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GalakStarscraper - Feb 19, 2005 - 06:19 AM
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Jervis Johnson is attending this year.

If you want to met the creator of the game and play in the largest tournament in North America 2 years running ... hop over to Indianapolis, Indiana, USA for the GenCon Bowl.

All the details for the tournament are now posted at: http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/GenCon.html

3 games on day one and 2 games on day 2 ... swiss style.

Jim is going to help with T-shirts again and I promise this time to plug his assistance on my website.

Everyone attending and playing all 5 games will receive a Jurgen Demonfeeder limited edition figure from the Chaos Cup 2004.

Schedule:
Friday August 19th
Register teams: 8am - 9am
Game 1: 9am - 11am
Break: 11:00am - 11:30am
Game 2: 11:30am - 1:30pm
Lunch/Dealer Room Break: 1:30pm - 3:30pm
Game 3: 3:30pm - 5:30pm

Saturday August 20th
Game 4: 8am to 10am
Break: 10am - 10:30am
Game 5: 10:30am - 12:30pm
Break: 12:30pm - 1pm
Awards: 1pm - 1:15pm

Galak[/b]

Colin - Feb 19, 2005 - 07:43 AM
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Ok, I know this may sound stupid, but I never attended this event before (or a tourney held during a Con), I presume I would have to register for the Con to get into the BB tourney, but do I also have to register for the BB tourney as well (and if so, do I have to pay a fee for both or does the GenCon fee cover the BB tourney)?

Xeterog - Feb 19, 2005 - 08:49 AM
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yes to both questions. GenCon is a 4 day con, but you can buy a badge just for Friday and Saturday (when the Tourney is). It's a great con, and I'd recommend going all 4 days if you can..there is alot to see and do..even if you just go by the 'Event' hall (a huge dealers room really).

GalakStarscraper - Feb 19, 2005 - 01:22 PM
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A pre-registered 4 day badge to GenCon is $60 USD ... if you just want to register for Friday and Saturday of the tournament the badge cost is $46 if you pre-register. And really I cannot stress enough how important it will be to pre-register for the Con and the Tournament. Unless you are coming down for the events on Thursday and getting your badge onsite that Thursday evening, I doubt there will be time to get a badge onsite Friday morning and still make the tournament. You can try it but it might be taking a definite risk. At a minimum if you are going to get an onsite badge instead of pre-registering ... go over the night before when you arrive and get a badge for Friday and Saturday on Thursday night which is allowed and actually should allow you to avoid the lines.

The Blood Bowl tournament costs an additional $12.50 to play in. GenCon takes $7.50 of this as a space charge ($1.50 per a 2 hour game played) and the other $5.00 goes to help cover the cost of the trophies, prizes, photocopies, etc. (Just as a footnote, the GenCon Bowl normally costs me about $300 a year to run above the $5 a head I get to help out with my costs ... just in case you were wondering ... and this year I need to pay for JJ's plane ticket on top of my normal expenses).

And Torg ... I think I don't you are correct that this is new to you. You used to go the Underworld Cup that John ran right. Well it was the same thing ... you had a fee to register for U-Con and then there was a entry fee for John's Blood Bowl tournament. So this is the same exact structure ... just on a scale about 100 times larger for the Con. U-Con had about 20 dealers ... GenCon has about 250.

Galak

CyberHare - Feb 21, 2005 - 08:05 PM
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Are you running that little tourney of yours again this year Wink

SIGH....I suppose I could get my butt down to Indiana again this year to save your event Tom... but these massive gaming conventions with no wife or kids for 5 days are really starting to take a toll. Mr. Green

Seriously though I wouldn't miss it and I will once again gladly be your lowly whipping boy. Now do I bring the tried and true Amazons or do I break out the Ogres and cause some undue pain as the odd man out. Decissions decissions....

Colin - Feb 22, 2005 - 12:19 AM
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Don't know who you're thinking of Galak, but I've never been to the Underworld Cup, only ever been to the BB in Notts last May.

GalakStarscraper - Feb 22, 2005 - 12:46 PM
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Torg wrote:

Don't know who you're thinking of Galak, but I've never been to the Underworld Cup, only ever been to the BB in Notts last May.

My apologies Torg ... for some reason I was sure you had been to Underworld ... many sorries.

Retract all those statements then ... mistaken identity.

Oh and CyberHare ... look forward to seeing you again.

Galak

Melifaxis - Mar 21, 2005 - 02:56 PM
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Sticky me please...

garth - Mar 21, 2005 - 08:00 PM
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I have been getting some *convincing* from my mates at The Challenge of Q'ermitt to go to this tourney (CyberHare, etc.). Since I LOVE football, and I am a HUGE Buffalo Bills fan (paint colours of my human team), I said that I would consider going IF there was a pre-season game at the Indy stadium that weekend -- ESPECIALLY if it was the Bills! (What would be the million to one chance...?)

I checked the NFL site (the REAL one, boys!) and the Bills DO play Indy at their stadium.... just not THAT weekend! Sad

However, there is a Chicago game...!...

Da_Scum - Mar 22, 2005 - 11:10 AM
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garth wrote:

However, there is a Chicago game...!...

So does that mean that BOTH Buffalo theme teams are going to choke and lose in Indy that weekend? Laughing

garth - Mar 22, 2005 - 11:28 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

So does that mean that BOTH Buffalo theme teams are going to choke and lose in Indy that weekend? Laughing

You didn't read my post correctly. The REAL Buffalo team will lose to Indy the week BEFORE my BB Buffalo team loses at GenCon... Wink

Clan_Skaven - Mar 22, 2005 - 01:14 PM
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I'll be there, now when playing with a hangover at the Gen Con both days, do I want to lose all day with my Lizardmen or my Skaven?

Rod.

Da_Scum - Mar 22, 2005 - 01:58 PM
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garth wrote:

Da_Scum wrote:

So does that mean that BOTH Buffalo theme teams are going to choke and lose in Indy that weekend? Laughing

You didn't read my post correctly. The REAL Buffalo team will lose to Indy the week BEFORE my BB Buffalo team loses at GenCon... Wink

So you're aiming for consistancy then? Laughing

KarlLagerbottom - Mar 22, 2005 - 03:13 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:

Sticky me please...

YUCK! Talk about famous last words...

snew - Mar 22, 2005 - 03:15 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

I'll be there, now when playing with a hangover at the Gen Con both days, do I want to lose all day with my Lizardmen or my Skaven?

Rod.

Don't play with a hangover. Just do what I do and don't sober up. Sure, you're tired but the games aren't all that exciting anyway. Nap while your opponent is taking 10 minutes to move his first guy and you'll be all charged back up for that evening.

Works for me.

fe2mike - Mar 22, 2005 - 05:13 PM
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Snots are you going to make it to Gencon this year, we may need a drinkin buddy, just stay away from my bat Wink

snew - Mar 22, 2005 - 05:47 PM
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I think so. Your bat is safe from me. I can't promise safety from everyone else. Wink

You'll like this crowd too.

Ben - Mar 22, 2005 - 07:17 PM
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I will difinatly try and come out this year. This time i want to get take part in the drunkeness and licking bats, and dick fight and... oh my i missed a lot. Damn gf wanted to have romantic dinners and stuff. She is staying home for the Gencon. Oh ya can't wait.

snew - Mar 22, 2005 - 09:06 PM
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I can't wait. It sure was nice meeting Crystal but I know how demanding they can be of your time. My wife went with me to the first GenCon I went to. I missed a lot. We'll save a seat for ya.

Old_Man_Monkey - Mar 22, 2005 - 10:15 PM
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omigod... the dancin' fool hell bent for a wild time in the midwest... Indy will never be the same... Very Happy

BronzeDragon - Apr 06, 2005 - 08:53 AM
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Hi,

This year will be my first trip to Gen Con Indy. I'd love to get into a tournament. Hopefully, I'll be able to get my Living Greyhawk fix and my blood bowl fix. I joined the NAF in the hopes of finding a chance to get into a league and/or tournament near my hometown.

Not that I expect I'd do all that well at my first tournament, especially if it's at such a large con. Smile

Cordially,

Eric
Pittsburgh, PA

Da_Scum - Apr 06, 2005 - 11:40 AM
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BronzeDragon wrote:

Cordially,

Eric
Pittsburgh, PA

Cordially?

CORDIALLY?!?!

This poor man is evidently not aware of what Scum and Villiany shows up at the Bloodbowl tournament now is he? Rolling Eyes

Heck they let a Goblin team show up and compete it has to be stooping low now doesn't it? They even let that Clan-Skaven guy in the door and let Old Codger Baboon think he can win games... Laughing

Seannewboy - Apr 06, 2005 - 07:01 PM
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Bravo, good one Scum Laughing

majortusk - Apr 06, 2005 - 07:26 PM
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I am about 98.2% for sure that I will be coming to Gen Con. Now only if I can convince Absent to go.

snew - Apr 06, 2005 - 08:44 PM
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Absent go. Don't try to hold it. It will damage your prostate. Laughing

Rest up. You're gonna need it.

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 06, 2005 - 08:53 PM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Heck they let a Goblin team show up and compete it has to be stooping low now doesn't it? They even let that Clan-Skaven guy in the door and let Old Codger Baboon think he can win games... Laughing

No, clearly Eric is a gentleman and unaware of the bombast and drivel allowed by the organizers to anyone from the great unwashed North who pays the entrance fees... anything having to do with goblins is stooping low and none quite so low as your mean greenies. Scum old chum!

Too bad beating you is such old news - would be fun again to punt little broken bodies about the pitch... maybe we'll get the chance to play when it counts again... Wink

Da_Scum - Apr 06, 2005 - 09:38 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Aye and this time I'll insist the bribe is MUCH higher for me to throw the match!

..say...TWO beers this time! Laughing

Clan_Skaven - Apr 06, 2005 - 10:59 PM
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Give me a tourney where I don't have to play (& lose to Scum & Zombie) Well I'm in!

Rod

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 07, 2005 - 06:16 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Give me a tourney where I don't have to play (& lose to Scum & Zombie) Well I'm in!

