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Europe - The BLOODBOWL 2005

Clan_Skaven - Sep 30, 2004 - 05:14 AM
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When will the 2005 BloodBowl take place?

I'd like to attend, if timed right I could book the time off work, & use my Bonus to fund the trip!

I know its early, but I'd like to be as prepared as possible, & soon my work will be asking us for vacation bookings for next Spring.

Thanks for any info.

Rod
AnthonyTBBF - Sep 30, 2004 - 07:18 AM
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If you can afford it you should go, I highly recommend it!

I'll be taking a break from the BB this year. I am going to try and go to a different tourney somewhere in Europe... hopefully.
Colin - Sep 30, 2004 - 08:50 AM
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That was my plan to Anthony, maybe we could get a few more Canucks to go to the same tourney and resurrect the Team Canada idea. Wink
Just have to figure out what tourney would be good (I'm thinking one in Holland maybe).
Grumbledook - Sep 30, 2004 - 01:05 PM
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yer its on

http://uk.games-workshop.com/news/uk/events/tournaments/default.htm

7/8 may

hopefully they will let us use bugmans on friday this year
Colin - Sep 30, 2004 - 03:37 PM
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Don't count on it! I think GW had more concern for the little muppets that were gaming on the WFB, 40K, and LOTR tables behind us at the BB (and there parents who were buying loads of stuff from the store), BB is a specialist game and therefore not worth the time for GW to worry about those of us who spent 40 quid to come to the biggest (and supposedly the best) BB tournement.
Sorry for the rant, but I doubt things will be much better for the BB 2005, so I doubt I'll be there, rather check out a different European tourney.
Clan_Skaven - Sep 30, 2004 - 05:28 PM
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      Torg wrote:
Don't count on it! I think GW had more concern for the little muppets that were gaming on the WFB, 40K, and LOTR tables behind us at the BB (and there parents who were buying loads of stuff from the store), BB is a specialist game and therefore not worth the time for GW to worry about those of us who spent 40 quid to come to the biggest (and supposedly the best) BB tournement.
Sorry for the rant, but I doubt things will be much better for the BB 2005, so I doubt I'll be there, rather check out a different European tourney.


Ok, fine point well made. But I have to attend at least one of the BloodBowls, 2005 or later!
Colin - Sep 30, 2004 - 05:48 PM
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Sure, I wouldn't discourage someone who never been before, go to the next BB tourney in Nottingham, everyone should do it once. If you're serious on doing it, should do it in 2005 so that you can play with rules that haven't been tainted by the vault yet. Wink
Clan_Skaven - Sep 30, 2004 - 06:03 PM
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Too bad the tourney wasn't in June.

May 7-8 is the Tourney, my bonus comes May 30th.

If I go I'll have to save for it pay cheaque by pay cheaque.
Colin - Oct 01, 2004 - 04:47 PM
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There are a number of Euro tournies in the summer you could go to (like Rendez-vousBB, I think that's in July). There's the DungeonBowl in Germany also, but I heard non-GW tourneys are more fun and have better prizes (though you probably don't have to worry about that, except maybe the wooded spoon, just kidding) Wink
Torpor - Oct 02, 2004 - 07:04 AM
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Check either here or on TBB for a schedule of tournaments most anywhere in the world. There are a selection of good tournaments in Europe during the summer months.

I cannot say much about GW tournaments as have only attended one (2004 Blood Bowl). The most disturbing thing about it was that when you walked up to an employee:
- most knew little if anything about Blood Bowl,
- its miniatures or what's available in the miniature line up (am sure that if you brought a Shadowforge team, you could call it '2nd edition' and most of them wouldn't know any better. Though it wouldn't be worth trying out of courtesy),
- and several repeatedly said that they really disliked Blood Bowl (fair enough, but when amongst 200 Blood Bowl players and you are supposed to be promoting the company is it really something that you should share with the world?),

To balance this out a bit, I doubt that you would meet as many of the online crowd in one place as you would there. The after game socializing is great. If you were looking for new ideas on how to convert a team, make a pitch, play a variant, there will be someone there who will enthusiastically help you. They just won't be a GW employee.

