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North America - Chaos Cup 2014 - Chicago - Sept 13-14th, 2014
Jonny_P - Jan 02, 2014 - 01:17 PM
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Mark your calendars now... Chaos Cup will take place Sept 13-14th, 2014. Same location. Tzeentch themed. More details to follow later this year.
Gaixo - Jan 02, 2014 - 05:00 PM
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Were you waiting to get the 666th thread in this section? 
Jonny_P - Jan 02, 2014 - 10:55 PM
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Whoa, awesome!
wapcaplets - Jan 04, 2014 - 06:38 PM
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My favourite Chaos God! Hoping to make the return to Illinois for this one.
DukeJan - Jan 05, 2014 - 03:23 AM
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Great, perfect timing for planning my long distance business trips this year 
Jonny_P - Jan 05, 2014 - 07:20 PM
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Wap and DukeJan, would love to see you guys again!
As a quick follow up...
...with the NAF Prez election over, we now have new people running large events taking them to the next level. I love that, and it is really only that which keeps the BB Community alive!
On a related note, I would like to find the right person in the USA to help me transfer the lead on Chaos Cup to after this year. I would work with them this year training and mentoring, then in 2015 they will be the man (or woman!) This person would be the new main contact leading up to the event, registration, rosters, as well as the top dog running the event the day of. The great thing about running Chaos Cup however is a team of fanatics ready to help you out! So anyone wishing to be my padawan will still have Jedi Masters Valdric & Xtreme helping out... as well as me! I still want to run the website as there is just too much valuable data with pics and stats, etc to let it go without a fight. Plus I'm always willing to consult with this person to help them out if they have questions.
Event for this year is already booked at Holiday Inn Palatine again. I'd prefer to see Chaos Cup remain in Chicago, but apart from that I don't have many other requests. Any interested parties can PM me and we can go from there!
daloonieshaman - Jan 06, 2014 - 10:31 PM
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What no website update for 2014?
grant85 - Jan 07, 2014 - 09:58 AM
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Jonny_P wrote:
I would like to find the right person in the USA to help me transfer the lead on Chaos Cup to after this year...
end of an era! big shoes to fill but great to hear you'll support the new C.C. head.
Jonny_P - Jan 07, 2014 - 11:17 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:
What no website update for 2014?
Are you volunteering to take over to give me time to work on the website? 
grant85 wrote:
end of an era! big shoes to fill but great to hear you'll support the new C.C. head.
Thanks... yeah I want to see it grow even further than it did when I was running, so some new energy is needed. 
grant85 - Apr 03, 2014 - 03:49 PM
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooo.......FFS! Brother-in-law wedding!!!!!!!!! So sad to miss this!
Jonny_P - Apr 07, 2014 - 10:42 AM
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You tell him I've got a free swag bag for him if he gets married at Chaos Cup instead. Hopefully we'll see you back in 2015!
Jonny_P - Apr 07, 2014 - 10:46 AM
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Chaos Cup news!
Rules pack should be done by end of week. Very similar to last year.
New Chaotic Brush painting contest rules and details will be up by end of week as well.
And most exciting....Katie (rowdykatie) has stepped up and will be working with me on running the Chaos Cup, which will also allow me to play in the tournament and participate in a podcast challenge that day as well!
She's going to do a great job as she has already has experience co-running other larger tournaments, notably Gencon, Stupor Bowl, and Put a Ring On It.
daloonieshaman - Apr 21, 2014 - 10:36 PM
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When will the registration button be updated
grant85 - Apr 30, 2014 - 07:25 PM
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looks like the word is out, just saying:
http://imgur.com/KnQBqTw
Jonny_P - May 05, 2014 - 03:51 PM
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Rules pack for Chaos Cup 2014 is here: http://zlurpcast.com/ChaosCup14/ChaosCup14Rules.pdf
Pre-registration opens on July 1st at http://ChaosCup.com
Feel free to book your hotel as soon as you are ready: http://zlurpcast.com/CC/category/info/lodging/
DarkOrk20 - May 18, 2014 - 03:11 PM
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Is this going to get NAF approved anytime soon? Just saying.