Rod

.... only cuz Zombie won't come to Indy..... Wink

Clan_Skaven - Apr 07, 2005 - 12:38 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Give me a tourney where I don't have to play (& lose to Scum & Zombie) Well I'm in!

Rod

.... only cuz Zombie won't come to Indy..... Wink

That can be a good thing.... Wink

Clan_Skaven - Apr 07, 2005 - 02:10 PM
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I'll make a GEN CON challenge!

For any opponent I play, from this forum..... I'll play for a pint of Trophy

GUINNES!

Rod

KarlLagerbottom - Apr 07, 2005 - 03:13 PM
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Playing for Pints aye?

Maybe I'll have to bring Dwarfs to enjoy that action! Smile

-Rob

P.S. Rod...you have a deal on that one my friend. Will it be Lizzies or Rats that I'll be stomping? Smile

(My Lucky storm-influenced win at CoQ nonwithstanding.)

Colin - Apr 07, 2005 - 03:24 PM
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Rod, what about those of us who don't drink, what do you have to offer?

Da_Scum - Apr 07, 2005 - 03:37 PM
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Torg wrote:

Rod, what about those of us who don't drink, what do you have to offer?

Rumour has it he'll dance with a NAF Thong... Shocked

...this will explain how he'll be able to get ANY wins at GenCon. Laughing

jaylazer - Apr 07, 2005 - 03:48 PM
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Please stop .... the last thing I need is the image of Rod dancing in a Thong (NAF or otherwise) ... Shocked

Colin - Apr 07, 2005 - 06:22 PM
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That image is enough to make me rethink even coming to GenCon, maybe I'll stay home, don't want to take the chance of seeing Rod in a thong. Where's the puke smiley when you need it?

Clan_Skaven - Apr 07, 2005 - 08:03 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Playing for Pints aye?

Maybe I'll have to bring Dwarfs to enjoy that action! Smile

-Rob

P.S. Rod...you have a deal on that one my friend. Will it be Lizzies or Rats that I'll be stomping? Smile

(My Lucky storm-influenced win at CoQ nonwithstanding.)

More like my "Unlucky" AG 4 Skink rolling a one on 3 consecuative turns to tie the game against you. Besides it was not I who was awarded the Wooden Spoon! I hear you have quite the collection of those my friend! Laughing

Rod.

Clan_Skaven - Apr 07, 2005 - 08:06 PM
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Torg wrote:

That image is enough to make me rethink even coming to GenCon, maybe I'll stay home, don't want to take the chance of seeing Rod in a thong. Where's the puke smiley when you need it?

Why not I'm Dead Sexy!

Torg you don't drink eh? (Sorry bout your loss!) Ok Torg if we play at GEN CON how bout a Steak Dinner (I like mine Blue!) Or do you not eat red meat as well?

Rod.

KarlLagerbottom - Apr 07, 2005 - 10:34 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Rod.

Rod-
You better go back and look at that score again my friend...you'll find that I beat you 3-2. How's it feel losing to the guys who finished in last? Smile

Wooden Spoon... HURUMPH!!! Bring it on Mr. Skink! Smile

-Rob

Xtreme - Apr 08, 2005 - 12:44 AM
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Quote:

Rod-
You better go back and look at that score again my friend...you'll find that I beat you 3-2. How's it feel losing to the guys who finished in last? icon_smile.gif

Wooden Spoon... HURUMPH!!! Bring it on Mr. Skink! icon_smile.gif

-Rob

If it wasn't for wooden spoons who would Rod beat? Wink

Glad to hear you coming down again Rod, maybe we will get to play this time.

snew - Apr 08, 2005 - 11:17 AM
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I wrote somewhere that I was going to be wearing an NAF thong Superman-style. The picture of Rod in one though has made me rethink that decision.

Rod, If Torg beats you, I'll drink his pint. Mr. Green

Heck, I'll drink with anyone here.

Colin - Apr 08, 2005 - 05:48 PM
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Just don't let him lick your bat. Wink

snew - Apr 09, 2005 - 08:17 AM
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The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Da_Scum - Apr 09, 2005 - 08:25 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Mental? You haven't had them crash over and caught them in the morning in doing the Zombie/Clan Skaven love snuggle! Shocked

I'm still having weekly treatment, and had to have the love couch burned just cause... as catching Cyberhare skipping around in the NAF thong earlier had been bad enough! Laughing

VBZ - Apr 09, 2005 - 10:53 AM
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Why do I always miss all the fun stuff?

snew - Apr 09, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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Sometimes I'm forced to admit that alcohol may not be a good thing.

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 09, 2005 - 11:32 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Mental? You haven't had them crash over and caught them in the morning in doing the Zombie/Clan Skaven love snuggle! Shocked

I'm still having weekly treatment, and had to have the love couch burned just cause... as catching Cyberhare skipping around in the NAF thong earlier had been bad enough! Laughing

O
MI
GAWD.....

<dialing the help line> Please make them stop!!! Please... they just won't stop...!>

Just the attempt to conjure that image made me shudder... violently!

<note to self: send Da Scum $1.00USD for therapy - that should pay for at least a month's therapy in CAN dollars...>
Wink

snew - Apr 09, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Da_Scum wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Mental? You haven't had them crash over and caught them in the morning in doing the Zombie/Clan Skaven love snuggle! Shocked

I'm still having weekly treatment, and had to have the love couch burned just cause... as catching Cyberhare skipping around in the NAF thong earlier had been bad enough! Laughing

You roomed with Skaven last year. Maybe it's better we don't think about what went on in that little room across town. Neutral

Clan_Skaven - Apr 09, 2005 - 12:56 PM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Da_Scum wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Mental? You haven't had them crash over and caught them in the morning in doing the Zombie/Clan Skaven love snuggle! Shocked

I'm still having weekly treatment, and had to have the love couch burned just cause... as catching Cyberhare skipping around in the NAF thong earlier had been bad enough! Laughing

You roomed with Skaven last year. Maybe it's better we don't think about what went on in that little room across town. Neutral

OMM taught me things I never knew could be possible & took me places I never thought I could go! Laughing

This is all getting very strange, wait till Aug. in Indy. it may get worse!

Rod.

Da_Scum - Apr 09, 2005 - 04:25 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

OMM taught me things I never knew could be possible & took me places I never thought I could go! Laughing

This is all getting very strange, wait till Aug. in Indy. it may get worse!

Rod.

>holding hands over ears<

LALALALALALALALALA! Shocked

I think I'm going to take up Old Codger's Baboon's offer of several pints of Guinness for theropy...followed by hanging out with the cheerleader squad....THAT ought to finally purge the vision of NAF thongs frolicing through our minds. Worship

snew - Apr 09, 2005 - 09:02 PM
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Those NAF cheerleaders are probably the ones who they make the thongs for. Surprised

Clan_Skaven - Apr 10, 2005 - 01:50 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

The mental images are getting worse. Laughing

Mental? You haven't had them crash over and caught them in the morning in doing the Zombie/Clan Skaven love snuggle! Shocked

I'm still having weekly treatment, and had to have the love couch burned just cause... as catching Cyberhare skipping around in the NAF thong earlier had been bad enough! Laughing

Ummmm..... Mr. Scum, at the SPIKE I crashed on your couch in the recroom. You & Zombie spent the night together in Your Bedroom. So that love snuggle could not have been me..... In fact I'm sure I had heard some sorta strange sounds coming through the wall from you two... Shocked

Hey all I know is he must have been good, you had him back again for the Canadian Open & the C o Q! (My my aren't you a busy Gobbo!) Laughing

Da_Scum - Apr 10, 2005 - 11:59 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Hey all I know is he must have been good, you had him back again for the Canadian Open & the C o Q! (My my aren't you a busy Gobbo!) Laughing

Oh you're just jealous, I promised you could be on top next time! (Though I hear OMM keeps using that line with you as well.... Rolling Eyes

)

And at least he brought friends to share the next time! Laughing

You want Gobbo lovin' you'll have to do better than just the thong...ask Cyberhare! Orc

snew - Apr 10, 2005 - 02:31 PM
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There's can be too much of a good thing. This has gone a little far here.

Clan_Skaven - Apr 10, 2005 - 03:12 PM
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snotsngrots wrote:

There's can be too much of a good thing. This has gone a little far here.

Look who's talking sticky door knob, bat licker! Shocked

snew - Apr 10, 2005 - 04:54 PM
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I know I play too. I try and stop short of getting too graphic though; instead preferring the reader to have to use their imagination. Sometimes I go to far as well.

And that sticky door knob wasn't in my room. The bat I take full responsibility for. Razz

Clan_Skaven - Apr 10, 2005 - 05:14 PM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Fair enough.

(I still may buy a NAF thong though!)

Wink

Da_Scum - Apr 10, 2005 - 05:54 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Fair enough.

(I still may buy a NAF thong though!)

Wink

You could always get another one from Cyberhare, I understand he has plenty of spare! Rolling Eyes

snew - Apr 10, 2005 - 06:07 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

Fair enough.

(I still may buy a NAF thong though!)

Wink

Me too.

BronzeDragon - Apr 12, 2005 - 03:07 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Da_Scum wrote:

Heck they let a Goblin team show up and compete it has to be stooping low now doesn't it? They even let that Clan-Skaven guy in the door and let Old Codger Baboon think he can win games... Laughing

Gentleman. Hmm. I've been called worse. It's really just a force of habit from work. I play Orcs and Norse, so my in character comments won't be as "cordial". Smile

(Well, I did manage to get a Skaven team on the cheap that I'm painting up ever so slowly so I can give a go with a speed team.)

Eric
Pittsburgh, PA

GalakStarscraper - Apr 12, 2005 - 08:33 PM
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The South Bend Slaughter looks to double its attendance from last year ... I'm going to hope that GenCon can do the same that would be AWESOME!

Galak

snew - Apr 12, 2005 - 10:40 PM
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Yeah! More people you have to explain what changed in the LRB to. Just what I want to play against. I guess I better win my matches. I'm assuming the people at the higher tables know what they're doing. Nah, I know better.

I don't even know why I play in these things...

Clan_Skaven - Apr 13, 2005 - 06:32 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Ya tell me about it,.....

