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AnthonyTBBF - Aug 18, 2004 - 02:35 PM
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Spike tickets are going on sale Monday August 23!

They will be $60 and will include 2 days of gaming (on custom boards no less), a T-shirt and a commemorative coin. Tickets will be available online, through mail order and at the GW Battle Bunker store at HQ.

Info about rules etc. will be up on the website on Monday. You will also receive a booklet with your ticket.

Any questions just let me know...

Anthony

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 18, 2004 - 04:09 PM
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Yahoo! The news is out... and I can't wait!
(But first GenCon... Very Happy

)

Zombie - Aug 18, 2004 - 04:09 PM
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Can we get a discount if we don't want the T-shirt, the coin and the booklet?

Why 60$?

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 18, 2004 - 04:32 PM
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can u give us info on the rules and # of games?

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 18, 2004 - 04:37 PM
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What part of

AnthonyTBBF wrote:

Info about rules etc. will be up on the website on Monday. You will also receive a booklet with your ticket.

didn't you understand? Very Happy

(I know - you're still upset about missing Indy this weekend... truly sorry you aren't going to be there. Hopefully next month in Toronto... er, Oakville Smile

)

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 18, 2004 - 04:57 PM
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lol...didn't read it all correctly. Good luck OMM>>>hope u take over #1 rated US Coach there Smile

You taking the CD roster we talked about?

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 18, 2004 - 05:27 PM
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Not sure - I've got (1) w Mino (2) w/o Mino and (3) w/HtU, so we'll see...

Thanks, my friend, we'll hoist a beer to absent friends as always...

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 18, 2004 - 05:28 PM
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If anyone is coming from overseas and has flights already booked, please PM me ASAP. Thanks.

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 18, 2004 - 05:30 PM
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Zombie wrote:

Can we get a discount if we don't want the T-shirt, the coin and the booklet?

Why 60$?

No, there is no discount. That's how much it costs us to hold the event.

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 18, 2004 - 05:32 PM
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Anthony:

Is there any way to instruct the Direct Service staff to have our ticket/rule set held on site, in sort of a "Will Call" so we don't have to risk the mails?

Zombie - Aug 18, 2004 - 06:01 PM
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Then, can we get a plain T-shirt instead? I seldom wear T-shirts, and when i do, it's only plain, coloured one. A T-shirt with Spike! printed on it would end up as my laundry shirt, at best.

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 19, 2004 - 06:10 AM
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Sorry Z, no can do.

OMM: Ask the Direct Services guy to give your ticket to me.

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 20, 2004 - 03:39 PM
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Hey guys,

Spike! tickets will be available online as early as 12am on Monday (Sunday night I guess you could call it Wink

). If you want to order one by phone, Direct Services is open at 9am EST.

The web site might be up tonight, you can download a PDF of the rules there.

I am getting pretty excited now! too bad I can't play!

Anthony

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 21, 2004 - 11:53 AM
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Was looking at Airplane tickets....which Airport would be best?

Zombie - Aug 21, 2004 - 01:06 PM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:

The web site might be up tonight, you can download a PDF of the rules there.

What's the URL?

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 21, 2004 - 04:51 PM
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Zombie,

Try this...

http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/events/spike/home.htm

-Rob

Zombie - Aug 21, 2004 - 06:13 PM
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Thanks!

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 21, 2004 - 06:17 PM
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Site says OCTOBER 18th and 19th tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

40KVet - Aug 21, 2004 - 06:36 PM
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October 18 & 19th are on a monday and tuseday.....

But it says...

"October 18th and 19th will be a weekend to remember in the violent blood-stained world of Blood Bowl."

Ooooops..... it seems someone screwed up. Embarassed

Zombie - Aug 21, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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Yeah, just show up in October using your "Necromatic" team!

Grell - Aug 22, 2004 - 08:21 AM
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is there only a limited amount of tickets?

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 22, 2004 - 09:27 AM
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Grell-
The last I heard the maximum number of players was set at 80.

That was a while ago, so let's see what Anthony says.

-Rob

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 22, 2004 - 09:32 AM
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Anthony-
I have another question for you...well two actually. Very Happy

#1. I see that the Halfling Master Chef costs 150K, but I didn't see the cost associated with Special Ingredients. Does that mean one roll only?
If not, what do the additional rolls cost?

#2 How do the rules handle the Rotters created by a Beast of Nurgle's victims? I hear that some tourneys let the coach of the Nurgle's Rotters take the "new" Rotter(s) for the remainder of the current game. How will they be handled for the Spike! Tourney?

Thanks in advance. -Rob

Zombie - Aug 22, 2004 - 09:52 AM
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I can answer #2 : Undead teams can't raise the dead, so i'm pretty sure that Nurgle teams can't either.

As for #1, i suspect that they were still thinking of the old rules without ingredients when they wrote that. In the current rules, the master chef himself is free.

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 22, 2004 - 07:29 PM
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i think for 150k u get 3 rolls to steal.

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2004 - 08:57 PM
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gken1 wrote:

i think for 150k u get 3 rolls to steal.

For tournaments I've recommended 1 of the 3 methods for the Chef ...

1) Chef is free for his first roll, extra ingredients are 60k a piece (used this for GenCon). 2+ gets/takes a reroll.

2) 150k for the old LRB 2.0 Master Chef. D6/2 round down extra rerolls.

3) 150k for the Vault 1.5.1 Master Chef. 3D6 roll. Get/Steal a reroll for each 2+.

As a Fling coach ... any of these 3 methods is fair for the Flings.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2004 - 09:01 PM
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Good luck Anthony on the tournament.

The number to beat for largest NA tournament is 60 coaches. Honestly hope you guys can pull it off. Wish I could make it.

Galak

Clan_Skaven - Aug 22, 2004 - 09:28 PM
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gken1 wrote:

Site says OCTOBER 18th and 19th tho!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's supposed to be Sept. 18th & 19th, is it not?

