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Pipey - Dec 26, 2011 - 11:37 AM
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Hi everyone

2012 rules pack and all details here:
http://thenaf.net/downloads/NAF_Champ_2012.pdf

To secure your place:
-send Â£40 via paypal to thenafchampionship@gmail.com
-include your name, NAF name and email address
-tickets can be bought as above from January 14th 2012

Also see instructions in the rulespack re roster pre-submission prior to the tournament date. Pre-registration is now open, as of 2nd April 2012.

Clarification on use of miniatures (from Warhammer World Manager):
Regarding the non-GW model question- basically, if it is a citadel miniature, weâ€™re ok with it! So if theyâ€™re old, even ancient citadel miniatures from previous editions, thatâ€™s good with us (even great â€“ we love seeing old toys!). If itâ€™s a conversion of a citadel miniature, thatâ€™s all good, so long as all components used are either citadel or completely scratch-sculpted with greenstuff.

Thanks
Brendan

Manuel - Dec 28, 2011 - 07:46 AM
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Hi there!
I'm new here in the NAF, but not in the hobby, and I'm very interested on these tournament. I've got a question about the rules you've posted here. It's about the "only GW miniatures".

I have a GW human team from the 3rd edition box and, as there where only 2 blitzers, I bought on ebay another 2 linemen. I did some transformations on them, with parts of other GW miniatures (dark eldars and horses, I think). So, everything is GW, and my linemens look more like real blitzer than linemens. But again, will this be a problem?

Thanks,

Manuel.

Darkson - Dec 28, 2011 - 08:37 AM
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No, as long as the models don't contain parts from other companies, conversions are fine.

Pipey - Dec 28, 2011 - 09:36 AM
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That is correct, I can confirm. Cheers Darkson.

I think it's pretty clear in the rulespack.

Thanks
Brendan

Pipey - Dec 30, 2011 - 02:23 AM
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Clarification added in title post re use of miniatures.

Grumbledook - Jan 05, 2012 - 04:51 AM
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Ah I was hoping to have all skills up front or three per day rather than one per game. Maybe next year ;]

Combined with the lack of non GW minis I'll have to have a rethink on what race. Looking forward to it regardless, see you all there!

Pipey - Jan 06, 2012 - 05:28 AM
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The idea behind the very straightforward (even unimaginative!) ruleset is to keep things simple for newer players or those for whom the NAF Championship is the only tournament of the year.

Also I think there's merit in providing a consistent product year on year. The World Cup, Wimbledon etc. etc. don't change their format or rules every year either Wink

There's a veritable buffet of unusual tournaments out there across the UK and elsewhere, which is great. But we're hoping the simplicity of the NAF Championship will be a selling point!

(Posting here as much in response to some other comments on TFF as to Grumbledook's post.)

Glowworm - Jan 06, 2012 - 10:40 AM
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Pippy wrote:

(Posting here as much in response to some other comments on TFF as to Grumbledook's post.)

thanks for that Wink

Pipey - Jan 06, 2012 - 11:36 AM
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No probs Simon! Smile

Grumbledook - Jan 07, 2012 - 05:39 AM
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all skills every game is simpler than one per game imo

the world cup has changed format, sure not every year but that's not what I was asking for and there is precedent for change as you increased the money teams have to buy with ;]

it might also make sense to put a link to the rules etc on the tournament listing page too http://thenaf.net/index.php?module=NAF&type=tournaments&func=view&id=1457 that's the first place I'd go to look for any tournament rules and they aren't there yet

Pipey - Jan 09, 2012 - 12:42 AM
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Cheers Grum, will do.

Pipey - Jan 12, 2012 - 03:05 AM
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Quick heads up: tickets are on sale the day after tomorrow. Jan 14th 0900.

The team are currently working on this year's unique giveaway. Which is shaping up to be as good if not better than last year's commemorative coin.

Spaces are limited so don't delay.

