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darthnoir - Mar 25, 2003 - 11:20 AM
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I just received the GamesDay insert from the latest issue of the US White Dwarf.

Am I misreading the schedule, or is Chicago's GamesDay only Saturday? I thought GamesDay is usually 2 days? Additionally, the schedule for the Chaos Cup seems like there will be very little time to spend at GamesDay itself, much less time to spend admiring the painting talents of others. Does anyone know if this schedule is set in stone? The time table they used at the Blood Bowl in Nottingham seemed to allow much more time for socializing and gawking at minis.

AnthonyTBBF - Mar 25, 2003 - 11:43 AM
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I think Games Day is usually just one day, at least it is here in Toronto.

Khankill - Mar 25, 2003 - 12:36 PM
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Chicago was only one day last year. The first day of the Chaos Cup is going to be held at the Chicago Battle Bunker (last time I checked).

darthnoir - Mar 25, 2003 - 12:48 PM
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I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the Saturday schedule in the GamesDay pamphlet does not really provide all that much time to attend GamesDay itself.

Set-up: 9:30-10:00
Game 4 10:00-12:15
Break 12:15-1:15
Game 5 1:15-3:30
Award 4:30-5:00

Looking at that schedule, there are only two 1 hour periods to check out the rest of GamesDay. And as pathetic as this may sound, I'm going to have to spend part of one of those hours eating lunch.

If they used the Blood Bowl's Sunday schedule they could potentially have the Awards ceremony completed by 3:00 PM leaving a nice 2 hour block at the end of the day to enjoy the rest of GamesDay.

Honestly though, I'm making a bigger fuss out of this than I should be. I am primarily attending the Chicago GamesDay to participate in the Chaos Cup. However, I've never attended a GamesDay before and I'd really like to take in the sights and the atmosphere.

GalakStarscraper - Mar 25, 2003 - 01:40 PM
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darthnoir wrote:

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that the Saturday schedule in the GamesDay pamphlet does not really provide all that much time to attend GamesDay itself.

Try this darthnoir, go to both the GenCon Bowl in July and the Chaos Cup in August.

GenCon lasts 3 1/2 days with the BB tournament only buring 1 1/2 days, and you'll see pretty much everything you'd see at the Games Day and a heck of a lot more at GenCon over the rest of the time.

http://www.blood-bowl.net/Gencon.html

Then you can go the Chaos Cup and not feel like you missed anything since you already saw it at GenCon ... Very Happy

Galak

darthnoir - Mar 25, 2003 - 02:41 PM
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I am very tempted to attend the Gencon tourney as well (after Nottingham, I've been severely bitten by the tournament bug now). I take it that the Gencon tournament is not sold out yet?

GalakStarscraper - Mar 25, 2003 - 02:56 PM
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darthnoir wrote:

I am very tempted to attend the Gencon tourney as well (after Nottingham, I've been severely bitten by the tournament bug now). I take it that the Gencon tournament is not sold out yet?

Tickets go on sale April 14th at http://www.gencon.com

The Chaos Cup has 48 slots with 47 being sold. The GenCon Bowl will have 80 slots and 1st prize is free admission to Games Day Chicago and the Chaos Cup ... which if you already had tickets ... I guess we'll get creative ... Laughing

Anyway, the 48th slot is supposed to be reserved for the GenCon Bowl tournament winner but with them only one week apart, it might have limited appeal unless that tournament sells out in a heartbeat.

They are already advertising the Chaos Cup for GW:
http://www.games-workshop.com/news/us/events/GamesDay2003/Special_Events/bloodbowl.htm

GenCon ads will be in White Dwarf also I'm told ... should be interesting to see how it all works ... or my fear ... doesn't work ... Laughing

Galak

darthnoir - Mar 25, 2003 - 04:02 PM
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Is there any word if the 48 slots will be expanded if given enough demand, like what happened with the Blood Bowl?

GalakStarscraper - Mar 25, 2003 - 07:12 PM
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darthnoir wrote:

Is there any word if the 48 slots will be expanded if given enough demand, like what happened with the Blood Bowl?

They said they might try ... but the problem is that 48 players is really all they have space for this year. GW said it would try to add more if it sells out but they cannot promise.

On a sidenote, I just found out that the GenCon tournament could in theory allow up to 140 coaches if it sells out the 80 slots. It will be fun seeing what the US market for this is compared to UK tournament.

