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Clan_Skaven - Jun 29, 2011 - 11:38 AM
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Attendance....

)Greg Shelton (odd man out)
)Joe Michaud (odd man out)
)Rod Davidson (odd man out)
1 )Rob Pharand
2)Laurant
3 )Corey H
4 )Chris E.
5 )Jeana?
6 )Craig Thompson-Wood
7 )Peter Meers
8 )Chris Poynter
9 )Bryan Carlaw
10 ) Glamdryn
11 ) Glamdryn 2
12 )Mark H.
13 ) Kevin A. ?
14 )Alex
15 )
16 )
17 )

Clan_Skaven - Jun 29, 2011 - 11:40 AM
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Warpstone Tokens

Before each game You roll a 3d6 if you roll a 13 then you gain a Warpstone token for whole tourney. (if rolling for a Skaven or Underword team, You can gain one on a 13 or a triples) Only 13 Warpstone Tokens will be Available, once all 13 are won , sorry
All Warpstone Tokens can be used once per game (no matter if they succeed or fail)

Last year....

1) as a RR, roll a d6 if the roll is a 5+ you may use the RR, if the roll is a 2-4 nothing happens & the warpstone token is wasted, & a 1 roll on the injury table for that player (as if he were hit by "throw a rock result") a failed RR attempt will count as Your Team RR for that turn, so only should be usesd this way if you are out of RR's.

Ok to change this, make the RR 4+ instead of a 5+ (2-3 nothing happens) & a 1 roll on injury table same as before.

Last year...

2) as a smelling salt for one player, (treat as 1 bloodweisor babe for one player only , not all players) may be combined with one bloodweiser babe, but not two.
but when making the roll if the roll is a 1 before any modifers place the player in the dead & inj. box. (no matter the result, discard after one roll)

Ok with the new idea you will be able to keep tokens from game to game, so its possible to have more than one token at any time. So you could add 2 tokens to a single KO roll (for a 2+ roll) but on a 1 the player still goes to dead & injured box.

Last Year....

3) Bribe Ref. if a secret weapon or fouling player is sent off you may use this as a bribe. roll a d6, on a 4+ the bribe is a success, 1-3 the call stands. (but if the roll was a 1 or a 6 the result stands as stated above, but the Ref is a lil preocupied to with the warpstone to call anymore fouls or secret weapons for the remainder of this drive.

No Change.

New to this Year....

4) Warpstone Roulette!

Chose a player on your team to consume a small portion of the Warpstone Token then roll 2D6 if the result is a double, Role a D16 & apply result.

1: Big Hand
2: Bone Head
3: Claw
4: Disturbing Pr.
5: Extra Arms
6: Foul App.
7: Horns
8: Hypnotic Gaze
9: Prehensile Tail
10: Really Stupid
11: Regeneration
12: Tentacles
13: CHOSE!
14: Two Heads
15: Very Long Legs
16: Wild Animal

if the result rolled is already on the player (horns on a beastman, or Bonehead on an Ogre, then reroll the D16 until a result that he/she does not already have) The player gains this result for the remainder of the game, but leaves him before next game starts.

Lizardcore - Jun 29, 2011 - 11:44 AM
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what about tournament rules etc (team creation, ...)

Clan_Skaven - Jun 29, 2011 - 02:38 PM
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Ok You Bring 1 team its TV will be either 100 or 110 (not anything inbetween, so no 104TV , if you plan on going above 100, use all of it cause your TV will be considered 110. Any gold not spent on creation is wasted, so use it all up) Most people will probably take the TV110 team, but should you want 100k worth of inducements, you may take the TV100 team. It does not matter if everyone takes the same TV.

It is possible to have a match up with a 100K inducement
****only Bloodwiser babes, bribes, wandering appoth's, team RR's,50k or 100k cards may be chosen*****

****Goblin teams may take bribes for 50k instead of 100k, & halflings teams may take a Halfling Master Chef for 50k****

NO STAR PLAYERS MAY BE BOUGHT IN TEAM CREATION OR INDUCEMENTS

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Skill progression..

Before 1st game right after You have Drawn Your Division , You will Draw Your Magic Item ***Refer to page 4 on rules for Magic Items***

After the 1st game , 3 random players get 3 random upgrades

After the 2nd game 3 more random players get 3 more random upgrades

so going into thier 3rd game will have 6 upgrades & one Magic Item on 1-7 players.

No more skill progression after the 3rd game.

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Kick Off Table Changes.

As like every other year there are the same to changes to the Kick Off Table.

4: Is now "WARPSTONED" Both Coaches roll a D3 (no modifiers to the roll), the lower roll (both teams if tied) randomly selects one player. That player has become ill due to over exposure to Warpstone, for the remainder of this current Drive, that player gains the following : No Hands, Bonehead, Foul Appearance. (if he already has a Negative trait, then roll this Bonehead roll in addition to the other roll, so yes he'd have to pass both)

10: Is now "BLITZING THE SEAL" Inbetween games your team may have had too many Warpstone laced Brews & now they really need to release it. Treat just like a normal Blitz except after you call a move or blitz action roll a die, if you roll a 2+ continue with the called action, if you roll a 1, take a special move action instead where as the end of this move action the player must be on a sideline or endzone (as he pees off the field) should he not make it to the sideline or endzone for any reason place him in the reserves box. (if he was KO'd or seriously injured or killed before making it to the sideline or endzone, do not put him in reserves box, if he was stunned, then put him in the reserves box.)

