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AnthonyTBBF - Nov 17, 2003 - 03:46 PM
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The 2004 Canadian Open is coming!

In the past few years the Toronto Blood Bowl Federation has hosted the Orion Cup at the Orion gaming convention, the longest running BB tournament in Canada (and North America for that matter) and has built up a reputation for being the finest BB tourney in the Great White North. We also hosted a smaller tourney last year called the Pandemonium Cup as a part of the Pandemonium gaming convention.

This year we are doing something a bit different. The TBBF and CanadaBloodBowl.com are pleased to announce the 2004 Canadian Open. We will be running this event at the Pandemonium con instead of Orion and will replace both the Orion Cup and the Pandemonium Cup. This awesome tournament will determine who will become the 2004 Canadian Open Blood Bowl Champion! We want to make this the biggest BB event in Canada and we're expecting coaches to come from all over Canada and US (and even beyond) again this year.

The tournament will take place on February 21 & 22, 2004 in Toronto at the Inn on the Park. We will use a similar system to past Orion Cup events (basically the same system used at GenCon and the Underworld Cup). Rules and registration information will be available on CanadaBloodBowl.com shortly.

If you have any questions please feel free to contact myself or the Canadian NTO.

See you in February! And if you're on the Spanish Team, you'd better practice if you want to beat the Canadians! Wink
Zombie - Nov 17, 2003 - 06:14 PM
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If i can find a job between now and then, you can count me in!

By the way, if anyone knows of a good job opening for a software engineer graduating in December... I don't care if it's in Toronto or anywhere around the world for that matter! (Except the USA, i don't want to live there.)
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 17, 2003 - 06:22 PM
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Sounds good, I am sure the guys will want some revenge after the Death Bowl Wink
Melifaxis - Nov 18, 2003 - 05:16 AM
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      Zombie69 wrote:
Except the USA, i don't want to live there
Stop bashing my country!! King
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 18, 2003 - 05:21 AM
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I will when you stop losing all the time, not that I really prevented it much lately Wink
Xtreme - Nov 18, 2003 - 05:41 AM
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I don't think it is so much us losing all the time as it is everyone else won't stop winning. Laughing
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 18, 2003 - 05:59 AM
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Yes that can be a problem!

Do you guys think you can make the Open? We usually have a bunch of Americans up ever since Neo started coming, in fact last year at Orion I think we had our biggest US turnout at around 5.
Khankill - Nov 18, 2003 - 06:05 AM
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WOW! that moves up my time table a bit. I will try to round up as many as I can and make it. Can't confirm anything yet.
Melifaxis - Nov 18, 2003 - 06:19 AM
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I'll also give it a shot. Probably won't know for sure until the new year though.
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 18, 2003 - 01:33 PM
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Yeah the reason we decided to do it at Pandemonium is because it was just too hard to find a decent date for it without getting in the way of other events. There will be 2 BB tourneys in Toronto this year counting Spike!, no point in hogging up time for others to do something.
neoliminal - Nov 18, 2003 - 02:46 PM
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Can I come?
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 18, 2003 - 03:23 PM
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Yes please, it wouldn't be the same without you gunning for second place. Wink
Xtreme - Nov 18, 2003 - 06:21 PM
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How long did the drive to Ann Arbor take? I should be able to estimate my time from that. Still trying to figure out if I can go. Anything fun for the Wife in Toronto, this would be our first trip to the Great White North.
Clan_Skaven - Nov 18, 2003 - 07:24 PM
Post subject: I'll try & make it !!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey I'll try & attend, it will be my 2nd tournament. Where can I find the info? As in what rules will be used, or what teams will be legal? I tried to link into CanadaBloodBowl.com but found nothing there.

I have my Skaven team ready, but I was pondering the thought of either a Chaos team or a even the "Chaos Pact"

Any info would be great.

Thanks

-Rod-
Clan_Skaven - Nov 18, 2003 - 08:48 PM
Post subject: Re: I'll try & make it !!!!!!!!!!!!
      BB_Bandits wrote:
I tried to link into CanadaBloodBowl.com but found nothing there


Ok nevermind I found it.
twist - Nov 18, 2003 - 10:11 PM
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Though the Pact would be nice to play, they aren't quite legal. If they were, we'd all play them! Laughing
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 18, 2003 - 10:23 PM
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I am working on the rules pack at the moment, it should be up this week.

Chaos Pact won't be allowed but there may be a couple of new teams depending on what the BBRC comes up with!

BTW the drive to Ann Arbor was 4.5 hours from Toronto.
twist - Nov 18, 2003 - 11:50 PM
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4 if Brian drives. Shocked Crazy Quebecer. Wink
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 19, 2003 - 06:06 AM
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3.5 if he is following an OPP cruiser Wink
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 19, 2003 - 03:41 PM
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I uploaded the tournament rules to CanadaBloodBowl.com, get them here!

Please let me know if you see any errors or have any questions.
Zombie - Nov 19, 2003 - 05:47 PM
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The points don't make sense. You get exactly the same amount of points if you lose by one TD as if you draw!
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 19, 2003 - 05:55 PM
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This is the system we've been using both here and in the US for a couple of years now. It works.
Zombie - Nov 19, 2003 - 06:02 PM
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Do you have OT? It doesn't say so in the tournament rules. I'm assuming you're not using the official OT rules, with a D6 rolled at the end of the first OT to determine the winner. That would suck in a tournament!

If there isn't any OT, and you're losing by 1 point, then there's no incentive at all to try and tie the game. If there is OT, than at least you get a shot at the win, so i guess it makes sense a little...

Another thing. I assume that the entry fee is in Canadian dollars? In the last page about the NAF, you should either say that it costs $15 or that it costs US $10, otherwise people will think that's CAN $10.

Everything else seems all right!
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 19, 2003 - 06:58 PM
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You are right, no OT. We are real men in Canada, none of this shoot out stuff. Wink

The fees are in Canadian dollars as well.

I think the incentive is there to try and win by 2 points and get the extra bonus... John can probably explain it better. I am all for hearing other opinions though.
Deathwing - Nov 19, 2003 - 07:21 PM
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      Zombie69 wrote:
The points don't make sense. You get exactly the same amount of points if you lose by one TD as if you draw!


Without looking at this ruleset right now, there's the usual points on this to consider.

Less 'dead' games in that coaches down by 2 TDs still have something to fight for in terms of tourney points, therefore hopefully keeping more games alive for more people for longer. If you're losing by one there's no incentive to tie the game? How about your NAF CR?

I also believe it encourages attacking play which is always good for separation. If it's 2-2 late in the game you've got nothing to lose (in terms of tourney points) by going for the 3-2 win at the risk of turning it over and losing 2-3. Coaches are less liable to settle for a draw if that's an option.

I know a lot of people hate a draw counting the same points wise as a loss by 1 on principle, but I can see some merit in it. That sort of system has certainly affected some decisions of mine in the past in close games
Tim - Nov 19, 2003 - 08:12 PM
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      AnthonyTBBF wrote:
I think the incentive is there to try and win by 2 points and get the extra bonus... John can probably explain it better. I am all for hearing other opinions though.


What i didn't like about that system is that it rewards the 2-0 stall. So if i'm up 1-0 and have the ball and have the advantage in CAS and men on pitch there's no reward for running it and trying another drive. (Anthony, you know what i'm talking about, not stalling cost me 20 points in our game, well worth the fun though Wink )

I'd add a +5 pt. bonus for any additional point of TD difference. So i get some reward for putting my +10 blowout bonus on the line.

I'd also give only 10 or maybe 15 base pts. for a loss, so a close loss will be 20 to 25 and still worse than a draw if i don't manage to get "But we hurt them!".

I'm also a big fan of special prices like most touchdowns, most cas, best stunty, best comeback, best painted, best sportsman instead of an all-in-one-ranking with prizes from 1 to 7. It gives coaches outside the top rankings something to really play for in the last round.

Of course that's only my opinion ...
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 19, 2003 - 08:35 PM
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      Tim wrote:
What i didn't like about that system is that it rewards the 2-0 stall. So if i'm up 1-0 and have the ball and have the advantage in CAS and men on pitch there's no reward for running it and trying another drive.