See the rules pack above for all details Smile

Beppe - Jan 15, 2012 - 01:50 AM
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How many tickets can a single person buy?

Pipey - Jan 15, 2012 - 03:12 AM
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Last year we said 10 max, but if you need to buy more PM me and we can arrange something.

Sounds promising Wink

Beppe - Jan 15, 2012 - 05:49 AM
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Yeah, I think that this time you'll see more Italians than last year... Wink

Pipey - Jan 16, 2012 - 03:33 AM
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Beppe wrote:

Yeah, I think that this time you'll see more Italians than last year... Wink

Excellent news!

Thanks to everyone who bought their tickets over the weekend. Looks like it's going to be another VERY good turnout Smile

Regarding e-tickets from the NAF. It may be several weeks before they're sent out as we'll send in batches.

Anything else that's unclear, email: thenafchampionship@gmail.com

Manuel - Jan 16, 2012 - 05:31 AM
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Is there any way to know how many places are still available?

daloonieshaman - Jan 16, 2012 - 12:25 PM
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I would like to point out that I had no clue (in North America) tickets were on sale until I got bored and looked at Europe fourm.
I was under the imression that NAFC was a world event. I guess I misunderstood.

Pipey - Jan 16, 2012 - 01:48 PM
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The information is there e.g. TOURNEYS section and on the front page of the site. Feel free to spread the word, DLS! Wink

We'll process all the payments received in the next few weeks and post a full list here, with regular updates. There are plenty of places don't worry. In no danger of selling out any time soon.

daloonieshaman - Jan 16, 2012 - 02:10 PM
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Pippy,

If a Major is supposed to be a Major why does it not jump out from the rest?
I went to tourneys page and it was lost among some 75-80 other events.
Hey if it is just another tournament to you, I guess that sets the tone.

Manuel - Jan 17, 2012 - 03:12 AM
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There's no need to be rude. You could just point out your preference for a more clear announcement of the tournament.

enrico - Jan 19, 2012 - 05:49 AM
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Darkson wrote:

No, as long as the models don't contain parts from other companies, conversions are fine.

hello!!
one could ask: is a problem if I have a team made â€‹â€‹up of the balck orc orcs, lineman, and goblins of WHF, while blitzter are W40k, and have the shoulder straps of space marines or chaos space marines, while the troll is another miniature GW, however, all conversions are done with the material .. GW
one last thing: you must also have the original field of the box base?

thanks a lot.

Thadrin - Jan 19, 2012 - 07:16 AM
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As long as the miniatures are easily identifiable as Black orc, Blitzer etc (I recommend you colour code your bases) you're fine.

enrico - Jan 19, 2012 - 07:51 AM
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Thadrin wrote:

As long as the miniatures are easily identifiable as Black orc, Blitzer etc (I recommend you colour code your bases) you're fine.

yes yes they are easily identifiable, if not I would be the first to be wrong ... hehe.
thanks a lot.

Pipey - Jan 19, 2012 - 09:06 AM
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GW ask that you use citadel miniatures.

Other than that from the NAF's perspective you can use what you like as long as your opponent can easily identify differences between player positions. Thadrin is exactly right!

Re basing of miniatures - again you can do this how you like, whatever suits you.

If you meant use of custom BB pitches, standard pitches will be provided by GW for all games. No need to bring along your own.

Doubleskulls - Jan 19, 2012 - 09:27 AM
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I assume people can bring custom pitches if they want to right?

Roller - Jan 19, 2012 - 11:22 AM
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Pippy wrote:

Excellent news!

Regarding e-tickets from the NAF. It may be several weeks before they're sent out as we'll send in batches.

Can you be faster please?
Foreign coaches have to ask for days off and to buy airplane tickets. (Ryan doesn't wait too many weeks to increase the costs) Not mentioning Hotel reservation, car hiring, and other stuff connected to trip organization.

We need just the confirmation, we can wait for the ticket and or e-ticket.