Galak

darthnoir - May 03, 2003 - 07:26 AM
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I am up waaaaay to early (6:00 AM PST) trying to get GamesDay Chicago tickets and the all important Chaos Cup 2003 entry. However, all I'm getting right now are busy signals Sad

Anyone else have any luck getting through?

Old_Man_Monkey - May 03, 2003 - 08:23 AM
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I got in after about a 15-20 hold. I thought it was interesting that they were allowing multiple tickets purchases per call for the Chaos Cup, only because the size of the tournament is relatively small - perhaps this has changed.

Melifaxis - May 12, 2003 - 10:41 AM
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Anyone know the format that the Chaos Cup will be played in? I would imagine Swiss, but didn't see much detail online.

Lupus - May 14, 2003 - 04:40 PM
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And It will count as Naf tournament for ranking?

Thanks

Lupus

GalakStarscraper - May 14, 2003 - 07:23 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:

Anyone know the format that the Chaos Cup will be played in? I would imagine Swiss, but didn't see much detail online.

Definitely Swiss.

Galak

Melifaxis - May 15, 2003 - 06:16 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

Definitely Swiss.

Galak

Cool, thanks! Now I need to try and round up the troops!

Twisted Evil

Melifaxis - Jun 18, 2003 - 10:07 AM
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Lupus wrote:

And It will count as Naf tournament for ranking?

Thanks

Lupus

I'm assuming it will, but can someone please confirm? I'd love to finally be ranked.

jasonbarron - Jun 18, 2003 - 10:46 AM
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so could someone explain the differances between the formats of tournaments.

Melifaxis - Jun 19, 2003 - 01:26 PM
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Did you get my e-mail? Hope that helped.

Question:
Are you a complete idiot (from a chance of winning perspective) if you don't hire a star player in a tourney? It seems that way to me...

jasonbarron - Jun 19, 2003 - 02:06 PM
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yes thanks got the email and it was interesting reading.

But why is it called swiss?

Tutenkharnage - Jun 19, 2003 - 05:56 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:

Question: Are you a complete idiot (from a chance of winning perspective) if you don't hire a star player in a tourney? It seems that way to me...

I don't think so. You can play Dwarves and Undead without the need for a Star Player, for example. (Slayers can handle just about anything; a Mummy is practically a Star Player in its own right.)

I think the right coach can win a tournament with a specialty team like Amazons or Norse without Star Players. But Humans...you probably need a Star Player. Skaven...you probably can't win anyway.

-Chet

Melifaxis - Jun 20, 2003 - 12:29 PM
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Thanks Chet.

What about Lizardmen (only because I'm painting them now) or Chaos Dwarves (my favorite)?

Tutenkharnage - Jun 20, 2003 - 02:40 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:

Thanks Chet.

What about Lizardmen (only because I'm painting them now) or Chaos Dwarves (my favorite)?

No problem. Regarding Lizardmen, I don't think their official Star Players are worth it. And I think all that ST and Dodge and Stunty can give an opponent plenty of trouble, so I think Lizardmen can compete in a tourney.

Regarding Chaos Dwarves, I'd go with Hthark. Well, I wouldn't, you understand, but, ah...you have a better chance with him than without him, definitely.

-Chet

Melifaxis - Jun 22, 2003 - 10:23 AM
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Great, so I have two pretty good options now. Thanks again!

Melifaxis - Jul 11, 2003 - 08:02 AM
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Well, this blows. I won't be going to Chicago. House needs a new roof. I will hit a tourney next year though. I need to make my debut and get a NAF ranking.

AnthonyTBBF - Jul 11, 2003 - 09:21 AM
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I just got a sneak peek of the custom board they are making for the final of the Chaos Cup, it's pretty sweet!!!

Melifaxis - Jul 11, 2003 - 01:48 PM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:

I just got a sneak peek of the custom board they are making for the final of the Chaos Cup, it's pretty sweet!!!

sigh

Lupus - Jul 27, 2003 - 10:23 AM
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Somebody knows if this tournament counts to NAF ranking?

Lupus

Deathwing - Jul 27, 2003 - 12:44 PM
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Yes, it's NAF sanctioned. It really should be up in the tourney section.

Lupus - Jul 27, 2003 - 01:11 PM
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Thanks Deathwing.

May be see you there? or we see in Amsterdam tournament? Razz

Lupus

Deathwing - Jul 27, 2003 - 03:39 PM
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Lupus wrote:

Thanks Deathwing.

