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Rules Questions - LRB 4.0 up for community proofreading ending March 18th

GalakStarscraper - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:05 AM
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Okay the newly redone LRB 4.0. Check it over for mistakes. If you find errors, post them here. I'll accumulate all of them on that Friday. Ship them off to Josh and after Josh finishes the final edits it will go to JJ to be published to the BloodBowl.com site.

So you have until the 18th to get it squeaky ... post replies here ... do NOT start another thread as I'll only be looking here.

Also ... this is about typos ... we aren't going to include any last minute rule changes so don't ask.

Thanks for any help anyone gives.

Galak

http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.pdf
Gothmog - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:25 AM
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Page 25, the Big Guys section. Minotaur is listed twice. Once in it's own slot and then again replacing Ogres.

Pg.53: Team Lists. The Khemri, the mummies stats look ... wrong, unles I'm missing something.
Melifaxis - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:46 AM
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On Page 8 it get's a bit redundant.

"(this counts as using his re-roll for the turn)" and "In addition, if a coach is correctly called for illegal procedure, this counts as use of a team re-roll for the turn."

Not really a typo but figured I would point it out...

I'll keep going....
Melifaxis - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:54 AM
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p. 43 That Boy's Got Talent. You should clarify if it can be a player above the positional maximum...i.e. a limit of 4 blitzers...it does say it can take them to a 17th player, but I can see this question coming up...
Melifaxis - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:56 AM
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p 43 IRON MAN...typo...should say "do not roll for Injury" it currently says "do not roll of Injury"
Melifaxis - Mar 09, 2005 - 10:58 AM
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Ok, that's all I've got. Thanks for all the hard work guys Very Happy
GalakStarscraper - Mar 09, 2005 - 11:10 AM
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I'll create a site to track the found errors so far. But thanks for the help guys. There are some major bugs in the team lists. Like the Orc, Amazon, and Human position limits ... cut and paste errors as this thing was completely redone from scratch by Josh Blachette (thanks Josh) ... as a result ... I thought the only way we could catch all the errors that this would cause would be to give everyone on 5 different forums notice that we'd have a 10 day proofreading window.

I love the FUMBBL posts already ... instead of proofreading ... half of them are whining about the rules ... I love that site.

Galak
Melifaxis - Mar 09, 2005 - 11:18 AM
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Ah, I was only reviewing the red. I'll take a peek at the rest of it too.
fe2mike - Mar 09, 2005 - 02:58 PM
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As you might be able to tell my morning has been pretty slow!

Pg 2 of 65 [Aging results table ???41] needs more [???.] to line up with the rest of the page #s

Pg 4 of 65 top left corner 3rd line needs a space [players(the]
should be [players (the]

Pg 4 of 65 2nd paragraph line 3 punctuation needs moved [soon be flowing red !It]
should be [soon be flowing red! It]

Pg 4 of 65 right column the 2 pictures Scatter & throw-in need switched in order to correspond with the
paragraphs above them

Pg 8 of 65 right side turnovers last paragraph may want to include another exception [All active team stunned players may roll over if they were stunned at the start of this turn.]

Pg 10 of 65 under blocks right side, under strength 3rd paragraph, remove the word [the]
from [If the one player] to look like [If one player]

Pg 12 of 65 right side substitutes last sentence may want to also include [that you can add reserves at any kick-off (that will include overtime or popped ball like effects) not just touchdowns or after half time]

Pg 14 of 65 Agility tables for passing and catching the d6 roll required part of the table is not lined up right

Pg 14 of 65 2nd and 3rd paragraphs of catching the football the last sentence or two of paragraph 2 is really messed up along with the start of paragraph 3

Will continue later
Emberbreeze - Mar 09, 2005 - 03:20 PM
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out of date FAQ

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Q: Do I have to field 11 players (or my entire team if I have less than 11 available)?
A: No. The only restriction is that 3 players must be placed on the Line of Scrimmage. So you may set up 3-11 players at a kick-off.

fe2mike - Mar 09, 2005 - 05:55 PM
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Pg 16 of 65 left side under scoring touchdowns, Is that last sentence right? If I score during either teams turn I'm supposed to move my turn marker, I thought that was only while scoring in an oppenents turn.

Pg 17 of 65 left side buying players [(see pages 51-55] should be [(see pages 50 -56)] ALSO last sentence doesn't fini....... Wink
Gertwise - Mar 09, 2005 - 06:38 PM
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pg 55

Count Luthor should be allowed to play for Necro teams also.
abator - Mar 10, 2005 - 08:06 AM
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      GalakStarscraper wrote:
I'll create a site to track the found errors so far. But thanks for the help guys. There are some major bugs in the team lists. Like the Orc, Amazon, and Human position limits ... cut and paste errors as this thing was completely redone from scratch by Josh Blachette (thanks Josh) ... as a result ... I thought the only way we could catch all the errors that this would cause would be to give everyone on 5 different forums notice that we'd have a 10 day proofreading window.

