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fe2mike - Feb 29, 2012 - 08:33 PM
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Calling all Blood Bowl fans!

This is an early announcement for the North American Team Championships being held in Las Vegas next year.

Most of the info is not solidified yet, however we wanted to get the word out as early as possible.

Tentative Dates: 3rd or 4th weekend in April 2013

Tentative Cost: $500-600 per team, this will include hotel and lunches, entry, goodies, etc.

Tentative Goodies: Each coach will get a goody bag. This will include custom dice, counters, and/or dugouts. Also, as a centerpiece there will be a limited edition commemorative figure, or set of figures (maybe even a full team) depending on amount of teams that preregister.

Start saving as we would like to get as many teams as possible!

More details to follow soon, so stay tuned.

-fe2mike

daloonieshaman - Feb 29, 2012 - 09:49 PM
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Kilowoggy - Feb 29, 2012 - 11:00 PM
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Both Down will do our best two get two teams out there at least. Team Steve and Team Scott. Now I just have to grab some good players to be on my team. Bwahahahha

AnthonyTBBF - Mar 02, 2012 - 10:30 AM
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We are getting a team together from Toronto! Really looking forward to this.

daloonieshaman - Mar 02, 2012 - 01:06 PM
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Lizardcore - Mar 02, 2012 - 01:34 PM
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@ daloonie:

create a flyer, we can post it at every tournament, and in hobby stores.

daloonieshaman - Mar 02, 2012 - 02:34 PM
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Glamdryn - Mar 02, 2012 - 02:55 PM
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I second the idea of a flier.

daloonieshaman - Mar 02, 2012 - 04:43 PM
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nick_nameless - Mar 03, 2012 - 08:08 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Go to you league and spread the word. Start forming your own team of 4 coaches (4 different races).

I want to start pushing this with my local group, but being the gamer types that they are they will want the details of how many gold, can they buy inducements, skill packs, etc.

Do you have this worked out in advance or is it still under discussion.

daloonieshaman - Mar 03, 2012 - 04:11 PM
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Clan_Skaven - Mar 03, 2012 - 04:29 PM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Re-roll counters stacked off the track and placed on the track in the turn in which you use them.[/list]

more to come check for an official rules posting very soon.

I have never used RR's in this fashion, I have always had them on the track & removed them as I used them. I know others that play it that way, but as long as the turn marker is being moved I really do not see why that is mandatory.

Lizardcore - Mar 03, 2012 - 04:39 PM
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I guess the customs rules are just a by-product of daloonie being high Very Happy

daloonieshaman - Mar 03, 2012 - 05:12 PM
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zootsuitjeff - Mar 03, 2012 - 07:02 PM
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I think I'm going to have to enforce a Shaman gag order. Statements above are definitely not official, and are subject to change...

daloonieshaman - Mar 03, 2012 - 07:07 PM
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nick_nameless - Mar 03, 2012 - 10:51 PM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

We are still talking (big thread) about the skills and what to do and not do with them. It is not gold but the field leans to not staggering the skills like at the WCII. As far as if you can get skills and how many, what type, that is the biggest part of the conversation.

Just one guy's opinion, but I prefer the kind of tourney where people build a roster with skills before the tournament as opposed to picking skills for each round. I never like meta-gaming.

If I can find the flyer from last year's I-CON tournament, they had some really great stuff for skill packs and inducements. It looked like:

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Twilight (Chicks dig it. Nerds dig it. Nerdy chicks REALLY dig it. If you pick Twilight, youâ€™ll have a following. An angsty, pale, emo following, but a following nonetheless)
5 x Assistant Coaches
5 x Cheerleaders
2 x Bloodweiser Babes
1 x player gains the â€œFan Favoriteâ€ skill

Harry Potter (Nothing says â€œSci-Fiâ€ like Wizards and book learning)
1 x Wizard
1 x player learns a singles skill
1 x player learns a double skill

Stargate SG1 (Oâ€™Neill plays dirty, so should you)
2 x Bribes
2 x players both gain the skills â€œDirty Playerâ€ and â€œSneaky Gitâ€

Star Trek (weâ€™ve got Captain Kirk, Dr. McCoy, First Officer Spock, and Ensign Ricky)
1 x player gains the â€œLeaderâ€ skill
1 x Wandering Apothecary or Igor
1 x player learns a singles skill
1 x Free Lineman with Loner and Decay

Star Wars (Weâ€™ve all seen it before hundreds of times and its a staple of Sci-Fi conventions)
6 x players learn a singles skill (cannot have more than 2 of the same skill)

I'd love to see something balanced, but interesting and again, not helping players metagame versus specific opponents. I am sure some would prefer that, but it's not my favorite modus operandi.

Lizardcore - Mar 04, 2012 - 10:54 AM
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@nick_nameless: somehow, in the 17 pages discussions, the consensus emerged to be TV110 + skill pack from the start, to simplify the tourney and save time (no down time for skill picking etc...)

The question is now what type of skill packs.

Jonny_P - Mar 04, 2012 - 11:12 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

It will be very close to the World Cup II

daloonieshaman wrote:

It is not gold but the field leans to not staggering the skills like at the WCII.