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Rounds 4-6 Overtime. (Top 8 teams only)

The top 8 teams that advance to knockout stage can not tie thier games, so if tied at end of regulation, play sudden death overtime. Only unused RR's from 2nd half may be used (in other words, RR's do not replennish at start of OT). Whoever wins the kick off choses to kick or recieve, but after scattering the ball do not roll on kick off table, instead treat the result as an automatic, "BLITZING THE SEAL" (modified Blitz Action)

all the lower teams (teams that were not in top 8, can tie in rounds 4-6 & so there is no OT )

Clan_Skaven - Jun 29, 2011 - 02:39 PM
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Did I miss anything?

Lizardcore - Jun 29, 2011 - 02:47 PM
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Random upgrades or roll on the skill table (2-9 normal skills, 10 mouv or AV, 11 AG, 12 ST, and doubles....) ?

Clan_Skaven - Jun 29, 2011 - 03:07 PM
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Lizardcore wrote:

Random upgrades or roll on the skill table (2-9 normal skills, 10 mouv or AV, 11 AG, 12 ST, and doubles....) ?

why is this so confusing for you?

Wink

****randomly select a player , then roll 2d6 for him (3+5=8 thats a normal roll).... (1+1=2 thats a double or a normal roll).... (4+6=10 thats a +1 MA/AV or a normal roll).... (5+5=10 thats a +1 MA/AV or a doubles, or a normal roll) ....( 5+6=11 thats a +1 AG or a normal roll).... a (6+6=12 thats a +1 STR, or a double or a normal roll)

clear enough? Wink

Lizardcore - Jun 29, 2011 - 03:33 PM
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yes

thanks

Remember, I'm a skaven ! Too much warpstone. Moreover, I don't want people to think I voluntarily misunderstood the rules Very Happy

flyingdingle - Jul 13, 2011 - 10:22 AM
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Dude!! You moved the date!! It's very unlikely I'm going to make it which means that the midwest contingest that I was putting together won't be coming either...crap.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 13, 2011 - 02:15 PM
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flyingdingle wrote:

Dude!! You moved the date!! It's very unlikely I'm going to make it which means that the midwest contingest that I was putting together won't be coming either...crap.

sorry its usually 2nd weekend, & will most likely be again next year, but it could not work out this year, sorry bud

Chewblocka - Jul 13, 2011 - 02:28 PM
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Are the cabins are still in operation that late into the season? I don't want to miss out on some legendary cabin party action I've heard so much about.

flyingdingle - Jul 13, 2011 - 07:39 PM
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Actually, I shot off an email to my scheduler today to try and intercept him before he released the September schedule, and he was able to pull the switch off for me. So, I'm back on!!!

I'm coming to kick Laraunt's ass....again. Twisted Evil

Rod, do you mind if I post this on the zlurpee site to try and coax some guys into coming?

Lizardcore - Jul 13, 2011 - 08:31 PM
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flyingdingle wrote:

I'm coming to kick Laraunt's ass....again. :twisted

No pb, that means I'm gonna win it again Very Happy

I'll try to play better than last year this time Wink

And I'm sure you can advertise for the tournament as much as you want ! the more americans are coming, the easier the tournament gets Very Happy

Spazzfist - Jul 13, 2011 - 09:34 PM
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Lizardcore wrote:

And I'm sure you can advertise for the tournament as much as you want ! the more americans are coming, the easier the tournament gets Very Happy

I am living proof of that! Very Happy

Clan_Skaven - Jul 14, 2011 - 06:56 AM
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please do Sol, that would be great. & thank You

wapcaplets - Jul 26, 2011 - 09:27 AM
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Hey, guys. Not to hijack Rod's tourney thread but I'm doing another group order from Impact Miniatures. We'll get 10% off the entire order and 20% of the pre-discount price goes towards prize support for my tourney in November. If you're interested, send me an e-mail to blingtoof@engler.ca and I'll order your stuff for you and we can work out paying me back. For those in the Toronto area I can meet up with you at some point and anyone else can pay me back at The Warpstone Cup.

I am putting in this order on 1-AUG-2011 so you need to get me your order by THIS SUNDAY!!!

The 10% off is for anything on Impact's website except the Fantasy Fields gaming mats and Monny's Mortuary dugouts and scoreboards (you can still order those, just at full price).

Clan_Skaven - Jul 26, 2011 - 09:34 AM
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Ok, there will be some format changes to the tourney this year. I have had some folks tell me that the time factor & the 2 team method was a concern. Yes there are those that love the 2 team system, but more have had the feeling a 1 team system would be preferable.

So that being the case I can speed up the format by making it one team.

Also Eric who has been my stats God with the computer may not be able to attend this year & I'm basically useless with a computer if its not a video game.

Plus theres a tournament system I have been working on over the last year or so & got all the kinks out, & its more the way I had orriginally planned for the Warpstone Cup.

