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Rules Questions - Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off

Tojurub - Mar 01, 2013 - 06:25 AM
Post subject: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
Assuming the ball carrier with the Dump-Off-Skill is gazed by a vampire and thereafter the ball carrier gets blocked/blitzed. The way I read HG, I would assume that he is NOT allowed to dump off the ball, since he is influenced by the Gazing, which doesn't allow to pass the ball.


Is that a correct understanding of the rules?
Daggers - Mar 01, 2013 - 07:13 AM
Post subject: RE: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
I would agree with that. But I could see an arguement saying that since the player is not able to do anything until the start of his next action, and the dump-off is that players next action, then he is able to do it. Curious to see what the powers that be say about the interpretation of this.

Along the same lines, how does this event work with someone that has Pass Block as well. Since the logic is pretty much the same.
delevus - Mar 01, 2013 - 08:33 AM
Post subject: RE: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
You may not dump the ball off. The skill says that the player can not catch, intercept, pass, assist blocks or fouls. It also says that you can not voluntarily move. Pass Block says that the player moves so it would not be usable. Other players skills that do not required movement are fine, like Side Step.
Daggers - Mar 01, 2013 - 09:34 AM
Post subject: RE: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
Yes, I get that part Delevus. But the last part of the Hypnotic Gaze skill desription says "until his next Action of the drive ends". Would using Dump-off not be his next action. Pass Block is not as clear.

Either way, just playing devils advocate, I think the intent of Hypnotic Gaze is to stop things like Pass Block and Dump off from occuring. So I would still say the intent is that you can't use those skills.
Darkson - Mar 01, 2013 - 10:14 AM
Post subject: RE: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
Dump Off and Pass Block aren't actions. Move, Block, Blitz, Pass and Foul are. So neither cancellation HG.
Daggers - Mar 01, 2013 - 11:04 AM
Post subject: RE: Hypthotic Gaze and Dump Off
Wondered that, either way, just found another use for Hypnotic Gaze.
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