost 3 times the number of folks attend. There were definitely other factors that had them attend ... but the ruleset didn't keep them away as so many posted would happen.
At the end of the day ... the meeting online friends face to face and having a good time were still more important than what the rules were.
Galak