There is incentive to win by as much as you can. I don't know if John made everyone aware of this but TD difference breaks ties in points, so it is important to score as much as you can.

We will have extra awards at the Open, last year we had Best Painted, Most Sportsmanlike, Wooden Spoon, etc.
Khankill - Nov 20, 2003 - 09:13 AM
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I just finished reading the rules for the tourney, Did you leave out the "You should see the other guys" bonus (tie or loss, but caused the most casualties) intentionally or as an oversite? I like the tourney provided D6's.
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 09:41 AM
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We call that the "Bag o' Wheat" bonus, it's a TBBf tradition Wink

I heard a rumour that there might be some Spanish Team presence...! That would be cool but I hope they don't feel we are bad hosts if we lay the smack down on them Very Happy
Khankill - Nov 20, 2003 - 10:55 AM
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      2004 Canadian open rules pack wrote:
"Bag o' Wheat" bonus (won, and caused more casualties) = +10


Good, from the above statement it appears you have to win the game to get the bonus. Since that is not the case, you may want to change the wording a bit.

Mike
Tojurub - Nov 20, 2003 - 11:06 AM
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Just bring on these Spaniards Cool .....my dwarves are the only team Xavi didn't beat during the Chaos Cup with his Welfs.....actually he only tied the game because of the stupid audience throwing the ball to his elf standing next to the endzone in the 8th turn/2n half. Mad

On a side note: I don't think that the same points for a close loss or a tie keeping the "winning" team from going for more points or even the "losing team" from being satiesfied with the score. I think it's inthe nature of every player to "hurt" the opponent whereever possible and take pride in not letting the other team take the full points with 'em....(right Ben? Wink ) And sure, if somebody wants to stall a game so what: 1st he needs to position his team in a way to stall successfully (and yes, there are skulls and 1s to roll for both sides!!), 2nd you can give him s**t about it so he really feels bad and he fianally gives up. But on small tourmanents I think most people go for the fun first and secondly for the title (stalling is not fun for both sides, at least not for more than 2 turns)

Conclusion: I like the way the points are distributed for win-tie-loss!
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 11:39 AM
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Good, from the above statement it appears you have to win the game to get the bonus. Since that is not the case, you may want to change the wording a bit.


Ah good point, I will change it.
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 11:42 AM
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stalling is not fun for both sides, at least not for more than 2 turns


I agree. In my game with Tim, he could have stalled all day and walked away with max points but he gave me a chance to play the game. In the end the game was more exciting, and I got lucky with some rolls and got max points myself. I really appreciated the opportunity.
Clan_Skaven - Nov 20, 2003 - 12:25 PM
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Spanairds or no Spanairds, it does not matter! Had I attended that tourney the Spanairds would have felt the wrath of my Blighted Bloodshed Bandits! Twisted Evil

On an upside they can still have thier chance, yes it is true my team will make their 2nd NAF tourney appearance, at the Canadian Open!

Besides I have to bring my coach ranking up, my current 360th & a 145.81, just isn't cutting it. Embarassed Confused Sad

I'd also like to play that TBBF chap again from the Toronto Games Day Touney, he played W.Elves (they were called Willow Tree Dwellers) or something close to that! Well I must have my revenge match, my 5-1 loss was pathetic, & I won 2 pitch invasions, & at the very best combinened only K.O'd one wood elf, & stunned 6 0r 7 others.

Then there is the other chap who had the goblin team who i thought i should have beat, but only tied 1-1, never helped that i had more than half of my team in the K.O'd box at the end of the game.

All & all my NAF tourney record is W=1, L=2, T=1
But vs other NAF coaches I'm only W=0, L=1, T=1

Ok so maybe my team isn't a great threat after all, maybe I boasted my team's credibility, a tad too much...... or maybe the Spanairds would have wiped the field clean with my fuzzy little Rats. No matter what I will be at the Canadian open, & My Rat Ogre will be thier too, will I get some justice to my squad's lack luster affair last August? Or will I get put in my place again this time around?

I will say one thing though, I am glad this tourney is the Canadian "Open" if their was any ranking to do with it, I'd not even be skilled high enough to sell peanuts at the game!

All & all I look forward to playing you all, & let this be a challenge....(or a really stupid gesture if nothing else Laughing )..... Look out for my Skaven, & always remember (read signature).................
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 12:41 PM
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Cool! Are you bringing any of your league mates with you?
Clan_Skaven - Nov 20, 2003 - 12:55 PM
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As far as I know so far just me, But my Buddy who is also an NAF member & who had his W.Elves at the touney, wants to go as well. He's gonna be bringing C.Dwarves this time.

As far as the rest of the league only the Orc team would be close enough to having his team painted to attend, (not sure if he'd come) all others probably not.

besides its a rather small group, 6 guys & 1 gal.
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 12:57 PM
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The more the merrier!

I find tournaments are a good way to get teams painted, it gives you a deadline to work towards.
Clan_Skaven - Nov 20, 2003 - 01:01 PM
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I called in sick before the Toronto GamesDay tourney, just to get caught up. Yeah I'm a BB geek i know!
Melifaxis - Nov 20, 2003 - 01:39 PM
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      AnthonyTBBF wrote:
The more the merrier!

I find tournaments are a good way to get teams painted, it gives you a deadline to work towards.


The NAF Legacy deadline is 11/30 Very Happy
Sorry, too tempting to resist
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 20, 2003 - 01:46 PM
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LOL, I hear ya Wink
CyberHare - Nov 20, 2003 - 05:54 PM
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      AnthonyTBBF wrote:
3.5 if he is following an OPP cruiser Wink


Hey we got back alive didn't we Wink Besides the cop was the one tailing me and trying to keep pace. He knew a good driver when he saw one Smile

CyberHare
Xtreme - Nov 23, 2003 - 01:03 AM
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Alright I am about 80% sure I will be making the trip with my wife. So if KhanKill can make it we can have the matchup we were going to try for at the Underworld cup. As the top two Human coaches in North America.

Had a quick question about the painting rules as far as properly representing a race could someone use a shadowforge nun team with an elf roster?
AnthonyTBBF - Nov 23, 2003 - 02:12 PM
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Hmm that is a tough one... personally I think you should go with Amazons for that team, but that being said as long as it's "fluffy" and the positions are clear I guess I don't mind.
Zombie - Nov 23, 2003 - 02:34 PM
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Amazons or humans methinks. For elves, you'd be better off using Shadowforge's new elf team.
Xtreme - Nov 23, 2003 - 05:36 PM
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You can't really tell they if they are elves or not, their ears are all covered. No biggie I was just curious in case teh wife decides she wants to play in the tournie she uses the Nuns in our league. But she like them to have more of an agile playing style. But she hasn't decided if she will be playing yet so it doesn't matter. I will be bringing my humans.
Zombie - Nov 23, 2003 - 06:19 PM
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Ever seen a 300 pound elf?
Xtreme - Nov 23, 2003 - 07:08 PM
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Ok you got me there. Maybe she just has a lot of pading on.
Colin - Dec 05, 2003 - 03:42 PM
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I may be able to make this one but I would need to find someone to share a room with. Any out-of -towners out there looking to share a room?? (have to be a non-smoker).
Clan_Skaven - Dec 05, 2003 - 04:32 PM
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If none of my buddies from Niagara Falls, are attending, I'll split a room with ya. I'm a non smoker as well. I do however play Skaven! Twisted Evil If your ok with that then I see no problems.
Colin - Dec 05, 2003 - 08:49 PM
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What! Skaven-rat bastards! Very Happy

No problem, just wondering how long and when you were planning on getting a room. Since I have to come in from Alberta, I will have to get one from friday night. I presume that you are close enough to drive, so you will be leaving early sat morning. Anyway I guess we will see what happens (when will you know if any of your buddies are going?).
Clan_Skaven - Dec 05, 2003 - 09:09 PM
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I'll ask my buddies, if they do not give me an answer right away, I'll make a commitment to you to get a room, I dont care which hotell. If you can make the resavation, I'll pay you when I arrive. I'd probably take a bus Friday Night (I dont drive). Are you flying in?