Last year at the GEN CON I play this kid, & after he rolls a 12 in the kick off, I yell with excitement "Yes a Pitch Invasion!" (Old kick off rules) I was excited because I had the higher FF & I was hoping to even the score as I was at the time losing.

It was his reply to my excitement that I was dumbfounded by, "What's a Pitch Invasion?" Exclamation

I can understand not knowing the most updating rules changes such as things like WA or the new Kick Off table. But to not even know what a basic rule was? I don't know maybe I'm wrong to say this, but if you do not have a fairly strong grasp on the rules, than maybe tourney play is not for that person.

Nothing is more frustrating than not only playing against such an apponent that you also have to babysit them as well with rule regulations and such.

Am I alone with this opinion?

Rod.

Da_Scum - Apr 13, 2005 - 08:07 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

It was his reply to my excitement that I was dumbfounded by, "What's a Pitch Invasion?" Exclamation

That's easy, it's when the hordes of Goblins storm the field to even things up for our heroes. Laughing

I tend to refer to this as an invasion by the 21st SS Panzer Division.

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Nothing is more frustrating than not only playing against such an apponent that you also have to babysit them as well with rule regulations and such.

Am I alone with this opinion?

Rod.

Tell me about, there's this guy with AG 4 Skinks who just keeps complaining that Nuffle hates him. It's bad enough he has rat-tails sticking out of those lizard costumes... Rolling Eyes

Clan_Skaven - Apr 13, 2005 - 08:33 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

It was his reply to my excitement that I was dumbfounded by, "What's a Pitch Invasion?" Exclamation

That's easy, it's when the hordes of Goblins storm the field to even things up for our heroes. Laughing

I tend to refer to this as an invasion by the 21st SS Panzer Division.

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Nothing is more frustrating than not only playing against such an apponent that you also have to babysit them as well with rule regulations and such.

Am I alone with this opinion?

Rod.

Tell me about, there's this guy with AG 4 Skinks who just keeps complaining that Nuffle hates him. It's bad enough he has rat-tails sticking out of those lizard costumes... Rolling Eyes

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Twisted Evil

GalakStarscraper - Apr 13, 2005 - 08:52 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Now that's a true cynic view Snots. LRB 4.0 didn't change that much that would effect your game other than the Kick-off table and just make sure you have a new print-out of only that page of the LRB 4.0 with you and you'll have insurance on this.

All the other changes by and large affected skill selection and that's something that I have to deal with between rounds.

Galak

Da_Scum - Apr 13, 2005 - 09:45 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

What about pointed sticks? Laughing

snew - Apr 13, 2005 - 04:23 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Nothing is more frustrating than not only playing against such an apponent that you also have to babysit them as well with rule regulations and such.

Rod.

Don't you often lose to them too? Razz

Clan_Skaven - Apr 13, 2005 - 05:09 PM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Nothing is more frustrating than not only playing against such an apponent that you also have to babysit them as well with rule regulations and such.

Rod.

Don't you often lose to them too? Razz

Yes but thats besides the point! Embarassed

DarkDancer17 - Apr 14, 2005 - 06:57 AM
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I should be in town for this... will there be a pre-released Rule Packet?

GalakStarscraper - Apr 14, 2005 - 08:13 AM
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DarkDancer17 wrote:

I should be in town for this... will there be a pre-released Rule Packet?

Website should be fully up and running by the end of next week with all the information.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Apr 15, 2005 - 06:02 AM
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DarkDancer17 wrote:

I should be in town for this... will there be a pre-released Rule Packet?

Website up and running now with the info:

http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/GenCon.html

Also I updated the first post of this thread for this information as well.

Galak

Xeterog - Apr 15, 2005 - 06:45 PM
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Quote:

The tournament will be 5 rounds of Swiss. Starting team will be 1,000,000. You will allowed your choice of giving 2 players each a normal skill or one player a doubles roll skill or mutation after rounds 1, 3, and 5

so, what is the point of getting 2 skills after the last game?

Clan_Skaven - Apr 15, 2005 - 08:31 PM
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I guess I won't be attending the GEN CON now. I just learned today that even though my work record is relativly spotless, I have been told that I do not fit with the direction that the Casino is headed.....

My employee # was 68, started 3 months before the place opened, 8 years ago, & apparently none of that matters at all. So with that said & done, I'll have no reason to justify to attend any BB tourneys in the near future!

Sorry if you guys don't see me online much anymore, but I may not have the internet for the time being...

Bye to you guys hope you all well, I guess I'll see you someday....

Rod.

snew - Apr 15, 2005 - 11:30 PM
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Dang Rod. I can't tell you how sorry I am to hear that.

VBZ - Apr 16, 2005 - 04:13 AM
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WTF!!! Dude.. that really blows.

Colin - Apr 16, 2005 - 07:44 AM
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That sucks! Hope you find another job really soon. I really wanted to be able to meet you at a tourney this year. Maybe someday in the future, who knows? Good luck Rod.

GalakStarscraper - Apr 18, 2005 - 07:50 AM
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Gortex wrote:

Quote:

so, what is the point of getting 2 skills after the last game?

HAH ... okay ... that's a typo ... I'll get that fixed.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Apr 18, 2005 - 07:51 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Dang Rod. I can't tell you how sorry I am to hear that.

What snots said ... says it all for me as well.

Never had a BB player offer to rough up a Convention Organizer before ... you'll be missed this year Rod.

Galak

Da_Scum - Apr 18, 2005 - 08:53 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

snotsngrots wrote:

Dang Rod. I can't tell you how sorry I am to hear that.

What snots said ... says it all for me as well.

Never had a BB player offer to rough up a Convention Organizer before ... you'll be missed this year Rod.

Galak

Damnit there goes one of my wins! Laughing

Maybe I should have him tied up and placed on the roof rack? Shocked

Melifaxis - Apr 18, 2005 - 09:13 AM
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That stinks Rod Sad

Play $1 in the slots as you leave and hit it big and wipe the smug look off their faces as you take lots of their $$$ out the door Wink

Hope you land on your feet soon! Very Happy

Clan_Skaven - Apr 18, 2005 - 06:04 PM
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Thanks to all of you that responded to my recent bad luck. I am doing much better & quite possibly have another job lined up. As far as my wrongfull termination at the Casino goes, well thats in the Lawyers hands now.

As for any BB tourneys, who knows. I'd really love to attend the GEN CON, but probably not.

I really appriciate all the support you all have given me (any more & I probably would cry Crying or Very sad

). Soon I'll bounce back, but in the near future I'll probably have no internet acces.

Thanks again to all of you....

Your never-ending BB friend for life, ...

Rod.

CyberHare - Apr 18, 2005 - 06:33 PM
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Rod don't give up on GenCon. I'll be going no matter what so I'm sure we can work something out. You're always welcome in my car. Well ok as long as you leave the "Snorta" at home Wink

Da_Scum - Apr 19, 2005 - 08:28 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

Rod don't give up on GenCon. I'll be going no matter what so I'm sure we can work something out. You're always welcome in my car. Well ok as long as you leave the "Snorta" at home Wink

This is otherwise known as "traveling in the Thong-mobile". Rolling Eyes

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 19, 2005 - 09:29 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

CyberHare wrote:

Rod don't give up on GenCon. I'll be going no matter what so I'm sure we can work something out. You're always welcome in my car. Well ok as long as you leave the "Snorta" at home Wink

This is otherwise known as "traveling in the Thong-mobile". Rolling Eyes

rofl!!!

AnthonyTBBF - Apr 19, 2005 - 12:54 PM
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Great, I'll be needing therapy after having that image in my head.

snew - Apr 19, 2005 - 01:43 PM
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Come to GenCon and be scarred for life. Maybe we can all ge a chorous line going and we'll do the cancan.

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 19, 2005 - 02:49 PM
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not in life... maybe for drop dead money but otherwise....

not in life...

Xtreme - Apr 19, 2005 - 09:59 PM
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I'm not sure this is the kind of selling point that is going to get people to come to GenCon. Though we would be selling a lot more NAF Thongs.

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 20, 2005 - 05:05 AM
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this is NOT what I had in mind when I talk about "added revenue streams" for the NAF, X... Very Happy

KarlLagerbottom - Apr 20, 2005 - 05:36 AM
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We should change the name of this thread to "Running Thong Joke" or "One Trick Pony." Seriously...it's not that funny and enough is enough...

Sincerely,
Hoping People Start Working On New Material

EDIT: Gee I hope Cisqo shows up at GenCon as a featured performer.

Clan_Skaven - Apr 20, 2005 - 10:01 AM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Well we could just bring back the Passport jokes again! Laughing

Rod

snew - Apr 20, 2005 - 12:23 PM
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I'm wearing a thong in my passport photo. You have to take my word for it though.

GalakStarscraper - Apr 20, 2005 - 12:32 PM
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Speaking of more NAF Revenue ... I had not seen the Got Block T-shirt in the store until they showed up at the Slaughter ... definitely going to go buy one of those.

Galak

jaylazer - Apr 20, 2005 - 12:35 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

Speaking of more NAF Revenue ... I had not seen the Got Block T-shirt in the store until they showed up at the Slaughter ... definitely going to go buy one of those.

My wife got one for me for my Birthday. I donned it for the first time at the Phrakus.

Melifaxis - Apr 20, 2005 - 12:38 PM
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There will be one as a prize at the Brouhaha. I figure I did the NAF logo last year so this time I'll do the Got Block? one Very Happy

I'd order an extra one for myself now too except I'm too busy making indirect deposits to GL's (George Lucas) bank account Wink

VBZ - Apr 20, 2005 - 01:36 PM
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I was thingking about a new design for an NAF t-shirt:

PIC OF NAF THONG
"GOT THONG?"
LOL!! Okay, okay, I'll drop it now... Baby!! That th-th-th-th-thong! Sorry about that- Rob brought up Cisco and I could'nt get that dump song out of my head. ( Taking a deep breath) I'm good now.

Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 20, 2005 - 04:23 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

Speaking of more NAF Revenue ... I had not seen the Got Block T-shirt in the store until they showed up at the Slaughter ... definitely going to go buy one of those.

