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Grumbledook - Feb 13, 2003 - 05:16 AM
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Right spose i best get to the post box and post this confirmation form, bit late now really :/
Max_Horseman - Feb 13, 2003 - 07:09 AM
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You gotta be there Mark, otherwise how else are you gonna get above me in the rankings.... 
Max 
Grumbledook - Feb 13, 2003 - 07:31 AM
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by you losing all your matches
Deathwing - Feb 13, 2003 - 07:37 AM
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..I'm looking for revenge....
Lucy - Feb 13, 2003 - 07:54 AM
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I'm looking for more revenge.....
And I don't want to play orcs anymore......
But, I guess that'll be impossible 
Lucy
renegating Undead coach.
Redfang - Feb 13, 2003 - 08:09 AM
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yup, we should have used that special small room just for orc players...
That way everbody else could have had a much more enjoyable tournament (I think) and we might also have cured some of these orc players from playing orc... Maybe
R
McSnaga - Feb 13, 2003 - 08:54 AM
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Hey! I'll be playing Orcs for the first time (excluding practice matches) in ages. I usually play Skaven or Wood Elves.
I just felt Orcy. 
Deathwing - Feb 13, 2003 - 09:18 AM
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Lucy wrote:
I'm looking for more revenge.....
And I don't want to play orcs anymore......
But, I guess that'll be impossible
Lucy
renegating Undead coach.
You'll need to spell regenerate better than that mate, now that Cancon results are in you're down to 117 overall. 
Lucy - Feb 14, 2003 - 02:09 AM
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I actually meant renegade....
Changing it into a verb was probably a bad idea 
Lucy
Longshot - Feb 14, 2003 - 11:40 PM
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may be i will play Orc next time 
just to be in the small room
Squiggoth - Feb 17, 2003 - 02:26 AM
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Longshot wrote:
may be i will play Orc next time
just to be in the small room
Can you keep a promise? 
coachblacknife - Feb 17, 2003 - 04:19 PM
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Just wondered if anyone had a problem with coaches fielding Human teams with Griff and Zug? Obviously the Varag = free reroll = star blitzer for buttons, with no linemen necessary is bad enough, but ... well, just wondering.
Not that i'm doing that, oh no. Because of the egality of Star Players i'm going to refrain from the Dark Elves and field the Chaos Dwarfs. My practice games were *so* poor with the DElves. Must have been the new paint scheme!
See you with the new dice
Geno - Feb 18, 2003 - 01:08 AM
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A guy I know has taken Griff, Zug and Luthor on his Human team.
Let the battle of the beards commence!
Trambi - Feb 18, 2003 - 03:39 AM
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Just don't play starplayers ! That could be a good reason for taking elves.
Deathwing - Feb 18, 2003 - 05:02 AM
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Geno wrote:
A guy I know has taken Griff, Zug and Luthor on his Human team.
Let the battle of the beards commence!
+8 Line..2RR and 2FF? I'd play against that happily. So I suspect would those playing Luthor/Undead.
Where'd I put those stomping boots? Expect a lot of DPs, and expect a lot of Griff hunting..that's gonna be one Dead Parrot.
Redfang - Feb 18, 2003 - 05:15 AM
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Maybe GW should write him off as officially deceased after the tournament then...
Indigo - Feb 18, 2003 - 05:23 AM
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I share the common sentiment though that this is a tournament for the Blood Bowl, and I'm going to aim to win. If Star Players help me do that, then I will use them, regardless of whether others think they are beardy etc.
I personally don't like them, but I recognise their strengths. I'd prefer the tourny to be without them, but as it stands they are simply a tool to help me win
McSnaga - Feb 18, 2003 - 07:09 AM
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I concur with Redfang (sort of), and think that if a Star Player dies in the final of the BB, then he should be deemed dead. After all if the match is a part of history and a famous BB player dies in it, what do you do, re-write history ?
I know Star Players die all the time, but I would think the final of the BB would be a bit different.
Trambi - Feb 18, 2003 - 01:59 PM
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Indigo : I don't go to win but to have fun. So I don't take the most efficient team that I can find, but the team, I like.