Rod
Colin - Dec 05, 2003 - 10:08 PM
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Yes I am flying. I am waiting to hear from a friend who might be flying up as well, but he's not sure if he will be able to get the time off or not (depends on his work load). Anyway I guess we still have some time to figure this all out.
Zombie - Dec 05, 2003 - 11:44 PM
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Not sure yet if i'm going, but if i do, i'll need to get a hotel room Friday and Saturday night as well. Need to see whether i can get the money first.
AnthonyTBBF - Dec 06, 2003 - 03:20 PM
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I think this is shaping up to be our biggest tourney yet! I'm really looking forward to it.
neoliminal - Dec 07, 2003 - 02:49 PM
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I hope I have a job by the. Wink
twist - Dec 17, 2003 - 10:34 PM
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I am too, Anthony! Its at the hotel on Eglinton st. again?
Cervidal - Dec 19, 2003 - 09:41 AM
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Neo - lemme know if you want more company along to this tourney. I will finally be able to make it to the Great White North to game.
Mobius - Dec 22, 2003 - 02:49 PM
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I'm considering making the trip from Ottawa, to give the Torontonian teams a beating similar to what the Senators routinely dish out to the Leafs. (Note: This taunt would have been more effective if the Leafs weren't on their unfortunate winning streak).

I'll see if anyone else from here is fanatical enough to make the trip.

- Mobius
Old_Man_Monkey - Dec 22, 2003 - 03:09 PM
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(oops - Tampa drummed Philly, not the Leafs!)
AnthonyTBBF - Dec 23, 2003 - 07:19 AM
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Senators routinely dish out to the Leafs


What league have you been watching? Wink
Clan_Skaven - Dec 23, 2003 - 07:32 AM
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...........................go Bruins!.................
Mobius - Dec 23, 2003 - 12:18 PM
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Senators routinely dish out to the Leafs


What league have you been watching? Wink


The regular season.

Ottawa only loses only to Toronto in the important playoff games. Similarly, I will only lose to the Toronto Blood Bowl teams, in the important tournament matches.

- Mobius
Tutenkharnage - Dec 23, 2003 - 01:05 PM
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A Canadian BB thread has degenerated into taunts about "soccer on skates"? How unpredictable Wink

-Chet
Old_Man_Monkey - Dec 23, 2003 - 08:18 PM
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"...and the Lightning pull into Boston and take a point."
CyberHare - Dec 23, 2003 - 11:32 PM
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      Tutenkharnage wrote:
A Canadian BB thread has degenerated into taunts about "soccer on skates"? How unpredictable Wink

-Chet



Don't paint all of us with the same brush. Give them all a piece of rubber and maybe they'll stop fighing over it. Smile Actually no. Children always think that the toys their playmate has is better than their own Shocked Laughing
Ben - Dec 24, 2003 - 06:26 AM
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I got an early christmas present and in it's the maple leafs in first place OVERALL BABY!!! Oh yah.
Everyone have a merry x-mas and play some safe bloodbowl over the holidays.

Ben
AnthonyTBBF - Dec 24, 2003 - 07:09 AM
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Booyeah!!!!

Ahem, back to Blood Bowl Wink
Colin - Jan 03, 2004 - 11:34 AM
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Unfortunately it doesn't look like I'm going to be able to make it to the Open in Feb., so doesn't look like I'll be needing someone to share a room (but you never know, things might change).
AnthonyTBBF - Jan 05, 2004 - 05:44 AM
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Booooo that sucks.
Thrudd - Jan 25, 2004 - 09:11 AM
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While I plan on getting my ass kicked again, I havent got anything better to do.

Coach Thrudd
Zombie - Jan 25, 2004 - 01:03 PM
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Latest news from my side is that i won't have the money. Unless i can pay for the whole trip (gas, hotel) from selling BB figs (i've got teams of pretty much all races to sell), then there's no way i can make it. Sad
Rash - Jan 26, 2004 - 09:10 PM
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How far in advance are things like registering handled?
twist - Jan 27, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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Rash,
For the convention itself (Pandamonium), you can register in advance, or pay at the door. For the BB tournament, I'm sure Anthony and Ian would like to know a bit in advance, to know how much space we are going to need. So if you are not going to pre-reg for the Con, I'd suggest emailing Anthony before the tournament with your intentions.

Hope to see you there! Smile
Xtreme - Jan 29, 2004 - 12:32 AM
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Just booked my room, but won't be pre reg. I'll pay at the door, see everyone in a coupe of weeks. Very Happy
Clan_Skaven - Jan 29, 2004 - 08:13 AM
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From Niagara Falls I know 3 of us maybe 4 will be attending. Yes the NFBBL will be represented. Here are the teams...

Orcawa Centinalz (ORC)

Nar-Shadda Slavers (CHAOS DWARF) NAF member

Hell Pit Wildrats (SKAVEN) NAF member

Tackling Dead (UNDEAD or NECROMATIC, and he may not make it at all)

I'm kind of curious, do we have an a approximate amount of people that will be copeting in the tourney?

I'm hoping the Niagara Falls BloodBowl League makes a good impact in the Canadian Open. But we will see.

Commishiner of the NFBBL & Coach of the Hell Pit Wildrats;

Roderick Davidson
Ben - Jan 29, 2004 - 08:35 AM
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Not sure how many of us from the TBBF will be attending, i know i will be. Not sure which team i will be using yet, probably the orcses.
Zombie - Jan 29, 2004 - 02:43 PM
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It's decided, i'm not coming. This is not a good time for me financially, especially considering i don't even know yet how i'll manage to pay for February's rent.
Colin - Jan 29, 2004 - 03:59 PM
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You could always sell a kidney. Wink
Clan_Skaven - Jan 29, 2004 - 09:46 PM
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Argue with your landlord about the rent! You seem to do quite well arguing with whoever on here. On almost every post I see conflict your name isn't too far... your landlord has nothing on you! Laughing
Zombie - Jan 29, 2004 - 10:23 PM
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Forget it. When i say i have no money, i mean it. The only way i could attend would be to hitchhike my way to Toronto, sleep on the street and hope that no passerby will steal my Blood Bowl team.

Look out for next year though!
Clan_Skaven - Jan 29, 2004 - 10:37 PM
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Where do u live?
Zombie - Jan 29, 2004 - 11:38 PM
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Montreal.

Oh and on top of all that, i still wouldn't have paid the entry fee. Like i said, forget it.
Ben - Jan 30, 2004 - 06:31 AM
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Well then Zombie, just consider yourself lucky Wink . I wanted payback for losing to you in the Deathbowl. Maybe i'll see you in October.
Zombie - Jan 30, 2004 - 12:33 PM
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You'll definitely see me at the next Death Bowl. I'll try to make it to Spike also but can't promise anything there.
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 30, 2004 - 01:34 PM
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Hey Zombie - do you have a painted Goblin team you would part with? I'd buy one if you do, especially if that will help get you to the Canada Bowl (or pay the landlord...). PM me if you want.

-OMM
Zombie - Jan 30, 2004 - 02:20 PM
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Rent is paid. Paid only half of it, and the girl agreed it made sense since i paid all of January and only took the appartment mid-January. So that's cool. This leaves me with enough money to buy food for next week. After that, i'm in trouble.

Still have no money though.

As for your offer. In the painted department, i have 14 normal goblins, 6 wielding a secret weapon, 4 cheerleaders and 1 troll. Unpainted, i have 19 normal gobbos, 13 more with secret weapons, 3 cheerleaders and 3 trolls.

The thing is though, i hate painting and so i have to buy my painted teams on eBay. So i'd rather not part with them unless i absolutely have to. The only painted team i wouldn't mind selling is my wood elves since i have two of those, but the paint job is pretty bad. Oh, and i have 2 skaven teams as well. The paint job on those is fine. But i was talking more about unpainted teams. That i have plenty of.

Unless you wouldn't mind borrowing my painted gobbo team for the tournament and buying my unpainted one for after.