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 23, 2004 - 06:01 AM
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Doh, yeah sorry guys it is September... the date on the site will be fixed this morning.

I'll answer the question about the Master Chef later when I've had time to review the options.

BUD - Aug 23, 2004 - 06:02 AM
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yup, Sept it is... whats goin on Anthony? You've succumed to the GW typo problem!

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 23, 2004 - 07:26 AM
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Ok, just bought my ticket so I'm in. Anybody need a roommate?

Ken

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 23, 2004 - 08:02 AM
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BUD wrote:

yup, Sept it is... whats goin on Anthony? You've succumed to the GW typo problem!

I think there is a Typo Demon at GW. I swear I had 3 people proof the rules booklet and I still found a mistake after it was printed.

I should really learn to read Wink

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 23, 2004 - 08:18 AM
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Ken-
I just ordered mine as well. If you are still looking for a room mate...I'll take that slot if its ok with you.

Let me know.

Thanks. -Rob

Grumbledook - Aug 23, 2004 - 11:28 AM
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i'm there for a bit longer and require somewhere to stay 14th-20th iirc

Zombie - Aug 24, 2004 - 01:10 AM
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They want to charge me 10$ for postage of the ticket! Shocked

Can anyone who lives nearby buy an extra one for me? Da Scum maybe, since i'll be staying at your place? Anyone?

No way i'm paying 10$ to have a ticket sent through mail. The only other option will be to go there without one hoping to buy one at the door.

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 24, 2004 - 04:53 AM
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Zombie, tell them to give it to me (Anthony Watts).

Zombie - Aug 24, 2004 - 12:36 PM
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When i add the item to the cart, it automatically adds the 10$. So i suppose that i have to buy it over the phone, right?

twist - Aug 24, 2004 - 03:08 PM
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I called the Direct Services number, Zombie. Never heard anything about extra money. The guy on the other end of the phone said they were selling quite well, so hurry people, and get your spot! I need more of a variety of victims, since all the TBBFers know how to beat me... Razz

Zombie - Aug 24, 2004 - 03:38 PM
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Yep, i ordered them just now on the phone and they didn't charge me anything for shipping, though they did charge me taxes which amounts to about $10 anyway!

So anyone thinking of ordering tickets, do it by phone and not through internet, and save $10!

Zombie - Aug 27, 2004 - 03:00 AM
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It says that all models must be appropriate painted Citadel miniatures. It also says that all coaching staff must be represented. Does this mean that if i only have a Shadowforge apothecary, i can't heal any players? Games Workshop doesn't even sell apothecaries!

Sounds like i'm gonna have to play undead or necromantic...

Clan_Skaven - Aug 27, 2004 - 07:16 AM
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Zombie wrote:

I use a grey seer for my appoth.

My head coach is a grey seer painted in team colours, & my appoth is a grey seer painted white, with bloodied hands.

I'd say any kind of wizard could pass for an appoth

jaylazer - Aug 27, 2004 - 09:34 AM
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Hey,

I'm trying to do a cost analysis for this trip. If it's not too much I should be able to make it.

Anyone have a list of hotels that are close to the Battle Bunker?

Zombie - Aug 27, 2004 - 01:17 PM
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Good idea Clan-Skaven, but i don't have any wizard.

I just remembered that i have a converted orc apothecary (i think). Do you guys think it would be wrong to use an orc apothecary for a norse team?

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 27, 2004 - 01:24 PM
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JayL - you and Ken should plan on splitting a room at the Fairfield Inn - 5 minutes away and split twoways, its cheap...

jaylazer - Aug 27, 2004 - 01:34 PM
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OMM - That is an option (assuming Ken would have me Wink

)

However, there's a good chance Val will be coming too, so we would need room for two.

I'll know better tonight about both of us.

Grumbledook - Aug 27, 2004 - 01:40 PM
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ok my flight tickets have arrived now, canada here i come

when is the tbbf night, fancy some real competition for the night?

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 27, 2004 - 01:59 PM
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Kicked to the curb? Shocked

@ OMM- I am actually splitting a room with Ken...I'm not sure if he has booked it yet, but maybe we could get a larger room to accomodate us all.

@ JayLazer- My current plan is to take a train to DC to meet up with Ken and then drive back with him. Are you guys driving from PA, and if yes...can I get a ride with you? It'll save me some cash, and Ken the burden of picking me up at the Train station?

Please let me know.

Thanks. -Rob

jaylazer - Aug 27, 2004 - 02:03 PM
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Karl

We don't have any specific plans yet. Not even sure if I'm going yet.

If we do go then you are definitely welcome to come along.

I should know tonight about both Val and I.

I'll post tonight or tomorrow to let you know.

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 27, 2004 - 02:07 PM
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Sorry - didn't know you guys had made plans - I've sent the URL for that property to Ken...

Hope you and Val can make it, Jay!

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 27, 2004 - 02:07 PM
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Cool Beans...I just thought I'd ask...please let me know when you know.

I'll keep my eyes on the board here, or if you want to PM or e-mail me.

Thanks. -Rob

Ben - Aug 27, 2004 - 03:24 PM
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Glad to see so many people interested in coming to the Spike. I'm looking forward to seeing all you guys again and getting back into Bloodbowl after too long of a break. Damn dancing and Baseball gets in the way. Anyways the only thing i'm wondering is if i should use my Ork team or my newly painted Skaven team. They look nice but Damn are they fragile little creatures. I have no idea what to use as a lineup if i go with the Skaven. Any Suggestions?

Ben

BTW - you guys should come over either the Friday night or Saturday night for some Beer and Guillotene.

BUD - Aug 28, 2004 - 10:58 AM
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Buds Skaven Team 'O Glory

2 Stormvermin (180k)
3 Gutters (240k)
1 Thrower (70k)
6 Linemen (300k)
3 RR's (180k)
3 FF

Stormvermin for the blocks to take out ball carriers and blitz every turn, plenty of gutters for ball handling, enough RR's for some fun stuff and a thrower for assurance with the ball. Good luck Ben! You'll need it if you face off against my stunties with beards!