I love the FUMBBL posts already ... instead of proofreading ... half of them are whining about the rules ... I love that site.

Galak


I noticed that as well. Sigh
GalakStarscraper - Mar 10, 2005 - 11:15 AM
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      fe2mike wrote:
Pg 16 of 65 left side under scoring touchdowns, Is that last sentence right? If I score during either teams turn I'm supposed to move my turn marker, I thought that was only while scoring in an oppenents turn.
It says SCORE marker not TURN marker.

Galak
fe2mike - Mar 10, 2005 - 11:54 AM
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      GalakStarscraper wrote:
      fe2mike wrote:
Pg 16 of 65 left side under scoring touchdowns, Is that last sentence right? If I score during either teams turn I'm supposed to move my turn marker, I thought that was only while scoring in an oppenents turn.
It says SCORE marker not TURN marker.

Galak


Oops sorry bout that Embarassed
I aslo have noticed that alot of the agility tables inside the slow motion replays are messed up, one was missing some + 's, a couple had two results as 4+ , a couple had the wrong #s highlighted, and the TTM and landing ones said Interception.

Someone else will need to take over, headed to the Three Kingdoms Challenge and hangin out in FLA for the next week, and probably won't be able to check the rest until after I get back. However I would be up for it Very Happy
Tojurub - Mar 11, 2005 - 12:53 AM
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I found a BIG ONE...not a typo, but a whole sentence which is completely wrong!!!!

pg 26: Big Guys are not allowed to use Leader and Trophy re-rolls (BBRC ruling 04)

but in the Q&A section...the answer for question #8 is YES, they can use them Shocked


Same goes for the first question on page 2 of Q&A about if you have to place 11 player on the field.


...and the list of turnovers in the Q&A section, e.g. turnover by IP, 4min rule

...according to the Q&A the Big-Guys can take General traits
Musta_Surma - Mar 11, 2005 - 02:06 AM
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      Gothmog wrote:
Page 25, the Big Guys section. Minotaur is listed twice. Once in it's own slot and then again replacing Ogres.

Pg.53: Team Lists. The Khemri, the mummies stats look ... wrong, unles I'm missing something.


Some of the stats where Minotaur has replaced Ogre are correct, like AV.

Is it so that Amazon can not get a big guy to play for them?
GalakStarscraper - Mar 14, 2005 - 08:21 PM
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A new version on the Draft LRB 4.0 has been posted.

http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.pdf

This fixes almost all the typos and clarification listed on NAF, FUMBBL, TBB, and HR forums.

Give it a look over, but it should be almost read to send to Jervis for posting to Bloobowl.com

Here are the few that have not yet been fixed:

Page 10, Slow Motion replay Dodge table. Is missing the + symbols on the 6, 5, and 4.

Page 18, Move the sentence:
"Each Star Player may be hired once per team. It is possible (though unlikely) for both teams
to hire the same Star Player, If this happens then neither may use him and he keeps both sets
of hiring fees!"
in front of the red section about "A Vampire Team can hire Count Luthor"

Page 28, Can we decrease the indent on the two options for the apothecary to just a couple spaces
instead of 1/2 inch indent on each of these?

Page 47, 2nd paragraph, 1st column. "The two runners-up may play a match to decide 3rd and 4th position if they wish."
The 3rd and 4th are in different formats.

Page 49. The word Conference after NFC and AFC is one word and needs to be on one line.
The spacing looks really off with it spreadout.
Sputnik - Mar 15, 2005 - 08:18 AM
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I don't know how relevant this is, but on page 6, under 'plastic range ruler', the new version still refers to the "0" being placed over the head of the passing player. I thought that you might want to change this paasage to refer to the center of the square and not the head, as announced elsewhere.

Sputnik
Melifaxis - Mar 15, 2005 - 01:58 PM
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Page 8 under Player Actions, Block: Do you want to say "unless they have the Jump Up skill?" or does this fall under Jervis wanting there to be a basic rules section? If so and the basic rules are orc and human starting rosters only, then it's not needed.

Page 12 under Dead! do you want to add "or Nurgle"...again if this is a basic ruleset thing where only orcs and humans play then its ok, but Undead are mentioned there...

Page 14 under Did You Know... after "the only ball the Ratz have" there should be a ";" Also, "Halflings" and "Khornes" should be "Halfling's" and "Khorne's"

Q&A..."Q: What do I do if I roll the same player twice for random player selection during a pitch invasion?" This question and answer should be deleted as a result of the change to pitch invasion
GalakStarscraper - Mar 17, 2005 - 08:15 PM
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Josh (Abator) just mailed me the 3rd revision of the Draft LRB 4.0, and I've posted it to the website in pure PDF and ZIP form this time.

http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.pdf
http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.zip

Here are the changes that Ravage just sent commented on tonight that have not been fixed yet (ie we know we need to fix these already):
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Page 2 Opening 2nd line: "For those of you are familiar with..." should be
"For those of you who are familiar with..."