Galak

They're starting to show up more and more.... Mrs. IronMike, Rachel, had one that I thought looked great...

Xtreme - Apr 20, 2005 - 09:15 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:

There will be one as a prize at the Brouhaha. I figure I did the NAF logo last year so this time I'll do the Got Block? one Very Happy

I'd order an extra one for myself now too except I'm too busy making indirect deposits to GL's (George Lucas) bank account Wink

Just to see how horribly off topic I can take this, are you coming to Indy for the Celebration? If so you want to get a game of bloodbowl in?

Melifaxis - Apr 20, 2005 - 10:00 PM
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I wish I was able to on both counts Sad

This move killed me on that front. $$$

Zarhan - May 14, 2005 - 06:05 AM
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Gen Con Suspended Link from above. Just looking for rules for convention. I seen on the data excel a tourney, but it looks like an elimination tourney, I thought this was a swiss style, or it was the last 2 Gen Cons, let me know.

Bobbo Confused

jaylazer - May 14, 2005 - 08:03 PM
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It is definitely a 5 round swiss style tournament.

I think it's basically LRB 4.0 with about 5-8 specific changes. Most of which I don't remember at all.

GalakStarscraper - May 14, 2005 - 08:04 PM
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zarhan wrote:

http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/GenCon.html

Its up and running guys if you have questions let me know.

Galak

Zarhan - May 14, 2005 - 09:43 PM
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Thanx, see you there...

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 03, 2005 - 09:04 PM
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I'm official! I know it's still a little ways away...but I bought my ticket today and I am pretty excited.

-RobO

SkavenBoy - Jun 19, 2005 - 02:12 AM
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Hey guys,

the link is down apparantly. I attended last year and thinking about going this year, but i wanted to see the rules. I have 3 other players from Arkansas that are thinking about going as well, but i need to show them the rules for the tourny. Can someone email them to me or maybe just get the site back up.

Just wondering.

Xeterog - Jun 19, 2005 - 04:38 PM
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the link works for me..

http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/GenCon.html

SkavenBoy - Jun 19, 2005 - 05:52 PM
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I got it to work, probably just a problem on my end. Hope to see you guys there.

Xtreme - Jun 19, 2005 - 10:50 PM
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Woohoo, I preregistered this year.

Ben - Jul 08, 2005 - 07:49 AM
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Sorry if this has been asked already but i haven't been on these forums in a while and i'm to lazy to look but is anyone coming from Canada?

I am trying to make it out this year and not sure if i should drive fly or walk?

I wouldn't mind carpooling if someone plans on driving.

Let me know.

Ben

snew - Jul 08, 2005 - 01:16 PM
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Ask Cyberhare.

If you make it I'm really going to be sorry to have missed it! Sad

Hoshi_Komi - Jul 08, 2005 - 01:40 PM
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hell i might make it......was hoping to see you again.....

Ben - Jul 08, 2005 - 02:38 PM
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Snots, you not coming dude? You suck!

What could possibly be more important than Bloodbowl and me?

Gken - It be nice to see you again and kick some mummy a$$, oh and deliver the vamps for ya Wink

snew - Jul 08, 2005 - 04:42 PM
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Nothing.

Unfortunately, I'm moving house. It's a fixer and needs total interior paint and carpet pulled up/ floors sanded and sealed... window coverings. $$$ and time are both in short supply this August.

It's definatley not a matter of importance.

Seannewboy - Jul 08, 2005 - 04:51 PM
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So paint and do the rest next year, whats more important? Wink

CyberHare - Jul 08, 2005 - 05:35 PM
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Ben wrote:

What could possibly be more important than Bloodbowl and me?

Lets see my list of things more important than Ben.... Very Happy

Gencon is about soooooooo much more than BB. Don't get me wrong, after all I do drive 16 hours to be the odd man out for the tourney. But the dealer room alone is bigger in square footage than the football stadium. As Martha Stewart would say, "It's a good thing".

I sent you a PM about getting a lift.

Old_Man_Monkey - Jul 09, 2005 - 02:39 AM
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Also, if the ride from Brian doesn't work out, I'd be willing to drive up from Tampa if you'd be willing to fly into Tampa the week before... ( I know you're on vacation the next week in the Bay area but parting even for one day from that beautiful lass of yours... well, I'll understand!)

I'm either going to pick up a rental and drive from Tampa or fly in and get a rental there... I'll be at the Marriott Courtyard should you decide to come...

KarlLagerbottom - Jul 09, 2005 - 05:30 AM
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Just out of curiosity...what races are folks thinking of playing at GenCon?

-Rob

For me...I'm being torn in a few different directions...varying from Chaos Dwarfs to Goblins...Ogres to some form of Undead. No wait...maybe Ratz. Orcs? GRR...can't decide! Mad

P.S. Anyone out there thinking of bringing along a Star Player?

Spazzfist - Jul 09, 2005 - 07:42 AM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

P.S. Anyone out there thinking of bringing along a Star Player?

Well apparently Ben is thinking of going, isn't he a bitof a star player? (if only in his own mind!) Razz

Spazz

Ben - Jul 09, 2005 - 08:27 AM
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Quote:

Also, if the ride from Brian doesn't work out, I'd be willing to drive up from Tampa if you'd be willing to fly into Tampa the week before...

OMM - I think the trip to Tampa may be cancelled, the couple we were so supposed to go with are no longer able to make it and the whole reason for going in August was because of them. I would much rather head down there when it's -100 here.

So i will probably be coming down with Cyberhare.

And Yes Spazzfist, the only starplayer i'll be bringing to the tourney is myself. Wink

Looking forward to kicking some more American A$$.

Ben Out

KarlLagerbottom - Jul 09, 2005 - 08:30 AM
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Quote:

And Yes Spazzfist, the only starplayer i'll be bringing to the tourney is myself. Wink

Looking forward to kicking some more American A$$.

Ben Out

Ben-
I might consider your better half a Star Player, but you...you're a Freebooter at best. Smile

-Rob

Colin - Jul 09, 2005 - 09:23 AM
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Does anyone have any room for me to stay with them? Let me know as well as the costs for staying from Wed through Sat nights (via PM would probably be best). Thanks.

Hoshi_Komi - Jul 09, 2005 - 12:23 PM
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Ben wrote:

Looking forward to kicking some more American A$$.

Ben Out

just like at TKC II???

Very Happy

Colin - Jul 10, 2005 - 09:11 AM
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Anyone have any room for me to stay???? Please let me know.

I have registered for the Con and the tourney and booked my flight, arriving 1:34;m on Wed, Aug 17.....hey is there anyone out there willing to pick me up at the airport? Never been to Indy before don't know where the Convension ceter is (or how far away the airport is, etc).

Ben - Jul 11, 2005 - 11:41 AM
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gken1 wrote:

Ben wrote:

Looking forward to kicking some more American A$$.

Ben Out

just like at TKC II???

Very Happy

Don't remind me.

Ben - Jul 11, 2005 - 02:38 PM
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Any1 looking for a roomate?

Let me know.

Old_Man_Monkey - Jul 12, 2005 - 08:13 AM
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about hotel rooms...

@Torg: looks like you're in, according to jaylazer's post on H-Rulez...

@Ben: contact jaylazer, either here or on the H-R site - they may still have some room left... I'll vouch for ya!

jaylazer - Jul 12, 2005 - 08:21 AM
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I've sent both Torg and Ben a PM about the room.

GalakStarscraper - Jul 12, 2005 - 03:16 PM
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Wolfgang is returning and with CyberHare giving Ben a lift that means the 2 guys who have placed in the top 3 in the last 2 years at GenCon are returning. I love that ... makes the caliber of the tournament kicked up a notch.

Ken if you can make it ... you'll have some good folks to play on the top tables.

Galak

CyberHare - Jul 12, 2005 - 03:26 PM
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You're thinking of a different Ben Very Happy

The Ben you're thinking of (dang I can't remember his last name right now) lives here in Montreal and though he may indeed be there I'm not givng him a lift. The Ben I'll be driving is the Toronto Ben of the TBBF, Ben Tusim.

Sniff. All I am to you is a taxi sevice Sad

He he

Tom I answered you email abouit the event tickets last week but never heard back from you? Was everything ok?

Ben - Jul 12, 2005 - 04:14 PM
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Nontheless, i will be at the top table where i feel most comfortable Wink

snew - Jul 12, 2005 - 10:37 PM
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Kick some ass brother!

snew - Jul 12, 2005 - 10:38 PM
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Damn pussified message board

Old_Man_Monkey - Jul 12, 2005 - 11:01 PM
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you're such a bad a...., mutha f...., erm, person....

SkavenBoy - Jul 15, 2005 - 01:14 PM
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Last year, my first, i was in 3rd going into the last game and Wolfgang's chaos dwarves pummelled my poor Skaven team to elevate his team to 1st. I fully expect to return to at least the 2nd table as long as i don't have to face Wolfgang early.

Needless to say, i'll be bringing my Skaven team.

Xtreme - Jul 16, 2005 - 02:28 AM
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Pretty sure Wolfgang had an undead squad. Wink

Old_Man_Monkey - Jul 16, 2005 - 05:49 AM
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yep, that's right... he's played undead for the past two years, and is one of the best players I've seen and/or played against... our final was one of the most fun matches I've ever had...

Spazzfist - Jul 16, 2005 - 10:48 AM
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Ben,

Could you PM me with how much you think that the trip is going to put you out? (Gas, hotels, etc)

I would really like to be able to make it, as the only tourney that I have attended this year was my own! But as always, money is one of the deciding factors.

Ben - Aug 05, 2005 - 02:16 PM
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Well i am coming down with the Montral gang on wednesday, Aug 17 and i havn't really confirmed a place to stay.

Who needs a roomate that doesn't have 6 people in the room already and Brian (Xtreme) does your offer still stand for the couch?

Let me know.

Ben

CyberHare - Aug 05, 2005 - 02:51 PM
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Yer sleepin at the Con Laughing

They have lots of nice benches with a view of the city on the second floor Razz

GalakStarscraper - Aug 06, 2005 - 02:10 PM
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Ben wrote:

Who needs a roomate that doesn't have 6 people in the room already and Brian (Xtreme) does your offer still stand for the couch?