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 18, 2003 - 02:40 PM
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Same here, besides, if I wanted to have a shot at winning I wouldn't be playing Chaos
coachblacknife - Feb 19, 2003 - 04:51 AM
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Deathwing wrote:
... So I suspect would those playing Luthor/Undead.
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However, according to the BBowl rulepack, neither Luthors would appear leaving a Griff+Zug human team vs an Undead team... I liked the idea about stars dying in the final being, well, final!
Indigo - Feb 19, 2003 - 10:04 AM
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Trambi wrote:
Indigo : I don't go to win but to have fun. So I don't take the most efficient team that I can find, but the team, I like.
I know what you mean - I think my post came over as "power player" too much. I'm in this for the fun of the game, and won't be distraught if I don't win, but I want to give myself the best shot possible!!
Don't worry, I'm there for a good time too!!
Shame I am driving on Sat night, or I'd be joining you all for beers in Bugmans. As it stands, I'll be quietly sipping my coke at the back 
Indigo - Feb 19, 2003 - 10:08 AM
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The idea of killing off a star player if he dies is interesting, but what about this alternative - creating a NEW one for the winning race?
Fair enough, some imagination will need to be used as a player can only get one skill max, but if, for example, my thrower throws an inch perfect long bomb while in 4 tackle zones having just knocked out 2 blitzers then it could be used to beef up his profile somewhat!
not that I expect my team to be in the final of course
Geno - Feb 20, 2003 - 01:57 AM
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DW: Close, his lineup has and Ogre, Linemen and a thrower, 1RR and 1 FF I think, only 10 men. He's done pretty good in his test games though.
McSnaga - Feb 20, 2003 - 03:14 AM
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Indigo wrote:
The idea of killing off a star player if he dies is interesting, but what about this alternative - creating a NEW one for the winning race?
I love that idea - If one dies, replace with a new one. Unlikely admittedly, but possible nonetheless.
Deathwing - Feb 20, 2003 - 03:33 AM
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Geno wrote:
DW: Close, his lineup has and Ogre, Linemen and a thrower, 1RR and 1 FF I think, only 10 men. He's done pretty good in his test games though.
He needs to re-think then..you can't start with less than 11 players.
Good point coachblackknife, the absence of Luthor on both sides slipped right by me, although I'm quite well aware of the rule and indeed have 'all Orc Varagless' contingency plans in place.
Deathwing - Feb 20, 2003 - 03:43 AM
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Geno, I'm waiting to see how close your line up is to Ant's.
Chaos...Nurgle themed...Borak...use of Leader on Big Guys...hmmmm.
I could take a pretty good stab at it...
I was gonna take Chaos for a while, then AndyH scuppered my devious Borak/Ripper/Thrud line-up.
Geno - Feb 20, 2003 - 06:06 AM
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DW: Didn't realise you couldn't have less than 11 in a starting team, is it in the rulebook?
My lineup might differ slightly to Ant's, no big guy for me. I'm currently testing:
1x Lord Borak
2x Chaos Warriors
8x Beastmen
2x Re-Rolls (3 with Borak)
2 Fan Factor
Skills in the order of:
1) Sure Hands (Beastman)
2) Guard (Warrior)
3) Strip Ball (Beastman)
4) Guard (Warrior)
5) Undecided
What's Ant got?
I could always take my converted Beast of Nurgle as an Ogre, but I don't know how to fit him in the team. Would be cool though
Also, if you're in Bugmans on the Friday I'll give you a game if you like?
McSnaga - Feb 20, 2003 - 06:18 AM
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P17 of the LRB (2nd Column)
"In addition your team must have at least 11 players and may not have more than 16"
nuff said
Deathwing - Feb 20, 2003 - 06:48 AM
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Geno wrote:
What's Ant got?
I could always take my converted Beast of Nurgle as an Ogre, but I don't know how to fit him in the team. Would be cool though
Also, if you're in Bugmans on the Friday I'll give you a game if you like?