BUD - Aug 28, 2004 - 11:00 AM
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oh ya, and 12 players to make sure you can field somewhat of a team.

Kolja_TBBF - Aug 28, 2004 - 02:31 PM
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I'd go with:
1 rat ogre
1 storm vermin
2 throwers
3 gutter runners
5 line rats
2 RR
some fan factor

Now for me:
Should I take 0,1,2 golems? Each golem will cost me a RR (starting with 3 RR) and some FF (starting at 5).

Kolja

twist - Aug 28, 2004 - 03:13 PM
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Hmmmm, 1, 2, or 3 Wardancers? Very Happy

Grumbledook - Aug 29, 2004 - 04:10 AM
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fear my nerves of steel catchers

Clan_Skaven - Aug 29, 2004 - 05:10 AM
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I always take...

1 Rat Ogre
1 Thrower
2 Storm Vermin
3 Gutter Runners
4 Line Rats

1 Appoth
2 RR
1 FF

But I always do terrible, so maybe thats a bad line up. Or maybe I'm a bad coach. Or maybe both!

snew - Aug 29, 2004 - 09:22 AM
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That looks like a pretty good lineup to me.

Xtreme - Aug 29, 2004 - 10:55 AM
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But I always do terrible, so maybe thats a bad line up. Or maybe I'm a bad coach. Or maybe both!

Not the worst Skaven coach in the world yet so theres still hope for ya. Wink

Clan_Skaven - Aug 29, 2004 - 12:21 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

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But I always do terrible, so maybe thats a bad line up. Or maybe I'm a bad coach. Or maybe both!

Not the worst Skaven coach in the world yet so theres still hope for ya. Wink

Ya true, but I'm like 4 from the bottom! Laughing

Clan_Skaven - Aug 29, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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Ben wrote:

- you guys should come over either the Friday night or Saturday night for some Beer and Guillotene.

Beer is always great, & I played Guillotene at the GenCon last week. If you like games I have the game for you...

If you like laughing out of control & making farm animal noises (no, not a scene from Deliverance) Then 'SNORTA' is the game for you.

I could also bring another great party game I discovered at the GenCon called 'APPLES to APPLES'

You know for those in between tourney, too drunk to play or set up BB moods! Wink

twist - Aug 30, 2004 - 02:09 AM
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Grumble: The TBBF get together on Thurs nights downtown.

Grumbledook - Aug 30, 2004 - 10:32 AM
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right we are, downtown being toronto i take it

jaylazer - Aug 30, 2004 - 12:03 PM
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Just bought my ticket. So you'll all see me next month.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 30, 2004 - 12:35 PM
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Jay-
Is Val coming also?

-Rob

jaylazer - Aug 30, 2004 - 01:22 PM
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I don't know about Val yet.

He's still trying to figure things out with his Girl Friend. That weekend is one of the few weekends she gets off from work (she's a doctor).

I should find out tonight.

On Saturday, he said he was most likely going. So that's promising.

twist - Aug 31, 2004 - 09:31 PM
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Yes, Grumble, downtown Toronto. Its near Yonge Street, and accessable by subway (underground). I can send you the spam directions/map to where we get together that I give all the new recruits, if you want. PM me with your email addy. Cool

Grumbledook - Sep 01, 2004 - 02:12 PM
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well still not got anywhere to stay yet anyone recommend somewhere in toronoto not too expensive

and can't someone come pick me up or something, or you going to make me fly all the way out then walk there ;p

Bikerbob - Sep 01, 2004 - 04:18 PM
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Hello all, new NAF member here. I am also a ticket holder for the spike bowl at the bunker! Smile

I play in the BB league at the bunker, will be playing Skaven I think, but wondered what has anyone seen of successful Lizardman teams in Tournament play?? I have my team, but from reading the rules and looking at costs of a basic team etc.. I am not convinced in a 6 game format that a Lizardman team is the way to go.

James

Zombie - Sep 01, 2004 - 05:09 PM
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http://www.bloodbowl.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1479

Lizardmen are 3rd out of 19 races in tournaments, and 2nd in TR 100 tournaments. I think you'll do fine! Wink

twist - Sep 01, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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Ugh, Zombie, don't encourage another coach into playing Lizards.... Laughing

twist - Sep 01, 2004 - 11:33 PM
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Grumble, are you looking in Toronto or Oakville?

Hoshi_Komi - Sep 02, 2004 - 07:01 AM
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lizards are easy.. played against four of them at the BB! beat 3 tied 1 (only cuz I couldn't pick up the damn ball!!!)

jaylazer - Sep 02, 2004 - 07:03 AM
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Grumbledook wrote:

well still not got anywhere to stay yet anyone recommend somewhere in toronoto not too expensive

Hey Grumbledook,

I currently have a reservation at the Fairfield Inn. Looks like my friend isn't going to make it to the tourny, so I could use a roommate.

You're welcome to it.

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 02, 2004 - 07:11 AM
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I think Grum's coming over early so one of our TBBF friends are going to have to help out initially...

Grumbledook - Sep 02, 2004 - 11:32 AM
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yer i shoudl arrive the wednesday

ant recommedned staying in toronto and getting a lift to oakville each of the 2 days otherwise there is nothing for me to do the other days I am there

Bikerbob - Sep 03, 2004 - 04:11 PM
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Grumbledook, saying the Bunker is in OAKVILLE is a little misleading. It is on the other side of the street of Mississauga, and if you stay in a motel in Mississauga then you have access by transit to all of TO if you need to.

There are a few little motels in the area of the Bunker.

James

Trog - Sep 05, 2004 - 06:51 AM
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Received my ticket for the tourney 2 days ago. Weeeeee!!

Got a question on the ticket. The coach # box that is on the ticket, is that my NAF membership # or the coach # from the event itself?

Thanks in advance for the help.