I think they have a 24 hour gaming room that you could pretend to be playing in if you are okay with sleeping in a chair ... Laughing

Galak

Xtreme - Aug 07, 2005 - 09:14 PM
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Ben wrote:

Who needs a roomate that doesn't have 6 people in the room already and Brian (Xtreme) does your offer still stand for the couch?

Let me know.

Ben

Yeah its still free if you want it.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 12, 2005 - 11:23 AM
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No love on talkbloodbowl.com

Did you guys notice that the thread for GenCon is getting no love from the TBB crowd?

snew - Aug 12, 2005 - 11:23 AM
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TBB is dead

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 12, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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Really?

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 12, 2005 - 10:30 PM
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well i'm out ...... can't take time away from the kid without the wife going wacky. ......concentrating on Death Bowl now with outside shot at Chaos Cup.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 13, 2005 - 09:00 AM
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Boo!!! Another "Khemri Free" zone at GenBowl 2005?

BAH!

Sorry to hear that Ken, but we understand. I'll see you at Death Bowl 3!

Colin - Aug 13, 2005 - 09:22 AM
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Hey, just bring your kid along. Wink

Just say it's a life size halfling mini. Very Happy

nyghtmare - Aug 13, 2005 - 07:04 PM
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If I get my ogres in time, I should be playing them. If not, it's a surprise Smile

GalakStarscraper - Aug 13, 2005 - 10:16 PM
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gken1 wrote:

well i'm out ...... can't take time away from the kid without the wife going wacky. ......concentrating on Death Bowl now with outside shot at Chaos Cup.

Bummer ... was looking forward to seeing you play Wolfgang.

Galak

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 14, 2005 - 11:27 AM
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yeah. I wanted to get there this year since it'd be my last chance at gencon most likely.

snew - Aug 15, 2005 - 11:12 AM
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What's this?!? Ken says he's out and you all understand. I say I'm out and I get a ration of s#!+! Evil or Very Mad

Colin - Aug 15, 2005 - 05:42 PM
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Everyone loves you more than Ken....oops did I say that out loud....didn't mean it Ken, everyone loves you too. Wink

Xtreme - Aug 15, 2005 - 09:49 PM
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I think its that we are all secretly afraid of Ken kicking our asses, where as with snots we know better. Wink

CyberHare - Aug 16, 2005 - 03:37 AM
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Bahh. Ken's not impossible to beat. I did it. Couldn't do it twice in a row mind you.

AMAZONS RULE!

Very Happy

StoutYoungblood - Aug 16, 2005 - 08:02 AM
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I was at Chaos Cup 2004 and saw Ken lose to a friend's Skaven team for the Championship game. Yet, chaotically enough, had more points to win overall and take the title for the Chaos Cup. Worship

Melifaxis - Aug 16, 2005 - 09:10 AM
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But at the end of the day Ken doesn't have the Hand of Roze-El Razz

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 16, 2005 - 09:14 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:

But at the end of the day Ken doesn't have the Hand of Roze-El Razz

lol...I had it though Smile

lost it only cuz I wasn't there Smile

and I should be there next year to win it back Smile

Damn you VOODOO!

nyghtmare - Aug 16, 2005 - 03:50 PM
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Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock....

The time is almost here....

Tick, Tock, Tick, Tock....

Are you READY?!?!?

MightyZug - Aug 16, 2005 - 04:29 PM
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Who Hoo!

I'm going to make it to GenCon for the first time ever!

I was a little hesitant to attend another Galak tourny after what happened in South Bend. After playing the best blood bowl of my life I lost the most casualties trophy on some obscure technicality that I still don't quite understand.

Galak was sayin' something about casualties against not countin' but I wasn't really listening anyway...

Looking forward to maintaining my tradition of playing the best zero elf defense in the NAF.

I noticed that someone had made the offer of playing for pints. I think I'm going to need to bring more moolah.

Xtreme lookin' forward to seeing you again, this time in your hometown. I don't think Absent or Majortusk are goind to make it, but I'll be representing Madison, albeit poorly.

Looking forward to playing everyone and remember anyone who plays an AV 7 squad is someone you need to buy a round for!

Xtreme - Aug 16, 2005 - 05:42 PM
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Good to hear Zug, have a safe trip down. I'll be playing woodies at Gencon so you won't getting much help from me on your most CAS award. Wink

Colin - Aug 16, 2005 - 06:20 PM
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WOOOTT!!!!

I will be leaving in the morning!! I can hardly wait!!!

This is going to be great!!!

I'm so stoked!!!!! (If you haven't figured that out already)

Still trying to figure out what team I'm going to take.

Melifaxis - Aug 16, 2005 - 10:53 PM
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Have a blast gents Very Happy

GalakStarscraper - Aug 17, 2005 - 08:10 AM
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Good to have you down MightyZug ... if you've never been to GenCon before ... its quite an experience ... the dealer room is an entire shopping mall just for gamers.

Galak

Clan_Skaven - Aug 18, 2005 - 01:51 PM
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I was really looking forward to attending my second Gen-Con in a row, but working in my new carreer, making a considerable less amount of $$$ & paying a great deal more $$$ in rent = No Gen-Con this year. But who knows what 2006 brings.

Good luck to all that entered! Go Canada (Ben, Cyber-Hare, & Torg + whoever else that is competing that is CDN!)

I look forward to kicking all yer butts at the 2005 D-B in Montreal this Oct.

to everyone have a blast at the Con, I know I did last year, it was awsome!

P.S. Galak, if you need help with any unruley Con Geek Organisers again, then just let me know & I'll see what muscle I can do from up here!

Rod

Torpor - Aug 19, 2005 - 03:15 AM
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Good luck to everyone. I hope that everyone gets there safely and has a great time. As Ken would say Woot! Wink

snew - Aug 19, 2005 - 02:12 PM
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Have fun guys. Hopefully both Rod and I can make it next year.

GalakStarscraper - Aug 21, 2005 - 07:57 AM
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Good tournament ... 53 players ended up playing ... a nice turn out.

Darthoir won Best Sportsman again ... and Xtreme won Best Painted again.

Wolfgang however did not win the tournament for the 3rd time in a row. He met in the final (5th) game the only player who had never lost a game after playing the last 3 years of GenCon .... my brother, Dennis.

Wolfgang's record at GenCon at that point was (10/0/1 W/T/L) ... TDs for/against (27-3)
Dennis's record at GenCon at that point was (8/4/0 W/T/L) ... TDs for/against (26-10)

A very tight game ... first half was grueling. Back and forth see-saw with neither team gaining the advantage. Late in the first half, the ball comes lose and bounces to Dennis's Kroxigor ... who roll a 6 to grab it ... and he's only 5 squares from the endzone. Wolfgang proceeds to surround the Kroxigor. Dennis tries to free him up ... but to no available. Wolfgang finally manages to knock down the Kroxigor ... but an Injury Time roll on the opening kickoff that took off one turn left Wolfgang with not enough time to finish a scoring drive.

Second Half ... Wolfgang has eliminated all but one of Dennis's Skinks so Dennis is fielding only 8 players and Wolfgang's Amazons are fielding 10. Dennis covers Wolfgang well and forces Wolfgang to a running game instead of a passing one. Eventually Dennis opens a whole big enough for his Tackle Saurus to get a blitz at the Amazon ball carriers and knock her down in Wolfgang's back field. The ball scatters to a Saurus who rolls the 6 to catch it ... he's 3 squares from the end zone and hasn't moved yet ... Dennis chooses to forego any 2 dice blocks on the 'zons to get the score ... 1-0 Dennis. Dennis has taken out 4 more Zons during his drive and 2 Skinks recover from KO, so its 10 Lizardmen vs 6 Amazons. Wolfgang has 3 turns to score the equalizer, he stages a quick pentration running drive and looks like he might be able to pull off the tie. Dennis has really only one chance of stopping the scoring drive. He covers the other Amazons with his superior numbers and has the Kroxigor blitz the ball carrier ... (Bonehead, GFI, GFI, 2 dice block for a Push) ... this moves the ball carrier into a position with the Kroxigor's Prehensile Tail and covering Saurus that means Wolfgang would need a 6+ to dodge the ball carrier to the tying run with 2 rolls (Dodge re-roll). Wolfgang cannot pull off the magic 6 and Dennis manages to take the title of GenCon champion after Wolfgang's 2 year run as Champion.

Now Wolfgang is getting married right before GenCon next year and will be on his honeymoon so he will not be returning next year .... Dennis might not be able to make it as well. So I hope to see a similar sized crowd next year.

Finally ... meeting JJ was great. He gave a very frank and honest Q&A sessions with no BS that I detected based on what I know from other GW-UK contacts I have. It was refreshing when he started the discussion with "I'll not dodge the fact that this has not been a great last year for Specialist Games".

I'm hoping to post more of his discussion points ... but one of the main one's was that GW is considering (PLEASE NOTE ... considering ... not currently creating) a new division of GW that would deal with just GW board games (ie Blood Bowl, Space Hulk, Talisiman, HeroQuest, and hopefully some new products). This was one of the possible ways that Blood Bowl might get more attention and budget money than it currently receives.

The other big surprise ... Blood Bowl is NOT the biggest money maker for Specialist games currently ... its 2nd to Inquistor. That was one of those facts that made me realize how Blood Bowl fits into the overall accounting of GW.

More to follow ... but that's the key stuff for now.

Galak

snew - Aug 21, 2005 - 09:37 AM
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Way to go Darthnoir and Xtreme! I missed you guys this year!

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 21, 2005 - 07:03 PM
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well I made it to GenCon after all Smile

but had one of the worst run of games at tourney play. 3 wins and 2 ties with humans finished tied for fourth on game points with xtreme

I went 5 for 18 on KO rolls and was constantly playing down with players.

My thrower completed 2 of 3 quick passes....I stopped trying to pass after the 1 key failure.

My catchers caught 6 of 10 catch attempts and made 4 of 6 dodges...

so I basically was afraid to do anything with these guys.....