Gaixo - May 18, 2014 - 05:29 PM
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Approved!
Jonny_P - May 18, 2014 - 10:18 PM
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Thanks!
tlawson - May 21, 2014 - 01:13 PM
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Going to make this my first CC. I've been looking forward to this all year!
Jonny_P - May 21, 2014 - 01:28 PM
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tlawson wrote:
Going to make this my first CC. I've been looking forward to this all year!
Sweet!
daloonieshaman - May 21, 2014 - 09:22 PM
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Got my hotel air & car just waiting to register......
Jonny_P - May 21, 2014 - 09:25 PM
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Thats awesome Dennis. Are you staying longer, or just Fri-Sun?
Jonny_P - Jun 30, 2014 - 07:28 PM
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Pre-registration is open: http://zlurpcast.com/CC/category/registration/pre-reg/
Book your hotel ASAP: http://zlurpcast.com/CC/category/info/lodging/
Jonny_P - Jul 01, 2014 - 12:44 PM
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Please only fill out the pre-registration form if you are attending Chaos Cup. You are not allowed to "buy" stuff in lieu of coming.
There will be no items sold to non-attendees until after the tournament....and that is only if there is something left. No promises can be made.
daloonieshaman - Jul 15, 2014 - 12:59 AM
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registered
Underworld Stunty
delevus - Jul 18, 2014 - 07:34 AM
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From Jonny,
Deadline to pre-register including pitch purchase, Friday night bowling, or t-shirt purchase NOW EXTENDED TO 7/31. I didn't think it was fair to cut if off before everyone got a look at what the pitch will look like. Sorry for the delays on this one.
Normal pre-registration cut off (without additional purchases) is still 8/31.
Jonny_P - Jul 24, 2014 - 12:29 PM
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If you want to order the 2014 Chaos Cup pitch from FF-Fields, make sure to register by 7/31 at http://ChaosCup.com
Jonny_P - Jul 27, 2014 - 11:43 PM
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Here are the rules for the annual Chaotic Brush painting competition at Chaos Cup 2014: http://zlurpeebowl.com/CBrush14.pdf
Jonny_P - Aug 19, 2014 - 08:44 AM
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Currently 67 coaches paid and signed up with almost another 2 weeks left of pre-registration and another 2 weeks til the event where we always have people show up at the door.
The real question is....can Chaos Cup 2014 hit 100 coaches?
Register now at ChaosCup.com (Still have a chance to sign up for Friday 7pm bowling too!)
Kilowoggy - Aug 20, 2014 - 06:25 PM
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If you're on the fence if you can go or not... GO!!!!!
If there's a reason you can't, let me know. I'll call your boss! I'll convince your wife! I'll hide the body!*
*Previous statements are not going to happen... but I would help if I could
Jonny_P - Sep 02, 2014 - 11:44 PM
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Pre-registration is now closed....buuuuuuut....we just broke a North American Blood Bowl Attendance record.... 82 COACHES! Woohoo! There may be more at the door too. Can't wait for Chaos Cup 2014!
daloonieshaman - Sep 03, 2014 - 10:17 AM
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We can now have several players with a 6-0 record
Gaixo - Sep 03, 2014 - 10:41 AM
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I don't think there were any of those last year.
daloonieshaman - Sep 03, 2014 - 05:27 PM
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and I hope there are not
but once you get past 64 there is the very real chance of several players with perfect records \
With 82 players there will be 2 players @ 5-0 and there should be between 4-7 players who are 5-0
If I understand the rules correctly the tie breakers would be arbitrary at best
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TOP TABLE/TIEBREAKERS
The #1 and #2 ranked coaches after Round 5 will be playing for the title of Chaos Cup Champion and 2nd place. The winner of this Top Table game is the Chaos Cup Champion. In case of a tie score in this Top Table game, the below bullet points will be used to determine the winner.
Pairings will be determined by wins, then tiebreakers based on the following, in this order:
Head to Head record
Strength of Schedule
Tournament Organizer discretion
Head to Head does not apply as they would not have played
Strength of Schedule would take vast amounts of time to figure out unless they had some sort of software to compute all the games of all the players that the undefeated players played against. Does the computing take in effect each coaches NAF ranking with said teams?