But really, i'd need to sell a lot more than one team to afford transportation, hotel and entrance!
Ben - Jan 30, 2004 - 04:49 PM
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I would love to paint a Goblin team. I like painting greenskins. If you ever get the models and you want someone to paint them, let me know. Thats if you liked my greenskins from the deathbowl.

Ben
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 30, 2004 - 05:54 PM
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OK, Ben - I want a team for a gift - I was trying to help Zombie out so he could make it to Toronto, but it sounds like he's got more important things going on. Good luck, Z and Ben, I'll email you.

-OMM
Rash - Feb 10, 2004 - 08:28 PM
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Well here is the Ft. Wayne crew additions, pending the room reservations this week:
4 NAF members, most likely a Dwarf, Amazon, Dark Elf and some random 4th team (I'm trying to get Muffin Snacktime, one of the premier Halfling teams, to show).

-The Rash
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 07:06 AM
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Awesome, glad you guys could make it!
neoliminal - Feb 11, 2004 - 07:28 AM
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I'll be there... and so will these blue orcs. Wink
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 07:33 AM
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You mean black and blue Orcs Wink
CyberHare - Feb 11, 2004 - 09:50 AM
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Oh no not the Orcs. I think the Skaven would be a much better choice Razz

I'll be over with one other. The rest bailed or don't want to go Sad That's ok more prizes for us Smile
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 09:53 AM
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I better stop hosting tournaments, everyone is scared of the Toronto boyz Wink
CyberHare - Feb 11, 2004 - 10:11 AM
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Scared?? I didn't see the Death Bowl title traveling back down the 401 Wink
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 10:25 AM
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That's because my boys are so bloodthirsty they couldn't stop fighting amongst themselves. You are lucky we let you keep that trophy Wink
CyberHare - Feb 11, 2004 - 10:30 AM
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Sigh, it's sad really when they go dillusional so young Razz

You just make sure the draw is random and I don't pull Dwarves in the first round and we'll see where that trophy ends up this year. I can almost hear the tears of sorrow now as the title drives back up the 401 to Montreal. Smile
Melifaxis - Feb 11, 2004 - 10:48 AM
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I smell a wager...
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 11:28 AM
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I'm sure Brian doesn't want to waste his money Wink
Melifaxis - Feb 11, 2004 - 11:46 AM
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There are more humiliating things than $...be creative Very Happy
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 12:06 PM
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... and I don't pull Dwarves in the first round and we'll see where that trophy ends up this year.


Wait a sec, are you asking me to fix the first round so you actually have a chance for once? Laughing
majortusk - Feb 11, 2004 - 12:43 PM
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i just moved into my new apartment, I will make it to the canada open next year for sure Smile
Xtreme - Feb 11, 2004 - 01:44 PM
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You guys don't have to worry about which group of Canadians are going to take it because it's coming back across the border with me.
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 11, 2004 - 01:55 PM
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Ha! We shall see about that!
Xtreme - Feb 11, 2004 - 02:00 PM
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Americans can win tournaments too.




I think...
Darkson - Feb 11, 2004 - 02:08 PM
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Just wait until I win the lottery. Then I'll be over like a shot and.....











Give someone an easy victory Embarassed Rolling Eyes
Melifaxis - Feb 11, 2004 - 02:26 PM
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      Xtreme wrote:
Americans can win tournaments too.




I think...


Yes!! USA!!! Worship
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 11, 2004 - 02:50 PM
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Close, X - I already said months ago that just like nearly all things Canadian, that trophy's coming south to Florida with me...! Twisted Evil

[edit] Lecavalier gets two and the Leafs get a questionable faceoff and score with :44 secs to tie, 4 - 4 ... two division leaders in a fun game!
CyberHare - Feb 11, 2004 - 07:31 PM
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      AnthonyTBBF wrote:
Wait a sec, are you asking me to fix the first round so you actually have a chance for once? Laughing


Pulling Dwarves in the first round for Amazons is almost the kiss of death. I've beaten them before in the first round but it's tough. Wouldn't you know it though that more often than not, it's dwarves I pull in the first round. That's probably because there are soooooo darn many teams of them. Sigh, just make sure it's random and my ladies will take care of the rest.
twist - Feb 13, 2004 - 01:14 AM
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OMM:
Roberts is a a god. He's such a clutch player for the Leafs. Always pulling ties or wins outta sure losses. Kinda like my wardancers! Wink
Xtreme - Feb 18, 2004 - 05:37 PM
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Going home to pack so I can get in a day early and spend some time with the lady, see everyone there. Good Luck as long as your not playing me then very very bad luck. Wink
Clan_Skaven - Feb 18, 2004 - 09:49 PM
Post subject: Wait just, wait!
Do I hear people talking about touching "my" beloved Canadian Open Trophy? Heck physically I could just walk away with it on my own, (6'8" 280lbs) with little or no opposition!

But lucky for you all I am in a very sporting mood (despite my Skaven Team's ways!) I'll let those of you think that you have a chance of touching my prize! I'll tell you this you will be lucky if you even see it, let alone touch my soon to be trophy!

Oh & don't you think I'll not be taking a Rat Ogre to the tourney! I'm not like the rest of the pant-wetters who cry a river about the new WA rule. I actually like it & ask my opponents about my Rat Ogre (oh wait they are mostly Dead!)

Yes the Hell Pit Wildrats (formerly the Blighted Bloodshed Bandits) will be at the tourney this weekend, with my Rat Ogre "RAT-X" will have a hunger for some good eating!!!

Oh and yes bring on the Wood Elves, you know who you are from the TBBF! Team name "Willow Tree Dwellers" or was it "Pillow Pee Fellers"? Whoever, I want revenge from the game we had last August.

So in close, I'd like to say it does not matter if your American, Canadian or even those stinking Spanairds! My team will be victorious! & as long as I keep telling myself that, everything will be ok!

Commissioner of the NFBBL & Coach of the Hell Pit Wildrats....

Rodererick N. Davidson

P.S. check out our web site at www.nfgh.com
Clan_Skaven - Feb 18, 2004 - 09:57 PM
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Anthony, or Ian, or whoever. Do you have an approx. number of people who will be attending the touney this weekend? like 16, 20, 40, 80, 100 or more? I'm not asking for exact numbers just an educated guess!

Thanks Rod.
Tutenkharnage - Feb 19, 2004 - 06:16 AM
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I need to put a Canadian trip on my agenda next year. Heck, I'm only 90 minutes from Toronto...

"Die, maple leafs, die!!!" --from a very cool commercial

-Chet
Ben - Feb 19, 2004 - 06:29 AM
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Well the word around the camp fire is 20. That would be my guess. Oh and boy them ratz sure sound scary. RAT X, now that is a scary name.
twist - Feb 20, 2004 - 02:06 PM
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Your trophy, Clan? At your size, you get the front line. Its easier for us shifty types to handle the trophy. Besides, my name is already on it. I gotta take it back after Kevin won it last year.... Wink

As for people from Buffalo, we all know the real reason you stay away. You're afraid... Laughing
Khankill - Feb 20, 2004 - 02:38 PM
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Xtreme, I'm pulling for you and OMM to bring that cup back to the States(Neo too if he is going). If you can't win the tourny...would you please destroy Twist for me. Cool

Thanks,
Mike

Sad I won't be able to make the trip to do it myself. Even if I did, there is a vast conspiracy to keep us from playing against one another.
twist - Feb 20, 2004 - 02:43 PM
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KHAAAAAAANNNN!!! *shaking fist*

Get your butt up here, ya lazy git, and do your own dirty work.... Laughing
Khankill - Feb 20, 2004 - 02:51 PM
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Wish I could. I will however be checking for updates as to how things are going.

/serious/Good Luck, to everyone (even Twist) and drive safely. looks like some winter weather moving in from the southwest./end serious/

TWIST MUST BE DESTROYED!!!!!!

Mike
twist - Feb 20, 2004 - 03:02 PM
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Weathers not that bad atm. It fell. It melted. Roads are good.

So, the Americans are afraid, and the Quebecers just don't know when to quit. *sigh* It should be another great tourney this year!
Zombie - Feb 20, 2004 - 03:06 PM
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      twist wrote:
the Quebecers just don't know when to quit.