It depends upon why you want to go to the Blood Bowl. If you want to see the premises (the large statue of a Space Marine in the front and the 40K eagle on the building), the tournament space (looks like a castle), order miniatures and get them shipped up from the factory within the hour (or three hours as they get backed up with requests), visit Bugman's and chat with a large number of other players then it is worth doing. If you want six great games of Blood Bowl and a crack at a large number of glittering prizes, then try another tournament. The crowd at the Blood Bowl ranged from 'never played the game before this weekend' to 'old pros', basically whoever got a ticket. The prizes were few and pretty dire (a piece of paper for most) and with 150+ people, the chances are slim that you would see any of them - even the wooden spoon (which once again was a piece of paper). Other tournaments have gift packs of miniatures or dice just for showing up, T-Shirts for sale, and real trophies if you win. I would go so far as to say that GW themselves support other tournaments better than their own in this regard.

-Torpor
Indigo - Oct 03, 2004 - 03:31 AM
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      Torpor wrote:
I would go so far as to say that GW themselves support other tournaments better than their own in this regard.


This really puzzled me this year - last year they gave a £40 LOTR starter set for the wooden spoon alone! This year, it's a certificate for everything! I'm not sure that Mordredd even received a small BB trophy to commemorate it like Tarra did last year.... (although I may be wrong)
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 03:45 AM
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Ok if not the 2005 BloodBowl, then what? What other Euro BB Tournies would you suggest for 2005?
Grumbledook - Oct 03, 2004 - 04:26 AM
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I've been to loads of tournaments and won dick all

the bloodbowl is the biggest one, i would deffo given the choice just go to that one

all the tournaments i have done well at gw havn't sent prizes for, if your going to a tournament just to win prizes then you are a mug

though there is a good chance that indigo may be going to the bloodbowl so you might have the misfortune of meeting him
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 05:06 AM
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I don't care about prizes much, (look at my NAF record!)

I'm not sure what "a mug" means in Brittish slang, but I'm sure it's an insult!

Why would I not want to meet Indigo? Is he mean, or does he do odd rituals with dead things late at night? (I personally like meeting many people from all corners of the globe at BB tourneys. So I'm sure meeting Indigo won't be at all as bad as it was meeting you Grumbledook! Laughing )

So, ok fine thats that, I will go to the BB in Nottingham, (or whereever it is in that Weeeeeee Lil Country)

Then after that maybe another in 2006.

(& don't worry Indigo, I don't think you do those nasty rituals! Laughing )
Grumbledook - Oct 03, 2004 - 05:26 AM
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its worse than that he is ginger
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 09:57 AM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
its worse than that he is ginger


"ginger"

What the heck does that mean?

ginger= hot chick from Gilligan's Island (hope not)
ginger= he really likes ginger ale (umm, ok whats wrong with that?)
ginger= he smells like ginger root (well it could be worse)
ginger= he looks like the Ginger Bread Man (if thats the case, thats worth the trip just to see that! Razz Shocked Laughing )
Grumbledook - Oct 03, 2004 - 10:03 AM
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ginger = he has ginger hair
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 10:12 AM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
ginger = he has ginger hair


Ah who cares!

I just looked in the mirror & noticed my first couple of grey hairs!

Who are you to talk anyway.... You look like your barely pushing 14 (& even then that guess may be too old! Laughing )

How did you even get served beer that night at the bar? (Sharky's or whatever it was called!)
Grumbledook - Oct 03, 2004 - 10:39 AM
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cause that barmaid fancied me
Darkson - Oct 03, 2004 - 04:05 PM
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      Indigo wrote:
      Torpor wrote:
I would go so far as to say that GW themselves support other tournaments better than their own in this regard.