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 05, 2004 - 07:52 AM
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The event number - I'm certain the NAF numbers have not been printed or put on the event tickets....

twist - Sep 07, 2004 - 11:09 AM
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I don't think you will find anything cheaper than here, Grumble, in downtown Toronto:
http://www.daysinn.com/DaysInn/control/Booking/property_info?propertyId=04095&brandInfo=DI

The rooms are a little on the small side, but nice and clean.

Grumbledook - Sep 09, 2004 - 05:21 AM
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much obliged twist

just need some poor sod, er victim, er volenteer who wants to drive me from toronto to the bunker each day

oh and to get the the tbbf thing on thursday

Shadewe - Sep 09, 2004 - 06:47 AM
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You know if I hadn't just started my new contract. I would be that sod. Would have convinced my wife to visit family in new your then drove from there to the Tounament. Smile

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 09, 2004 - 02:20 PM
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Grumble - email me at home and we'll sort everything out. I got you PM but forgot to reply, but don't worry, I can drive from downtown.

Grumbledook - Sep 10, 2004 - 03:31 AM
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care to message me with your home email then ant ;]

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 10, 2004 - 06:08 AM
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DONE>

BTW guys, check out the Spike! section on the GW Canada site for some cool previews Wink

Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 07:30 AM
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Cool shirt and stadium Very Happy

Grumbledook - Sep 10, 2004 - 07:46 AM
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poop that hotel appears to be booked up :/

Ben - Sep 10, 2004 - 07:51 AM
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Wish i could help but i live closer to Oakville than i do Toronto. I can definatly give you a lift on Thursday to the TBBF if you wish. But as for the weekend tournament, unless you get a place closer to Oakville, Toronto would be a bit to far for me.

Ben

Da_Scum - Sep 13, 2004 - 12:54 AM
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Oy Former Commish!

Nothing has been sent for me for the Spike! yet, however I've still got the receit and the Trolls have my money! Laughing

I've got the booklet though, so if I can show up on Friday or Early on the Saturday will everything be there? I ask this as I understand others are doing rather the same thing if their stuff wasn't sent out to them.

BUD is SO not winning this thing, even if I need Clan-Skaven to hold him down he's not getting away from the Goblin hordes this time!

The TBBF is bringing this one home...but by all means send more of Europe's finest, as we'll give their points a lovely permanent home here! Twisted Evil

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 13, 2004 - 04:54 AM
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Hey Scum, get the hint!!! They haven't sent you anything because they don't want you there Wink

And the TBBF is facing its biggest challenge yet so I wouldn't carve their name on the Spike just yet...

And trust me, Grum is NOT Europe's finest... McSnaga, yes, Dook, no Wink

Clan_Skaven - Sep 13, 2004 - 05:42 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Oy Former Commish!

Nothing has been sent for me for the Spike! yet, however I've still got the receit and the Trolls have my money! Laughing

Goblins & Skaven working together to kill off a bunch of Woodies?
I like that alot!
Do I see a new alliance forming here?....

Look out NFBBL & TBBF...
Look out Euro & US Coaches...
Most of all look out BUD...

Make way for Da Scum & Clan-Skaven as the New & Improved Underworld Creepers Mr. Green

Da_Scum - Sep 13, 2004 - 10:15 AM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Hey Scum, get the hint!!! They haven't sent you anything because they don't want you there Wink

Finished the tunnel a week ago, so that's not stopping the lads, they even went out and got new uniforms. Mind you that's because your team went and wrecked the last ones and the players IN them! Besides the NAF rules were very clear on the amount of the Bribe to be forwarded...

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And the TBBF is facing its biggest challenge yet so I wouldn't carve their name on the Spike just yet...

Oh what are the opponents going to do, bleed all over us? We've seen SHEEP with more fight in them, and that's before trying to get the knickers off of them! Just ask Twist about that one! He's STILL got wool burns!

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And trust me, Grum is NOT Europe's finest... McSnaga, yes, Dook, no Wink

They sure are an improvement over that "Pretender" they have over there who just THINKS he can play a real team. Fluke luck, a broken team and selectively weak opponents! If he was a real coach he'd show up at Gencon to get his butt handed him by Yankees eager to relieve him of his bloated NAF score! Laughing

Heck even the Goblins and Halfling coaches here could kick his big Boot-tay! Up North America! Worship

BUD - Sep 13, 2004 - 10:57 AM
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BUD is SO not winning this thing, even if I need Clan-Skaven to hold him down he's not getting away from the Goblin hordes this time!

Hmmm, I don't think you should be trying to take the SPIKE away from any TBBF'ers as this'll probably be the toughest challenge yet. But as for you and Clan Skaven not allowing me to win, bring it on little girl.

Ben - Sep 13, 2004 - 12:11 PM
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[quote="BUD"]

Quote:

bring it on little girl.

OUCH!

Da_Scum - Sep 13, 2004 - 01:28 PM
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[quote="Ben"]

BUD wrote:

Quote:

bring it on little girl.

OUCH!

Oh yeah he makes that sound a lot, ask the sheep! Laughing

Clan_Skaven - Sep 13, 2004 - 09:53 PM
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Hey BUD!

I have a post or pre (take your pick) tourney challenge for ya!

Put your Woodies on the field vs. both my Skaven & Da Scum's Gobos!

I have the experimental rules for the Underworld Creepers....

So all you have to do is grab your Woodies & "BRING IT!"

Or are you afraid of the "Gob & Rat Attack!!!???"

BUD - Sep 14, 2004 - 07:03 AM
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Underworld Creepers?

Hmmm, we'll see how much time I have to play an extra game or whatever, but i'll bring the woodies nonetheless so that they can tromp you good =P

Da_Scum - Sep 14, 2004 - 11:14 AM
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BUD wrote:

Underworld Creepers?