Thx,

Roller

Doubleskulls - Jan 19, 2012 - 11:28 AM
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Pippy has said on TFF that your paypal confirmation means you've got a ticket.

Lycos - Jan 19, 2012 - 12:08 PM
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In fairness, I think for foreign coaches we can get an email to you as well, or a PM. There are enough staff involved on this event to cover that. I take your point Roller as I am the same with Dungeonbowl and Sascha always looks after us with the upmost attention.

Pipey - Jan 19, 2012 - 12:19 PM
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NAFC 2012 Rules Pack wrote:

To reserve your place please send a Â£40 PayPal payment to thenafchampionship@gmail.com. Each entrant must provide their full name and current email address. NAF members must also provide their NAF name. Payments received before 09:00 on 14th January will not be accepted.

You will receive immediate email confirmation of your payment by PayPal. Once we have received and processed your details as above, the NAF will also send confirmation via email. This process may take a few weeks. When it arrives, please print your confirmation email ready to bring to the tournament.

We haven't sold out; there are heaps of spaces still available. If you have your PayPal receipt then you're in.

I'll post up a full list of paid entrants in the next few days. Official tickets may be a few weeks.

Roller - Jan 19, 2012 - 04:20 PM
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Doubleskulls wrote:

Pippy has said on TFF that your paypal confirmation means you've got a ticket.

Ok, thanks.

But this is the naf championship, maybe is better to post here this kind of comunications (or in both sites). I didn't log in in TFF since a couple of year.

I just need a confirmatin to go forward. There were some grey area in the process of booking, so this fix them.

@ Lycos: good idea. Bigger events need more burocracy like prepaid inscription etc. etc. For sure foreign coaches'll enjoy a little more help Wink

Farina and me have been in Nottingham 4 or 5 time before, so we know what to do now Wink

See you at Burgsman,

Roller

Pipey - Jan 20, 2012 - 04:06 PM
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All the info re payment / confirmations is in the rules pack. The info there would answer your queries.

More than happy to clarify anything which people aren't sure of.

Thadrin - Jan 21, 2012 - 10:16 AM
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Not seen any email, but the money is gone from my account, so I'll assume I'm in.

Just booked a room as well. Travellodge Riverside, same as last year.

battlepuppy - Jan 24, 2012 - 12:08 PM
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Two tickets bought.

Shame that GW are insisting on their models only, I've made a new custom Dwarf team specifically for this event but it's not GW stuff! But I get why they say this.

BTW I like the straightforward ruleset. I learnt to play BB by coming to tournies at Nottingham a good few years ago.

Many thanks to everyone at the NAF for organising this.

Andrew

Pipey - Jan 25, 2012 - 12:13 PM
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Sorry about the GW miniature thing, Andrew. Very very much hope to see your dwarves at another tournament soon!!

Someone asked about custom pitches (e.g. NAFWC boards, comixininos boards etc.) - this is absolutely fine.

Deathwing - Jan 26, 2012 - 11:37 AM
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I'm in.

Now what to take....hmmm...

peterd - Jan 28, 2012 - 10:23 AM
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Hallo! One question: Is it allowed to buy the same starplayer twice?
Greetings Peter

Rodders - Jan 28, 2012 - 01:10 PM
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No and if you and your opponent hire the same star player neithe of you may use them

P69 of the rule book

Pipey - Apr 04, 2012 - 08:11 AM
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Quick notice to those of you who have bought tickets.

Please could all coaches submit their rosters in an easily readable format to nafc.rosters@gmail.com. Please include all identifying details e.g. name and NAF name (if youâ€™re already a member), race, team name etc.

Pre-registration opened on 2nd April 2012. Please submit your roster before May 16th 2012.

This process is essential to ensure a speedy registration process on the morning of the tournament.

Thanks
Brendan

Pipey - May 01, 2012 - 04:20 AM
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A reminder: Pre-registration is still open. Thank you to the 30 of you who have pre-submitted your rosters.

That leaves only 155 who haven't Surprised

Please send them as soon as possible.