The tourney will still have the Warpstone Tokens in use, & the modified Kick Off table will still be used. Skill progression will be exactly the same....
1 random player gets 1 randome roll before game 1
3 random players get 3 random upgrades before game 2
3 random players get 3 random upgrades before round 3
from rounds 4 through 6 your team does not improve anymore.

If People still want the chance of getting inducements, they can register a 1,000 TV or 1,100 TV team. if everyone registers the 1,100 team thats cool, but the option not to is there.

There will be 4 pools & the 1st 3 games will be played vs your own pool. games 4 through 6 will be play off games (top two teams in each pool go through to playoff, bottom teams play off vs other bottom teams of other pools)

With this system, although rare, there is a chance you may play another team twice, but if the rematch is for the Cup it could be a revenge match!

I have play tested this system it is very easy to put together, I have myself & 2 others as the 3 odd men out (system like the Death Bowl, needs 3 oddmen out)

It will work with any number divided by 4, (4,8,12,16,20,24 ect)

Theres no need for using computer to work out matchups as it is based on a world cup soccer/rugby format.

Trust me this is a great system & it will be a great time, seeing who will be this Years Warpstone Cup Champion!

Chewblocka - Jul 26, 2011 - 10:33 AM
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I like the one-team playoff format so far. How will you be making the pools for the round robin? Will you have a draw, or will you organize them by region, or will you split up players so that no two people from the same region will be in the same initial pool?

If you divide the pools by region, there could be a city/East vs. West rivalry that begins as the top coach from each region plays each other. It would be similar to the old NHL playoff format. This could prove interesting in a couple of years similar to the Lakeside Cup.

wapcaplets - Jul 26, 2011 - 12:24 PM
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I'll miss the two-team format as this was a great way to try out a new team without having to slog through six games. That being said, I'm sure the new format will be fun.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 26, 2011 - 12:34 PM
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Zap_Rowsdower wrote:

For the 1st Year it will be random draws for pools, but I'm looking for next year, the top 4 places from the year before being the top 4 seeds (each in one division & the rest randomised.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 26, 2011 - 12:40 PM
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wapcaplets wrote:

I'll miss the two-team format as this was a great way to try out a new team without having to slog through six games. That being said, I'm sure the new format will be fun.

I do understand this, but I had many requests to do tourney with one team format, plus one team with 7 upgrades means only 7 choices, 2 teams with 7 upgrades means 14 choices, so as far as time managment one team format makes sense .

There are those like You that like the 2 team format, but I have heard from a great deal more that would prefer the single team system.

This tourney has evolved a bit over the years each change so far for the best, I do belive this next change will be for the best too.

wapcaplets - Jul 26, 2011 - 01:01 PM
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No worries, McGristle! It was an observation, not a criticism. I'll be there regardless of the format whether it's one team or two teams!

Lizardcore - Jul 26, 2011 - 02:07 PM
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what abour draws ? Extra time takes a lot of... extra time Wink

Clan_Skaven - Jul 26, 2011 - 02:16 PM
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Lizardcore wrote:

what abour draws ? Extra time takes a lot of... extra time Wink

extra time is only an issue in games 4, 5, 6 (& only with the top 8 teams) & in overtime only unused RR's from 2nd half are available.

flyingdingle - Jul 28, 2011 - 09:53 AM
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wapcaplets wrote:

I'll miss the two-team format as this was a great way to try out a new team without having to slog through six games. That being said, I'm sure the new format will be fun.

I second that, I thought the 2 team format made this tourney stand out from the rest. I also ended up playing two teams that I had never before used in a tourney. I'll be there either way, but I really liked the two team idea.

natsirtdm - Jul 28, 2011 - 12:30 PM
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Two teams was definitely fun and made the tournament different.

Bjorn9486 - Jul 28, 2011 - 12:37 PM
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flyingdingle wrote:

wapcaplets wrote:

I'll miss the two-team format as this was a great way to try out a new team without having to slog through six games. That being said, I'm sure the new format will be fun.

I second that, I thought the 2 team format made this tourney stand out from the rest.

Agreed, I'll miss it

Rod, do you have a tentative time on the first game on Saturday? We are thinking of driving up that morning since its a short trip and it would allow another guy to come.

Daggers - Jul 28, 2011 - 12:41 PM
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Two teams was fun, but I can see the problem with logistics and time if all those skills upgrades had to be accounted for. I am curious to see the playoff system and think it would be awesome. The knockout stage and final game become very important. Nice thinking Rod.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 28, 2011 - 10:11 PM
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Bjorn9486 wrote:

flyingdingle wrote:

wapcaplets wrote:

I'll miss the two-team format as this was a great way to try out a new team without having to slog through six games. That being said, I'm sure the new format will be fun.

I second that, I thought the 2 team format made this tourney stand out from the rest.

Agreed, I'll miss it

Rod, do you have a tentative time on the first game on Saturday? We are thinking of driving up that morning since its a short trip and it would allow another guy to come.

Well I'd like to start 1st game no later than 9:30 am , but would prefer 9 am start , what time are you looking to arrive?