I thought it was the other way around? Didn't you guys intend to be back in Montreal for this year's Death Bowl, thinking you'll have a chance this time around? Sigh, those Toronto guys never learn...
twist - Feb 20, 2004 - 03:16 PM
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LOL! Ya, we're highly competitive. Even if it means stabbing each other in the back. LOL!
Zombie - Feb 20, 2004 - 03:46 PM
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So the story has spread quite a bit i see. Is there anybody in TBBL who hasn't heard it yet? They said they'd try to keep it secret out of shame...
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 20, 2004 - 09:50 PM
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Let's just say we weren't suprised when they told us Wink
Zombie - Feb 20, 2004 - 10:00 PM
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I hope you teased them about it all the way to Toronto, they had it coming!
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 22, 2004 - 08:04 AM
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Canadian Open update!

John Lewis is in the lead after day one after winning 3 games with a perfect score. Brian St. James and Dennis Clapham are in the hunt... remember boys we named it the CANADIAN Open for a reason Wink
twist - Feb 22, 2004 - 07:06 PM
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No worries, VP man! Bud kept the cup here in Toronto! Very Happy
Colin - Feb 22, 2004 - 08:00 PM
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I wish I had been able to be there, oh well, maybe nest year, hopefully.
Clan_Skaven - Feb 22, 2004 - 08:28 PM
Post subject: Wait just a minute here!
Hold on! It's still "my" trophey Trophy .... Oh yeah I King was the one who really was supposed to be the champion!

The whole tourney was clearly fixed!
Hmmm... We the Hell Pit Wildrats were the only Skaven team in the Canadian Open, & obviously due to the mass fear of any Skaven team's success, certain "precations" were taken.

First of all "Where was all the Warpstone?" My team thrives on Warpstone inbetween games/halves/plays... ok all the time! There was none there!

Where was the Warpstone that was supposed to be supplied in our Dug-outs? I'll tell you WHY there was none... Total & complete fear of the Hell Pit Wildrats is the reason why our precious Warpstone was rudely taken from our Dug-out!

My 6 yes 6 total double skull roles killed me, (but when it counts I muster only 2 skulls in the "SKULL OFF" compitition!) Bad luck you might say? Well no it was not bad luck, nope it was the staggering effects of Warpstone withdrawl.

My only mutation was right after my last game. One of my Gutter Runners mutated by getting Very Long Legs. To bad it only came in handy for its long walk home! Now not to beat a dead horse (a very fun past time mind you Wink ), but the lack luster amount of my teams Mutations was caused by.... Can you guess?...

LACK OF WARPSTONE!!! Yes another result of the devious workings of the Canadian Open organizers!

In Close....

We the Hell Pit Wildrats will be back to take "OUR" cup next year at the Canadian Open 2005. We will look forward to vengance against those who have beaten us this past weekend, & we do look forward to new opponents (victims) Next year!...... Wait thats another thing! Can I possibly start in a Tourney where I do not play Wood Elf first, Dwarf second? Two NAF tourneys, Two identical first Two races represented in both!

Hmmm.... Coincidence?......... I wonder...

We the Hell Pit Wildrats will take home our Spike Magazine championship this Fall, & possibly if we can manage to tunnle our way to Montreal, we will bring Death & Defeat to all who oppose us at the "DeathBowl2004"

Revenge will be sweet! (Not as sweet as Warpstone, mind you), but sweet all the same!

P.S. Our Rat Ogre "RAT-X" is hungry & waiting... be afraid, be very afraid!

Roderick Davidson "Head Coach of the Hell Pit Wildrats"
40KVet - Feb 22, 2004 - 09:48 PM
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UNLIKE My fellow coach in the Niagara Falls Blood Bbowl League, Clan-MakeANYexcuseIcanMakebecauseIlostWITHmySKAVEN,
I make NO such excuses for my team...only for me and my Bull Centaur "go for it" happy self.

If only I couldhave controlled myself....a win that could have been vs Mr. Dundas.

Well that is what Rematches are for.....I look forward to it one day soon.

Oh and to Old_Man_Monkey, we had a Very good game, but Nuffle was totally against you. 1st turn blitz, 2nd1/2 Quick Snap and a Perfect Defence all in my favour.....It was a very Unlucky result for you. I'd like to have a more "Level Playing Field" type of game, to see if I can beat you without Nuffle's Help.

Cheers to all!! Congrats to Bud.

Bryan "40kvet" Carlaw.

PS.

Rod.....I beat you in our finals, and Everyone at the CDN. OPEN beat you, I think yor Skaven Need some practice. Like Picking up the Ball, Throwing the Ball, and Walking with the ball......Running comes later.
Zombie - Feb 22, 2004 - 09:52 PM
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6 double skulls in the course of a tournament is actually very lucky. You got a lot less than you would with average luck. 1 in 36 blocks is a double skull, and if you didn't make at least 36 blocks per game (even with skaven), i don't know what game you were playing but it wasn't Blood Bowl!

Anyway, i'm glad the cup stayed in Canada, though i was hoping someone could take it to Montreal.

Can't wait to hear about all the tournament results!
Zombie - Feb 22, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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I guess we can say that Toronto beat Montreal twice this weekend. Last time it was even (Montreal winning the Deathbowl cup, but the Leafs winning the game). Why is it that everytime we hold a tournament in Canada, the Habs are playing the Leafs during the same weekend in the same town? Maybe some conspiracy from Toronto to sap the troop moral of Montreal coaches when you nag us after another one of the Habs' heart crunching defeat?
BUD - Feb 23, 2004 - 12:26 AM
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well well well, I have just read everybodies smack talk and gotta say, didn't you guys know I wanted vengeance from being backstabbed at the Deathbowl 2003? I worked hard to get to the finals for the Deathbowl and get a 2-0-0-0 lead in the first half to only see my fellow TBBF's allow some non-TBBF'r (Zombie) take it away from me! Well, now that I can't be backstabbed I have clearly proven that I am the ultimate Canadian Bloodbowl coach of the entire world! muhahaha... ok... well, good anyways.

I'll see you all at the SPIKE tourny with my free ticket! ya baby ya!

Bud
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 23, 2004 - 05:35 AM
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Hey, I heard you lost that ticket and that it wasn't 'official' anyway because Da Painta forgot to sign it... Smile Wink

But full marks for a great time to Ian and Anthony - nice to see so many guys again... look forward to Spike and congratulations Dennis - well done!

-OMM
Khankill - Feb 23, 2004 - 06:37 AM
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Isn't Neo always first after day one of the Canadian Open?

Congrats to Bud. How many attended the Tourney? What were the final standings? Must have more info.
Clan_Skaven - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:03 AM
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The Final standings are not important...

No no no, we need not look at the final standings...

Lets not dwell on things of the past, lets look to the future shall we? Yes, yes the future is very good.

I forgot lastnight in the midst of all my rants, to thank Ian Dundass, Old Man Monkey, Mr. Watts, all my competitors for putting on a great show. I really enjoyed myself. Despite having a record of 0W-4L-1T. Great job everyone. Oh & Bryan "40K Vet" Carlaw, Everyone did not beat me, I did tie the one chap from Indiana (or somewhere in the USA) His team was "The Wheelin & Dealling "My name is too long for anyone to rember" Miners" or something like that Laughing . We had a great game I was down 2-0 at half time to only tie it up 2-2. Also I did win the ever so important "BAG OF WHEAT" award twice. So I wasn't totally beat. (Am I at all succeeding in defending what little respect any of you have left for my team?)

Congrats Bud (Grrrr. you still owe me a tourney rematch) Also congrats to Ian Dundas for a long peacefull retirement from the NAF as Canadian Tourney Organiser. Also congrats to Ben for a long enjoyable workload with the NAF as Canadian Tourney Organiser.

Did I forget anyone?.....

Well if if I did, you know why...

Yes again it all comes back to Warpstone Withdrawl. Confused

In Close great job to you all & hope to see you all again very soon.

