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Rules Questions - Secret Weapons Bombs?
GColeman76 - May 28, 2003 - 03:49 AM
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I know that secret weapon rules are only experimental but.......When a bomb is thrown when can a turnover occur?
If it is not accurate or is it only when someone from your team gets knocked over by the bomb by any means?
I hope that is clear??!!!??!!***@@@!!!???
Please clarify.
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Redfang - May 28, 2003 - 03:52 AM
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If it is inaccurate: NO
If the knocked over player was holding the ball: YES
If the knocked over player was not holding the ball: I don't know for sure (don't have time to look it up) but I think not
R
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 04:38 AM
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Redfang wrote:
If it is inaccurate: NO
True, a bomb is not the ball
Redfang wrote:
If the knocked over player was holding the ball: YES
Absolutely!!
Redfang wrote:
If the knocked over player was not holding the ball: I don't know for sure (don't have time to look it up) but I think not
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
Cheers
Rob
Redfang - May 28, 2003 - 06:15 AM
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Oh, OK, it's a TO after all then
Thanks Rob,
R
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 07:18 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
But it is not a turnover if a thrown goblin/halfling fails his landing but he wasn't holding the ball...
I just love rule loopholes ![Sad](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 07:27 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
Gattolardo wrote:
Actually it is a turnover:
LRB page 8, things that cause a TO, case 2:
A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over.
But it is not a turnover if a thrown goblin/halfling fails his landing but he wasn't holding the ball...
I just love rule loopholes
![Sad](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_sad.gif)
True
but then, the TTM rules clearly states that a bad landing is NOT A TURNOVER unless the little lad was the ball carrier, much like the new Off for a Bite rule says that an injuried thrall is not a TO unless he was the ball carrier.
So, unless the specified rule clearly says otherwise, any player knocked over is a TO.
Cheers
Rob
jmccubbin - May 28, 2003 - 07:44 AM
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I was sure the Bomb rules state that it is not a turnover if you bomb one of your own players provided they do not have the ball. I don't have the LRB with me right now, but I am almost positive it gives that rule exception under the LRB bomb rules.
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 08:35 AM
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jmccubbin wrote:
I was sure the Bomb rules state that it is not a turnover if you bomb one of your own players provided they do not have the ball. I don't have the LRB with me right now, but I am almost positive it gives that rule exception under the LRB bomb rules.
I just checked the Bomb description and the general Secret Weapons text, and I did'nt find any mention of an exception to the TO rules.
Maybe it was in a older version...
Cheers
Rob
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 08:54 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
I just checked the Bomb description and the general Secret Weapons text, and I did'nt find any mention of an exception to the TO rules.
Yeah, there is no mention of it not saying that it isn't a TO if it knocks down one of your players...so I'd say it would be a TO if it did happen.
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 09:15 AM
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Agentrock wrote:
Yeah, there is no mention of it not saying that it isn't a TO if it knocks down one of your players...so I'd say it would be a TO if it did happen.
...was that a triple negative? *holding aching head*
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Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 09:20 AM
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Well, bluntly said:
Unless some rule CLEARLY SAYS IT DOESN'T (like TTM and OFAB) a knocked over player from the moving team is ALWAYS a TO.
Aspirin Rob
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:29 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
...was that a triple negative? *holding aching head*
Was it really...yeah, I guess it was! So what is the grammer rule for that?? ![Embarassed](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:30 AM
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Gattolardo wrote:
Unless some rule CLEARLY SAYS IT DOESN'T (like TTM and OFAB) a knocked over player from the moving team is ALWAYS a TO.
Yep...that's how we'd rule it in our league!
skummy - May 28, 2003 - 09:38 AM
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Agentrock wrote:
Was it really...yeah, I guess it was! So what is the grammer rule for that??
![Embarassed](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_redface.gif)
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head. ![Smile](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
Agentrock - May 28, 2003 - 09:52 AM
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Dammit...not again!
mikeyc222 - May 28, 2003 - 10:33 AM
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skummy wrote:
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head.
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mine just threw chalk board erasers at me
Gattolardo - May 28, 2003 - 11:57 AM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
skummy wrote:
I think it means your 7th grade English teacher is allowed to beat you about the head.
![Smile](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_smile.gif)
mine just threw chalk board erasers at me
Lucky man, mine just threw blocks at me....
never rolled a skull either........ ![Crying or Very sad](modules/PNphpBB2/images/smiles/icon_cry.gif)