I also got called for time in my first ever tournament game due to the worst opponent I ever played. Worst attitude that is. I went up 2-0 and his good dice and my bad dice let him tie it up but he took so long and also went to take a crap during the game that I only got 6 turns in 2nd half with an attempt to score on turn 7 that was taken away from me.

I really wish I did better in my earlier games to allow me to play the better coaches at Gencon---Wolfgang and Tom's brother.... but my dice failed me and my opponents rolled pretty good. (I don't think any of my opponents failed any GFI's against me......)

I intend to take my frustrations out on Canada at the DEATH BOWL Smile

It was fun to see the TBB crowd though: Galak, Lawquoter, Darthnoir, Torg, Ben, Cyberhare, Karllagerbottom, Jaylazer, OMM, xtreme-----always makes the tournies fun.

Colin - Aug 21, 2005 - 09:51 PM
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Yeah, it was great fun, meeting all the people from TBB and this site who I never met before and to see those I met at earlier tournies. The social aspect is why I go to tourneys, I don't really care what my record is in the tourney, winning isn't the important thing. Ken knows Nuffle sucks, but he won't admit it. I wound up playing the kid who called the IP on Snots last year in my last game. I said to him before we started, "we aren't going to call IP in this game" and he agreed, but he did try to foul me twice on the last turn of the game. He seemed really pissed when I told him, "sorry, only allowed one fowl per turn", I'm sure he gave me the lowest sportsmanship points for that (though only Tom could verify this), but I did the same to him (gave him the lowest sportsmanship award)

Anyway, it was great to see Ken, Jim (OMM), Karl Lagerbottom, Ben, Gortek, and Jervis again and great to meet for the first time; Galak, Lawquoter, Xtreme, Darthnoir, Jaylazer, Val (don't know if he's NAF or not), and so many others I can't remember.
It was kinda expensive but a great time. Don't know if I'll be able to afford it next year, but if I can swing it and get the time off, I'll probably be back.
It was a very new experience for me as I never attended a BB tourney at a convention before, completely different atmospher than a stand alone tourney. If I go back next year, I'll definately be doing more things at the Con (when I'm not playing BB).

snew - Aug 21, 2005 - 10:44 PM
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gken1 wrote:

I also got called for time in my first ever tournament game due to the worst opponent I ever played. Worst attitude that is. I went up 2-0 and his good dice and my bad dice let him tie it up but he took so long and also went to take a crap during the game that I only got 6 turns in 2nd half with an attempt to score on turn 7 that was taken away from me.

Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.

He never took a crap on me (not like that Torg you sick-o! Wink

) but I needed 45 second turns for most of the second half just so he could agonize for 5 minutes over whether he was going to pass from this square or do 1 GFI or other trivial such things. Gaaah. I hate opponents like that.

Paul - Aug 22, 2005 - 06:14 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.

Can't be as bad as a guy I played up in Ottawa. I'd say my turn was done, and he'd stare at the board for 5 minutes. I wasn't even sure if he heard me say my turn was done and was sitting there waiting for me to make another move, I'd remind him, and he'd say "yea, I know."

So, after 6 or 7 minutes of agony, his brilliant tactic that he comes up with... "My lineman will hit your Ogre" with no assists. Skull

I think once he actually hit with his Catcher. There is no emoticon that expressed my frustration at this.

Overall, sounds like it was a great tourney. I hope to be able to make it down next year.

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 06:22 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:

gken1 wrote:

Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.

He never took a crap on me (not like that Torg you sick-o! Wink

No this was a Lizardman coach. And to back up what Ken was saying ... all of his opponent's gave him dead last for sportsmanship ... so it wasn't just Ken who found him not the greatest opponent.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 08:02 AM
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Since folks wonder about such things. When trying decide what to use at a tournament.

Here were the rosters for the winners at GenCon this year:

1st - Lizardmen - Kroxigor; 6 Saurus; 4 Skink; 2 re-roll; 3 FF

2nd - Skaven - Rat Ogre; 5 Linemen; 3 Gutter Runner; 2 Storm Vermin; 1 Thrower; 2 re-roll; 1 FF

3rd - Amazon - 4 Blitzer; 2 Catcher; 5 Linewomen; 4 re-roll; 4 FF; 1 Apothecary

Galak

Zarhan - Aug 22, 2005 - 09:14 AM
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I had a great time, although I was killed by skaven in the first round (NUFFLE and 1 major mistake on my part), coupled with a GREAT Skaven coach spelled doom. I came back to win my next four games in some really close and fun games.
As for the 5 game format, it went really well, and contrary to my first thoughts I was impressed with the times you run it.
Seems to me that only two real problems came up @ GenCon. 1st Slow players (it will happen), there is always a timer guys. And second table arrangements. It seems the BB doesn't receive much respect when tables are handed out. I am unsure if this is because we start Friday or simply bad management on there parts, either way, I will be offering to put in a word with the staff that is controlling the room, when I arrive on Thursday, as it is possible others including Tom may not arrive until Friday, let me know, I have no problem informing them of our numbers and the like, to try to get us all together.
I feel bad for Wolfgang, as I know how it is to be the top dog, and EVERYONE rooting for you to loose, I look forward to my opportunity to play him someday, darn I do have to win the first round for that.
I hadn't really looked over the rules, but with the new rules for Pitch Invasion, I can see a potential return with Elves for me, as I don't have to worry so much about losing so many players on a kickoff.

Anyways, Great Job Tom, I will continue to try to get my teams on the plaque.
And NAF REPs, the dice are way cooler this year, that pinkish color is for the birds.

Bobbo

Melifaxis - Aug 22, 2005 - 09:27 AM
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Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking?

Colin - Aug 22, 2005 - 09:38 AM
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There was Jervis....and me of course. Wink

Not to forget Wolfgang, 2 times GenCon Bowl winner. Cool

jaylazer - Aug 22, 2005 - 09:46 AM
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I had a great time at Gen Con as a whole and the tournament in particular.

Always good to hang with the old crew and the new faces. I'm struggling through work today with only 2 hours of sleep last night (not counting the hour we got while parked on the PA turnpike for a bad accident).

zarhan: I think I was your first opponent (Team name: Skurvy). That game was fun. Even though the score didn't show it you played well. That one mistake really made the difference in the game. Hope we can play again next year.

Melifaxis wrote:

Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking?

I saw 5 stars there. Zug, Zara, Nobbla, and 2 Deathrollers. There might have been more but I didn't hear about them.

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 10:01 AM
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jaylazer wrote:

Melifaxis wrote:

Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking?

I saw 5 stars there. Zug, Zara, Nobbla, and 2 Deathrollers. There might have been more but I didn't hear about them.

The one Deathroller was a turn marker only (Ben's team). So there were 5 stars total out of 53 teams ... Zug, Zara, Nobbla, Deathroller, and Hhtark.

GenCon has allowed Star Players for 3 years in a row now. And in all 3 years not a single team with a Star Player has taken home any of the gaming trophies (1st, 2nd, 3rd/MVP, Most CAS, Most TDs, or Fewest TDs allowed). So after 3 years, I honestly believe that Stars aren't broken as long as your rules balance them out. Allowing them into tournaments at the one-off LRB 4.0 price is just fine IMO. I also like allowing Stars because in my opinion it makes the two Stunty teams viable for tournament play.

Galak

Ben - Aug 22, 2005 - 10:46 AM
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I had great time!

It was my first time at Gencon and i think Tom ran a great tourney!

I was Glad to see such a large turn out.

As fun as the tourney was, i had even more fun socializing with all the great coaches. You guys are what make the game that much more fun and worth the drive from Toronto.

I had a great time with my roomates who for a couple of them was the first time i met and just thought they were a great group of guys.

And i want to mostly thank my pinky buddy Ken. Thanks for looking out for me, much appreciated.

To top off the great tourney we had a great Dethbowl match on Saturday which included myself, Ken, Rob, and Jay with Joe being the guy to roll for scattering the ball whenever neccessary. Congrats to Rob for winning it and taking home the poker chip as a great prize...oh and Ken your a jerk.

Hope to see you all at the Deathbowl for some more memorable times.

DEATHBOWL ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ben

SolarFlare - Aug 22, 2005 - 11:10 AM
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It was a great tourney. Thanks Tom for running it.

More table space would have been nice. Is there an email address we can write to voice our opinion on not having enough table space. (I know we managed, but packing it in so tight was uncomfortable.)

My one complaint is this: Since all of my opponents were cool, it didn't seem right to give anyone a 3, 4, or 5 for sportsmanship. Next year, can sportsmanship change, so that we can give 3-5 average scores with an optional "really cool" and an optional "really not cool" slot--for those times when it is merited.

Thanks to all of my opponents and another thanks to Tom.

Justin_Kase - Aug 22, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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gken1 wrote:

It was fun to see the TBB crowd though: Galak, Lawquoter, Darthnoir, Torg, Ben, Cyberhare, Karllagerbottom, Jaylazer, OMM, xtreme-----always makes the tournies fun.

I tell ya, I give up my spot in the bed for ya and get forgotten.. sheesh Razz

Yeah Torg, I don't really post often, but I'm here Wink

I was great to see everyone (even Ken) and it was nice to add to the circel of friends with Ben & Torg. This was one great trip (despite lack of sleep) and I had a blast at the tourney (even with the 1-4 record) and just hanging out playing Sabatour and the like.

Lawquoter, did you ever manage to finish all that beer??

Ben, you forgot to take the Sabatour game, do you want me to mail it to you?????

See y'all next year - hope Snots and Mrinprophet make it as well, they were missed!!!

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 11:55 AM
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SolarFlare wrote:

My one complaint is this: Since all of my opponents were cool, it didn't seem right to give anyone a 3, 4, or 5 for sportsmanship.

JJ and I discussed this ... the bottom line is that there is no good way I've ever seen to do sportsmanship that accomplish two different things at once.

a) Gives you an accurate representation of how sporting each player was.
b) Removes as much risk as possible of too many points being gained/lost to player's delibrately marking an opponent inaccurately (to get them to win or to lose).