Rodders - May 01, 2012 - 06:16 AM
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will you wait i haven't decided on a race yet!!

Grumbledook - May 01, 2012 - 07:14 AM
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I bet if you'd offered points for submission you'd have got more, the earlier you submit the more points added to your tournament score...

Pipey - May 02, 2012 - 06:58 AM
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Now why didn't I think of that... Wink

Verrinho - May 09, 2012 - 04:35 AM
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just a question...is there a price for best defence or not?

Pipey - May 09, 2012 - 10:41 AM
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Hi verrinho, there's no best defence prize I'm afraid. We will publish the full results so the most miserly defensive coach will be able to claim some bragging rights!

Thanks
Brendan

Verrinho - May 10, 2012 - 05:30 AM
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uh...that's strange Sad

I will never win it anyway!
see ya!

Beppe - May 10, 2012 - 11:30 AM
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verrinho wrote:

uh...that's strange

No, it's not... it's a prize we have only in Italy... Wink

Verrinho - May 10, 2012 - 04:03 PM
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Beppe wrote:

verrinho wrote:

uh...that's strange

No, it's not... it's a prize we have only in Italy... Wink

oh really? that's why I find it strange...I played only in Italy as far as today :p
anywway I find it really useful and realistic, more than a casualty price, which I love by the way!
PS @ beppe: everything's fine with the roster?

Beppe - May 10, 2012 - 11:57 PM
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I took almost all the rosters from Italian players. Today I'll send an e-mail to the organization to complete the pre-registration

antipixi - May 16, 2012 - 12:20 PM
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I don't know if this has already been mooted, but would it be possible that next year that rosters could be submitted through STARS?

I'm not a programmer, but it must be possible to add a mod that would regulate rosters to the tournament rules and thus make submitting and checking much simpler. (Even if only half the coaches created roster through the system, they would effectively be pre-checked.)

+ STARS is very convenient for printing off easily legible rosters.

Sorry if this has already been broached, but it seems logical to me.

Chris

Pipey - May 16, 2012 - 01:22 PM
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Good idea, will definitely take note and bear in mind for future.

Pako - May 22, 2012 - 12:56 AM
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Hello!

Finally I could post in the NAFC topic! We were in silence due to the surprise given to our first LBN married, Juster (AKA the Snow Troll).

Now, I could thank all NAF Staff for this fantastic event. Certainly, the previously known Bloodbowl has reached the level he deserved, in numbers, in countries participating and so...

I would thank specially to Pippy his effort to help us in maintain all the bunch subscribed but hidden, the support and the advice.

Thank you also to all my opponents. Was amazing to play against 2 english, 2 italian and 2 french players. Such an experience that you could only have there. I will make it extensively to all the LBN opponents and the players that we met in the tournament. Some of them old friends and other new ones. Thank you all for an excellent experience again.

About the tournament itself, it was very well organized. All rounds were played on time (very important point involving 190 players), referees were also available and very kind, and the venue is perfect not only to play but also to spare time between rounds (you have a shop, a museum and a bar...).

Although the tournament was very good assessed, I think feedback would be appreciated, and that's because I want to make some comments. Some of them maybe are not easily (or even impossible) to implement, and probably they were also considered. But in any case comment them maybe could help organizers.

- About painting contest. As experienced painter, I think it is a pity to be in the Warhammer world and not take profit on the bunch of Pro-Painters that 'Eavy Metal has. From the point of view of painting "as an art" to have an experienced and skilled jury would be better than a fast referee selection and player voting. Maybe GW wouldn't help you in this point, but for a massive event as NAFC I think an effort to recruit at least 2-3 independent Golden Demon painters for a volunteer jury would rise the painting prize level. To select the teams during saturday morning and to exhibit them in saturday and sunday lunch will also give the players the opportunity to enjoy them. An independent painting jury will also get this part of referees work, so permitting them to focus on the tournament even better.