Hmmm, we'll see how much time I have to play an extra game or whatever, but i'll bring the woodies nonetheless so that they can tromp you good =P

Tromp? This from the Lords of the Prance? Laughing

You're going to have even less than two players when we'e done! Oh sure I STILL can't pick up the ball worth crap but I figure that will be the Rat's job. Rolling Eyes

BUD - Sep 14, 2004 - 01:44 PM
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lol... takes 2 of you to make an interesting game Smile

twist - Sep 14, 2004 - 03:12 PM
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I'll referee. Laughing

Da_Scum - Sep 14, 2004 - 03:15 PM
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BUD wrote:

lol... takes 2 of you to make an interesting game Smile

Takes one of you to make a tackling-dummy!

And Twist, you're usual service fee of several pints so you'll be Firm but Fair eh? Laughing

Game on Prance-a-lot! Pow

Grumbledook - Sep 14, 2004 - 05:40 PM
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um well, just got in from italy and been doing some hotel searches and come up with dick all places with a room free

my organisation has been somewhat lacking heh

BUD - Sep 14, 2004 - 06:23 PM
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sounds like your screwed Mr. Dook Smile

CyberHare - Sep 15, 2004 - 03:40 AM
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I hear they have very comfortable benches at the airport Razz

Ben - Sep 15, 2004 - 08:14 AM
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When you getting into Toronto Grumble?

Da_Scum - Sep 15, 2004 - 10:23 AM
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Grumbledook wrote:

um well, just got in from italy and been doing some hotel searches and come up with dick all places with a room free

my organisation has been somewhat lacking heh

Right, the Monte Carlo in Oakville has rooms free for $89.99 a night and that includes breakfast. Also the Day Inn in Oakville now has rooms available at $109 per night. It has the advantage of being very near the Battle Bunker as it's at North Service Road and Winston Churchill.

Hope that helps a bit. Wink

jaylazer - Sep 15, 2004 - 12:15 PM
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I've still got a space in my room at the Fairfield Inn.

I've already told dook he could have the space but I think he's in the air at the moment so not sure if he'll get the PM.

He gave me his cell phone number, but there are too many digits for me.

The number is like this +123456789012 . With all those digits, does it include the country code or do I have to figure out what that is?

Can you tell I've only made about 2 international calls in my life? Embarassed

Zombie - Sep 15, 2004 - 01:41 PM
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It includes the country code.

jaylazer - Sep 15, 2004 - 04:21 PM
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Cool.

I've sent dook a text message so hopefully he'll meet me there.

Thanks Zombie

Zombie - Sep 16, 2004 - 02:50 AM
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Questions about the rules :

1. Are star players allowed to use team rerolls?

2. Is there overtime?

BUD - Sep 16, 2004 - 06:53 AM
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1. I dunno

2. No

Grumbledook - Sep 16, 2004 - 07:38 AM
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*Grumledook has entered the country

right its tbbf night tonight and i need a lift there or something

i am staying in the quality hotel suites or something on 2180 islington road

heh i will take a risk and post my mobile number as this is a members only forum +447787554994 or from a landine 00447787554994

see some of you tonight if not see you at the weekend!

40KVet - Sep 16, 2004 - 08:08 AM
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Anyone heard from Old Man Monkey?

Hurricane Ivan seems to be hitting his part of the gulf of Mexico hard.

I hope he's ok and is still comming.

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 16, 2004 - 12:01 PM
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*pant*... *gasp*... *gurgle*... 'still here' *spit* 'trying to keep my *choke* 'head above water' *paddle* *splash* Very Happy

Still planning on coming - picking up Neoliminal in NYC in the morning and we'll spend the day driving to the land of championship hockey and fast food poutine... Very Happy

For having experienced three hurricanes in the past four weeks, my friends and I here in Tampa have been very fortunate... I'm sure those NAF members in the panhandle of FLA also ALA, MISS and LA would appreciate a note (FSUpadre, Westonwyse, ShadowElf, and aerofool, to name a few...)

See everyone tomorrow - looking forward to getting out of this wet and soggy area for the weekend and having a great time playing some BB and drinking some beers...

-OMM

ps hey Twist, are we going to go see our waitress goddess anytime this weekend - I know she'll be interested to know that Neo's back in town... Very Happy

Ben - Sep 16, 2004 - 12:34 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

*pant*... *gasp*... *gurgle*... 'still here' *spit* 'trying to keep my *choke* 'head above water' *paddle* *splash* Very Happy

Is that drowning? or something else completly different. OMM i never knew you were into that kind of thing. Wink

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 16, 2004 - 12:39 PM
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Alas for such a young mind in the gutter - it was intended to represent my near drowning but as usual, Ben, you have found a lower common denominator... Wink

Ben - Sep 16, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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ohhhhh baby!

Da_Scum - Sep 16, 2004 - 01:01 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Alas for such a young mind in the gutter - it was intended to represent my near drowning but as usual, Ben, you have found a lower common denominator... Wink

Oh come on now, everyone know the females flock to the Silver-back of the pack! Laughing

And welcome to what will be the only Professional Sport in Canada for a while! (And no the Blow-Jays clearly don't count!) Rolling Eyes

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 16, 2004 - 01:07 PM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Oh come on now, everyone know the females flock to the Silver-back of the pack! Laughing

Perhaps but I was concerned that Ben's idea of watersports and mine might be taking severely divergent paths...!!! Very Happy

Da_Scum wrote:

And welcome to what will be the only Professional Sport in Canada for a while! (And no the Blow-Jays clearly don't count!) Rolling Eyes

...while not quite professional yet - thank Nuffle! - certainly taken every bit as seriously Or does Nuffle endorse curling as well...! Smile

twist - Sep 16, 2004 - 02:14 PM
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Waitress Goddess... hmmm... Idea

Oh her!!! LOL!

40KVet - Sep 16, 2004 - 03:53 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

...while not quite professional yet - thank Nuffle! - certainly taken every bit as seriously Or does Nuffle endorse curling as well...! Smile

Hey! That's an idea Bloodcurling.