Doesn't sound "very close to the World Cup II"

daloonieshaman wrote:

at least 11 copies of your roster (1 for us 1 for you and 1 for each opponent)

Here's a wild idea.... ask for your roster back from each opponent.

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Skills written (or abbreviation) on the base somehow (write on the the solid base, a little sign whatever as long as they can tell) (NOT this guy with red hair has guard and this guy (same model) with blue hair has block)

I'm not writing skills on my models bases.

I'm not putting "a little sign whatever" on my models.

As for the different color hair denoting skills.... this is actually a GOOD thing. That is a reason why most of us do paint different color hair or helmets. To show opponents they have different skills. There is absolutely no difference between using colors on a model or a different model post altogether to denote skills.

daloonieshaman wrote:

Re-roll counters stacked off the track and placed on the track in the turn in which you use them.

Show me in the CRP/LRB6 rulebook where this is a rule.

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Try to foul every turn, you must foul if the following models go down: Big Guy, Witch Elf, Upgraded move Gutterrunner, AG 5 elf or slann, and any snotling.

No.

Are you serious bro?

I know someone may argue what's the difference in some of these crazy rules than the Etiquette Sheet I setup for Chaos Cup.

The difference is, those are based on feedback I've received in my 6 years of running tournaments that people have asked for to try and enforce a fun environment for each game.

When it comes to rulings, or even suggestions, please consider the difference between sensible requests (models numbered and skills noted on roster) to your own personal tastes and how you play.

You want to maximize attendance right?
This is an event 90% of attendees will be flying to right?
Keep all that in mind.

Just a suggestion from a guy who voted for your bid. Cool

Stimme - Mar 04, 2012 - 11:44 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Try to foul every turn, you must foul if the following models go down: Big Guy, Witch Elf, Upgraded move Gutterrunner, AG 5 elf or slann, and any snotling.

Finally somebody that acknowledges the real spirit of Blood Bowl.
It's so easy to implement: If no foul has been performed on one of the above-mentioned models, the last player having done an action on the pitch before the turn ends is being ejected by the referee. Call it "Foul Disappearance".

Daggers - Mar 04, 2012 - 11:51 AM
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Congrats to the winning bid. Started saving already. Will wait for final decission before posting opinions on rules pack and such. Cannot wait. I will be there. See everyone in 2013.

zootsuitjeff - Mar 04, 2012 - 12:24 PM
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Please take statements made by daloonieshaman along with your weekly allowance of sodium. We are still just starting to discuss the ruleset and it will be quite a while before the final rulespack is locked down. We will post it publicly and get feedback from everyone before finalizing it.

daloonieshaman - Mar 04, 2012 - 12:44 PM
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daloonieshaman - Mar 04, 2012 - 02:16 PM
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Kilowoggy - Mar 04, 2012 - 03:02 PM
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We've got over a year to give each other a hard time and tease.. so... Let's not do it all right now. Smile

I would recommend having a printer there just in case. I needed it at Orclahoma Bowl for multiple people. But again, best not to rely on it.
Now, onto serious matters... Do you plan for kosher vegetarian lunches? Because if not... Well... Doesn't matter to me. I love meat.
...
...
Wait... That doesn't sound right...

zootsuitjeff - Mar 04, 2012 - 08:37 PM
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Kilowog1 wrote:

We've got over a year to give each other a hard time and tease.. so... Let's not do it all right now. Smile

I would recommend having a printer there just in case.

I'm going to require every coach to bring their own printer.

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Doesn't matter to me. I love meat.

That's what she said.

fe2mike - Mar 04, 2012 - 11:04 PM
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zootsuitjeff wrote:

I think I'm going to have to enforce a Shaman gag order. Statements above are definitely not official, and are subject to change...

I 100% agree, if he is not careful we may have to take away his Internet privalages! Smile

Kilowoggy - Mar 05, 2012 - 12:01 AM
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zootsuitjeff wrote:

Kilowog1 wrote:

We've got over a year to give each other a hard time and tease.. so... Let's not do it all right now. Smile

I would recommend having a printer there just in case.

I'm going to require every coach to bring their own printer.

Jokes on you! I was probably going to offer to bring mine if I drive out there!
Ha!

generaljason - Mar 05, 2012 - 05:16 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Re-roll counters stacked off the track and placed on the track in the turn in which you use them.

Jonny_P wrote:

Show me in the CRP/LRB6 rulebook where this is a rule.

Same place that you find TV110 builds, alternate weather tables, free starting skills, no spp-gaining, and resurrection between games. Razz

Jonny_P - Mar 05, 2012 - 06:30 AM
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My next tournament you'll have to move your turn marker with something other than your hands. Mr. Green

AnthonyTBBF - Mar 06, 2012 - 10:54 AM
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Jonny_P wrote:

I'm not writing skills on my models bases.

I'm not putting "a little sign whatever" on my models.

I will not be wrecking my models this way either.

Back in the day, when I had to walk 30 miles uphill bothways just to play at a Blood Bowl tournament, we had to actually remember these things in our head! Rolling Eyes

Kids these days...

Clan_Skaven - Mar 06, 2012 - 11:45 AM
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Stimme wrote:

daloonieshaman wrote:

Try to foul every turn, you must foul if the following models go down: Big Guy, Witch Elf, Upgraded move Gutterrunner, AG 5 elf or slann, and any snotling.