This really puzzled me this year - last year they gave a £40 LOTR starter set for the wooden spoon alone! This year, it's a certificate for everything! I'm not sure that Mordredd even received a small BB trophy to commemorate it like Tarra did last year.... (although I may be wrong)


Wondered about that myself.
But then, they couldn't even get the coin ready in time (I mean, they only had 10-12 months to prepare.)
dwarfcoach - Oct 03, 2004 - 04:21 PM
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Well I'm in two minds about it:

1) Yeah it was a bit hap-hazard, a bit like they were trying to organise it as if it was a Warhammer / 40k tourney. Bit disappointing that they did not plan for extra loss of stock from the Warhammer World store.

2) I had my best ever NAF rated tourney (4 wins, no draws or losses Twisted Evil ) and I met a bunch more TBB and NAF guys including a chap who joined my BB league... Very Happy


I will definately be there next year, I may well send Brian (the tourney organiser) a friendly e-mail closer to the time pointing out a couple of areas that could be better this year...
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 04:23 PM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
cause that barmaid fancied me


Ya right, she was too clued out to fancy anything, let alone a pre-puberty looking laddy!

No I mean ask Gken, she couldn't even pour a picture of beer, (she kept on pouring it from the side Rolling Eyes Question Rolling Eyes ) Poor Gken he got beer spilt over him.

She then took my fries away from me just as I was about to grab another. (Only offering them back after she already contaminted them by putting with all the other dirty dishes.) Ya she was good looking, dumb as a stump, but good looking all the same. Laughing

That explains why she fancied you Grumbledook, only someone as dumb as her could fancy a lil twirp like you! Very Happy Laughing
Grumbledook - Oct 03, 2004 - 05:40 PM
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is that why you fancy me?
dwarfcoach - Oct 03, 2004 - 05:49 PM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
is that why you fancy me?




Oh dear..... Rolling Eyes
Clan_Skaven - Oct 03, 2004 - 10:01 PM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
is that why you fancy me?



????????????????WHAT!!!!!!!!!?????????????????

I fancy who?

I'm Canadian, I don't drink tea with my pinky up like some Englishman!

Just by your comments, I think you want a piece of my heavanly body ( or as you would say it "you fancy me")

But I don't drink tea with my pinky up, so I suggest you look towards some fellow lads from your area. I don't play those English games! Laughing
Indigo - Oct 04, 2004 - 02:37 AM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
cause that barmaid fancied me

No mate, it's cause she felt a mothering instinct for you... didn't want to embarass you by refusing service in front of the big boys Wink

Anyway, you should be thankful for the attempts I made to hook you up with that girl in Rock City. Even if she did laugh and say "I'd eat him alive"... Laughing
Zombie - Oct 04, 2004 - 02:52 AM
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Actually, i think she was about 16 herself.
dwarfcoach - Oct 04, 2004 - 02:52 AM
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Perfect then... Question
Grumbledook - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:28 AM
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she had relatives from liverpool :/
Glorian_Underhill - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:40 AM
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What was the topic?
....
ah, yeah grumbles love life. Cool
Mordredd - Oct 07, 2004 - 08:26 AM
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      Indigo wrote:
      Torpor wrote:
I would go so far as to say that GW themselves support other tournaments better than their own in this regard.


This really puzzled me this year - last year they gave a £40 LOTR starter set for the wooden spoon alone! This year, it's a certificate for everything! I'm not sure that Mordredd even received a small BB trophy to commemorate it like Tarra did last year.... (although I may be wrong)


I did get a little trophy. It was a gold effect plastic cup with the bowl half filled with resin painted red mounted on a marble base, along with 3 block dice and an engraved plaque. Tasteful. Laughing

The lack of prizes is a little puzzling. The last few regional conflict tournaments had better prizes than any of the GT tournaments I've been to as well, so its not just independant tourneys that get better support. Go figure. Rolling Eyes

Having said that I personally would not rate a tourney good or bad based on the prizes in any way. I feel winning the games (or just having fun playing them) is prize enough, and it's the weekend of competitive BB I'm after not a new mini.
Zombie - Oct 07, 2004 - 01:34 PM
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There was a total of zero prize at the Spike!, if you don't count the paper certificates for different awards and the coins for everyone.
Clan_Skaven - Oct 07, 2004 - 01:42 PM
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Don't get me wrong prizes are cool, but I don't really care for em.
Its the game itself, & the other coaches, meeting friends (new & old).
Its the ever soooo important BEER fests afterwards,
And the unicin of Nuffle Bashing that goes along with the BEER fests