3 players Carry a rock and 5 opposing players try to make them slip on water dumped in front of them using beer steins.

the other two players on the team who has the rock, try to slurp up the beer with cocktail straws.

ummm......cough Embarassed

maybe not.....

**whatever**

Zombie - Sep 16, 2004 - 04:22 PM
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Heretic, everybody knows that Blood Curling has 4 players per team!

40KVet - Sep 16, 2004 - 04:24 PM
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Heretic or not, any game that can be played with a took is a good game.

Colin - Sep 16, 2004 - 10:55 PM
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40KVet wrote:

Heretic or not, any game that can be played with a took is a good game.

Took??!! You must be a yank, everyone up hear should know it's spelled, Toque!

Zombie - Sep 16, 2004 - 11:52 PM
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Actually it's tuque and it comes from the French tuque. But i think that the word toque is also acceptable in English, although less appropriate.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 17, 2004 - 04:37 AM
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40KVet wrote:

Heretic or not, any game that can be played with a took is a good game.

"A TOOK!"

Hardy-Har-Har-HAR! Laughing

Bikerbob - Sep 17, 2004 - 07:48 AM
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Anyone doing anything tonight? Friday?

Just wondering.... BB or drinking... Love to meet some of these people who would travel thousands of miles to play this game!!

James

Melifaxis - Sep 17, 2004 - 08:04 AM
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Have fun gentlemen!

USA! USA! USA!

Bring it home OMM Very Happy

Da_Scum - Sep 17, 2004 - 09:26 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:

Have fun gentlemen!

USA! USA! USA!

Bring it home OMM Very Happy

All they'll bring home is heart-ache and hang-overs, but a lot of Europe's points, so that's a noble cause. Laughing

Hoshi_Komi - Sep 20, 2004 - 01:07 PM
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Made it back home safely with only being pulled over by a cop once Smile

talked my way outta of a ticket Smile

Had a great time!!!! Only lost to the eventual winner, Ben!! ==damn the rain, and tied Grumbledook! so good tourney Smile

thanks for everything Anthony and crew Smile

twist - Sep 20, 2004 - 01:14 PM
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Glad you made it home safe and sound! It was a great tourney, and a great group of coaches! I lost to Ben too... Kolja as well! Laughing

For anyone interested, the results are here:
http://ca.games-workshop.com/news/cn/events/spike/home.htm

Pine Glade Freshness - the official stepping stone of greatness! Rolling Eyes

Darkson - Sep 20, 2004 - 01:41 PM
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Wow! Results up online already! The UK GW Events team could obviously learn something there!

Hoshi_Komi - Sep 20, 2004 - 03:06 PM
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Just a note: those people who got 15 sportsmanship points I bet all played the guy who left so we weren't a bunch of gits.

6 people with 15 pts.... Smile

so everyone who was supposed to play him lost 3 pts.

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 20, 2004 - 04:17 PM
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To be honest, since most people were giving out 3 points we just filled in his points with 3s as well. I don't think it should really make too much difference... seemed like the fair thing to do though.

Hoshi_Komi - Sep 20, 2004 - 07:57 PM
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just seemed odd. I personally think the sportsmanship points are silly for bloodbowl tourney's. Because it's easier to find the most unsporting player than sporting player--everyone is usually very sporting.

Just a point for future I think that the tiebreakers should have been TD diff + CAS diff. TD diff favors one type of team more than others.

still great job Anthony.

Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 20, 2004 - 08:53 PM
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Well, home again in the land of sunshine or hurricanes...

Will post more tomorrow - just wanted to tell everyone, new friends and old, that the tourney was one of the most satisfying of the year. Great that McSnaga and Grum made it over, leaving with No. American points in tow... great that the all-TBBF final reaffirmed the excellence of their league and organization... great that GW-Canada pointed the way for the other national divisions to follow, with a fun atmosphere and a good time for the coaches...

Well done Anthony and Ian!!! Congratulations to our well-deserving champion, Ben - showed everyone that dancing skaven are here to stay...

Hope and trust that everyone has arrived home safely and fired up for some more BB soon, with the Deathbowl, Underworld, and Baltimore GT on the way...

-OMM

Grumbledook - Sep 21, 2004 - 05:49 AM
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just made it home

need sleep!

jaylazer - Sep 21, 2004 - 08:00 AM
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Rob and I got home safely yesterday too.

This was one of my favorite tournaments so far. I had 4 great games (OMM, JKL, Zombie and Twist) all of which made me play my best BB.

It was great to meet so many new coaches and add a few more faces to some screen names.

BUD - Sep 21, 2004 - 08:09 AM
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Glad everybody made it home safely, thanks for supporting the SPIKE! you guys, hope to see you all at some other tournaments throughout the year and maybe this time I won't tie 50% of my games... I guess my Dwarves should really sit down from tourny's for a while.

well, 4 weeks and the infamous Wood Elves will make their appearance trying to claim what is rightfully theirs (if it weren't for some sporting backstabbing in the final game).

oh ya, 1 question for Anthony or whoever does the NAF stuff, when do the changes to rankings change? Not that it will really make a difference for me with 2 wins and 1 loss and all the rest being ties! grr...

Grumbledook - Sep 21, 2004 - 08:14 AM
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king of blood bowl huh

Trog - Sep 21, 2004 - 09:11 AM
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Sionis and I got back last night around 10 pm CST. 30 hours in the car over 4 days makes for a sore tailbone.

Thanks to everyone for the great event and the awesome hospitality.

Going up against 5 straight TBBFers was quite the "fun" experience. Shocked

Thanks again for the tourney. Oh, almost forgot, Anthony don't forget my shirt buddy. Wink

Da_Scum - Sep 21, 2004 - 09:50 AM
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BUD wrote:

Not that it will really make a difference for me with 2 wins and 1 loss and all the rest being ties! grr...