Screw that, I'm all for fouling , but if I'm unable to foul for any reason I should not be punished, and have a player ejected,

I was thinking this was going to be a fun event, if it will be run with all there wonky BS rules I'm out, good luck to all that do.

Stimme - Mar 06, 2012 - 12:03 PM
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That's a valid point. You should consider modifying this rule such as one only gets ejected on a 2+.

Anyways, I am looking very much forward to this event and will try to attend!

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 12:08 PM
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Lizardcore - Mar 06, 2012 - 12:24 PM
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I guess it's the same old Daloonian strategy: write up provocative stuff so people are answering in the thread... And I have to admit it works quite well Very Happy

@ daloonieshaman: can you raise the dead as well ? Maybe you could even revive games workshop passion for minis and fun/interesting games Very Happy

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 12:28 PM
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generaljason - Mar 06, 2012 - 02:41 PM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

I was thinking this was going to be a fun event, if it will be run with all there wonky BS rules I'm out, good luck to all that do.

What do you mean, like warpstone tokens? Razz

Don't worry Rod - unless the tourney was a 10 minute walk from your house nobody was expecting you to be there. Wink

(all in good fun guys Laughing

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Clan_Skaven - Mar 06, 2012 - 06:22 PM
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generaljason wrote:

Clan_Skaven wrote:

I was thinking this was going to be a fun event, if it will be run with all there wonky BS rules I'm out, good luck to all that do.

What do you mean, like warpstone tokens? Razz

Don't worry Rod - unless the tourney was a 10 minute walk from your house nobody was expecting you to be there. Wink

(all in good fun guys Laughing

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Warpstone tokens fit into the fluff of the the theme of my tourney but you do not have to use them it is an option, not the same has stating you 'have' to do this or that....

& what do you mean unless it was 10 mins from my house, that I wouldn't be there? You have made it to 4 tournies compared to the 33 I have attended, (not saying 33 is a lot compared to some people, but its a fair more than 4) If your going to take a jab at someone at least have your facts in order!

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 06:27 PM
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Clan_Skaven - Mar 06, 2012 - 06:37 PM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

well you do 'HAVE' to use NAF/GW blocking dice Wink

And that I agree with....

I have seen some home made block dice that I can not even read what the symbles are supposed to be.

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 08:23 PM
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Khail - Mar 06, 2012 - 08:56 PM
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One sheet with all games should be fine. Don't waste the money on a binder.
Dugout I honestly don't care about, but then all the Rat City boards have them built in. Wink

I would say again dugout is a waste of money. Spend it all on the sculpting/manufacture of the team. If that's top tier, the rest doesn't matter. A well sculpted and cast team giveaway would be a great draw.

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 09:11 PM
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Kilowoggy - Mar 06, 2012 - 10:01 PM
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We have a year to build interest, call in favors, black mail, threaten and whatever else we need to get people to come out. I full expect over 100 people just based on absolutely nothing.
I know you can't give away all your secrets, but I'm sure there's a # that's needed to get a team made. Keep in mind that getting a team made will also raise attendance.
It's easier to tell someone "You go and you get an exclusive team that is worth your entry alone" vs "You go and get an exclusive model that is cool".
Once the teams are confirmed(if you do that option), I'll be pushing that as a HUGE incentive for going.
Just my 2Â¢

daloonieshaman - Mar 06, 2012 - 11:26 PM
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generaljason - Mar 07, 2012 - 02:42 AM
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Clan_Skaven wrote:

generaljason wrote:

Clan_Skaven wrote:

I was thinking this was going to be a fun event, if it will be run with all there wonky BS rules I'm out, good luck to all that do.

What do you mean, like warpstone tokens? Razz

Don't worry Rod - unless the tourney was a 10 minute walk from your house nobody was expecting you to be there. Wink

(all in good fun guys Laughing

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I don't want to bog down the thread. PM sent.

Lizardcore - Mar 07, 2012 - 12:24 PM
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Damnit, just when it was starting to be funny Wink

generaljason - Mar 08, 2012 - 12:31 AM
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Yeah it was suppose to be funny.

As for NATC rules, I don't imagine them being much different from the rules used at the last World Cup:

"1.1M Team build. Before round 1 you may assign three skills to three separate players on your roster. Before round 4 and round 7 you may assign two skills to two separate players on your roster. No player can get more than one extra skill during the tournament.

All skills are â€˜normalâ€™ skills. Before round 4 and 7 one of the skills may be a â€˜doubleâ€™.

All skills must be noted on the team roster your team captain hands in to the organization when registering your team on day 1."

Gj.

Lizardcore - Mar 08, 2012 - 08:18 PM
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=> two differences discussed before (and probably still under debate) : less total skills (6 ? ) and all skills available from game 1

daloonieshaman - Mar 08, 2012 - 08:31 PM
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daloonieshaman - Mar 13, 2012 - 10:21 AM
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Lizardcore - Mar 13, 2012 - 10:29 AM
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If you need a hand to "virtually" playtest your rules, let me know (I've been to a great variety of tournaments, and I use to be a powergamer Razz

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For the rest, good luck (but keep it as simple as possible. Ask people to bring their own stuff as much as possible, you can even reuire that the captain of each team check that everything is ok with his team).