- About Stunty Cup. As stunties usually are not in high tables in final rounds (even the best ones) I think to take best two stunty teams to perform a Stunty Cup parallel final wouldn't mess the tournament round 6 so much. It on the other hand would give the Stunty Cup some extra relevance and hopefully promote the stunty teams subscription a little bit.

- Following stunties issues... You could also consider to include as stunties the "Skink" teams (made only with skinks and kroxigor) and the full-goblin Underworld (with troll and no skavens in them). They will also add some variety to the Stunty Cup.

- About the tournament final itself. I think you certainly need to place it in a preeminent place. Some of us think that final was played on table 1, but the real final place wasn't so important IMO. Maybe saving a little extra space in the center of Warhammer world or moving some tables in the last round... I think to raise this will be not so easy if you consider to move the final place, but I should note it because our mistake. It is better to have the final in a easily findable and preeminent place without the necessity of asking someone.

- And in the personal opinion part: I prefer to have tournaments with all the skills from the round one. It is more simple in order to check rosters and to start rounds. I don't know how many players joined the tournament the saturday morning, but maybe to close subscriptions Wednesday, Thursday or Friday will help to avoid the roster checking on saturday. As in the World Cup, it is preferred for many players to have round one on friday and just arrive to the venue and play. There are some resuorces in spain to implement a subscription website in with to enter the rosters and assign the skills, providing the organization a good tool to reduce their work on saturday morning. Just take into account, we could help on that.

And that's it. I hope it will help you and hopefully we could be there next year!!!

azzroag - May 22, 2012 - 12:55 PM
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Hi,

Thanks for all ! this was a perfect weekend !

I have made a little summary of my weekend here : http://www.grenierdeslegendes.info/2012/05/22/retour-sur-le-naf-championship/
(in french sorry)

I have take some photos of the price ! if you want your photo, please send me a mp here with your mail !

See you next year

Colin - May 23, 2012 - 06:32 PM
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Soooooo.....who won?

Would be nice to see who was the overall winner and the runnner up. I realise that organiser is busy entering all the results, etc, but would be nice to have someone who was there let us know who is the NAF Champion for 2012 (or is it 2512?)

Thadrin - May 24, 2012 - 12:25 AM
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The winner was KÃ¥re Foooooooood from Denmark with Dark Elves.
MFGP (Podfrey) took the League title with Dwarfs.

Still no sign of the complete standings.

Pipey - May 24, 2012 - 04:01 AM
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Hi Pako

Thanks for the kind words and also for the feedback.

Painting competition - plenty of things to consider there. We will certainly review it.

The final - it's a balance between creating the necessary atmosphere while giving the guys space from all the people who will inevitably be watching. Will look into ways of making it more visible.

Stunty and Skills - again we'll look at it, but my own feeling is that these things both work well. We'll have a think.

Cheers
B

KFoged - May 24, 2012 - 05:12 AM
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Pippy wrote:

The final - it's a balance between creating the necessary atmosphere while giving the guys space from all the people who will inevitably be watching. Will look into ways of making it more visible.

We had plenty with space (only had a crowd for the last couple of turns really), but the lightning was really bad and those tables was just awfull to play Sad

It can only get better for next year! Very Happy

Thanks for a good tournament,

KFoged

Beppe - May 24, 2012 - 05:52 AM
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Congratz Kfoged!!! Well deserved Smile

blackbull - Jun 04, 2012 - 08:31 AM
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Thanks for a great event and fun tournament!

I played my first Blood Bowl games almost 20 years ago, when tabletop games and miniatures were just a marginal hobby area in Finland. It was such a nice experience to finally visit Nottingham and GW, playing Blood Bowl at the origins of the game, and meeting other enthusiasts and creator(s) of the game.

Hope to be able to participate again next year! Smile

-BlackBull, team Badmoon Bashers

Pipey - Jun 26, 2012 - 03:46 AM
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Glad you enjoyed it. Very much hope to see you at next year's NAFC!

Brendan