The GenCon method is the best I've found to hit both. Since Sportsmanship is only used for 2 of the trophies ... its impact is not overwhelming. So yeah ... its sucks to give someone who wasn't that bad a 5, but then the system is built so that one 5 most likely won't cost him the tournament. The lowest score is half as well as the highest score (and then rounded up) ... so in effect the lowest score a player receives at MOST will cost them 6 points vs someone who gets all best ratings.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 11:55 AM
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Final results are now up for 2005.

http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/GenCon.html

Galak

Justin_Kase - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:19 PM
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Did I actually get 50 points for Sportsmanship???

Thanks for getting the stats up so quickly!!!

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:30 PM
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ok......VAL gets his own post Smile

great hangin with you......

I'm sure I forgot other people too.....

Justin_Kase - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:35 PM
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But no one nearly as important Wink

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:35 PM
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Justin_Kase wrote:

Did I actually get 50 points for Sportsmanship???

Thanks for getting the stats up so quickly!!!

Yeah ... actually Val I owe you a prize for that. We didn't give overlapping trophy awards so since you won Most CAS that meant Marcus's 49 points gave him Best Sportsman.

Next year I'll have a rule that what order trophies will be determined in and that winning a trophy means your results are not eligible for the next in line ... BUT I didn't do that this year and it was my oversight that I forgot to mention your 50 points ... which is my bad.

So I owe you some a pack of mins. I'll PM you and work out what you'd like to have.

Also ... your sportsmanship score was fascinating.

4 1st places and 1 5th:
(14/2)+(14*3)+(2/1)=50 points

I honestly cannot tell from the sheet of the player who gave you a 5th if he was giving you a 5th or got confused and thought he was awarding points (in which case 5 points would be the best). (please note everyone that it says on the bottom of the score sheet that 1 is best and 5 is worst) ... anyway ... yeah you had 50 points.

Galak

Justin_Kase - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:41 PM
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Could also be that one guy really really didn't enjoy playing me - but I like the optimism that he may have intended to do just the opposite Wink

No problem, it was just a shocker to me as I didn't realize I had been that high..

I'd love some of the other Chaos All Star minis - if that is possible. If not, no worries Smile

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 12:45 PM
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Justin_Kase wrote:

Thanks for getting the stats up so quickly!!!

I've been so slammed by stuff as of late ... I knew if I didn't get these results posted that it would be a year before I did.

Case in point ... I finally posted the 2003 and 2004 results when I posted the 2005 results ... Laughing

Galak

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 22, 2005 - 02:21 PM
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Ben wrote:

To top off the great tourney we had a great Dethbowl match on Saturday which included myself, Ken, Rob, and Jay with Joe being the guy to roll for scattering the ball whenever neccessary. Congrats to Rob for winning it and taking home the poker chip as a great prize...oh and Ken your a jerk.

Hope to see you all at the Deathbowl for some more memorable times.

DEATHBOWL ROCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ben

this was my most fun game of the con Smile

Sorry Ben......don't like getting scored on Smile

Colin - Aug 22, 2005 - 02:33 PM
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gken1 wrote:

Sorry Ben......don't like getting scored on Smile

That's not what I heard, you and Joe sharing a bed Sat night, maybe Ben joined in, who knows (I'm guessing no one wants to know). Wink

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 22, 2005 - 03:24 PM
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Thanks to Tom for an awesome tournament...I had a blast.
I know that it must sound cliche by now, but it was great seeing you guys again. Not to mention all the new people that I met and got to hear me whine about my dice. (Please note that I was tied for lowest sportsmanship among those coaches that played all five games. Am I really that bad? Wink

)

I would have loved to get in a few more friendly games in, but as Ben mentioned above we did have a chance to play a DeathBowl match with four Skaven teams. Win or lose this was the single best game of the weekend...and I am looking forward to the Death Bowl 3 in Montreal. For anyone who has never tried this BloodBowl variant...I strongly recommend it. If it sounds great on paper...you have no idea until you take the pitch!

Thanks again everyone...look forward to seeing you in October!

-Rob

---

P.S. Now with a bit of practical DeathBowl experience under my belt, I can say with absolute certainty that Halflings will NOT be making the trip accross the border.

P.P.S. Another Thanks to Tom for recovering my Dice Cup...I think some Galak magic must have rubbed off on it. I used it that night in our little SewerBowl match..I think that those who were there to witness the game can attest to the impact that it had on the game. Smile

Xtreme - Aug 22, 2005 - 06:17 PM
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Another great GenCon. Thanks Galak for all the work you put into it, it definatly shows. Worship

Great seeing everyone again, hope even more of you can make it out next year.

After playing Val I was very happy to see him get most CAS, even late in the game when I was telling him to foul he still wouldn't.

One thing about the sportsmanship points Tom. Marcus and I agreed that there needs to be a more discreet way of doing it for those people who want to rank the last person they played as their worst. Confused

Thanks to everyone that voting for my team in painting.

snew - Aug 22, 2005 - 06:19 PM
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Justin_Kase wrote:

No problem, it was just a shocker to me as I didn't realize I had been that high..

Yeah. Being high will do that to you. Razz

GalakStarscraper - Aug 22, 2005 - 08:55 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

One thing about the sportsmanship points Tom. Marcus and I agreed that there needs to be a more discreet way of doing it for those people who want to rank the last person they played as their worst. Confused

Its easy ... fill them out AWAY from your opponent and then come back and say "let's go turn in our sheets" and turn them in on the other side of the table ... I just quickly check and it will be away from your opponent.

Galak

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 23, 2005 - 06:30 AM
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Whew, home at last and slept like only a tired old man can sleep... which is sorta like a tired young man - you guys just don't creak when you get out of bed...

Wonderful weekend - great to see all the old friends and make some new ones... like Galak, I'm excited about the possibilities for the game come 2006...

Khemri are definitely NOT my cup of tea so I am resolved to finish painting up Skaven...

But as always, the fellowship of friends was the highlight and the "JJ with margarita" pic may have to be a caption contest... glad to see everyone made it home safely

Great job Tom as always... as others have addressed my concerns, nothing left to say but congrats to Dennis, Xtreme, Marcus, Val, and all the other NATF winners (Courtyard rulez!)...

Until the next time...
OMM

CoachGrodd - Aug 23, 2005 - 06:35 AM
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Hi,

I've had an account here for a while but haven't posted (sort of got out of blood bowl for sheer lack of time for a while.)

Anyway, I played in my first Gencon tourney as well, and it was great to see all these people playing the game and enjoying it. I was running the lone, solitary Nurgle's Rotters team and losing spectacularly (ok, I managed to win 2 games, I guess it could have been worse) but still had a great time anyway. I am curious though why my sportsmanship was so low. I'm hoping it was one of those things where nobody knew me so they gave the edge to people who they were familiar with. Plus, everybody I played against was a great sport, so maybe I just had stiff competition to try and match up against them (I know I had a tough time filling out the card.)

Anyway, I'll probably be around more in the future.

Justin_Kase - Aug 23, 2005 - 09:43 AM
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Yeah, I recall playing against you (1st game I believe - and you were granted a victory from my o so slow Khemri) and I didn't think you lacked anything in Sportsmanship what-so-ever, in fact, the game was rather exciting, despite some frustrating moments on both sides (damn dice). I can't speak to your other games, but I had a very enjoyable game with you and the rotters were a very interesting team - one that I had never seen in a tourney before (so a double bonus there). This year was one of the hardest for giving out Sportsmanship awards for me, I liked Jaylazer's/Karl Lagerbottom's system a little better at Philly Phrakus where you rated all players individually, but you were encouraged to give out only 1 'excellent' score. Maybe Jay or Karl(rob) can speak more on how they did theirs.

darthnoir - Aug 23, 2005 - 10:24 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

Xtreme wrote:

This is probably picking nits, but unless you make it "the policy" for how to turn in the final round sheets it's going to be a problem. People are going to want to know "Why don't you want to show me your sportsmanship rankings? Did you ding me?". And that's going to lead to bad feelings imho.

Unfortunately, my last opponent was the one I rated the lowest points. He saw this and it really upset up him. I actually lost sleep over the thought of ruining someone's experience at the tournament by being honest in my rankings.

As a player, I would just prefer that it was policy to have it either turned in on a separate form or some other mechanism to keep this feedback private.

I do understand that no system is perfect (I'm already agonizing over how to handle this for the Kubla-con tournament I'll hopefully run next year).

jaylazer - Aug 23, 2005 - 10:25 AM
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The way we did it was this:

You rate each opponent on a scale of 1 - 3. I tried to stress that 2 was what was expected. That means the player was as good a sportsman as you expect everyone to be. 1 and 3 are both supposed to be extremes.

We didn't have an limit on the number of 3s or 1s you could give out. I think we will limit it to just one or two 3s. Not sure about the 1s yet. I don't think people give out too many 1s. We'll have to work this out.

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 23, 2005 - 11:38 AM
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My tourney I had people rate their top two opponents. seemed to work OK.

Ombi - Aug 23, 2005 - 11:43 AM
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Yeah, sportsmanship was a really tough choice for me too. All of my opponents were great to play against. I don't like having to give someone last place on my sportsmanship sheet. I like Jaylazers idea, but many people may still give all of their opponents 2's regardless, which would kind of make the voting pointless. I'm guilty of this in my local 40K league with a similar system (giving most people max scores), but I'm trying to change the way I look at the voting there. I don't know, it's hard to get a sportmanship score that everyone's happy with.

I was happy to see some old faces from 2003 Gencon, 2003 Chaos Cup and this year's Gamecon in South Bend. I even faced Cory again this year. I faced his Dwarfs 2 years ago with my Chaos Dwarfs, and we had the rematch in this year's tourney. Thanks to a last minute '1', I managed to preserve the tie. I was sweating though. Smile

I met some fantastic people for the first time too. Ben (Krieg Spielers), Michael (Iron workers), Bob (Jeremiah's Little Dogs) and Ken (Divnie Wind).

Just like the last Gencon I went to, I had a great time. I can't thank Tom enough for running this every year. I hope to be there again next year and I'll try to bring even more local coaches with me.

Jim

GalakStarscraper - Aug 23, 2005 - 11:44 AM
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jaylazer wrote:

My problem is how does this make it any better for what Marcus described unless the player would have received a 2.

