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North America - CANADIAN SPIKE? - AGAIN?

Bikerbob - Aug 31, 2005 - 12:36 PM
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Ok, people, GW have got back to us here in the TBBF and have said not having anyone currently "IN" with the BLOOD BOWL community if we would like to still have a SPIKE this calendar year.

IF you are interested in attending a SPIKE tournament, in Mississauga Ontario Canada ... please post to this thread.

I have suggested that at this point the only time that would work for most would be MID November.

This would give us and them time to promote the event. OCT is DEATHBOWL.. and everyone who is someone should be there!!! Worship

I need feedback as to this... date and current interest.

Yes.. GW dropped the ball, they turned it over and they are asking for a re-roll... do we give it to them??

James
(TBBF)

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 31, 2005 - 01:30 PM
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a tourney is better than no tourney.....hope you get the interest.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 31, 2005 - 02:26 PM
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I wish you luck James if you are picking up the torch for this, but for my part Death Bowl (and possibly the Canadian Open) will do it for me. You also have Spazz's event....so unless you guys are jonsing for another tourney...I would let GW sleep in the bed they made. Their prize support wasn't anything great, so I am wondering what $60.00 went towards beside the coin and T-Shirt. I think we just financed the cost of having that cool legacy trophy that Broken Ben won. Smile

Just my thoughts. -Rob

P.S. The only counter-point to that babble is...if they don't get support for a quick patch-work tourney, might they drop it altogether from their future plans?

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 31, 2005 - 03:47 PM
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That has always been the double edged sword to withdrawing support - it supports, wrongly in my mind, GW's own lack of commitment. I truly don't like having the Spike in the same month as the Chaos Cup but it appears that's the only way it happens this year....

(Somebody give 'em a calendar....)

Clan_Skaven - Aug 31, 2005 - 08:43 PM
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If I can afford it I'll go, but $$$ is tight right now & my commitment will always be to the Death-Bowl over the SPIKE! Hands down, no contest....

Rod.

Spazzfist - Aug 31, 2005 - 09:08 PM
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Yeah, the big issue, as OMM says is the Chaos Cup is scheduled for the week before. Not a good plan (for attendance) to hold another major right after.

I would say let it go.

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 31, 2005 - 09:27 PM
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I would say do it just for continuity of history......

If only 20 people show, it's better than nothing.

Xtreme - Aug 31, 2005 - 09:37 PM
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I thought Ken already won the Spike this year? Wink

Darkson - Aug 31, 2005 - 10:46 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

so I am wondering what $60.00 went towards beside the coin and T-Shirt.

Think yourself lucky - that's only £28.

For the Bloodbowl, we pay £40 (or was it £50?) and only get a coin.

Spike is on my "When I win the Lottery" list, so I'd like to see it happen, even if only a small tourney, just for continuity.

Good luck with getting the support.

Wolfhowl - Sep 01, 2005 - 05:02 AM
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I would love to have the Spike this year, since it is located so close to where I live.

BRING IT BACK!!!!!!

CyberHare - Sep 01, 2005 - 04:55 PM
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Thanks for the praise James Smile

My two cents on the subject. The Chaos Cup is well established in November. The Death Bowl is cemented into October Laughing

December and January are just bad months for tournaments. February is the Canadian open. Q'ermit is in March. So... where does that leave us. Not with many good options. I would run the event this year but as a smaller local event. I'd suggest the last weekend in November or the first weekend in December. Run the event just to say that it was run this year, even if it's a small one day event. After that I'd start looking for a good date next year. Your best bet, early May. There's a void there and it's about the only time of year you'll find that in North America. Yes it'll be at the same time as the Blood Bowl but really they aren't fighting for the same coaches. That still leaves the problem of three tournaments in Toronto in the early year. That'll be up to you guy's in TO to work out though.

GalakStarscraper - Sep 01, 2005 - 05:09 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

Thanks for the praise James Smile

My two cents on the subject. The Chaos Cup is well established in November. The Death Bowl is cemented into October Laughing

I agree with everything Brian said here. My only add on would be to explain to GW that this might be a real low turnout and that that should not be an indication of lack of interest but of the tournament being so close to two of the larger North American tournaments that folks had already planned on attending. My fear would be that running this event and getting 12 people to show up would make GW-Canada kill it off completely.

As for 2006 ... As long as it isn't a one day event at Games Day costing BB players 100 CDN to get in the door and THEN extra to play in the tournament ... that's fine.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Sep 01, 2005 - 05:13 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Their prize support wasn't anything great, so I am wondering what $60.00 went towards beside the coin and T-Shirt.

FYI ... it did NOT go towards the coin. Specialist Games in the UK picks up the cost of the coins.

Galak

Spazzfist - Sep 01, 2005 - 05:43 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

Q'ermit is in March.

Q'ermitt was in March, next year it will be in the summer so that it does not conflict with my anniversary! Embarassed

GalakStarscraper - Sep 01, 2005 - 07:11 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

CyberHare wrote:

Q'ermit is in March.

Q'ermitt was in March, next year it will be in the summer so that it does not conflict with my anniversary! Embarassed

If the Q'ermitt is moving ... sounds like mid to late March or early April would be perfect as long as they avoid Easter weekend.

Galak

Paul - Sep 01, 2005 - 11:16 PM
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I'm with Lagerbottom on the issue, I'd love to give GW a big *-U but I know if we all don't show up, then theres no chance that they run it next year.

Because I'm in toronto, I'll go to the Spike, just cause I like playing and the tourneys I've been in are alot of fun. I can't wait for the Deathbowl, and I'd be nice to have another big event before the year is out.

But yea, they'll definatly have to change it next year to get a better turn out. sometime in April-May would probably be the best, that gives you a few months after the Canadian Open and a few months before the Q'ermitts new date. Then a few months later we'd have the Death Bowl and hopefully have everything evenly spaced out throughout the year.

Bikerbob - Sep 02, 2005 - 07:45 AM
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Yes I have suggested last weekend in November.

Idea

I have also suggested that GW get with NAF and together we make sure we have the BIG Majors spread out.. so that this does not happen. Establish at least the MONTH they will happen and then everyone can plan around them.

Also Galak, unfortunatly, they do want to run it as a one day event at Games Day.. as far as the $100 + fee for BB.. I told them.. do that.. you might as well kiss it off. Skull

I suggested that BB is unique.. its not 40K not Fantasy and that promoting through a games day is not helping those that have commited to it already.
If they wanted a promotions day.. run a smaller tourny at a conflict.

GalakStarscraper wrote:

Clan_Skaven - Sep 02, 2005 - 02:58 PM
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I went to a Gamesday BB tourney in 2003, & it was horrendous (did I spell that right?) There was no "Odd Man Out" so in the 2nd round when there was a a person who dropped out, a buddy of mine had to sit out. Just little considerations like that are crucial to running a successfull tourney, GW does not really care about BB, so they obviously do not care about us as a BB comunity (well except our wallet.) , so if the SPIKE is planned to be at a GW Games Day, then thats just as good as there not going to be a SPIKE at all. (If they want a small BB tourney at the Games Day, then fine... but not one of the Majors!)

BB at a Gamesday is a bad idea & I will not go. (nothing wrong with a one day event for a small BB tourney, but please no SPIKE! at a Games Day).

Rod.

(& I'm not drunk,..............................

..............yet)