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Rules Questions - skill "Big Hands"
machtin - Feb 01, 2011 - 10:29 AM
Post subject: skill "Big Hands"
Sorry, but it´s me again. Should this forum be named "machtins questions" instead "Rule Questions"? Wink

CRP page 63 describes the skill "Big Hand" as following:

"[...] The player ignores modifier(s) for enemy tackle zones or Pouring Rain weather when he attemps to pick up a ball"

I think this should be an "and" instead of " or", right ?

Greetings from the "rule nazi" Wink
Doubleskulls - Feb 01, 2011 - 03:48 PM
Post subject: RE: skill "Big Hands"
Do you think any reasonable person would be confused?
daloonieshaman - Feb 01, 2011 - 05:05 PM
Post subject: RE: skill "Big Hands"
but ...
Apocrypha - Feb 01, 2011 - 07:04 PM
Post subject: Re: RE: skill "Big Hands"
      Doubleskulls wrote:
Do you think any reasonable person would be confused?


Do you happen to have a background in law, Doubleskulls? Very Happy

Reasonable seems to get thrown around so much in my day-to-day life...
machtin - Feb 02, 2011 - 01:40 AM
Post subject: Re: RE: skill "Big Hands"
      Doubleskulls wrote:
Do you think any reasonable person would be confused?


Reasonable persons? This is a bb forum, right?! Wink
Grumbledook - Feb 02, 2011 - 08:33 AM
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: skill "Big Hands"
I thought this was an odd change to make to the rule to be fair

assumed it was due to all the tinkering of the mutations, didn't realise it was just badly worded
connexion - Dec 29, 2011 - 06:11 AM
Post subject: RE: Re: RE: skill "Big Hands"
Or you can look at it from a bivalent logic point of view.
The OR logic gate gives 'true' results if both statements are 'true' or when just one is 'true' (in effect the OR is a combination of XOR and AND).
The AND gate gives 'true' only if both statements are true.
The XOR gate (either A or B) gives 'true' only if one statement is false and the other true.
Applying this to the rulebook wording, Big Hand applies to tackle zones OR pouring rain. It's not either one condition or the other nor both conditions simultaneously (if it was written with 'and' instead of 'or').
<pedantic mode off> Wink
SuM - Jan 03, 2012 - 11:58 AM
Post subject: Re: RE: Re: RE: skill "Big Hands"
      connexion wrote:
Or you can look at it from a bivalent logic point of view.
The OR logic gate gives 'true' results if both statements are 'true' or when just one is 'true' (in effect the OR is a combination of XOR and AND).
The AND gate gives 'true' only if both statements are true.
The XOR gate (either A or B) gives 'true' only if one statement is false and the other true.
Applying this to the rulebook wording, Big Hand applies to tackle zones OR pouring rain. It's not either one condition or the other nor both conditions simultaneously (if it was written with 'and' instead of 'or').
<pedantic mode off> Wink


Ouch that hurt my brain!
How about "and/or"??
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