Notorious_jtb - Mar 14, 2012 - 07:28 PM
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I really think that would be a good idea to do that Lizardcore!

There will be significant input from the coordinating committee into the ruleset as well as the organising committee. It shoudl be good and not too extreme.

Daggers - Mar 15, 2012 - 06:44 AM
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Notorious_jtb wrote:

.... It should be good and not too extreme.

I didn't think Bryan was involved in this one.... (bad joke, but had to do it)...

fe2mike - Mar 19, 2012 - 07:25 PM
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Hey all, we had a good meeting this weekend and will have more details posted soon!

fe2mike - May 29, 2012 - 06:45 AM
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North American Team Championships new dates May 10-12!

Listen to the Zlurpcast June show for tons of info!

runki_khrum - May 29, 2012 - 07:02 AM
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Good dates for me!

Daggers - May 29, 2012 - 08:09 AM
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Thought it may be an issue, but should be good.

fe2mike - May 30, 2012 - 06:51 PM
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Our new site is up!
http://www.northamericanteamchampionship.com/
Please go check it out and let us know what you think.

fe2mike - Aug 12, 2012 - 06:11 PM
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Registration is open!

Be sure to check out and take advantage of the the early bird deals.

http://www.northamericanteamchampionship.com/registration/

fe2mike - Oct 08, 2012 - 06:54 AM
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One week remaining for the Early Bird Registration!

Glamdryn - Oct 09, 2012 - 09:16 AM
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Registered!

daloonieshaman - Oct 09, 2012 - 07:32 PM
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How many are registered so far

zootsuitjeff - Oct 10, 2012 - 12:02 PM
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As of this morning, we have 8 teams registered with more registering each day. I would encourage people to sign up, even if you only have 1/2 of a team or 1/4 of a team committed right now. Pay for your portion of the team and you will lock in the early bird perks for yourself. If people end up with only partial teams, we will work on merging teams or creating some freebooter teams.

Jeff

Daggers - Oct 16, 2012 - 11:37 AM
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I signed up and got the response email confirming I registered, but how do I pay?

Glamdryn - Oct 17, 2012 - 10:44 AM
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Im in the same boat as you.

runki_khrum - Oct 17, 2012 - 11:00 AM
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He'll send you a second post with details. Or you can just send me the money if it's burning a hole in your pantaloons.

fe2mike - Oct 17, 2012 - 06:41 PM
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Hey All, we are just 2 teams short of meeting our minimum registration number of 12 teams! We are so close!

As an extra incentive to hopefully get those last 2 soon, we are leaving the Early Bird rate open until the end of the month (Oct 31st).

Daggers - Nov 01, 2012 - 09:48 AM
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Any update? Did we get those last two teams. I am already pumped about going, Blood bowl, Vegas, strippers, gambling, booze..really what reason can you make up NOT to come.....I know 3 teams from our area signed up.

runki_khrum - Nov 01, 2012 - 11:49 AM
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Dwarfrunner wrote:

..I know 3 teams from our area signed up.

Not much room left for anyone else on the podium.

Wink

fe2mike - Nov 04, 2012 - 07:56 PM
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Earlier this weekend I posted a couple work in progress pictures of the models on the facebook page.

http://www.facebook.com/NorthAmericanTeamChampionship

Daggers - Nov 06, 2012 - 02:10 PM
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Very cool.

Glamdryn - Nov 07, 2012 - 10:50 AM
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So did we reach the team minimum? I wants to buy me my plane tickets!

fe2mike - Nov 11, 2012 - 10:26 PM
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All right!
Once all payments are complete we are at our 12 teams!

So that is already 48 coaches committed to the NATC, pretty good for an event that is still 6 months out.

So far we have 1 German team, 6 Canadian teams, and only 5 US teams.
Come on Americans, we can be outnumbered by the foreigners Wink

Daggers - Nov 12, 2012 - 10:59 AM
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Thats AWESOME!!! Canadians outnumber the Americans on their own soil.. Its like the NHL in Blood Bowl form...

fe2mike - Dec 23, 2012 - 08:55 AM
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About 3 weeks left for the discounted regular registration. Full details on the site... http://www.northamericanteamchampionship.com/

Also check out round 2 of the WIP shots of the models.

Rando - Dec 24, 2012 - 11:16 AM
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Anyone out there looking to get a team together?

Taxal - Dec 25, 2012 - 06:53 AM
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Woul dlove to but if I go it will be a last minute thing.....

fe2mike - Dec 28, 2012 - 05:16 PM
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Hey guys, I just wanted to get a place started for players looking for a team and or roommates for the NATC in Las Vegas!
Please visit these threads and post there as they are kind of the central BB locations on the web.

http://www.thenaf.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=88186#88186
http://www.talkfantasyfootball.org/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=37526&p=663513#p663513

fe2mike - Dec 29, 2012 - 02:06 PM
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The regular registration deadline has been extended through the end of January.
So get on your buddies and get them to commit!

blammaham - Dec 29, 2012 - 10:33 PM
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Why has the deadline been extended? S.