Coach of the Hell Pit Wildrats & Commish. of the NFBBL www.nfgh.com
Clan_Skaven - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:13 AM
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Don't quote me on this, but I do believe the total was 28 Teams. Oh & I also think all 28 were NAF members.
Melifaxis - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:36 AM
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      Clan-Skaven wrote:
Don't quote me on this, but I do believe the total was 28 Teams. Oh & I also think all 28 were NAF members.


Sorry, couldn't resist... Laughing
Clan_Skaven - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:49 AM
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Laughing Laughing Laughing

Yep you got me there, funny!
neoliminal - Feb 23, 2004 - 11:26 AM
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I want to congratulate Bud on a well played event. He kicked major butt.

After a blazing start on the first day, I needed only one win on the second to day to secure an overall win. Rolling Eyes

My first opponent was Bud. My Orcs seemed well stacked against his Wood Elves. Unfortunately while I was breaking armour, I never caused a casualty. I started out well, scoring the first TD after recovering from a failed GFI in the endzone.

I felt I had a shot, even without causing injuries, but a quick score equalized. The second half required me to advance slowly and carefully to avoid the dancing elven attack on my ball carrier. With my cage wearing thin I was in scoring range and decided I needed to take the risk. Driving foward with my blitzer I just needed a GFI into the endzone and failed again. (Was that an endzone line or a trip wire?)

I felt content that I would get a tie, with the ball landing in his endzone and his outlet catcher one square too far from my endzone. But Bud pulled out an end to end TD, making the pick up, handoff, pass and then blocking my own player to push his the extra space required to score for the 2 GFI TD. Well done and he eeks out the victory (which put him in first place.)
Khankill - Feb 23, 2004 - 11:47 AM
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WOW! Now that is quite a score. Truely a championship play! I now double my congrats to Bud!
BUD - Feb 23, 2004 - 04:56 PM
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Neo played an amazing game, I just seemed to have that trip wire handy near the goal line or else it could have all gone wrong. That was the only game I didn't suffer a casualty, thanks Neo Razz

Well I gotta admit, that play took a couple specific rolls which I made, thankfully.

oh ya, and thanks for the congrats guys!

- Bud
BUD - Feb 23, 2004 - 05:06 PM
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oh ya and I posted up a new topic under Hosting Tournaments. Its called "New Scoring System", check it out and give me some feedback ladies and gents.

later all

- Bud
"king of bloodbowl"
IanTBBF - Feb 23, 2004 - 06:19 PM
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Before I pass along the final points tally from last weekend???s Canadian Open, I have to ???fess up to an error. The Points Totals that I used when announcing the winners DID NOT take into account the points from Painting and Sportsmanship.

This does not affect Bud???s win, nor does it make any change to the announced Top Four. However, it does rearrange the names originally announced for 5th, 6th and 7th. As you???ll see in the results, these positions now belong to Cam Weaver, Joseph Michaud, and Dave Sutton, respectively. Fortunately, all three got picks at the prize table anyway, so I don???t think it should cause too much disgruntlement.

The error also affected a few positions below the top seven, but since only the Top 7 were announced for prize purposes, I don???t think this should cause a problem, either.

Regardless, I apologize to those affected by my error.

These results will be entered into the NAF database later this week.

Canadian Open Results, 2004

Place - Team Name - Coach - Total
1 - Willow Wood Treedwellers - Dennis Clapham - 315
2 - Cuttlefish of Cthulu - Kevin Hutson - 305
3 - Da Rite Nancy Boyz - John Lewis - 295
4 - Necro Maniacs - Kolja Eppert - 283
5 - Pine Glade Freshness - Cam Weaver - 265
6 - Orcawa Centinalz - Joseph Michaud - 264
7 - Da Maggot Scum - Dave Sutton - 260
8 - Da Nunga Jungaz - Ben Tusim - 255
9 - Black Ark Assassins - Troy Fisher - 255
10 - Scarlet Mist - Brian St. James - 253
11 - Naggaroth Demons - Thomas Haughan - 244
12 - The Bangles - George Hewitt - 244
13 - Nar-Shadda Slavers - Bryan Carlaw - 235
14 - LTD - Neil Uppal - 234
15 - Marienburg Swashbucklers - Billy Zavos - 231
16 - Jalabad Janissaries - Ian Dundas - 225
17 - Pantheon - Jason Babineau - 223
18 - DMSDDMM - Anthony Riczo - 214
19 - Femme Fatale - Chris Federspiel - 209
20 - Ones Are Abound - Allan Leung - 209
21 - Defenders of Amorica - Bryan Mitchell - 205
22 - The Tackling Dead - Adam Powell - 205
23 - Dr. Flesh - Chris Huth - 202
24 - Odin's Court - Will Soter - 193
25 - Guoffland Gutrippas - Jon Guitard - 193
26 - True Sons of Faith - Jim Lanier - 175
27 - Hell Pit Wildrats - Roderick Davidson - 163
28 - Woodland Reavers - Jeff Birchenough - 153

Note: Where Total Points were tied, we went first to Total TD Differential and then to Total Bags O??? Wheat (Casualty Bonus) to determine placement.
IanTBBF - Feb 23, 2004 - 06:46 PM
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I also wanted to mention how pleased I was with the turnout this year! When I set things up with the Pandemonium Convention, I asked the organizers to give us room for 16 coaches, since we had 12 there last year. On the day of the event, 28 coaches showed up and we had to beat up some AD&D miniatures guys for extra playing space.

OK, there were no actual beatings.

In any case, the convention organizers was very impressed with us and we're going to get a lot more priority in their arrangements next year.

Special thanks to all those who came from out of town, helping the tournament to live up to the name Canadian Open. We had 5 coaches from Montreal, 11 from Toronto, 4 from Niagara Falls, 1 from Esquimalt, BC, 1 from Ann Arbor, Michigan, 4 from Fort Wayne, Indiana (did I get the name right?), 1 from Indianapolis, Indiana, and 1 from Tampa Bay, Florida.

Also, I should add congratulations to Neil Uppal for taking the Best Painted Award, and also to Kolja Eppert and Bryan Carlaw for Best Painted nominations.

Although I didn't award it formally, I think I should also mention Jeff Birchenough for the Most Hated By Nuffle award. There was just no call for the abuse Nuffle heaped upon those poor benighted Wood Elves! Wink

And finally, thanks to NAF for my Retirement Steak on Saturday night! Yum! Can I retire again soon? Very Happy
Deathwing - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:16 PM
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Sounds like you guys had a blast! The Canuck rankings are gonna be interesting after the shake up..Bud played Welfs...I'm guessing Kolja didn't play Skaven by the name...were The Cuttlefish CDs?

1 - Willow Wood Treedwellers - Dennis Clapham - 315
2 - Cuttlefish of Cthulu - Kevin Hutson - 305
3 - Da Rite Nancy Boyz - John Lewis - 295
4 - Necro Maniacs - Kolja Eppert - 283


Canadian current top 3:
1 Kevin Hutson kjonesin Canada Chaos Dwarves 182.77
2 Dennis Clapham BUD Canada Wood Elves 176.02
3 Kolja Eppert Kolja_TBBF Canada Skaven 175.88

And don't tell me our glorious prez is gonna end up 1 and 2 USA...
Shocked

1 John Lewis neoliminal United States Skaven 174.41
2 Jay Deckman jaylazer United States Dwarves 173.92
3 John Lewis neoliminal United States Orc 172.84
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 23, 2004 - 08:14 PM
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Looks like it, but Jay will have a chance to pick up points in Florida in three weeks - looks like 2004 is off to a very interesting start... Very Happy
twist - Feb 23, 2004 - 11:25 PM
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It was a blast, DW!!! And yes, the Cuttlefish are CWs... Although Kevin is pondering their retirement from tourney play... Which reminds me, Bud mentioned the same thing with his Woodies! Maybe now I'll have a chance with both those teams gone!!!
neoliminal - Feb 24, 2004 - 09:30 AM
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      Deathwing wrote:

And don't tell me our glorious prez is gonna end up 1 and 2 USA...
Shocked

1 John Lewis neoliminal United States Skaven 174.41
2 Jay Deckman jaylazer United States Dwarves 173.92
3 John Lewis neoliminal United States Orc 172.84


That was my goal. King
Doubleskulls - Feb 24, 2004 - 09:37 AM
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Does this mean I'm going to have to dust off the Orcs to hang onto my #1 spot?
BUD - Feb 24, 2004 - 10:09 AM
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I'll retire the WE's for a while, maybe just for the rest of 2004 and bring em back to defend their Cup in 2005 Canadian Open.