Clan_Skaven - Jul 28, 2011 - 10:19 PM
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The main reason for switching from 2 team to 1 team format, is to speed up delay between games. (packing up one team unpacking another, picking 14 skills opposed to 7, keeping track of 2 different roster sheets opposed to one, all little things but when put together can eat up more time).

But if after this year the time does not speed up a great deal, or there is a much bigger request to bring it back the 2 team format i will. but again i'm just acting on the voices of many who expressed to me the time issues with the 2 team format.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 28, 2011 - 10:20 PM
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Tourney has been created, just needs to be accepted.

Bjorn9486 - Jul 29, 2011 - 05:59 AM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

Well I'd like to start 1st game no later than 9:30 am , but would prefer 9 am start , what time are you looking to arrive?

Yeah, that is what I was thinking and that would work

Daggers - Jul 29, 2011 - 01:34 PM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

Tourney has been created, just needs to be accepted.

Should be approved in afew days.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 02, 2011 - 06:39 PM
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Dwarfrunner wrote:

Clan_Skaven wrote:

Tourney has been created, just needs to be accepted.

Should be approved in afew days.

Is there something i need to do to get the approval?

generaljason - Aug 03, 2011 - 05:05 AM
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Hey Rod - thanks for moving the Warpstone Cup to the weekend of September the 24-25th. Very Happy

When we adjusted the Spike! Magazine dates from the B.C. long weekend (first weekend of August) to the second week of September we did it for 3 reasons:

1) we needed to get it off of a long weekend as it was hurting our local numbers for that tournament.
2) we needed to get it out of the summer. same reason as #1
3) we deliberately moved it closer to the Chaos Cup and they moved their Major closer to ours.

When I did this and chose the second weekend of September I had no idea that the Warpstone Cup had the same dates (believe me I thought I looked Rolling Eyes

), so again kudos to yourself for choosing a weekend that doesn't fall on the Spike! or the Chaos Cup weekend. My apologies for inadvertently choosing the same weekend starting in 2010.

Cheers,
Craig.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 03, 2011 - 06:47 AM
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i moved it because that weekend could not work this year, but it will be the 2nd weekend probably from now on (has been for the 1st 4 years as the Warpstone Cup used to be called the N.B.B.O "Niagaroth BloodBowl Open)

generaljason - Aug 03, 2011 - 07:29 AM
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Fair enough. The date change did fill me with a little hope though that a former Spike! champion might come out someday and defend his title, but alas the date change is only temporary. Wink

Daggers - Aug 03, 2011 - 08:38 AM
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Wait,,,,,Rid is the 2006 Spike Champion???? Who knew......(chuckle).....

Lizardcore - Aug 09, 2011 - 04:44 PM
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Hey Rod, once you have decided on the final rules, could you Edit the first post of the thread, It will be easier to find them.

btw, if you need help for your tournament (computer, software to manage the standings, etc...) just let me know, It's not a problem at all. I can bring a laptop with Eric programm, or if eric's programm is too complicated or unavailable, I can find another one that suits your needs.

take care

Clan_Skaven - Aug 10, 2011 - 04:08 AM
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Lizardcore wrote:

This new system is very easy to figure out without a computer, but if you can bring it anywat it could help, and ty.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 10, 2011 - 04:23 AM
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1st page edited.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 13, 2011 - 04:30 PM
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Greg has posted some progress with trophies , looking great.

Glamdryn - Aug 16, 2011 - 01:23 PM
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What is the schedule for this tourny? Im thinking about attending. What do people do after the tourny? What should I know for a first timer to the Warpstone? What races are allowed? etc questions...

Lizardcore - Aug 16, 2011 - 07:49 PM
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glamdryn wrote:

What is the schedule for this tourny? Im thinking about attending. What do people do after the tourny? What should I know for a first timer to the Warpstone? What races are allowed? etc questions...

Schedule is:

4 games on the saturday, 2 on the sunday (cf more info on the first page, second and 4th message in this thread)

Generally, after the tourney (saturday night) we hang out at the campground, around a fire (a bunch of us are staying in cabins close to the tournament place)

Races allowed: all officials, plus underworld, chaos pact and Slanns.

What to know as a first timer: douche bags are not welcome (other than me Wink

). If you come to have a nice time, you'll go back home with great souvenirs. the ambiance is generally really good, even though people are fouling each other Very Happy

Clan_Skaven - Aug 17, 2011 - 04:31 PM
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Near Finished Warpstone Token

Near Finished Trophy

All 13 Warpstone Tokens in Progress.

Chewblocka - Aug 17, 2011 - 09:14 PM
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Those trophies and tokens are lookin' pretty sweet dude. Looking forward to winning a few of them!

Clan_Skaven - Aug 19, 2011 - 05:13 AM
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Just trying to figure out space management for seating, who all is planning on attending?

Lizardcore - Aug 19, 2011 - 06:20 AM
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I guess Alex and I.

wapcaplets - Aug 19, 2011 - 08:50 AM
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I'll be there!

jrock56 - Aug 19, 2011 - 08:54 AM
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Hey Rod, it isn't looking good for me attending this year man. It seems no matter how many times I plan on coming there is always something preventing it! Seeing as I started coaching my son's football team this year he has one of his first games of the regular season on the Saturday of your tourney. I won't be able to change anything for that weekend so I won't be able to make it from the looks of things. If anything changes in there game schedule I'll let you know but I doubt that will happen. Good luck with everything and hope to see you at another tourney soon man,

Adam

Clan_Skaven - Aug 19, 2011 - 09:01 AM
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jrock56 wrote:

LOL!