Grither - Dec 31, 2012 - 01:29 AM
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We have a few teams that are finalizing coaches, time off, etc. and needed a little more time so they could get the discount - hence the extension.

zootsuitjeff - Apr 11, 2013 - 11:53 AM
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For any of you procrastinators out there, there are just 4 days left to register for the big dance! We should have matchups predetermined for all of the squads sometime next week. For now here is a quick taste of who will be there and from where:

Mad Dawgz Ohio, USA
Team XTBBF Toronto, CA
Rocky Mountain Rampagers Utah, USA
Newton Jack City Vancouver, Canada
Shhhh, We Have A Hangover Washington State, USA
Drunk Ass Gamers New York, USA
The House Las Vegas, USA
Blame Canada Ottawa, Canada
Eh Team Ottawa, Canada
Thunderballers Vancouver, Canada
Teutonic Terrors Germany
West Coast Chaostriches North California, USA
Orkland Dudes Oakland, CA, USA

Daggers - Apr 11, 2013 - 01:11 PM
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Wow, more Canadian teams than I thought. Awesome!! Cant wait for this....

Glamdryn - Apr 11, 2013 - 09:26 PM
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Thats one word... DrunkAssGamers Wink

Clan_Skaven - Apr 11, 2013 - 11:29 PM
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Really wish I had the funds, good luck everyone.

delevus - Apr 12, 2013 - 06:41 AM
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I'm impressed that a German team is coming. Looking forward to playing them Smile

lauth81 - Apr 12, 2013 - 09:17 AM
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We are looking forward to play against all the North American coaches!

Daggers - Apr 12, 2013 - 11:27 AM
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We have a German on our team? Does that count?

Glamdryn - Apr 12, 2013 - 11:35 AM
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How is it gonna work with 13 teams?

Clan_Skaven - Apr 12, 2013 - 04:18 PM
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Glamdryn wrote:

How is it gonna work with 13 teams?

2013
13 Teams
Year of the Horned Rat Baby
GO SKAVEN GO

delevus - Apr 13, 2013 - 07:03 AM
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I'm a bit curious about an odd team count.

Daggers - Apr 13, 2013 - 07:21 AM
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There is a spare team not listed I believe.

fe2mike - Apr 17, 2013 - 07:40 PM
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Not sure on this one, will pass the question along though.

fe2mike - Apr 18, 2013 - 09:51 AM
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Here is the answer that I got:

each of the bottom 3 teams will play against 1/2 of the other two teams in the bottom half. We should be able to insure that no squad will face another squad more than one and a half times.

zootsuitjeff - Apr 18, 2013 - 11:31 AM
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fe2mike wrote:

To correct/clarify, "each of the bottom 3 teams will play against 1/2 of the other two teams in the bottom three." Some squads may need to play half of another squad more than once, but one squad should never face another squad more than twice and no single player will play the same player twice.

zootsuitjeff - Apr 25, 2013 - 12:20 PM
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Here are the first round pairings for the tournament. Let the trashtalking commence!

Table 1: West Coast Chaostriches vs Newton Jack City
Dan Roberts Geoff Roscoe
Russ Castronovo Simon Tomsen
David Hezzelwood Jon Dawes
Steven Eudy Daniel Thompson
Table 2: Shhh, We Have a Hangover vs Blame Canada
Mike Green Adam Jones
Adam Lewis Colin Kelliar
Jay Farris Gleen Jones
Rachel Green Leathan Kelliar
Table 3: Orkland Dudes vs Thunderballers
Cole Filipek Michael Adams
David Cantrell Kristian Hargreaves
Eric Bieschke Murray Campbell
Jeff Ridenour? Ed Law
Table 4: Rocky Mountain Rampagers vs Team XTBBF
Bryan Tew Anthony Watts
Rich Kilton David Brawley
Quinn Harward Jack Youngberg
Tim Taysom Alex McCutcheon
Table 5: Mad Dawgs vs Teutonic Terrors
Darkork20 Lauth81
flyingdingle utak
delevus Heroic_Tackle
falcon Planlos
Table 6: The House vs Eh Team vs DrunkAssGamers
Doug Saunders Mark D'Agostino
Jared Nultemeyer Lindsay Williams
Nebojsa Trivanovic Seth Stewart
Daniel Liswood Arnaud Gain
Mark Perre Simon Reid
Alex Weiss Brad Wales

jrock56 - May 02, 2013 - 12:57 AM
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One week until we descend upon the sands of Vegas to reign supreme amongst our North American brethren!! Stoked for what will hopefully become a staple event in NA for year's to come! Bring it on my BBowl peeps!!

Can't wait Mr. Green

Daggers - May 02, 2013 - 09:05 AM
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God, right now, I just want to get away from work for afew days. But the fact that I get to go to VEGAS!! Play some BB and meet some new people is just a whole lot of icing on the cake. REALLY looking forward to this. As Adam said, hopefully this becomes a NA staple.

sann0638 - May 02, 2013 - 03:11 PM
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Sounds like it'll be great - looking forward to twupdates!

runki_khrum - May 03, 2013 - 01:54 PM
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This is going to be a riot! Money? Check! Team? Check! Condiments?.......... Condiments?

Stimme - May 03, 2013 - 04:07 PM
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This might be the first time I beat Colin outside Canada! I am so excited.