They'll be back baby, getting beat up more than ever!
neoliminal - Feb 24, 2004 - 10:12 AM
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      Doubleskulls wrote:
Does this mean I'm going to have to dust off the Orcs to hang onto my #1 spot?


No, it looks like I'm going to get to 178 with my Orcs. You're safe... for now.
Tutenkharnage - Feb 24, 2004 - 01:29 PM
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      twist wrote:
As for people from Buffalo, we all know the real reason you stay away. You're afraid... Laughing


You Canucks are really funny.

First, you allow John Lewis to actually lead your events - for days at a time! If John's the top coach in the USA, I must already be pushing up daisies.

Second, you're fascinated by poutine.

I mean, it's unbelievable. Next thing you know, you deluded swillers will think that the Leafs are actually going to win the Cup some time this century.

I suppose I'll have to go to the Canadian Open next year just so I can stomp John, Anthony, and whatever other wheatbags the TBBF has to offer. At least this time I won't have to fly all the way to England to do it Smile

-Chet
Melifaxis - Feb 24, 2004 - 02:25 PM
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We all know the Wings are going to win the cup and that the Rangers will always have the highest payroll and still miss the playoffs allowing the Canadiens to sneak in. The Leafs will fall in the first round.

Ottawa/Wings Finals. You heard it here 1st, and yes the Spike! will be coming home to the USA.

Very Happy
BUD - Feb 24, 2004 - 02:52 PM
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      Melifaxis wrote:
We all know the Wings are going to win the cup and that the Rangers will always have the highest payroll and still miss the playoffs allowing the Canadiens to sneak in. The Leafs will fall in the first round.

Ottawa/Wings Finals. You heard it here 1st, and yes the Spike! will be coming home to the USA.

Very Happy
hahaha... SPIKE going to the USA... good one!

- Bud
neoliminal - Feb 24, 2004 - 03:07 PM
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      Tutenkharnage wrote:

First, you allow John Lewis to actually lead your events - for days at a time! If John's the top coach in the USA, I must already be pushing up daisies.

I suppose I'll have to go to the Canadian Open next year just so I can stomp John...)


Grrrr....

Tell me in advance what team you're bringing, and I'll show you what daisies look like.
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 24, 2004 - 04:34 PM
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Uh oh - Brian, you better get out your ref's jersey quick... and Tom - you better make plans for next year - we might need a third BBRC member at this to settle any REAL disputes... Very Happy Wink
Grell - Feb 24, 2004 - 07:55 PM
Post subject: Best NFBBL Player
Yes I am finally a NAF member and and I won sixth overall at the Canadian Open to become the best NFBBL player this year LOL.

Thanks for a great weekend and Ian don't worry about the position or prizes as I am probably the only 40k player in the top seven.
Clan_Skaven - Feb 24, 2004 - 08:20 PM
Post subject: New NAF rankings & CDN. Open results.
Just curious... I see the many new NAF players starting at a CR of 150. When will the CR be updated from the CDN. Open?

Also when will the match results be posted up?

Not trying to sound impatient. Just curious. (I shouldn't be in any great rush, due to the fact that my CR rating is probably gonna plummit down fast) Crying or Very sad
Zombie - Feb 24, 2004 - 09:05 PM
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It usually takes a few weeks.
twist - Feb 24, 2004 - 09:43 PM
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      Tutenkharnage wrote:

You Canucks are really funny.


Speaking of funny... Here's a guy who will travel to England for tourneys, but hasn't shown up at nearby Toronto, Montreal, or Ann Arbour.... Hmmmm.... Laughing
IanTBBF - Feb 24, 2004 - 11:49 PM
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Most of the matches from the Canadian Open were entered into the site this evening. However, we're missing the NAF Name of one of the coaches and we won't finalize the tournament until we get it.

On that note - does anyone know Jon Guitard's NAF name? Jon, if you're reading this, please tell us.

As soon as we get that, we can enter the last few match-ups and update the site.

Also while looking over some tournaments, I discovered an error way back in the Canada Games Day Tourney. (God - what a week for errors!) OK, actually El Presidente Lewis noticed it. In any case, it was corrected. It made a small difference to the ratings for some of the coaches involved in that tournament.

Hmm... do I dare go and check the other tournaments I've entered into the site in the last year? Wink
IanTBBF - Feb 25, 2004 - 12:27 AM
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OK, El Presidente gave the go-ahead and we posted all the matches from the Canadian Open, excluding the five for Jon Guitard. Once we get those matches sorted out, we'll post them as well.
BUD - Feb 25, 2004 - 01:20 AM
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7th overall !!!! wooty woot woot!

2nd in Canada next to Mr. Cuttlefish himself (by a slim margin mind you), not bad for 3 tournaments and with the WE's. I think my record is 13 wins, 1 tie and 0 losses with them, not too shabby Smile

- Bud
"king of bloodbowl"
Tutenkharnage - Feb 25, 2004 - 08:08 AM
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      neoliminal wrote:
Grrrr....

Tell me in advance what team you're bringing, and I'll show you what daisies look like.


Still using that cheeseball Orc roster with all the ST and Block you could possibly want? I fail to see how learning which team I'm bringing would help you improve it. Besides...you and I played a nice Amazon-Orc scrimmage via PBeM weeks before Resurrection. That didn't help you much, as I recall Wink

-Chet

P.S. To be fair, John didn't have great luck in our tourney game. Blitzers who die on GFIs don't help a coach's cause. But that's the only dollop of humility I'll inject into this discussion Smile
Tutenkharnage - Feb 25, 2004 - 08:09 AM
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      twist wrote:
Speaking of funny... Here's a guy who will travel to England for tourneys, but hasn't shown up at nearby Toronto, Montreal, or Ann Arbour.... Hmmmm.... Laughing


Hmm...foreign country I've never visited, or colder versions of Buffalo. Tough choice! Wink

-Chet
neoliminal - Feb 25, 2004 - 09:48 AM
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      Tutenkharnage wrote:

Still using that cheeseball Orc roster with all the ST and Block you could possibly want? I fail to see how learning which team I'm bringing would help you improve it. Besides...you and I played a nice Amazon-Orc scrimmage via PBeM weeks before Resurrection. That didn't help you much, as I recall Wink


Yep. Still playing them in Canada. In the US I play a Skaven team. You'll note that I'm ranked #1 and #2 in the US at the moment.

You beat me one game, and you think I suck. Wink
Zombie - Feb 25, 2004 - 10:29 AM
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      BUD wrote:
7th overall !!!! wooty woot woot!

2nd in Canada next to Mr. Cuttlefish himself (by a slim margin mind you), not bad for 3 tournaments and with the WE's. I think my record is 13 wins, 1 tie and 0 losses with them, not too shabby Smile

- Bud
"king of bloodbowl"


Please reconsider and keep playing wood elves for a while. It would be nice to have a Canadian at the top of NAF rankings.
Zombie - Feb 25, 2004 - 10:30 AM
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      Tutenkharnage wrote:
      twist wrote:
Speaking of funny... Here's a guy who will travel to England for tourneys, but hasn't shown up at nearby Toronto, Montreal, or Ann Arbour.... Hmmmm.... Laughing


Hmm...foreign country I've never visited, or colder versions of Buffalo. Tough choice! Wink

-Chet


I take offense to that. Canada is nothing like Buffalo.
BUD - Feb 25, 2004 - 10:57 AM
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Please reconsider and keep playing wood elves for a while. It would be nice to have a Canadian at the top of NAF rankings.


don't worry, i'll keep playing WE's, just not till either the Deathbowl or the Canadian Open 2005.