Your kid better at least win!!!! Screw that He better score a TD!! Make that the game winning TD!!!

No worries bud, take care!

Glamdryn - Aug 19, 2011 - 10:42 AM
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Myself +1 for now

Daggers - Aug 19, 2011 - 08:15 PM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

Greg has posted some progress with trophies , looking great.

Trophies are looking awesome Rod. Tell Greg nice work as well.

natsirtdm - Aug 23, 2011 - 11:50 AM
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I am in.. anyone booking a cabin?

Taxal - Aug 23, 2011 - 01:57 PM
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Would love to make it, but it`s a weekend with my kids so it would be a no go for moi. Sucks too since the 25th is my b-day and what better way to spend a birthday weekend than with you crazy Bloodbowlers.
Will make it out one of these years.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 25, 2011 - 05:32 PM
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The 4 Clans of the Skaven have shown their interest in the Warpstone Cup. So much so that the 4 Divisions in the Warpstone Cup was named after them.
Clan Moulder, Eshin, Skyre & Pestilens. Each Clan boasts that a team from their Division will win the Warpstone Cup. To ensure this happens each clan has donated magic items to the teams represented in their division.

Each Clan has donated 5 types of items.

Clan Moulder :
1 ) Whip of Entanglement (Tentacles)
2 ) Pauldrons of Power (Juggernaut )
3 ) Bracers of Might (Strong Arm)
4 ) Belt of Stability (Stand Firm)
5 ) Gauntlets of Holding (Grab)

Clan Eshin :
1 ) Blade of the Nightrunner (Claw)
2 ) Cloak of Swiftness (Sprint)
3 ) Boots of the Assassin (Leap)
4 ) Ring of Anticipation (Jump Up)
5 ) Amulet of Evasion (Sidestep)

Clan Skyre :
1 ) Ring of Snatching (Big Hand)
2 ) Helm of Knowledge of the Warplock Engineer (Leader)
3 ) Warpstone Crystal Goggles (Accurate)
4) Headband of Concentration (Nerves of Steel)
5 ) Gloves of Discharging (Dump Off)

Clan Pestilens :
1 ) Harness of Nurglitch (Foul Appearance)
2 ) Rotted Bracers of Repulsion (Fend)
3 ) Bile of Madness (Frenzy)
4 ) Collar of Aggression (Dauntless)
5 ) Puss of the Foot of Nurglitch (Kick)

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After You Draw what Division Your in You will draw 2 of 5 numbered tokens (1-5) & depending on the Division You are in, You then will pick & keep 1 of the 2 Magic Items drawn, then place both numbers back in bag for next person. (For example lets say Your Wood Elf team is in Clan Pestilens Division & You draw 1 & 4 You will have the choice of the Harness of Nurglitch & the Collar of Aggression, you will keep one of those 2)

Since these are Magic Items they can be used by any player on any team (even the ones that are Mutations)

You decide what player will use it the start of each game. Should that player get Serious Injured , KO'd or Dead, after K'O rolls but before the next Drive starts You may give this Magic Item to another player on your team.

This Magic Item will replace Your 1st Skill roll before 1st game. So You will have 1 Magic Item & 6 Skills.

Glamdryn - Aug 26, 2011 - 07:52 AM
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Magic Items look great!

Love the trophies too. Really looking forward to this tourny.

wapcaplets - Aug 26, 2011 - 08:29 AM
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Great idea, Rod. Very theme-rich!

Lizardcore - Aug 28, 2011 - 06:33 AM
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Hi Rod,

Alex might not be able to make it this year.

Laurent

Clan_Skaven - Aug 29, 2011 - 02:58 PM
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glamdryn wrote:

Magic Items look great!

Love the trophies too. Really looking forward to this tourny.

Thank you very much, I look forward to meeting you in person & share a pint!

Clan_Skaven - Aug 29, 2011 - 03:01 PM
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Will be finishing up trophy's hopefully Thursday & starting on the two Dugouts for the 13th TD & 13 CAS scored. They are based on the 2 races from last year that were 1st. (Orc & Lizardmen)

natsirtdm - Sep 07, 2011 - 06:21 PM
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Is anyone going to warpstone planning to go to deathblow.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 07, 2011 - 10:26 PM
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The Unfinished Warpstone Cup

Clan_Skaven - Sep 07, 2011 - 10:29 PM
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1st, 2nd, 3rd, & Wooden Spoon

Clan_Skaven - Sep 07, 2011 - 10:33 PM
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Most CAS, Best Sport, Best Team, Most TD, Worst Sport, & Warpstone League Cup

Clan_Skaven - Sep 07, 2011 - 10:36 PM
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Unfortunately due to time restraints the 2 dugouts for the 13th TD & 13th CAS will not be done this year, but will be done next year, there will be some sort of prize for 13th TD & 13th CAS this year instead.

Taxal - Sep 08, 2011 - 10:42 AM
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Those trophies look totally kick A$$!!!!!!!