I really don't know what Ant's taking..I expect it's under wraps and a case of wait and see..pretty much like my Orcs! (well somebody's gotta play secret squirrel, right?)
Drop a CW or something..squeeze in that Beast as an Ogre...don't forget you can use Leader on him...you know you want to!
As for Bugman's, we should be arriving early/mid afternoon. Doubt I'll have time to play though, lots of people to meet, dice etc to hand out, maybe do some NAF sign-ups, beer to drink etc.
And 6 games in 2 days is enough for me anyway... 
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 20, 2003 - 07:49 AM
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I think I am taking:
3 Warriors
1 Troll (Beast of Nurgle)
6 Beastmen
Lord Borak
1FF
2RR (including 1 from Borak)
I might drop the Troll for another CW but I doubt it. I must have one for Coolness Factor
Thadrin - Feb 20, 2003 - 08:28 AM
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Decided on my Dwarf roster AGES ago. Exactly the same one that did well at T5 (2 Blitzers, 2 runners, 1 Slayer, 6 longbeards, Apoth, 2 rerolls, 4 fan factor.)
Played one test game, and I won. Intending to play a bit on FUMBBL tommorrow as I have the whole day off work, which might give me some "developed version" help.
I know plenty of Guard is on the menu development wise (prob. a blitzer and two LBs), with Block on one runner and pass or HMP (for a laugh) on the other.
Bring it on!
Grumbledook - Feb 20, 2003 - 09:03 AM
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I'll give you a game with my blood bowl roster if you want
Cidervampire - Feb 20, 2003 - 09:30 AM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:
Same here, besides, if I wanted to have a shot at winning I wouldn't be playing Chaos
Nothing wrong with Chaos, if I remeber right from last year
Deathwing - Feb 20, 2003 - 09:46 AM
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Cidervampire wrote:
AnthonyTBBF wrote:
Same here, besides, if I wanted to have a shot at winning I wouldn't be playing Chaos
Nothing wrong with Chaos, if I remeber right from last year
Oooh..catty!
Didn't they finish 22nd?
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 20, 2003 - 10:44 AM
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I want a rematch! As I recall, that game was only one on a dodge with no RRs into the endzone in the last turn of the game!
And don't think I didn't consider taking Morg either
MattRobson - Feb 20, 2003 - 11:30 AM
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Hi all
Just wondering if you could give me you 2gp's worth on my current line up for the BB2003.
Orcs 
1 Blitzer
1 Ogre ( poss Big Orc CONVERSION )
4 Black Orcs
1 Thrower
5 Line Men
2 RR
4 FF
Done Ok in Practice thinkin of droppin a Line Orc for a Fanatic SP?
What do you think ... Oh and the team name is DA REF SQUAD (black and white stripe colour Scheme)
Geno - Feb 20, 2003 - 11:50 AM
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Ant: I could drop a Beastman and Re-Roll for 130K then buy an Ogre, not sure though.... but it would be so cool to use my beast of nurgle model, he's got a helmet, shoulderpad with straps, the works
That'd be:
1x Lord Borak
2x Chaos Warriors
1x Ogre
7x Beastmen
2x Re-Rolls (inc Borak)
3x Fan Factor
Could be cool.
See what you've done now Ant? My brains working overtime on lineup's.... Argh!
Geno - Feb 20, 2003 - 11:54 AM
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Matt:
A good Orc team from our practice games has been:
4x Blitzers
1x Varag
1x Troll
3x Goblins
1x Thrower
2x Black Orcs
2x Re-Rolls (inc Varag)
1x FF
He's done really well with that team so far.
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 20, 2003 - 12:02 PM
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The only reason I went with the "Troll" is cost. Really Stupid isn't that big of a deal when he's just standing around hitting things
Grumbledook - Feb 20, 2003 - 12:49 PM
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Matt i would swap 2 of the black orcs for blizters
Geno - Feb 21, 2003 - 12:41 AM
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The only reason I went with the "Troll" is cost. Really Stupid isn't that big of a deal when he's just standing around hitting things
I see what you mean. I did think about this a bit last night and all you really need the ST5 guy to do is hit things, so why not take the dumb cheaper one?