Which I guess is what he is saying.

I could go to a system like jay is describing.

You give a 1 to the Most Sporting player.
You give a 2 to a normal player
You give a 3 to poor Sportsman

Each player must award one and only one 1 ... 3s are unlimited.

I might be willing to try that. ... I'll think about it.

Galak

jaylazer - Aug 23, 2005 - 11:53 AM
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Just realized I wasn't clear what a 3 and 1 were.

3 was outstandingly good and 1 was outstandingly bad.

The usual problem with "RATING" systems is that people almost always give max to everyone.

My plan was to only allow people to give max to one person.

I haven't made up my mind whether they should be able to give the bad mark to more than one.

I think that gken1's idea will work pretty much the same as mine. His giving points to the top two is similar to giving max to just one person, since everyone else will have mostly 2s.

I like mine better because it gives the opportunity for bad sportsman to see that and think about why they got marked so low. Not sure if this actually does work but if it helps one person become a better sportsman them I'm happy.

My system doesn't really address Marcus' problem. I did that at my tournament by having the players turn in a sportsmanship form at the end of the tournament. It was completely separate from the game sheets.

Justin_Kase - Aug 23, 2005 - 12:01 PM
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Jay, I would say keep it with being allowed to give unlimited 1's to people, odds are it won't often be used anyway (since we are all so nice Wink

), but if you encounter multiple examples of poor sportsmanship, you should be allowed to reflect that. On the other side, the 3 should be reserved for a single person - essentially, who was the most fun, best sportsman person you played in that tourney. Hopefully it will sort itself out.

jaylazer - Aug 23, 2005 - 12:13 PM
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That's pretty much what I had in mind.

This should allow you to single out the best Sportsman of the tournament but allow poor sportsmanship to show up.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 23, 2005 - 12:52 PM
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I concur.

:ahem:

-RobO

jaylazer - Aug 23, 2005 - 12:58 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

I concur.

:ahem:

-RobO

That saves some time. We don't need to discuss this for next years Phrakus.

GalakStarscraper - Aug 23, 2005 - 01:01 PM
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Just remember with any system proposed it has to work easily for 50+ players who tend to make a lot of screw-ups.

Galak

darthnoir - Aug 23, 2005 - 01:20 PM
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If I had the option of not having a "least sporting player" decision, I probably would have just given my last opponent at 2 and offered him some advice.

But because I had to "find a problem", my last opponent got ranked last. And to be honest, he was far from being the "least sporting player" I've ever played. It was more of a testament on how sporting my other 4 opponents were.

I'm probably not expressing myself very well at the moment.

snew - Aug 23, 2005 - 02:24 PM
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We all know what you mean though.

Ben - Aug 23, 2005 - 02:34 PM
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darthnoir wrote:

I'm just happy you didn't put me down as your least sporting player.

Very Happy

Xeterog - Aug 23, 2005 - 03:20 PM
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Finally got home! (I drove up from Texas, and took my time Wink

...it was a great con (again)...most enjoyable (even when nuffle was getting to me in the last game)...

Thanks Galak for putting on such an excellent event!

GalakStarscraper - Aug 23, 2005 - 05:05 PM
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Okay ... I'm not against trying this system next year.

You have to pick your favorite opponent out of the 5.. .that coach gets a 3. You may only give one coach a 3.

If you have a poor sportsman coach you can give them a 1.

All other coaches receive 2s.

Programming it will be the pain.

Galak

CoachGrodd - Aug 23, 2005 - 05:44 PM
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But hopefully a pain that is worth it, in that it will make the scores truly representative rather than, as some one accurately put it above, having to "look for reasons to rank someone as a 5."

I don't want it to seem like I'm trying to tell you how to run your tournament, though, because that is thoroughly not the case.

And to my Khemri opponent (I believe Marcus told me your name was Val? I'm horrible with names) yes, that was far and away the most fun game I had all tourney (though strangely, the game where my opponent nearly ran me out of players on the pitch was also a lot of fun, go figure.) And the Khemri vase you gave me was one of the coolest things that's happened in the time I've been gaming. I'll be working that into some sort of display for one of my teams (unfortunately, I realized during the tourney there's a reason Nurgle teams are rare) some time in the future.

Hoshi_Komi - Aug 23, 2005 - 06:06 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

I think this sounds the best.----would have worked perfectly for me Wink

the good sportsmen would still get points they deserve while no one else is really punished except the jackasses.

jaylazer - Aug 24, 2005 - 06:14 AM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

The question I have now is, what kind of tournament points would we give for this?

With the amount of points for games, giving 5 to 15 points for sportsmanship wont make much of a difference in the final standings.

What do you guys think?

GalakStarscraper - Aug 24, 2005 - 07:16 AM
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That's where the programming comes in.

A 3 would be equal to 11 points for the tournament. A 2 would be 6 points, and a 3 would be 1 point. Any drops would be automatic 2s worth 6 points. (this assumes a 5 game tournament which I'm still planning on doing).

That's the tricky part of the programming. But I think I can pull it off ... its one of the things I have to do for my job anyway ... complex spreadsheet creation.

Galak

GalakStarscraper - Aug 24, 2005 - 07:35 AM
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Only 6 non-NAF members for GenCon. Just shy of the 48 NAF members from 2003. 47 NAF members playing this year. Very cool. Definitely a positive sign that BB is not cooling off.

Galak

Zarhan - Aug 24, 2005 - 08:19 AM
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Tom,
Bob Fuller is from Blue Island, Illinois, a suburb of Chicago, and his NAF name is zarhan. I'm hoping to make Chaos Cup, but I work midnights, and will need to get it approved for a vacation night on Sunday.

lawquoter - Aug 24, 2005 - 08:42 PM
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Justin_Kase wrote:

Lawquoter, did you ever manage to finish all that beer??

I made a dent. Mr. Green

I'm set for about a month. Wink

Carrying that thing was a b*tch though.

Guys, I had so much fun this year. I love the Philly gang, makes me feel tough to hang out with a bunch of guys that have the "how yoo doin'" accent. Laughing

Of course, I probably sound like cuzin' jed to them. Laughing

OMM was a blast, as always. Meeting JJ was cool.

Ben was a blast to chill with. Same with gken, minus my role as the tackling dummy. Shocked

Hard to believe it was a week ago I headed out. Time flies.

Other tournies are on the schedule, just have to fit in time.

Definitely going to make it 3 years in a row, and I've got to come up with something that gets Xtreme in the painting contest next year. He breaks out the dugout...I'm breaking out the full blown Gencon Bowl stadium!!!

Mwuhahhahaha.... Vampire

Xtreme - Aug 24, 2005 - 09:30 PM
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Definitely going to make it 3 years in a row, and I've got to come up with something that gets Xtreme in the painting contest next year. He breaks out the dugout...I'm breaking out the full blown Gencon Bowl stadium!!!

Can't wait to see it. I've really liked your teams the last two years. Especially the Lakers. I think the laker girls would have helped you out.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 24, 2005 - 09:52 PM
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lawquoter wrote:

Justin_Kase wrote:

Lawquoter, did you ever manage to finish all that beer??

I made a dent. Mr. Green

I'm set for about a month. Wink

Carrying that thing was a b*tch though.

Guys, I had so much fun this year. I love the Philly gang, makes me feel tough to hang out with a bunch of guys that have the "how yoo doin'" accent. Laughing

Of course, I probably sound like cuzin' jed to them. Laughing

OMM was a blast, as always. Meeting JJ was cool.

Ben was a blast to chill with. Same with gken, minus my role as the tackling dummy. Shocked

It sounded great, I hope to go next year. (Last year was a blast)

Rod.

lawquoter - Aug 25, 2005 - 05:40 AM
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Can't wait to see it. I've really liked your teams the last two years. Especially the Lakers. I think the laker girls would have helped you out.

Yeah I know. I don't really care about winning the contest. It's just fun to be nominated and then to lose to you every year. Razz

I need to come up with a good idea, but seriously, I'll at least try to whip some sort of dug out presentation together like you did, but I definitely want to try to put together a full stadium complete with dugouts and interchangeable pitches (nice, shoddy, muddy for rain, snow for blizzared, etc.). I've got a few designs bouncing around in my head, I need to try to kind of work it out on paper and then go from there. LOT of hirst art on the horizon, I think. Shocked

snew - Aug 25, 2005 - 07:58 AM
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lawquoter wrote:

LOT of hirst art on the horizon, I think. Shocked

Hirst art stuff tend not to be very portable unless you have a packmule or Val around. Razz

Justin_Kase - Aug 25, 2005 - 08:00 PM
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Just try to keep it under 75 lbs and I'll be happy Very Happy

@ CoachGrodd - The game was a riot (no pun intended), glad you had as much fun as I did. You can tell people the Vase contains bits of the player you took out Wink

Yeah Rod, we need to get you, Chris & Snots there next year, trying to get The Toddfatha to come up from NC as well, in a few more years we may well be able to take out a block of rooms at a hotel as OMM suggested!

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 25, 2005 - 09:08 PM
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Justin_Kase wrote:

in a few more years we may well be able to take out a block of rooms at a hotel as OMM suggested!

Yep, and maybe we can get multiple Death Bowl games in as well as part of the PM activities.

Sorry if this is not quite as exciting as being tackled in the hallway or suplexed into a bed, but I had a blast with Rat Bowl 2005. I'm looking forward to next year already!!! Smile

-RobO

EDIT: Hey Tom, can we work a Skaven Theme into the shirt for next year?

lawquoter - Aug 26, 2005 - 08:51 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Justin_Kase wrote:

in a few more years we may well be able to take out a block of rooms at a hotel as OMM suggested!

I suggest either Gobbo Bowl or 'Fling Bowl 06. Think of the endless possibilities with throw team-mate. Mr. Green

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 27, 2005 - 06:27 AM
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Count me in for either of those...
Smile

lawquoter - Aug 27, 2005 - 09:55 AM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Count me in for either of those...
Smile

you all can play with gobbos, I'll bring my snotlings....dA fUnGuZ bReAdTh FlYeRz.

Guess what their one and only play in their play "book" is?

Mr. Green