Ergo Da Maggot Scum AND for once Clan-Skaven came out over your lads! Laughing

JUSTICE!!! Worship

Bikerbob - Sep 21, 2004 - 10:29 AM
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Just wanted to hop on and say thanks to Anthony and Ian et all..

This was my first Tourny NAF or otherwise and I had a great time.

Played quite well.. HECK I played Jon in the 6th round.. stunned me!! (three times to my gutter runner in fact) Rolling Eyes

and found that my Skaven at my skill level were no match for those Chaos Dwarves with Guard!!! Worship

Great meeting all of you.. Thanks again to Old Man Monkey for your generosity! (Both on and off the pitch - a great sport in my book!)

Looking forward to running into most of you again soon I hope!!

James

Honeycomb_Kid - Sep 21, 2004 - 11:37 AM
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I had a great time as well. Everybody was really sporting and I had tons of fun in all my matches. Great deal of thanks to those who came from afar - you show the lazy bums (like me) up with your dedication. Wish I got to play OMM in the sixth match though - it would've been hilarious to frustrate his desire to crush me once again, coming up all the way from FL and all! He he.

Sorry I couldn't hang out with y'all afterwards - my gf was giving me grief.

I'll see y'all at the Deathbowl.

Neil

BUD - Sep 21, 2004 - 01:00 PM
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Quote:

king of blood bowl huh

well... no i'm not. But I thought it was fitting considering i'm using the Budweiser logo...

Trog - Sep 21, 2004 - 02:49 PM
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This Buds for you!

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 21, 2004 - 03:25 PM
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gken1 wrote:

Yeah I'm still not sure of the best way to do sportsmanship. This one was OK I suppose but it still isn't clear enough. Part of the problem is that everyone has a different notion of what bad sportsmanship is - ie. calling IPs, stalling, looking up rules.

I still think TD diff is the best way to break ties because it rewards both offence and defence. Most teams that can dish out the beatings can take them too which is why I only ever use it as a secondary tie breaker.

Zombie - Sep 21, 2004 - 03:35 PM
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I proposed something for sportsmanship after the tournament, and the guys i was talking to thought it was a good idea. Have people give scores of 1 to 3, but they can't give more than one 3 and one 1.

This should be enough for an above average sportsman to stand out from the crowd (and similarly for a below average one). It also avoids the problem of people giving all 3s most of the time.

KarlLagerbottom - Sep 21, 2004 - 03:40 PM
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Thanks to Anthony and Ian for organizing a great event...it was alot of fun and everything ran smoothly. One suggestion for next time: More security at the awards table. Very Happy

Be sure to make some sort of Gob-Proof Security System. Orc

I enjoyed the six games I had, (Even the 5-0 drubbing that I took at the hands of McSnagga's Skaven.) and look forward to facing you all again at future events.

@ OMM, Cyberhare, & gken1...you guys can only dodge me for so long. Very Happy

@ Clan-Skaven...Congrats on the three-win day at Spike!, but don't think that I'll forget about the challange. Be ready at Death Bowl!!! Very Happy

@ JayLazer...Thanks for making it possible for me to attend...I appreciated the lift. (But still look forward to pounding the prissy WoodElves as soon as possible. Very Happy

)

For anyone else who cares...the Humans are getting temporarily shelved in favor for their smaller in stature, if not larger in appetite, cousins. The 'Flings will be taking the field in DeathBowl 2.
Pow

Beware The Squirtville Belly Busters!!! Pow

Melifaxis - Sep 22, 2004 - 02:45 AM
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Congrats Ben!! Very Happy

KarlLagerbottom - Sep 22, 2004 - 06:52 AM
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AnthonyTBBF,

Now that I hear your thoughts on why TD's are used as the tie braker, I see where you are coming from...but it still favors the fast teams the way it stands. Why not use TD for/TD Against differential? That adds another step for the TO to figure out, but percenatges do more to take away any racial advantage more then straight-TDs do.

Just a thought...
-Rob

If you look at how the Spike! turned out...Torg was the only team to have beaten the eventual champion. Furthermore, I believe that he only gave up 2 TDs in the whole process. If I am remembering that correctly, that's a pretty tough pill to swallow to have not made the final at a point when you are undefeated AND won and tied against the teams "ahead" of you in the only head-to-head match-ups.

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 22, 2004 - 07:22 AM
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TD differential was used as the tie-breaker, not TDs scored.

Kolja_TBBF - Sep 22, 2004 - 07:23 AM
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I believe TD differential was what was used. Tds for - Tds against.

Ben, Torg (who I assume is Todd?) and myself were all tied for points after round 5. Ben was way ahead on TD differential and I was ahead of Torg. Knowing the system, I had taken some risks throughout the day to get TDs, even when the games were already won and all I would have to do is stall.

Kolja

Spazzfist - Sep 22, 2004 - 08:24 AM
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Anthony,

Similar to what Zombie was saying, I believe that if people rated everyone from one to three, but then chose one person who they felt was the best sport of the lot, (hard, I know seeing as you were all such a great bunch!) but by choosing the one they felt was the best, this would certainly narrow down the field, if not determine the overall "best".

I believe that a similar system was implemented at the Conflict, no?

Spazz

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 22, 2004 - 08:28 AM
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Not sure, but yeah Zombie was talking about his idea after the Spike and I think it would work well. I will try and convince Ian to do it for the Canadian Open.

KarlLagerbottom - Sep 22, 2004 - 08:49 AM
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AnthonyTBBF, Ok...differential was used...fair enough. Very Happy

Kolja_TBBF, I did not realize that this was published...knowing full well that I was not going to be anywhere near the top I didn't even bother to look into this. But now I know that I'm armed with this info, the 'Flings will be hell bent for TD's so that they make it into the DeathBowl!!! Very Happy

-Rob

Trog - Sep 22, 2004 - 12:18 PM
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To be perfectly honest, this being my first tourney, I didn't THINK I'd be in contention in the end. And I didn't fully digest the implications concerning the tie-breakers. Hindsight being 20/20, I definately would have done some things different in my games, but alas...I'll chalk it up to a learning experience.