Page 12 change the last sentence in the Dead! entry on the Casualty table to read:
The player won't be playing Blood Bowl any more unless he is raised to join another team!

Page 17 .. change this at bottom of 1st column ... this is what it says now:
"The first step in actually creating the team is to study the team lists (see pages 50 to 56)
and decide not include Human players because these players come from a different team list. which
you want to use. All of the players in your team must be from the same team list. So, for example,
a High Elf team may not include Human players because these players come from a different team list."
You need to change it to this:
"The first step in actually creating the team is to study the team lists (see pages 50 to 56)
and decide which you want to use. All of the players in your team must be from the same team list.
So, for example, a High Elf team may not include Human players because these players come from a
different team list."

Page 18 ... middle of last paragraph left column. There are two periods after:
(see the rules for Freebooters later)..
delete one of the periods.

Page 18 .. top of right column change:
"There are four Star Player cards included in the box, more Star Players can be found on
the back cover of this book."
TO
"There are four Star Player cards included in the box, more Star Players can be found on
pages 57 and 58 of this book."

Page 19 ... change Injury Time to read:
"The referee waits to allow for injured players and other debris to be cleared from the field.
If the receiving team's turn marker is on turn 4 or earlier, the game is held up so both teams
turn markers are moved one space forward along the Turn track. If it is turn 5 through 8, the
referee adjusts the clock to give the teams time to finish so both teams turn markers are moved
one space back."

Page 19 ... change first sentence of Perfect Defence to:
"The kicking team???s coach may reorganize his players ??? in other words he can set them up again
into another legal defence."

Page 19 ... change last sentence of Pitch Invasion to read:
"If a roll is 6 or more after modification then the player is Stunned."

Page 21 ... Did you know...
There should be a comma in "The High Elf team, the Dragon Princes,"

Page 22 ... Slow Motion Replay.
Is there anyway to delete the graph line after INTERCEPTION MODIFIERS so that you don't have a blank box.
If this is way difficult Josh don't sweat it.

Page 22 ... Slow Motion Replay.
Say "Per emeny tackle zone on" instead of "Per enemy tackle zone on"

Page 25 ... Delete this paragraph as it a repeat of the paragraph above it:
"Although Big Guys do occasionally play in all Big Guy teams, they are far more frequently
seen as members of other teams. It is rare for Goblin teams to take the field without a Troll
or two on the roster, for example, and there are many Chaos teams that include Minotaurs in
their ranks. Most ubiquitous of all are Ogre players, who have been know in their time to play
for just about every Blood Bowl team in the Old World."

Page 25 ... Title Cost MV ST AG AV for Beast of Nurgle need moved to top of column 2.

Page 26 ... Really Stupid red section change "voluntarily move" to "move voluntarily"

Page 26 ... Really Stupid change: "The player loses his tackle zone and may not catch the ball,"
to
"The player loses his tackle zone and may not catch or pass the ball,"

Page 27 ... left column 2nd paragraph, last sentence ... 2nd to last line should be:
"Blood Bowl, not a spell casting contest, so"
Note the comma after Blood Bowl

Page 27 ... Casting Spells 2nd sentence should be changed to:
"The Wizard may cast one of the three spells detailed on this page."

Page 27 ... Last part of Casting Spells paragraph should be changed to:
"after the Turn marker has been moved but before any players perform an action."
The ' in player's needs deleted.

Page 27 ... change 1st sentence of 2nd paragraph of Fireball Spell to:
"Make an Armour roll for any player that is knocked over as if they had been knocked over by
an opponent with the Mighty Blow skill.

Page 28 ... change last sentence of Necromancers section to:
"Liche Priests can argue the call with the referee and can still use his magical powers for the
team if ejected."

Page 29 ... middle of first paragraph change
"None the less, the use of" to:
"Nonetheless, the use of"

Page 34 ... Diving Tackle middle of paragraph change:
"then only one of the opposing player may make a diving tackle."
to
"then only one of the opposing players may make a diving tackle."
Correction is that players should have an s to make it plural

Page 35 ... Dodge skill last sentence should say in the middle:
"skill affects the results rolled on the Block dice, as explained in the"
The change is to change Block D6 to Block dice.

Page 35 ... Easily Confused, middle of paragraph change:
"In which case roll D6 again" to
"In which case roll a D6 again"
change is to add an a in the line

Page 36 ... Piling On change the end of the 2nd to last sentence to:
"then he must have followed up the block in order to use this skill."