Great job.

Glamdryn - Sep 08, 2011 - 12:21 PM
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Wow they look amazing. Are you giving out the cup?

Clan_Skaven - Sep 08, 2011 - 12:35 PM
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glamdryn wrote:

Wow they look amazing. Are you giving out the cup?

No but once mounted on a wooden base, all the Champion names will be on plates on it.

1st place gets the gold skaven symble

Clan_Skaven - Sep 08, 2011 - 12:36 PM
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Thanks for the kind words, Greg & I appriciate it.

Lizardcore - Sep 08, 2011 - 02:00 PM
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jeeeeeeeeeeeeez I want some Very Happy

I'm also bringing something to thank you for all you're doing for this tourney Rod Wink

(no it's not cheese that tastes like your farts)

Glamdryn - Sep 12, 2011 - 12:39 PM
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So where is everyone staying?

Lizardcore - Sep 12, 2011 - 02:09 PM
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We're staying at some cabins.

contact me by pm to have more infos. we are in the process of booking them !

wapcaplets - Sep 16, 2011 - 12:43 PM
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The Hallowe'en-themed Underworld team I'm taking to Warpstone next weekend and will probably go 0-6 (they're an Underworld team, after all) but I at least hope to look good doing it! Here's some pics of the players, counters, and sideline/display figures:

This one was a little interesting. It's one of Gaspez Arts' Skaven-inspired figures. I really liked the look of it but that tail was worrying me. Even pinned, I could see it being easily bent or broken off. Fortunately, I had some magnets that were the precise circumference of the tail so I drilled into his rear end (goodnight, everybody), glued in a magnet, and glued another magnet to the bottom of the tail so now it just comes off for easy transporting.

Here's the rest of the Skaven which are from the usual GW Skavenblight Scramblers box set:

The Underworld Goblins are some figures by Reaper called "Pumpkin Horrors:"

The Warpstone TRoll is also by Reaper and is a solo model called "Rotpatch, Pumpkin Golem." It came holding a big scythe in its right arm. I cut it off and made some tendrils out of green stuff and wrapped them around a football. That's right... he's a ball carrier!

I made some custom re-roll, turn, and score counters out of the pumpkin sideline figures that Impact makes:

I inked up a small Zuzzy mat and a few display figures, as well. Also, These walls are from the GW boxed set and the sign is a Hallowe'en ornament that I bought from a Michael's craft store, re-painted, and glued on some model railroad letters:

Taxal - Sep 16, 2011 - 01:39 PM
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AMAZING!!! job Chris.

Lizardcore - Sep 16, 2011 - 03:52 PM
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wow, you set the bar very high, but CHALLENGE ACCEPTED !!!

see you soon bud' Wink

Spazzfist - Sep 17, 2011 - 07:37 AM
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Lizardcore wrote:

wow, you set the bar very high, but CHALLENGE ACCEPTED !!!

Puh-LEASE Laurent! The day you pick up a paint brush to paint your own miniatures is the day Rod trusts us to remember that he is the 2006 Spike! champion without reminders! Laughing

Chewblocka - Sep 17, 2011 - 01:55 PM
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Hey there kids. Looks like I may be the only one from Ottawa making the trek this time around. I'll be going through Coburg to meet up with Mr. Meers and we will be making our way down on the Friday night.

I was just hoping that someone might have space in their cabin for me to crash in. I will be more than happy to contribute to the pot for the rental, it is just that I do not currently have internet access to make arrangements (I'm currently on a friend's compy). So if anyone can spare some space, I would greatly appreciate it.

Cheers all, and I look forward to seeing everyone next weekend.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 17, 2011 - 04:11 PM
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If theres no room in cabin i have a 2nd spot here, 1st is spoken for, an air mattress would be good if you have one.

Lizardcore - Sep 18, 2011 - 05:11 PM
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I think mark H is counted in the cabin crew.

@Craig: c'mon, it's just to make Chris sweat Wink

Spazzfist - Sep 18, 2011 - 07:50 PM
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You want to make Chris sweat? Dude, whatever goes on in your cabin STAYS in your cabin!

natsirtdm - Sep 20, 2011 - 02:31 PM
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Have a wicked time this weekend guys.

flyingdingle - Sep 21, 2011 - 08:30 AM
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Hey guys,

Sorry to bone out, but I don't think i'm gonna make it this weekend. I've been trying to buy a house on a short sale for a year now and it just finally went through last week. I was hoping to have things settled down with this by now, but I have way to many things to do.

Anyway, Orctoberfest II is still on for October 8th and the location is moved to my new house. Hope to see some of you there!

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2011 - 12:42 AM
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Normally at this time I'd be in a panick about not having enough boards, but the numbers keep droping, so that issue should not be a problem. That being said still bring a board please, don't rely on your opponents to bring one.

see you guys if a couple of days, hoping to start 1st game approx 9am so try & be there for breakfast / registration for 8am or 8:30am.

If this is an issue for anyone tell me please.

Spazzfist - Sep 22, 2011 - 04:56 AM
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My team is painted, and ready to go! Woot! Now it's just a case of making a display base...