Also, do you have any piccies of your Destroyers yet? Love to see 'em.
Cidervampire - Feb 21, 2003 - 02:40 AM
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Well I'm famed for my bullshit luck! Looking forward to seeing everybody again. Its true my luck and my shoddy painting knocked Anthony off one of the top spots and look forward to a possible re-match unless my nerves crumble under the stress as they nearly did my the end of spiky. Promise the figures are a lot better this year
Geoff (20 somethingth last year and proud!)
Ancalagon - Feb 21, 2003 - 03:00 AM
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I'll finally bring my lizard team:
1 krox
6 saurus (use silibili mini as captain)
4 skinks
2 RR
3 FF
about skills chosen, well I think I'll give block to the krox and guard to saurus, just to be sure morgs cannot be safe. Maybe a pair of break tackle saurus for last matches too...
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 21, 2003 - 11:28 AM
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Nope, no pictures yet. I still have a few to finish before next week
Thadrin - Feb 21, 2003 - 01:34 PM
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Update on my team's FUMBBL testing: 2 wins (Orcs 3-0 with no skills and Wood Elves 3-1 with one skill) one loss (Norse 0-3 with two skills each).
Luck has played a huge roll in all three games though.
Longshot - Feb 22, 2003 - 07:50 AM
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i will come with wood elves.
The Flat staff from Dam should know what i am taking.
BTW,Del, do you have enough minis? i told my roster to Woody.
Deathwing - Feb 22, 2003 - 08:04 AM
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Longshot wrote:
i will come with wood elves.
The Flat staff from Dam should know what i am taking.
BTW,Del, do you have enough minis? i told my roster to Woody.
You'd better mail me that pronto mate! I'm still painting figs but Del thinks he's all set. I'll LMAO if he's suddenly got a fig to paint.
Longshot - Feb 22, 2003 - 11:28 AM
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i ve already done it but i send you a mail again now!
MattRobson - Feb 22, 2003 - 01:11 PM
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lo again tanx for the replys re: my line-up
v 1.5 of my line up now looks like this:-
2 Blitzers - fast and punchy!!
1 Ogre - Smash, Smash Chuck a Gobbo!
4 Black Orcs - Yeah there slow but 4 S4 and the Ogre OUCH!!
1 Thrower - Well Someone has to be able to pick up that thing the other team keep kicking at us !!!!
2 Line Orcs
2 Goblins - to dodge and hopefully catch the ball before they get killed
2 RR - any less is just crazy
3 FF
Do you think you realy need 12 players for a Tourney??? I hate goin 1 man down and beein caught open but Orc are Dead ARd I could Prob drop a Gob and A Line Orc for another BLITZER, what do you think??
Grumbledook - Feb 22, 2003 - 02:14 PM
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I would swap at least one black orc for a blitzer, the extra movement and the block skill will come in more handy than st4 no block. Spec as you have an ogre and wouldbe left with 3 black orcs as well. Might even be tempted to take 4 blizters and 2 black orcs, or fast teams will run rungs around you.
Also as this is in the blood bowl thread I assume its for the blood bowl, so have you thought about taking any star players?
longfang - Feb 22, 2003 - 03:46 PM
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Longshot wrote:
i will come with wood elves.
BTW,Del, do you have enough minis? .
Don't you worry Yohan, You'll have a fully painted Wood Elf team, we have the full compliment of the required players. DW just found another line elf hiding in the grandstand. Sorted!
These do you?
Thadrin - Feb 23, 2003 - 12:10 AM
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Are little red crosses valid at GW tournaments then?
I agree with Dook on the Orc team: 4 Blitzers two black orcs is a much better lineup.
Still, it would be boring if everyone took the same teams...try the both out and see which on floats your boat.