Page 36 ... change 3rd sentence of Pro from:
"Once per team turn, a Pro is allowed to re-roll any one D6 roll he has made."
to:
"Once per team turn, a Pro is allowed to re-roll any one dice roll he has made."

Page 40 ... this sentence at the bottom of the first column midparagraph should be in red.
"If no remaining new skills are available for this player to take than the player may ignore the result
and treat the result as if doubles had been rolled instead."

Page 48 ... Chaos Cup Winning Table .. need a comma after Nurgle

Page 57 ... cannot see page number

Aramil - Mar 18, 2005 - 03:58 AM
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Great work, guys, this is going to be a nearly to perfection LRB! Very Happy
Graf_Arnhelm - Mar 18, 2005 - 04:29 AM
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Just be extra-careful for the front page: nothing worse than having a crisp, error-free content if there are some misprints on the cover!
GalakStarscraper - Mar 18, 2005 - 06:47 AM
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      Graf_Arnhelm wrote:
Just be extra-careful for the front page: nothing worse than having a crisp, error-free content if there are some misprints on the cover!


If you find any ... please let me know. We are entering the final days of changes before it gets sent to JJ.

Galak
Melifaxis - Mar 18, 2005 - 08:26 AM
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Add a page promoting the NAF to the LRB please Very Happy

You can put something like this:

The NAF is an international association of players dedicated to Blood Bowl ??? Games Workshop???s game of fantasy football. The NAF???s goal is to act as a central resource for Blood Bowl coaches the world over ??? offering news, contacts, discussion, sanctioned tournaments, and international player rankings. Whether you???re planning to run your own tournament, looking for a league, or just wanting to catch up on the latest from the world of Blood Bowl, NAF HQ aims to provide everything you???ll need.

Sign up now and get a set of official NAF blocking dice (Rumor has it that they are luckier than normal blocking dice, but officials can neither confirm nor deny this)! Many Blood Bowl tournaments are NAF sanctioned, which means that any matches you play against another NAF member will count towards your overall ranking. It is worth noting that matches against non-NAF members do not count towards your ranking as there is no way of judging the quality of an ???unknown??? opponent.

NAF membership is $10 per year.

You may sign up now by visiting www.bloodbowl.net
Tojurub - Mar 18, 2005 - 08:45 AM
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yeah...and put the NAF logo on the back cover...they won't notice Wink
Graf_Arnhelm - Mar 18, 2005 - 09:16 AM
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      GalakStarscraper wrote:
      Graf_Arnhelm wrote:
Just be extra-careful for the front page: nothing worse than having a crisp, error-free content if there are some misprints on the cover!


If you find any ... please let me know. We are entering the final days of changes before it gets sent to JJ.

Galak


Seems to be ok Wink
GalakStarscraper - Mar 18, 2005 - 01:04 PM
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      Melifaxis wrote:
Add a page promoting the NAF to the LRB please Very Happy


Mel after seriously considering this and talking to some folks ... it doesn't appear that GW legal depart would be too thrilled with the official rulebook endorsing another site. JJ is okay with it ... but the lawyers are quesy ... sorry mate.

Galak
Melifaxis - Mar 18, 2005 - 01:27 PM
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Thanks for trying! It was definitely worth a shot.
Darkson - Mar 18, 2005 - 02:20 PM
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Lawyers should be shot. Wink
GalakStarscraper - Mar 22, 2005 - 03:25 PM
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Josh (Abator) just mailed me the 4rd revision of the Draft LRB 4.0, and I've posted it to the website in pure PDF and ZIP form this time.

http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.pdf
http://www.blood-bowl.net/LRBDRAFT/DRAFT_LRB4.0.zip

Here are the only changes that I found that Josh still needs to fix ... but I think we are really close to being done.
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Page 40 ... Did you know currently says:
"That star player for the Chaos All-Stars, Duke Luthor Von Hawkfire is currently"
change to:
"That star player for the Chaos All-Stars, Duke Luthor Von Hawkfire, is currently"
Correction add "," after Hawkfire

Page 62, 3rd Q&A answer. Says at end. "Note, that a fumble, even" ... should be:
"Note that a fumble even"
Correction ... no comma

GalakStarscraper - Mar 29, 2005 - 01:04 PM
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Thanks for everyone who assisted. The final proofread version was sent to Fanatic this morning. It should hopefully be up on bloodbowl.com by the end of the week.

Galak
Tojurub - Mar 30, 2005 - 12:25 AM
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Does that include the re-changed Get-the-Ref ruling, which Ian was talking about over in TBB???
Doubleskulls - Mar 30, 2005 - 01:53 AM
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I believe so.
GalakStarscraper - Mar 30, 2005 - 08:28 AM
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      Tojurub wrote:
Does that include the re-changed Get-the-Ref ruling, which Ian was talking about over in TBB???


Yes ... I get the same memoes that Ian does ... Laughing

Galak
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