- Bud
Zombie - Feb 25, 2004 - 11:07 AM
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Then we can't have a Canadian champion until November at best. Sad

Oh well, i suppose we can't force you. Maybe sponsor you? No, the way things are at the moment in Canada, that would make the headlines and we'd lose our jobs.
Tutenkharnage - Feb 25, 2004 - 12:36 PM
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      neoliminal wrote:
You beat me one game, and you think I suck. Wink


To be fair, I beat you in two games and I think you suck Wink

Nah, I don't think you suck. I believe my exact words were, "John, you're not even the top coach in your own league! Get a little seasoning first, then come talk to me."

I really gotta get to Toronto next year. Even the wife asked me why I hadn't gone yet!

-Chet
Melifaxis - Feb 25, 2004 - 12:59 PM
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Well, that's a green light if I ever saw one! Why not Spike!?
Tutenkharnage - Feb 25, 2004 - 01:54 PM
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Already going to Florida next month for TKC, Cedar Point (Ohio) in July (give or take), and the Caribbean next January. So I won't stuff the 2004 Spike tourney into the mix this year, although I'll keep it in mind next year. (Hey, maybe I'll attend two Canadian jaunts next year. But the Halfling Dinner Mug is also on the "someday" plate.)

-Chet
Melifaxis - Feb 25, 2004 - 02:00 PM
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Fair enough, I'll see you down at the TKC. Very Happy
Clan_Skaven - Feb 25, 2004 - 06:01 PM
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I was kind of curious on how I did on my painting & sportsmanship at the Canadian Open. I'm sure I did good in sportsmanship. It was a tough job keeping a smile alive amongst all my losses! Laughing No really it wasn't, it was easy, I love BloodBowl, whether I win lose or tie it does not matter!

So I'm more curious on how my painting was judged. I think I'm an ok painter (i'll never be nominated for best painter) but I do try my best. I actually was quite suprised when a fellow Coach complimented my paint job of my Rat Ogre's skin. Then even more surprised when they asked me on advice for painting! Well that made my day, or at least made up for my 4-0 loss later that day! Laughing
Rash - Feb 25, 2004 - 07:20 PM
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Haven't had a chance to do so yet but on behalf of the Ft. Wayne players thanks for a great weekend. I'm rather pleased with out league's preliminary outing (2 in the top half and honoravble mention to "Dorf's Death Dealin' Mead Swillin' Mithril Miners" for getting abbreviated in the results... hope to see you all at Galak's shindig in South Bend in May.
-The Rash
mosalva - Feb 25, 2004 - 07:40 PM
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I will happily try and come. I'm Spanish but I live in Los Angeles. If no other Team Spain people come, can I be a one-man team Spain...? Confused
Tutenkharnage - Feb 27, 2004 - 08:50 AM
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      Zombie wrote:
I take offense to that. Canada is nothing like Buffalo.


What, you mean Canadians don't step outside into zero-Celsius weather after an extended cold spell and say, "Wow, what a warm day"?

-Chet
Zombie - Feb 27, 2004 - 03:37 PM
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In Buffalo, they don't even know what cold means. Actually, in Montreal, they don't either. Where i'm from, we go play outside at -40 and don't mind at all. At -50, some decide to stay inside, but hey, it's their loss!

Like i said, we're nothing like Buffalo. Besides, Buffalo is in the USA, which means they like guns and killing people, think gay marriages are wrong, and still believe in that thing you call a god.
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 27, 2004 - 03:46 PM
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Easy, Zombie, my friend - those are certainly not characteristics of all Americans, just as the counter to these things do not characterize all those from Montreal... Wink
Zombie - Feb 27, 2004 - 04:52 PM
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Hey, i don't know whether you noticed, but i tried to pick funny stuff, nothing too serious. Trying to remain friendly here. Razz
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 27, 2004 - 05:22 PM
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I don't know!!! Wink Believe it or not, some people on both sides of the border take some of those things pretty serious... Razz
Melifaxis - Feb 27, 2004 - 06:10 PM
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Murder, violence, human rights, & religion.

Nothing too serious?

Grow up.
Clan_Skaven - Feb 27, 2004 - 11:22 PM
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      Melifaxis wrote:
Murder, violence, human rights, & religion.

Nothing too serious?

Grow up.


Ya I'd say cracking jokes about religion is just gonna cause too much contraversey.

If you do not believe in God that is kool & those should respect your views. But you should also respect others views as well. Wheather you believe or not believe in God, I really do not think this forum is the propper or suitible place for discussion on this subject.

So clean slate, lets everyone drop the whole political jargon of the above 4 topics!

Thanks.....Rod
CyberHare - Feb 28, 2004 - 05:20 AM
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Dragging this topic back to the canadian open...

I have to say that the dice rules were a total and complete success. There where a couple complaints in jest and a few people who didn't really care but asked why bother. In the end though there wasn't a single complaint. Really how can someone complain without seeming suspicious? I can honestly say that I didn't hear a single person complain about their opponents dice rolls. I heard some people complain about their own dice rolls but coaches will be coaches Wink For the $20 it cost to get the dice it was money well spent by the TO. I only hope that other tournaments will start to follow suit and start making dice rules the tournament standard.
Xtreme - Feb 28, 2004 - 11:17 AM
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I would have like to keep a set of dice though. Sad
I sit at home and make little participation trophies for myself since I'll never get a real trophy. The dice would have been nice. So for future tournaments they could bump the entry fee up a dollar and let you keep the dice. Or even have commerative d6es made with a logo for the one.
Clan_Skaven - Feb 28, 2004 - 09:40 PM
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      Xtreme wrote:
I would have like to keep a set of dice though. Sad
I sit at home and make little participation trophies for myself since I'll never get a real trophy. The dice would have been nice. So for future tournaments they could bump the entry fee up a dollar and let you keep the dice. Or even have commerative d6es made with a logo for the one.


You'll get a trophy before me!
Darkson - Feb 29, 2004 - 02:29 PM
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What's a trophy? Rolling Eyes
Xtreme - Mar 01, 2004 - 02:08 AM
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Were all the results entered? I'm missing my game against Ed Basha. Not that it's a beg deal it was a draw, but didn't see any of his games up there. Also is there anywhere we can check out our painting points.
Ben - Mar 01, 2004 - 06:30 AM
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I don't think Ed Basha is a Naf member. I tried contacting him but got no response. I'll see what i can do regarding painting points.

Ben
AnthonyTBBF - Mar 01, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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If he isn't already he did sign up at the event. We just need to get a hold of him and confirm some details before we can enter his games. Anyone who played him will be missing that game until that time. Sorry for the delay!
AnthonyTBBF - Mar 01, 2004 - 10:54 AM
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BTW Ben, you can find him on TalkBloodBowl under the username 'Ed Basha' (including quotes).
AnthonyTBBF - Mar 01, 2004 - 11:00 AM
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A couple more things:

I just wanted to say a huge Thank You to everyone who came to the tourney. I certainly wasn't expecting 28 people! I'm glad we had such a great turnout and hope it will be even bigger next year. Also thanks to Ian Dundas for taking the reigns and filling in for me on Sunday. I apologize for having to leave so early but I know I left the event in good hands. I hope to see everyone at the Spike! in September as well!

About Painting - almost everyone got 10 points, with a handful getting 9 and one person getting a 7. Most points were lost for lack of basing, with a few exceptions.

Dice - The fee for the event was the cost to get into Pandemonium, so unfotunately we didn;t recover any money for costs like dice. In the future I may be able to let people keep the dice if they really want.
BUD - Mar 01, 2004 - 10:38 PM
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yes, coudo's to the tournament organizers (Anthony and Ian)

well done lads

and how much do I owe you for rigging my 2 dice? Smile

Bud
"king of blood bowl"
Clan_Skaven - Mar 02, 2004 - 08:17 AM
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Was I the 7 in painting? Laughing
40KVet - Mar 03, 2004 - 06:22 AM
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Yes.


Simple.
Short.
Sweet.
CyberHare - Jun 29, 2004 - 05:53 AM
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Since this happened in February wouldn't it be time to un-sticky this topic?
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