May be see you there? or we see in Amsterdam tournament? Razz

Lupus

Unfortunately not. Sad

Already done 3 abroad this year..that's about my limit.
Probably just Cam Carnage and Spiky for me now this year.

Darkson - Jul 27, 2003 - 04:09 PM
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DW, are you definetly doing CamCarn?

(oops, sorry, going off-topic)

Deathwing - Jul 27, 2003 - 05:43 PM
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Almost certainly.

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 06, 2003 - 08:49 AM
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OK, some Chaos Cup pics from Chicgo (finally!):

Ken and Tiny, before they met in battle later that day . . .

Tim watches as the room fills up

Two Undead teams and Orcs made the cut for Best Painted - displayed on the awesome pitch created just for the Chaos Cup.

Almost all in the group shot . . .

Here is Brian's Blue Orc Giants - Best Appearance winners - Chaos Cup 2003

Lloyd Davis - Best Sportsman - Chaos Cup 2003

Brian Carlson - Best Appearance - Chaos Cup 2003

Pedro Garcia - Runnerup - Chaos Cup 2003

Xavier Tomas - Winner - Chaos Cup 2003

Jervis, Tim, and Xavier lift the Chaos Cup in triumph

The Spanish team celebrates with Jervis

What, how, er.... When did THAT picture get in there Wink

Actually, Linda who served us beers and cigars afterwards, joins the select group of barmaids and waitresses who have conquered weary and thirsty Blood Bowlers after tournaments the world over.

Apologies for the long post - the entire sets of pics can been seen at:

www.oldmanmonkey.com

which isn't really ready to go up yet. But I wanted to get the pics out ASAP and with the computer problems I had Monday and Tuesday, this was the best solution.

Cheers to all who were there and congrats once again to Xavier!

-OMM

TiMuN - Aug 06, 2003 - 10:17 AM
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Nice pics, OldManMonkey .. i was searching around for them ..
Just one question there ... did Xavi used his personalized shout when scoring a TD, or does he reserves it for local tourneys?

Something like 'Yiiiiiiiijhaaaaaaa!'

Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 06, 2003 - 10:54 AM
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By all means, TiMuN, the "YIIAAAHHHHH" yell was in full voice this past weekend, but it didn't seem to be Xavi's exclusive domain. Seemed that the entire Spanish force was giving that shout upon success small or large.

There were moments it seemed like a UEFA cup final . . . Very Happy

-OMM

Indigo - Aug 07, 2003 - 03:03 AM
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lol it seems like Spain is the country to beat at every tourney going ATM... luckily there's only one coming to Cambridge Wink

great pics

TiMuN - Aug 08, 2003 - 05:40 AM
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Yes, i heard DanTitan is attending the CamCarnage ... and he is also at Amsterdam for this weekend's Madhobbit Massacre.

Hope his Lizards do good, he is a nice fellow that could not play too much.

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 08, 2003 - 05:51 AM
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I played Dan at the Blood Bowl, he was great fun to play against! Say hi to him for me when you see him next TiMuN.

TiMuN - Aug 08, 2003 - 07:05 AM
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Yep, Anthony, i have a picture here that proves that.

I wish the next one asking for a photo with you it's me! Wink

Unfortunately, i still wont be able to attend any international tourney at the moment.

So a good picture of your Chaos Team would do for the moment!!
We want to see them!!!! Smile

Indigo - Aug 08, 2003 - 08:52 AM
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I see him almost every week! He's a great bloke and a good coach too - forced me to raise my game since he started coming to the store!

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 08, 2003 - 08:59 AM
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I think there are some pictures of my team around here somewhere.

Indigo - Aug 08, 2003 - 09:05 AM
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I've got loads if anyone wants me to mail them...

Melifaxis - Aug 08, 2003 - 09:08 AM
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Can you mail me Squiggoth's Painting Guide as well? Very Happy

Indigo - Aug 08, 2003 - 09:09 AM
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Yes. It's all done and ready to go up, we're just sorting out how we're going to organise the user submission procedure and how they are viewed/downloaded etc.

TiMuN - Aug 08, 2003 - 03:32 PM
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Count me in for a copy of both: qborreda@infonegocio.com
Laughing

GalakStarscraper - Aug 12, 2003 - 03:26 PM
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Chaos Cup results:

http://www.blood-bowl.net/GenCon/ChaosCup2003Results.htm

This is what was provided... no win-tie-loss records ...and no explanations about how ties (like for Best Sportsman) were decided.

However at least now you can see how you finished.

Galak