/Edit: I forgot about the Chaos Cup. But this might be the first time I beat Colin in Vegas! I am so excited.

runki_khrum - May 03, 2013 - 04:33 PM
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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. Unless I beat you! Then it goes viral. Wink

runki_khrum - May 08, 2013 - 10:35 PM
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Lee and I have set up base camp at the Hard Rock Casino. Smile

(.)(.)
The first wave of Canadians has arrived!

jrock56 - May 08, 2013 - 11:46 PM
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We have also arrived and set up 'base camp' in the hotel called Hard Rock!!! Ready to roll baby!

Stimme - May 09, 2013 - 06:50 AM
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I am seriously concerned that no US custom officer ever knows about the existence of Bloodbowl, despite my repeated attempts to educate them. Imho the NAF should drastically increase its lobbying efforts in Washington so that registered members can eventually bypass these tiresome border controls.

DarkOrk20 - May 09, 2013 - 07:09 AM
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I finally agree with you, for once. Imagine all the times that I cross the border to play up there and have to explain it every time.

I'll be hitting the road soon. Mad Dawgs are doing the fly by. Coming in, taking the trophies and heading out. We're too busy for the likes of youz.

flyingdingle - May 09, 2013 - 08:21 PM
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We are somewhere over the midwest trying to guess what teams our round 1 oppenents are going to play. There's a dead rat next to me....oh...I guess that's actually Tom

Grumbledook - May 11, 2013 - 05:04 AM
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GL everyone, wish I could be there!

flyingdingle - May 12, 2013 - 09:43 PM
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Great tournament guys. I had a blast. Can't wait for the next one!

Lycos - May 13, 2013 - 10:46 AM
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So who did what! Results, info, scandal, pics Smile

runki_khrum - May 13, 2013 - 11:03 AM
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Most people are traveling home or wandering the casinos like zombies. Smile

I had a great time against some very good opponents. Always cool to meet and play different coaches.

Chewblocka - May 13, 2013 - 02:23 PM
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Not even a hint at who won, or lost? Is this a what happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas policy?

sann0638 - May 13, 2013 - 02:53 PM
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The Germans won according to Twitter. Let's assume there is a large hangover happening somewhere!

delevus - May 13, 2013 - 04:24 PM
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Yep, the Germans won by a few points over team Mad Dawgs. Results should be posted in a week. Flight hang over and all Smile

zootsuitjeff - May 13, 2013 - 06:52 PM
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Here are the rankings:

As I expected, the Europeans came in and kicked our asses, with the Teutonic Terrors taking the champion plaques
The Thunderballlers Team from Vancouver took Most Prolific (TD), and DrunkAssGamers from the East Coast took Most Devastating (CAS)
Iron Mike's Team Shh, We Have a Hangover Got the Wooden Spoon
Mad Dawgs from the Midwest placed 2nd overall, Blame Canada was third.

Although there were no prizes for individuals, Marc Hohmann from Teutonic Terrors was best scoring individual, Cole Filipek from Orkland Dudes had the most touchdowns, and Brian Tew from Rocky Mountain Rampagers took most casualties.

Finally, the Canadians took the big cup with a final score of Canada 133, USA 124. I will finish getting the cup engraved and bring it to Spike! to hold until the next NATC.

Team Names Total Score TDs CAS
Teutonic Terrors [TT] 67 59 54
Mad Dawgs [MD] 65 53 74
Blame Canada [BC] 60 58 62
The House [TH] 56 54 71
DrunkAssGamers [DAG] 55 47 82
Rocky Mountain Rampagers [RMR] 55 45 71
Thunder Ballers [TB] 53 59 70
Orkland Dudes [ORD] 48 48 43
Newton Jack City [NJC] (Rat Bastards) 45 55 56
West Coast Chaostriches [WCC] 43 40 76
Eh Team [ET] 41 34 49
Team XTBBF [XTB] 33 30 53
Iron Mikes [IM] 17 31 47

AnthonyTBBF - May 14, 2013 - 08:34 AM
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Thanks to everyone involved in organizing and running the team tournament! Team XTBBF had a blast. We met some great people and had a ton of fun and some memorable games. Hope to see you guys again soon!

Daggers - May 14, 2013 - 12:11 PM
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Thanks to all my opponents for some really fun games. Had some crazy fun playing Dark Elves for the first time, and even more fun with my assassin (stabby stabby).

Thanks to Jeff and Shawn for running the first ever NATC. You guys set the bar, and made it a pleasure to play in. Congrats to the Germans for reminding us in North America, that we arent quite there yet for the international stage. ;P

Congrats to all my Canadian bretheren for winning the overall National standing. I would say its a team effort, but really, I had very little to do with it.

Looking forward to NATC 2017 in (insert winning city here)

Heroic_Tackle - May 20, 2013 - 02:19 PM
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Wow, what an experience! Vegas was crazy, lost too much at poker. I liked the nationalparks (Bryce Canyon, Grand Canyon) better, very epic and majestic.

The tournament itself was very enjoyable. I`m glad that I didn`t drag my teammates down with my matches. They did great and I`m super-happy that we won!

The coaches at the tournament were very nice, great atmosphere. Pleased to meet you all (and sorry when I was complainig too much).

I felt that that the tournament was wrapped up too fast after the last game. The announcement of all winners, second place, most TD, etc. was too rushed IMHO.

