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jmccubbin - Jul 21, 2003 - 08:04 AM
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If I multiple block 2 players and knock them both down, cna I use mighty blow on both players, or is it just allowed once. If I used it on player 1, I cannot use it on player 2? I am asking this simply due to the skill can only be used once for that players action.

James

Indigo - Jul 21, 2003 - 08:15 AM
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IIRC the multiple block is still only one action, just affecting two people so it can be used on both. I think it has to be the same on both though, like both armour or both injury but I can't remember.

this was discussed over at TBB though, do a search there and it will bring it back.

skummy - Jul 21, 2003 - 08:39 AM
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I'm 90% sure that it was ruled you can only use it on one player, but damned if I can find it at the moment.

Doubleskulls - Jul 21, 2003 - 09:52 AM
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My interpretation was that because Mighty Blow is a skill you can only use it once per action. I'd say that means only on 1 of your opponents in a Multiple Block although you can choose which one after rolling the armour/injury.

Tutenkharnage - Jul 21, 2003 - 10:55 AM
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I'd let it apply to both. The "once per action unless stated otherwise" is there to cover skills like Dodge and Leap. I mean, you'd allow the Multiple Blocker to use Block skill to knock down both opponents, wouldn't you?

I can understand the confusion, but it's not the skill description itself that causes the problem; it's the conjunction of skills.

-Chet

Darkson - Jul 21, 2003 - 01:25 PM
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We only ever had it once (a ST6 Kroxigor who also had PO). We allowed the M.Blow to be used on both, but the PO to only work on one.
We were never certain if this was right or not though.

Tutenkharnage - Jul 21, 2003 - 01:43 PM
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Darkson - That's the way I'd play it. Doesn't make it "right," mind you, but if it worked for your league...go for it Smile

-Chet

skummy - Jul 21, 2003 - 01:54 PM
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Well, I found a few relevant threads on this on TBB involving many of the same people discussing it now.

(Sorry Chet) In this one, Chet says only one player can be piled on.

http://www.talkbloodbowl.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1365

On this one, Darkson asks pretty much the same question, and gets an answer from Galak on the PO subject:

http://www.talkbloodbowl.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=4208

Perhaps this should be on the Hot List? It is not there currently.

GalakStarscraper - Jul 21, 2003 - 01:58 PM
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skummy wrote:

Okay both Chet and I said the same thing ... Piling On after a Multiple Block and only effect one of the two opponents.

However, this is going to be one of those times when I backtrack and say that I'll agree with Chet on this one that this is just a weird skill intersection that makes sense that it would only effect one and is the type of thing I don't want clogging up the rulebook (unless they add the Q&A section to the back for weird skill interactions like this so that the rulebook doesn't get messed up.)

Piling On is already on the Hot List in the Q&A section ... I'll just add this onto the end of it for an official clarification.

Galak

skummy - Jul 21, 2003 - 03:41 PM
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I think the original ruling was made because of the "All skills can be used once per action" text on page 34. I really don't have a preference as to which one is used in the end, as long as it's consistant.

Doubleskulls - Jul 21, 2003 - 05:37 PM
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Tutenkharnage wrote:

you'd allow the Multiple Blocker to use Block skill to knock down both opponents, wouldn't you?

Yes, because that's a single roll of the dice Rolling Eyes

The Av/Inj is 2 sets of dice rolls so you only get to use Mighty Blow once. The rules are pretty clear "each skill once per action" by using it on both sets of rolls that looks like 2 usages to me.

Its one of those very rare occurances anyway, and hardly a game breaker either way. In fact I'd be tempted to adopt the strict interpretation because it weakens Big Guys a little bit more (as the most likely Multiple Block/Might Blow players)

Indigo - Jul 22, 2003 - 03:20 AM
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yep, a good example of "roll a dice to settle it then discuss in the pub" Smile

Darkson - Jul 22, 2003 - 03:23 AM
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Ah, my favourite type of rules discussion Wink

jmccubbin - Jul 22, 2003 - 05:29 AM
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Doubleskulls wrote:

Its one of those very rare occurances anyway, and hardly a game breaker either way. In fact I'd be tempted to adopt the strict interpretation because it weakens Big Guys a little bit more (as the most likely Multiple Block/Might Blow players)

Actually it's my standard for Troll slayers.

Doubleskulls - Jul 22, 2003 - 08:43 AM
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Indigo wrote:

yep, a good example of "roll a dice to settle it then discuss in the pub" Smile

But why aren't you already in the pub? Very Happy

Indigo - Jul 22, 2003 - 01:17 PM
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good point - but as of next thursday we will be Wink

Nutty01 - Jul 24, 2003 - 05:41 AM
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Because thay were both stunned due to a Multiple Block with Mighty blow. Laughing