Still doesn't do anything to diminish my sincere gratitude to the hosts for their hospitality. Smile

Thanks again.

AnthonyTBBF - Sep 22, 2004 - 12:55 PM
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Put it this way, we'll all be scared silly when we are matched up with you at the next one... Very Happy

That's a pretty impressive performance for your first event.

Zombie - Sep 22, 2004 - 01:23 PM
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I don't know... I won my first tournament and nobody was scared of me at the Spike! Embarassed

jaylazer - Sep 22, 2004 - 01:51 PM
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Zombie wrote:

I don't know... I won my first tournament and nobody was scared of me at the Spike! Embarassed

I don't know ... I was a little scared when you tried to steal my box of Chez-its. Very Happy

twist - Sep 22, 2004 - 01:52 PM
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Thats cuz we know it was a fluke... Laughing

Ben - Sep 22, 2004 - 02:23 PM
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yah..remember we let you win that one. It still sounds weird, even now. 3 TBBF'ers and 1 other guy make it to the final and we let the other guy win. WEIRD.

BUD - Sep 22, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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especially when 1 of the TBBF'ers had 2 TD's in the first half and it never even made it into OT ... dumbasses, i'll never leave that alone!

Hoshi_Komi - Sep 22, 2004 - 10:14 PM
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I think a problem that came up in the end was that kojila, Ben, torg and I were the top 4. torg had already played ben and kojila but Ben was #1 with TD diff. So I played Ben and kojila/torg played the next ranked players. If I had played torg and ben/kojila played each other there probably wouldn't have been a need for a tie breaker. But it doesn't matter to me since I was out anyway. More for Torg---just a crappy way to get knocked out and it didn't make me beating him in the final game any fun since he was "out of it".

Ken

Zombie - Sep 22, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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BUD wrote:

especially when 1 of the TBBF'ers had 2 TD's in the first half and it never even made it into OT ... dumbasses, i'll never leave that alone!

It did go into OT. That's when i scored my 3rd TD. It took minimum 3 turns for me to score a TD, so it would have been impossible for me to score 3 in the 2nd half alone. The game ended after 3 turns of OT.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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Ok, I thought I posted this already (maybe I forgot to hit the "submit" button)

The really funny/annoying thing about the SPIKE was, I had the best Sunday Total (190 out of a possible 210) "pretty friggin awsome!"

Too bad that my rank after my Saturday games put me in a 5 way tie for last place with 60 out of a possible 210 points!

Not complaining, I had a great time!

This was the best tourney I ever had so again .... "I'm not complaining!" Laughing

Its odd that I could go from one extreme to the other in just one day!

Zombie - Sep 22, 2004 - 11:30 PM
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Well, that's a good way of getting max points on Sunday. Lose all games on Saturday to ensure that you're matched up against lower-end coaches!

Clan_Skaven - Sep 22, 2004 - 11:31 PM
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Zombie wrote:

Well, that's a good way of getting max points on Sunday. Lose all games on Saturday to ensure that you're matched up against lower-end coaches!

That did cross my mind, but trust me that was not the case or plan by any means!

Colin - Sep 23, 2004 - 12:37 AM
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gken1 wrote:

Hey, I was never there and you have never beaten me in a game of BB!!
Damned people stealing my nickname Evil or Very Mad

Trog - Sep 23, 2004 - 07:03 AM
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One slip of the fingers and everybody gets 'fused.

Torg didn't play at the Spike! this year, while I (Trog) did.

HEHE

Kolja_TBBF - Sep 23, 2004 - 07:38 AM
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Yeah, what he said.

But next time I won't go so easy on you and I will get more than a draw. Mr. Green

AnthonyTBBF wrote:

Put it this way, we'll all be scared silly when we are matched up with you at the next one... Very Happy

That's a pretty impressive performance for your first event.

Kolja_TBBF - Sep 23, 2004 - 07:43 AM
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And who is this Kojila fella? Razz

Torg wrote:

gken1 wrote:

Hey, I was never there and you have never beaten me in a game of BB!!
Damned people stealing my nickname Evil or Very Mad

Trog - Sep 23, 2004 - 08:25 AM
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Hehe....you TALK a big story when you're 983.4 miles away.

Clan_Skaven - Sep 27, 2004 - 05:09 AM
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Yeah just feel lucky ya all never faced me on Sunday I was an unstopable Machine!

(ok maybe not that good, but not too shabby! Wink

)

McSnaga - Sep 27, 2004 - 06:49 AM
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For those who don't use TBB - my photos are here:

http://lair.bearsfaction.com/spike/spike.html

Paul H

twist - Oct 01, 2004 - 12:27 AM
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Get those NAF rankings going! BEN! Isn't that your duty? Razz

Clan_Skaven - Oct 01, 2004 - 01:16 AM
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twist wrote:

Get those NAF rankings going! BEN! Isn't that your duty? Razz

Now now, lets not get hastey!

I'm sure there are very good reasons why the SPIKE results are not in.

I just hope they are in before I go to the Death-Bowl. Smile

Ben - Oct 01, 2004 - 07:48 AM
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Yes it is my duty but there is a lot of Naf information i still need in order to complete the tournament entry. Should not be much longer.

Your NAF Representative Laughing

Mr.Ben

Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 08:49 AM
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Any update on a Norse thrower Mr. Ben?

Ben - Oct 01, 2004 - 09:13 AM
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I figured the deadline was way up. Currently i'm working on the miniature for Brian's Deathbowl he had asked me to paint. I could paint the Thrower at the same time if you still want it. I have time now. Let me know.

Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 09:27 AM
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The 3rd deadline just passed so I'll have to pull your name from the draw. If you want to paint it so that the mini will be included on the team as part of NAF history that's cool, but it's really up to you. Very Happy

Congrats again on your Spike! win and hope to get revenge against your orcs/skaven at another tourney soon Very Happy