Lizardcore - Sep 22, 2011 - 05:55 AM
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@ rod : do you still need a laptop ? if yes, with what kind of software ?

btw, Alex is comming Wink

(I guess we'll be around 12)

btw, what is the address of the tournament ? Is it "the boat house"At portage and Maklem street (3807 Macklem Street, Niagara Falls)? just before the bridge on portage street ?

If I'm correct, Craig, Peter, Mark, Seth, Jennie, alex and I are staying here :

http://www.niagarakoa.com/

8625 Lundy's Lane, Niagara Falls, 15-20 min away from the bar.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2011 - 06:57 AM
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it would not hurt to bring laptop, but I think i'll be ok with just a calculator, so up to you really

http://www.yellowpages.ca/search/si/1/boathouse/Niagara%20Falls%2C%20ON?showDD=true

Lizardcore - Sep 22, 2011 - 08:29 AM
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ok, i'll bring my laptop Smile

I guess it's mostly for TD, Cas counts, so Excel should be enough. I'll try to get a tournament software just in case, but I'm not sure that would be usefull. what is your tie breaker ?

flyingdingle - Sep 22, 2011 - 09:51 AM
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Score is pretty easy/user friendly and it's free. I think there's a link in the NAF dloads section. If not, let me know and I can prolly send a copy if it's not to big.

Glamdryn - Sep 22, 2011 - 10:19 AM
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I know how to use score, its pretty awesome. Ill be using it for the Pub Bowl. If you have any questions Im sure I can help out.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2011 - 12:10 PM
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Any help is great, but the system I created, your 1st 3 games will be predetermined by divisional play, & your last 3 games are either vs the same tier as You (bottom players) or in the championship round (top 8 teams) your matches 4-5-6 are elimination brackets, so only thing i need calculations for is tie breakers for after round 3 for tied games to determine divisional placing.

Glamdryn - Sep 22, 2011 - 12:27 PM
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Two questions concerning the rule set:

1) Are we modifying team value after gaining skills a/o stat increases? Are we then calculating inducement amounts before every match?

2) Is it possible to lose a Warpstone Token after receiving it? Or do you have the token and can it be used once for each match after receiving it?

Thanks!

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2011 - 12:40 PM
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glamdryn wrote:

Your TV stays same all tourney no matter what upgrades you get. & the warpstone token is yours to keep. You can use it all tourney once per game. & its yours to keep after the tourney to use as a RR, or turn marker or whatever.

Lizardcore - Sep 22, 2011 - 03:07 PM
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Hey Sol, can you email it to me ?

lizardcore - at - gmail.com

Clan_Skaven - Sep 25, 2011 - 04:18 PM
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Thank you to all who attended it was a great weekend!

Thanks to the people that came from the great distances, Thomas, Jennie & Seth (USA). Mark H. (Ottawa).

Thank you Greg & Joe for being my 2 odd men out, sorry how it turned out.

Thank you to all those who returned from previous years & the new faces.

Sorry about if it was too hot in the room.

Any complaints/suggestions please tell me , it can only get better with your feedback.

I hope my new system was ok & that You all liked it.

Waiting for one NAF membership before results can be entered.

Here are the trophy winners.

1st: Alex with Norse
2nd: Chris P with Nurgle
3rd: Craig with High Elves
League Cup Champ: Chris E with Underworld
Most TD: Peter with Skaven
Most CAS: Thomas with Orc
Best Team: Chris E with Underworld
Best Sport: Mark H with Chaos Dwarf
Golden Soother: Corey with Undead
Wooden Spoon: Mark H with Chaos Dwarf

Lizardcore - Sep 25, 2011 - 04:55 PM
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For now I have only one comment: F*** YOU PETE Very Happy

Chewblocka - Sep 25, 2011 - 11:31 PM
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Thanks, Rod, for putting on the tourney. Even though I finished last, I had a great time, even with the militaristic stylings of the KOA. All of my games were fun and thanks to my opponents for helping make my decision easy for my World Cup team selection... NOT CHAOS DWARFS!!!

I was also happy to hear that my team earned a 2nd place nod for best team. There is something mystical about the giant hats, I do admit.

Also, a special thanks to all of my cabin mates for pitching in to make staying at the KOA bearable, and for putting up with my bad habits!

Looking forward to improving upon my results next year. Nowhere to go but up! Hope to see a bunch of you again at the Death Bowl.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 26, 2011 - 05:30 AM
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Final standings

1st: stimme (Alex: Norse)
2nd: Da5id (Chris P: Nurgle)
3rd: Spazzfist (Craig: High Elf)
4th: DarkOrk20 (Thomas: Orc)
5th: Peter_Meers (Pete: Skaven)
6th: Lizardcore (Laurant: Skaven)
7th: Talons (Rob P: Amazon)
8th: glamdryn (Seth: Undead)
9th: wapcaplets (Chris E:Underworld)
10th: Chops (Corey: Undead)
11th: McKandyKain * (Jennie: Orc)
12th: Zap_Rowsdower (Mark H: Chaos Dwarf)

* NAF name still to be submitted for approval

wapcaplets - Sep 26, 2011 - 08:36 AM
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Thanks for the great tournament, Rod, Joe, and Greg. I will do my best to get the videos uploaded to YouTube this week.