MattRobson - Feb 23, 2003 - 03:34 AM
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not realy a big fan of Star Players might take a Fanatic just for fun i Know Varag is the best Idea but with every orc coach takin im I dont think he'll see much action (if both coaches have the same SP neither can use him)
But are 12 player important?? this is my first tourny been playin BB for ages (2nd edition, bring back the poly pitch!!!) in a league i would allways start with 12 but with the teams resetting and AV9 on most players should i just take 11??
Grumbledook - Feb 23, 2003 - 04:50 AM
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i think you will find a lot of teams with just 11 players, I am only taking 11. Its generally the weaker av7 teams that will be having more but then its prob going to be skaven cause they have cheap players where woodelves don't.
As for orcs they have av9 and are quite strong so are less likely to get out numbered. Also if you don't take varag also means you will face him when you play orc teams. Though its entirely up to you. When i play other chaos dwarf teams i fully expect to have only 10 men on my roster but as long as I don't have to play against hthark, I really don't mind.
Longshot - Feb 23, 2003 - 06:33 AM
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Longfang wrote:
Longshot wrote:
i will come with wood elves.
BTW,Del, do you have enough minis? .
Don't you worry Yohan, You'll have a fully painted Wood Elf team, we have the full compliment of the required players. DW just found another line elf hiding in the grandstand. Sorted!
These do you?
thx a thousand times mates
Darkson - Feb 23, 2003 - 06:33 PM
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Giong with the 11 man, no SP Skaven roster. As long as I get a few ranking points I'll be happy.
Indigo - Feb 24, 2003 - 03:15 AM
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Taking 11 man human team, with a slightly converted SP. No prizes for guessing who though
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Trambi - Feb 24, 2003 - 04:11 AM
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Longfang wrote:
Do yours wood elves figs are green and bone ? Blue and dark red or Dark red and green ?
Cos in the Dain's website (http://fredweb.chez.tiscali.fr/), the painters of wood elves are not registred.
Slinky78 - Feb 24, 2003 - 04:13 AM
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11 man orcs. Had problems deciding the black orc/blitzer ratios, but not much point thinking about it now, as the time for fiddling/practicing with rosters has largely passed - plus painting time is short so what's painted is going...and that's that (and maybe some paints and brushes for Friday night..)
Indigo - Feb 24, 2003 - 09:13 AM
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well I am at my cousins wedding on friday, getting home at 2am and then leaving at 5am, so everything will be done by thursday night or it ain't going
done 10 out of 11 men, still need to undercoat the last one
coaching staff are definitely 'optional' at this point. And to think I was going to bring custom built dugouts to this event!
Deathwing - Feb 24, 2003 - 09:33 AM
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Indigo wrote:
done 10 out of 11 men, still need to undercoat the last one
Ha! I'm way ahead of you. The undercoat on my last fig. is drying as I type.
Indigo - Feb 24, 2003 - 09:50 AM
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yeah but I'm still at work 
Max_Horseman - Feb 24, 2003 - 09:58 AM
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Hi guys,
I have to put finishing touches to my team dugout, paint 2 players (an ogre and a kicker), paint my Apothecary and Head Coach, and do my figures for score, re-roll & turn counters. No bother!!!
Max
P.S. Already booked Friday off work
Deathwing - Feb 24, 2003 - 10:01 AM
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Max_Horseman wrote:
Hi guys,
I have to put finishing touches to my team dugout, paint 2 players (an ogre and a kicker), paint my Apothecary and Head Coach, and do my figures for score, re-roll & turn counters. No bother!!!
Max
P.S. Already booked Friday off work
..don't forget the gallows and the monkey....
Thadrin - Feb 24, 2003 - 10:25 AM
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...the kitchen sink...
MattRobson - Feb 24, 2003 - 12:52 PM
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well ive finished my team a week ago
then i changed my roster 
so i painted some more now ive changed my roster again so have 2 blitzers and a varag to paint and a Ogre/Orc conversion !!!!! Will try to refrain from pointless roster changes, as im running out of black spray and hate undercoating by hand!!
Oh BTW anyone from the North East goin to the BB??
Slinky78 - Feb 24, 2003 - 03:49 PM
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I'm from the north east but live in Rugby, so yes and no.
Another varag..oh goodie.