Those are the parts of the BB Tourneys I like!

but thats just me
AnthonyTBBF - Oct 07, 2004 - 02:21 PM
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GW doesn't give out product as prizes for events in Canada. Personally I think the trophies etc. people are doing are way better. I'd rather have that on my shelf than yet another BB team (not that I win any tournaments Wink)
Grumbledook - Oct 07, 2004 - 04:48 PM
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rest assured the bunker cup is somewhere on my floor with the rest of the crap i own ;]
dwarfcoach - Oct 07, 2004 - 05:50 PM
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      Grumbledook wrote:
rest assured the bunker cup is somewhere on my floor with the rest of the crap i own ;]


Hehe, pure class.... Twisted Evil
Dave - Oct 15, 2004 - 04:05 PM
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I'm not going to be there this year .. it's on freckin' mothers day ..

I broke that rule this year but it will not be allowed again I'm afraid .. Sad
Dan_Titan - Oct 18, 2004 - 04:46 AM
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Question: How is it wih the W40k and fantasy tournament.... do they give out many things???
Indigo - Oct 18, 2004 - 06:17 AM
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The ones I have been to only give out certificates too, mainly, although the odd one I've been to gives out Forge World stuff.
GalakStarscraper - Oct 18, 2004 - 08:40 AM
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      AnthonyTBBF wrote:
Personally I think the trophies etc. people are doing are way better. I'd rather have that on my shelf than yet another BB team (not that I win any tournaments Wink)
I give out trophies and prizes just to cover all the bases. But if I had to just give out one thing ... I'd go with the customized trophies or as I had to do this year pressed for time, just normal trophies.

Galak
Colin - Oct 18, 2004 - 11:56 PM
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Yes, I think trophies of some kind are the way to go. It gives you something to take home that is unique and something you can be proud of to display (I couldn't see myself framing a certificate for winning somethng at a tourney). The small tourney I went to in Calgary this summer gave out individual trophies for 2nd place, most TDs, most CAS, etc and even a small version of the actual cup for the first place player to take home.
Zombie - Oct 19, 2004 - 12:38 AM
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The Death Bowl gave away awsome trophies for all kinds of things, including champion, 2nd place, 3rd place, most touchdowns (6 inch long football on the trophy), most casualties (4 inch high skull on the trophy), best painted (a painter's color palette), best sportsman (a beer mug on the trophy), and wooden spoon (an actual giant wooden spoon about 3 feet long). Check out the pictures to come out soon!

Of course, there were all kinds of prizes as well!
Xtreme - Oct 19, 2004 - 12:58 AM
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I'd much rather have trophies to prizes, and display the one I have won with pride. Smile

I'd really like to get to the BloodBowl atleast once, but I think '06 would be as soon as I could get there. I'm not willing to sacrfice 4 tournaments on this side of the pond for one trip over there. Which is about what it would come out to with time off and travel expenses.
kalten - Oct 29, 2004 - 06:49 PM
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So let me get this stright.... The BloodBowl - The Biggest tourney for BB , or should be, gave out naff prizes?
Is this the same BloodBowl that I'm going to try to get to and win next year? To bring home the great BB Trophy with my name engraved on the base to prove I'm the best...You mean you don't get it?

Damn it - not worth going if thats the case!

BTW, Hi guys - Been a long time - How's you all?
Indigo - Oct 30, 2004 - 02:51 AM
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Not bad, how's married life?

BTW when you try to win the blood bowl next year, buy a lottery ticket. That way you have two chances at the 1 in 13 million prize Wink
kalten - Nov 06, 2004 - 09:44 PM
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      Indigo wrote:
Not bad, how's married life?


Not bad at all, the wife is sick 'cos she is also pregnant (Found out a few weeks before we got married!), but hey, thats life right?.....

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