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Rules Questions - Secret Weapons Bombs?
GColeman76 - May 28, 2003 - 03:49 AM
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I know that secret weapon rules are only experimental but.......When a bomb is thrown when can a turnover occur?
If it is not accurate or is it only when someone from your team gets knocked over by the bomb by any means? 
I hope that is clear??!!!??!!***@@@!!!???
Please clarify. 
Redfang - May 28, 2003 - 03:52 AM
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If it is inaccurate: NO
If the knocked over player was holding the ball: YES
If the knocked over player was not holding the ball: I don't know for sure (don't have time to look it up) but I think not
R
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 04:38 AM
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Redfang wrote:
If it is inaccurate: NO
True, a bomb is not the ball
Redfang wrote:
If the knocked over player was holding the ball: YES
Absolutely!!
Redfang wrote:
If the knocked over player was not holding the ball: I don't know for sure (don't have time to look it up) but I think not
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
Cheers
Rob
Redfang - May 28, 2003 - 06:15 AM
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Oh, OK, it's a TO after all then 
Thanks Rob,
R
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 07:18 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
But it is not a turnover if a thrown goblin/halfling fails his landing but he wasn't holding the ball...
I just love rule loopholes 
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 07:27 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
Gattolardo wrote:
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
But it is not a turnover if a thrown goblin/halfling fails his landing but he wasn't holding the ball...
I just love rule loopholes
True 
but then, the TTM rules clearly states that a bad landing is NOT A TURNOVER unless the little lad was the ball carrier, much like the new Off for a Bite rule says that an injuried thrall is not a TO unless he was the ball carrier.
So, unless the specified rule clearly says otherwise, any player knocked over is a TO.
Cheers
Rob
jmccubbin - May 28, 2003 - 07:44 AM
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I was sure the Bomb rules state that it is not a turnover if you bomb one of your own players provided they do not have the ball. I don't have the LRB with me right now, but I am almost positive it gives that rule exception under the LRB bomb rules.
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 08:35 AM
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jmccubbin wrote:
I was sure the Bomb rules state that it is not a turnover if you bomb one of your own players provided they do not have the ball. I don't have the LRB with me right now, but I am almost positive it gives that rule exception under the LRB bomb rules.
I just checked the Bomb description and the general Secret Weapons text, and I did'nt find any mention of an exception to the TO rules. 
Maybe it was in a older version...
Cheers
Rob
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 08:54 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
I just checked the Bomb description and the general Secret Weapons text, and I did'nt find any mention of an exception to the TO rules.
Yeah, there is no mention of it not saying that it isn't a TO if it knocks down one of your players...so I'd say it would be a TO if it did happen.
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 09:15 AM
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Agentrock wrote:
Yeah, there is no mention of it not saying that it isn't a TO if it knocks down one of your players...so I'd say it would be a TO if it did happen.
...was that a triple negative? *holding aching head*
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 09:20 AM
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Well, bluntly said:
Unless some rule CLEARLY SAYS IT DOESN'T (like TTM and OFAB) a knocked over player from the moving team is ALWAYS a TO.
Aspirin Rob
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:29 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
...was that a triple negative? *holding aching head*
Was it really...yeah, I guess it was! So what is the grammer rule for that?? 
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:30 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
Unless some rule CLEARLY SAYS IT DOESN'T (like TTM and OFAB) a knocked over player from the moving team is ALWAYS a TO.
Yep...that's how we'd rule it in our league!
skummy - May 28, 2003 - 09:38 AM
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Agentrock wrote:
Was it really...yeah, I guess it was! So what is the grammer rule for that??
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head.
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:52 AM
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Dammit...not again!
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 10:33 AM
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skummy wrote:
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head.
mine just threw chalk board erasers at me
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 11:57 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
skummy wrote:
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head.
mine just threw chalk board erasers at me
Lucky man, mine just threw blocks at me....
never rolled a skull either........ 