Great tournament, thanks for running it and having us. I felt very welcome. I also liked the prizes (got a Scotling team).

See ya!

(Lars from Teutonic Terrors)

daht - May 21, 2013 - 02:37 AM
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It was great fun, loved doing a little tour guide as well Smile

flyingdingle - May 27, 2013 - 09:09 AM
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you guys probably already noticed but all the entries in the win loss tie column are zeros

AGF - May 29, 2013 - 01:52 PM
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Thanks for running this tournament.

I had a lot of fun and met some pretty good and fun to play coaches.

The giveaway miniatures were pretty awesome. I am now bummed I already have a skaven team AND an underworld team Razz

But I' m sure I'll find a use for those awesome rats.

I always enjoy playing in a team tournament setting, in my opinion it increases the fun.

Thanks to Brad for being our #4.

I will second Lars for the award ceremony though, it was kind of rushed.

I would also that add that, in my opinion, the time allocation for each round was either too short or too strict. Given the setting and the relatively limited number of teams, I would have expected some flexibility to allow players to finish their games, at least on the first two days. If there were some hard deadlines for the room, games could always have been wrapped up by the swimming pool. People traveled from all over the place for the tournament and it's always frustrating not to be able to finish a game.
I know 2:15 was the time frame used at the world cup, but when you count, this doesn't allow you to play a complete game if players use their full 4 minutes (if you had pre-game and kick-offs setup).
But it may be because I' m french and used to tournament always running late. Again, it's just the opinion of someone whose epic come back was crushed on turn 15.5 by strict time rules Smile

Congrats to the Teutonic Terrors and to the Canadians who won while being outnumbered I believe.

lauth81 - May 29, 2013 - 10:36 PM
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When will the results be uploaded?

zootsuitjeff - May 30, 2013 - 10:28 AM
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Soon, just need to finish entering a few more rounds.

Daggers - Jun 05, 2013 - 12:05 PM
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Results??

zootsuitjeff - Jun 05, 2013 - 06:09 PM
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Results are posted now.

jrock56 - Jun 05, 2013 - 09:16 PM
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zootsuitjeff wrote:

Results are posted now.

Hey guys, just noticed that you have both myself and one of my teammates down as playing Norse. I was actually Chaos Dwarves on Blame Canada ( the results themselves seem correct ) it is just the wrong race input for myself. The rest of my team seems to be input correctly as well. If/when you can make that change would be great!

Thanks,
Adam

Daggers - Jun 06, 2013 - 05:59 AM
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And I only have 8 games listed in my results, one of my wins is not in there.

lauth81 - Jun 06, 2013 - 11:42 AM
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Dwarfrunner wrote:

And I only have 8 games listed in my results, one of my wins is not in there.

same here

Glamdryn - Jun 06, 2013 - 11:47 AM
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My first match was against Lizardmen, not orcs. That looks like the only error on my report and jrock being CDs.

Glamdryn - Jun 06, 2013 - 11:48 AM
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jrock56 wrote:

zootsuitjeff wrote:

Results are posted now.

Thats what I thought I noticed that too. I think a few races were inputed incorrectly.

Daggers - Jun 11, 2013 - 09:44 AM
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Also, the first round on the final day seems to be missing a match, since it only has 23 matches entered, but all the other rounds have 24.
And I think there were supposed to be 25 matches per round. I am going from memory, but there were 13 teams, and two had three players. So that should be 50 coaches. Correct?

And my missing match is from the second day first round.

Anyways, just want to try and help clear this up so it hopefully gets fixed soon.

Stimme - Jun 19, 2013 - 10:26 PM
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I finally got around to upload some photos of the event! Be aware that Google+ downsizes all images (probably to reduce upload time into the PRISM database). If you would like any in higher resolution, please let me know.

Daggers - Jun 20, 2013 - 06:33 AM
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Yeah, we were totally at the wrong event. That Boise State thing was hard to miss.

generaljason - Jun 20, 2013 - 06:42 AM
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Great pics Alex! I especially like the one with all the Canadians. Very Happy

Stimme - Jun 20, 2013 - 07:36 AM
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Dwarfrunner wrote:

Yeah, we were totally at the wrong event. That Boise State thing was hard to miss.

I was a bit disappointed to see that all the cheerleaders I thought Zootsuitjeff had hired were actually not there for us but for the sports team event.

jrock56 - Jun 28, 2013 - 03:18 PM
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jrock56 wrote:

zootsuitjeff wrote:

Results are posted now.

Just wondering if any of the reporting errors will be corrected at some point, there have been a few people other than myself that also had concerns that haven't really been addressed at all. Could we get some sort of response on this please,

Thanks
Adam (jrock56)

Daggers - Jul 11, 2013 - 12:39 PM
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Ok, just to bump it up again. Its been two months now and still the errors have not been corrected. Any update.

daht - Jul 11, 2013 - 05:16 PM
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A few errors are a bit major.. having wrong races for coaches that made huge ranking changes.

Daggers - Jul 29, 2013 - 09:07 AM
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Bump.....Still nothing from the TO's?

daht - Aug 16, 2013 - 01:58 AM
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Highelfmage was incorrectly listed as Orcs (he played Lizardmen), and B-Side was incorrectly listed as Lizardmen (he played Skaven)

Any chance the mistakes are going to get corrected?