Level of Tier play? Just because some one beat a higher or lower level of tier team how did they beat them.
Points and Cas differential based on tournaments means. (for example the mean differential of Elves score v/s Dwarves is 3 with a -2 cas ratio how did that coach fair against the mean) (you would then compare the mean differential for like parings)
exactly how is SoS calculated for this event. What are all the factors that go into judging SoS? Is SoS measured each game?
then it boils do to who Jonny picks basically.
Jonny_P - Sep 04, 2014 - 08:21 AM
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Strength of Schedule is calculated for us automatically in the program, Score. It takes no time on the organizers part.
It's not about NAF records....its about how specific teams are doing at that tournament only.
Example: If there are 3 teams that are 5-0-0 going into Round 6....they will be ranked based on combined total points of their opponents. The 2 teams that played the "best" opponents will be in the final top table.
There is no perfect system. One could argue that you have no control over how well your opponents do in their other games. That's true. Another method is bonus points. I don't like bonus points however because there are certain teams that excel at bonus points. Why is a 1-0 win worth any less than a 5-0 Wood Elf victory? If given the choice on larger tournaments, Opponents strength of schedule is my favorite tie breaker.
After Strength of Schedule I have other tiebreakers setup in the system.
It's not "who I pick" and never has been.
Plus for the record, I'm playing this year so I would bow out of any type of decisions like that anyway. The switchover to Katie will be occurring on Saturday and she will be entering scores. If a decision has to be made for ANY reason, she will do it to remain fair and unbiased.
But again, the tiebreakers will be in the system and they are not secret. We can discuss at the event if you still have questions.
Grither - Sep 04, 2014 - 11:05 AM
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Good response, it does make a good deal of sense but it also shows there could be some "unfairness" felt for a coach that is left out of the finals yet has a 5-0 record. Has a Final Four format been considered, similar to Zlurp?
Jonny_P - Sep 04, 2014 - 01:22 PM
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Hey Bryan!
Possibly. I've left my format during my tenure as Chaos Cup organizer the same for uniformity over the last 4 years, but if Katie and crew want to alter it for 2015 and beyond, that would be up to them.
daloonieshaman - Sep 04, 2014 - 06:13 PM
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Thanks
Hey it is cool that Score figured out how to calculate SoS and wrote it in
We here tried to figure out how SoS is calculated and what factors should quantify
daloonieshaman - Sep 04, 2014 - 06:15 PM
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ps
not that I would ever be 5-0 (let alone 6-0) at an event, it was brought up locally about how to solve the dilemma.
daloonieshaman - Sep 07, 2014 - 10:46 PM
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Finished painting my team now all I have to do is pack and I am ready to go
WOOT!!!
Jonny_P - Sep 15, 2014 - 08:03 AM
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Congrats to Bryan Tew/Grither and his Chaos Dwarfs for beating Geggster in the Final and winning Chaos Cup 2014!
Results to follow.
94 coaches played which is a new North American attendance record!
PICS HERE: https://www.facebook.com/thechaoscup/photos_stream
rowdykatie - Sep 15, 2014 - 09:00 PM
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Full results now posted on www.chaoscup.com!
tlawson - Sep 16, 2014 - 06:18 AM
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I'd like to thank rowdykatie, Jonny P and the rest of the Chaos Cup commity for hosting and running an amazing tournament.
Stimme - Sep 17, 2014 - 04:07 PM
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Thanks to all the people involved for another fantastic Chaos Cup.
Here are some images. Get them while they are still hot.
PS: As with all previous albums, the image size is automatically reduced to save space and bandwidth; if you would like the full size version of any photo, drop me a line.
Jonny_P - Sep 18, 2014 - 08:04 AM
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Thanks Alex.... great pics!
OneChiquita - Sep 20, 2014 - 04:44 PM
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^What they said! My first but hopefully not my last; next year is Italy so probably going to skip CC but rock on Garth!