Max_Horseman - Feb 25, 2003 - 02:03 AM
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Deathwing you cheeky monkey, I'll be converting you next.....
No kitchen sink I'm afraid, however I finished my Bear in a cage for my dugout last night, at well as the outer trim and started on the head coach. Don't ask, you gonna have to see it to believe it.
By Deathwing's not so criptic dig you can probably tell I'm a Pooly, but I don't live in the North East anymore, I am living over near Manchester now.
Max
Indigo - Feb 25, 2003 - 05:48 AM
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Deathwing wrote:
..don't forget the gallows and the monkey....
Is he fielding the Hartlepool team then...?
For those of you who don't know - Hartlepool, a small town in NE england, once hung a monkey because the entire population were convinced it was a french spy. They are now a source of great amusement for anyone from the NE
Max_Horseman - Feb 25, 2003 - 07:12 AM
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Yep, I'm Hartlepool through and through, my Norse team even have Blue and White (H'pool Utd's Colours) as their strip.
Besides, Frenchies, Monkeys, all the same right???
Max
Indigo - Feb 25, 2003 - 07:42 AM
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lol brill - we should get a game going between your monkeys and the 'Neuberg Magpies', a human team painted in... yes, you've guessed it...
Black & White stripes. Take one guess who they're based on
I would have used Norse, but the way I see it, the toon is more civilsed than the barbarian lands to the south
Indigo - Feb 25, 2003 - 07:44 AM
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and before you say it, no they don't look like a team of referees...
MattRobson - Feb 25, 2003 - 12:32 PM
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My taems also painted Black and White im from newcastle and yes they do look like a bunch of refs thats why there called DA REF SQUAD!!
Slinky78 - Feb 25, 2003 - 12:47 PM
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Have painted some of my shadowforge bunny-girls in black and white stripes, but some in pink, both look pretty good. Very hard to decide.... Got to have a toon team somewhere.
longfang - Feb 25, 2003 - 02:36 PM
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Trambi wrote:
Do yours wood elves figs are green and bone ? Blue and dark red or Dark red and green ?
Cos in the Dain's website (
http://fredweb.chez.tiscali.fr/), the painters of wood elves are not registred.
Hi Trambi, obviously the pics don't show here (I can see them). Mine are the red and green woodies.
Trambi - Feb 25, 2003 - 04:16 PM
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Since a week, I lost all my BB matchs. I hope that it will be different in the BloodBowl XLII (mean 42 in roman number ? or is it XXXXII ?)
Slinky78 - Feb 25, 2003 - 04:25 PM
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XXXXII = 42
Lucy - Feb 26, 2003 - 02:03 AM
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Slinky78 wrote:
XXXXII = 42
oooh, come on....
Of course it's XLII.
And this is how you write 88: XXXXXXXXIIIIIIII
Lucy
Max_Horseman - Feb 26, 2003 - 02:04 AM
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Great, who let the Georgies buy tickets???
Looking forward to seeing the teams!
Max
Indigo - Feb 26, 2003 - 04:30 AM
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lol Geordies, not Georgies
silly monkey
Max_Horseman - Feb 26, 2003 - 04:38 AM
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Bugger.....
Slinky78 - Feb 26, 2003 - 02:06 PM
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Ok, so it's not technically correct, but it means the same thing. Plus it's what's on the rulespack, so I'm going to cling onto some tenuous justification...
Roman numerals - nonsense, look where it go the romans....
coachblacknife - Feb 26, 2003 - 04:19 PM
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http://www.novaroma.org/via_romana/numbers.html
Heh heh
Slinky78 - Feb 27, 2003 - 04:52 PM
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It's Bloodbowl XXXXII - it says so on the front of the rules, so I don't care that it's horribly wrong in roman cr*ppy numbers. We have a perfectly good decimal system, we should stick to it.
twist - Feb 28, 2003 - 03:16 AM
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GOOD LUCK TO ALL! Wish I could be there.... Have a good time, but please don't pass me in the NAF Rankings... And no picking on Anthony, even though he's just a silly canuck...