Notorious_jtb - Aug 16, 2013 - 04:51 AM
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The mistakes WILL get corrected.
It looks like it will have to be done the hard way but it will be fixed.
"this can not stand"

Daggers - Aug 16, 2013 - 07:02 AM
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Ok, fixed the incorrect races for people.

Once the magic button is pushed it should be all good.

Corrections done are as follows:
jrock56 is now Chaos Dwarf, not Norse
Highelfmage is now Lizardmen, not Orcs
B-side is now Skaven not Lizardmen

Glamdryn your first match should be correct now, since Highelfmage was your opponent.

The missing matches I will need some help, I am not positive who my opponent was for my missing match, Lauth81 do you remember yours?

Notorious_jtb - Aug 16, 2013 - 08:12 AM
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Good stuff. Lets make sure we miss nothing!

daht - Aug 16, 2013 - 11:30 AM
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great, thanks!

daht - Aug 16, 2013 - 03:03 PM
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Looks like the ranking issues today undid the fixes

lauth81 - Aug 18, 2013 - 07:12 AM
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Dwarfrunner wrote:

The missing matches I will need some help, I am not positive who my opponent was for my missing match, Lauth81 do you remember yours?

Don't know the NAF nick and can't remember the real name. It's a round 7 game vs a guy playing skaven that is missing

Daggers - Aug 20, 2013 - 10:46 AM
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Ok, got ahold of Zotosuitjeff and got the match-up results. Will probably go through it this weekend, if not before.

daht - Aug 26, 2013 - 05:17 PM
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still working on this?

Daggers - Aug 30, 2013 - 06:07 AM
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Yeah, sorry, didnt get a chance to finish it. Got about 1/3 of the way through, but ran out of time. Honestly, didnt find any mistakes so far.

daht - Aug 30, 2013 - 03:21 PM
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the two mistakes I know of are on the las vegas team.. b-side should be listed as skaven (not lizardmen), and highelfmage should be listed as lizardmen (not orcs)

Daggers - Sep 04, 2013 - 07:54 AM
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Ok, most of it has been fixed. Lycos had to help me out with something. Once he finishes and the magic button is pushed, everything should be good for this tournament.

jrock56 - Sep 05, 2013 - 01:10 AM
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I am still noticing that my team is input as Norse and my rankings go under Norse as well. Seeing as there was already a Norse team in our foursome that is not a possibility. Everything should be input as Chaos Dwarves (my match results were correct it is just the incorrect race input)

Thanks for the work on this guys as clearly the ball had been dropped by the TO's on this one.

Daggers - Sep 05, 2013 - 06:09 AM
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Yeah, once the magic button is pushed, that should all be fixed. Hopefully soon, this has been hanging around for a little to long.

daht - Sep 06, 2013 - 07:44 PM
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Push the button! the shiny candylike button!

daht - Sep 14, 2013 - 05:09 PM
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Still not fixed, is the button pushed yet?

Daggers - Sep 15, 2013 - 02:12 PM
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Looks like the matches are all in, but the races are still wrong. Will get him too look at it again.

daht - Sep 26, 2013 - 10:02 AM
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This is still ongoing. Lets work to get it fixed before the next NATC! Smile

daht - Oct 05, 2013 - 07:44 PM
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Still ongoing...

daht - Oct 19, 2013 - 12:19 PM
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results are still incorrect

sann0638 - Oct 19, 2013 - 01:36 PM
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Good persistence daht. Very Happy

Daggers - Oct 21, 2013 - 05:54 PM
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Unfortunately, Lycos has to fix the final problem, he has to manually change each race in each match-up, which is something I cannot do. I have reminded him again to fix it, so hopefully he will remember.

Lycos - Oct 22, 2013 - 11:52 AM
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Right, been doing all sorts in the back end to fix this and getting close. Jrock56 - you are listed as using CDs now and I have checked your ranking points and it seems to be picking up your Norse ranking. So I then went back in and edited all your games and I am about to do another rebuild of the entire ranking system. Hopefully we are near.

Daht, by all means PM me directly and we can swap emails, it will be faster if we clear this directly if you know the errors
Dave

Lycos - Oct 22, 2013 - 12:16 PM
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Ok jrock56 is now done, I know what occurred now and understanding the problem is 99% of the fix.

Daht, I have these two I know about "b-side should be listed as skaven (not lizardmen) FIXED, and highelfmage should be listed as lizardmen (not orcs) FIXED"
They will show as the right races but the scores might be out of sync. I need to fix those two and I think we are there

edit; both those rankings are fixed too. I now believe this is up to date

Daggers - Oct 22, 2013 - 12:40 PM
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Phew, that was a process, thanks Lycos for finishing it off. Everything looked good to me.

jrock56 - Oct 22, 2013 - 09:02 PM
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Thank you for sorting this all out gentlemen, been a long time since the NATC to figure out these few issues. Thank you for getting involved Dwarfrunner and Lycos and fixing the problems! As a tournament organizer myself, I can't believe more initiative wasn't taken by the tournament organizer's to fix these issues month's ago (should have been their responsibility to ensure things were corrected initially)

Thank you for your help again,

Adam