Rod: sent you a PM, as well. Need your advice on scoring for my tournament.

Lizardcore - Sep 26, 2011 - 03:42 PM
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Thanks all for a great week-end, which allowed me to evacuate a lot of pressure. Sorry for the french ranting, but at least you might have enriched your french vocabulary Very Happy

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Ok, a little feedback.

As far as i know people liked the format (overall, we didnt had to wait that long for the over times). Still, it might be good to have timers for the tables that are going into overtime.

Personally, I liked the magic item, and the fact that you could transfer them from a player to another.

For the skills, I think you should offer an alternative: the possibility, once, that two randomly selected players (D16 roll) are traded against one designated player. The skill roll remains random. Like this, you ensure that the player going for random skills still have an advantage, but you also allow he luckless coaches to have a playable roster.

Alternatively, you can implement the inducements (so everybody calculates his TV after getting the skills, and in some rare case (like Pete TV=1290, while others were at TV=1220) opponents will get a card or Blooddweiser babes).

Finally, for the warpstone token, I think that if you beef them they are going to be useless, except the fact that they look really cool Smile

. What you can do is to cap the maximal amount at 2 warpstones per tournament, and their use at 1 per half.

I still really like the modified kick-off table event, the modified extra-time, the location, and rod, greg and joe.

The only thing i didnt like was pete Smile

wapcaplets - Sep 26, 2011 - 10:03 PM
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It was great to see everyone again at a really fun tournament. I had a lot more fun playing Underworld than I thought I would and I was surprised at how well AV7 held up against everyone except Tom. For those interested I did a detailed write-up on my blog. Hopefully you can all come to BLINGTOOF'S GITBASH in November!

Warpstone Cup 2011 Blog Pos: http://www.engler.ca/blog/?p=876

DarkOrk20 - Sep 27, 2011 - 09:34 AM
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Nice blog. I didn't read every game though, just mine.

I'm not a fan of the warpstone tokens. I never got one, and I played against two people that had them and they were successfully used as rerolls. Which really worked against me. One of the players, had 2 of them and I think it made the difference between winning and losing. They did have counters to not work or have bad effects and even as rerolls required a "pro" roll. As my luck would have it they always worked and I got it in the end. For Rod, I guess I would base my decision on making changes on how the other teams faired against those tokens.

The team value difference was great. I was able to field a good orc team at 100TV. I used the dirty trick cards that Wapcaplets brought. They were great (for me). I think this format is good. I do kind of agree with Lizardcore on the running TV but I understand that it was for simplicity. This is a keeper in my opinion.

The 6 game format where the first few rounds is for positioning within your clan is different. Then the pressure afterwards is continuously winning. Going into OT on two games was nice to be able to do for a tournament. However, I got out of there on Saturday after 9:30pm and we didn't finish up until after 4pm on Sunday with only 2 games. While I enjoyed this I would make sure that everyone attending knows this in advance. A bonus to this is that you don't have to wait for all the games to finish to know who you are playing next. So you could start your next game as soon as your opponent was available. Keep this. I really liked it and didn't want to hang out with any of you guys afterwards anyway. (j/k) I was tired.

Overall, it was a fun tourney and I'm glad I went. Sorry your odd men out didn't get to play in the tourney. Maybe you could work it out where there doesn't have to be an even number of players in each clan. Its something to think about.

Game 5 was one of the most intensive games I have played in a while. Not getting any casualties (one near the end) really hurt and I think it could have been different if I had just a little more success. WOW.

Glamdryn - Sep 28, 2011 - 10:40 AM
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Jennie and I had a great time! Loved the format.

Thanks for having us.

Remember the Pub Bowl is coming up on October 8th and make sure you take a look at the Google Maps of North America for the player locator and Tournament/League Scene.

We are going to try and hit up some more Canadian tourneys in the near future. Get some ole' fashion rivalries going haha.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 30, 2011 - 07:13 PM
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Results entered, just need "the Button pushed" , thanks in advance, to the Ol Button Pusher!

Cheers!

Clan_Skaven - Oct 01, 2011 - 03:33 PM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

Results entered, just need "the Button pushed" , thanks in advance, to the Ol Button Pusher!

Cheers!

"Push any button but the RED button...." Laughing

But seriously, please just push the button, lol

DarkOrk20 - Oct 02, 2011 - 08:48 AM
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I don't know how much of a difference it makes but Wapcaplets and myself only had a TV of 100 not 110.

Clan_Skaven - Oct 02, 2011 - 02:29 PM
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DarkOrk20 wrote:

I don't know how much of a difference it makes but Wapcaplets and myself only had a TV of 100 not 110.

but with the 100k in inducements you are 110 so it equals out.

Lizardcore - Oct 03, 2011 - 08:07 AM
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lol, in one week end, I lost a lot of points with my skaven team, but my chaos dwarf team gained 1 rank Very Happy

wapcaplets - Dec 05, 2011 - 01:14 PM
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I finally got around to uploading the videos from the 2011 Warpstone Cup. Checkum out:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL95DA67E7DDAE8BBF

Clan_Skaven - Dec 17, 2011 - 05:43 PM
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Thought I'd show the group shot with the trophies ...