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Melifaxis - Jan 04, 2004 - 06:35 PM
Post subject: 2004 NAF Legacy Team
It's that time again, and this year we're working on a Norse squad! Fanatic has generously donated the following to this year's team 
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We were initially working towards a due date of 07/31/2004, but it had been exteded to 08/31/2004, and then again to 09/30/2004. On October 4th, Jake Thorton and Jervis Johnson selected the random winner of the team. Congratulations Thadrin!! 
Also, Sturmjarl was randomly chosen to receive the extra minis.
Color Scheme:
Skull White / Enchanted Blue (->Lightening) / Boltgun Metal
List of Participants: (Those in bold font have arrived safe and sound)
Tackledummy [73] - Blitzer Conversion
TomB - Lineman 2 [54], Heresy Boris [66], and Cheerleader
Thadrin [5] - Catcher 2
KLK [15] - Lineman 3
Sturmjarl - Team Wizard
Tojurub [14] - Catcher 1
Hangus - Lineman 2
Djengis_kahn [17] - Blitzer 2
Jaylazer [13]- Lineman 3
howlinggriffon [27] - Lineman 2
McDeth [11] - Conversion, Chainsaw Wielding Lineman
Melifaxis - [33] Ogre
Dave - Zara
Xtreme - Minotaur [10] and Lineman [20]
Grasshopper - [4] [77] blitzer, lineman, and a cheerleader
Crazylegs - Minotaur
Shadewe - Lineman
Torg - Lineman
Majortusk - Thrower
kwailung - Thrower
KarlLagerbottom - Cathcher
Torpor [42] - Lineman 1 (Lost and found and back on the way with a thrower and marker as well )
Sineater - Pitch (waiting on final list of entries so he can finish it)
Jake T - The Mystery Contribution (will send directly to winner)
dwarfcoach - Lineman 1 (will send directly to winner)
Evil_Git1 - lineman conversion (on the way)
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By participating in this project, you agree that should you wish to sell the team you will post notification on the NAF Forum and send a PM to all of the other participants. This notification period will last for 14 days. During this time, the participants in the project will each be entitled to a single bid by silent auction.
You also agree to make an effort to bring the 2004 Legacy Team to any tournaments you attend for display or to perhaps even immortalize on the field of battle!
Melifaxis - Jan 06, 2004 - 02:34 PM
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Should we take the top 3 vote recipients at 01/31/04, and open a new poll to select from those?
Darkson - Jan 06, 2004 - 02:44 PM
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Sounds ok to me.
Torpor - Jan 06, 2004 - 03:30 PM
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Sounds fine. If I don't do a figure, I can always do more markers...
aerofool - Jan 06, 2004 - 08:23 PM
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Yes it's that time again! I've placed my vote, Looks like a 5-way tie for 2nd... Come on Guy's Get Yer Votes IN!
EvilGit - Jan 07, 2004 - 09:17 AM
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well i've put my vote up there and now there's a 7 way tie for second.
this might not be as easy as first thought.
BlanchPrez - Jan 07, 2004 - 11:25 AM
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My vote is in.
Chris
Tutenkharnage - Jan 08, 2004 - 06:11 AM
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As soon as I posted the 3rd vote for the Orcs, the floodgates opened 
-Chet
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 08, 2004 - 06:44 AM
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Yeah, the other pair voted... 
dwarfcoach - Jan 08, 2004 - 11:00 AM
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Well no one will believe my vote, but there it is, cast all the same.... 
Tutenkharnage - Jan 08, 2004 - 12:58 PM
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I smell a runoff!
Tutenkharnage - Jan 08, 2004 - 03:03 PM
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It smells bad. Very bad, indeed.
Melifaxis - Jan 08, 2004 - 03:06 PM
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Man, my lizardman vote is getting lonely
It smells kind of like the innards of a tuan tuan...
"...and I thought these things smelled bad on the outside."
-Han Solo
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 08, 2004 - 04:46 PM
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Umm, can you describe in more detail what that's like???
Especially since the runoff appears between Orcs and Necromantic teams!
Colin - Jan 08, 2004 - 05:29 PM
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Go for orcs, much better conversion possibilities IMO, maybe Squiggith will do another bare breasted cheerleader.
Tojurub - Jan 08, 2004 - 05:42 PM
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Even though I voted for the lonely (real) female team I'd rather see Orcs than Necromantic, just because the Vampires where last year and IMO there shouldn't be two undead teams in a row
Xtreme - Jan 08, 2004 - 08:39 PM
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Orcs could end up similar to the TBB legacy team. (Goblins)
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 08, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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I have wondered whether there are enough interested members who would work on a second legacy team, or is that overkill? I know I would love any team painted to the standards I've seen both here and at TBB, yet I would also like to have more people involved - for me, there would be no reduction in value or esteem for the team, but perhaps others feel differently.
Boblo_Jellyroll - Jan 08, 2004 - 10:17 PM
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I'd love to paint one for the team. Honestly I doubted that I'd get a spot over more experienced members. I voted for Amazons, though.
McDeth - Jan 09, 2004 - 01:55 AM
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Boblo_Jellyroll wrote:
I'd love to paint one for the team. Honestly I doubted that I'd get a spot over more experienced members. I voted for Amazons, though.
Its not about experience/ability. Its more about a bunch of us getting together and producing a joint effort. There are going to be varying standards of the finished product anyway. Its more about us as a community putting together something unique
Melifaxis - Jan 09, 2004 - 06:04 AM
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Well said McDeth
Melifaxis - Jan 09, 2004 - 07:33 AM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:
I have wondered whether there are enough interested members who would work on a second legacy team, or is that overkill? I know I would love any team painted to the standards I've seen both here and at TBB, yet I would also like to have more people involved - for me, there would be no reduction in value or esteem for the team, but perhaps others feel differently.
If the interest is there I don't see an issue either. I'd rather have 2 teams with 20 minis and 2 winners, than a 40 miniature team and 1 winner.
ForceCommander - Jan 09, 2004 - 07:58 AM
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Is this open to any interested NAF members? I'm not a great painter, but I can crank out something respectable.
I'd also be for 2 teams if there are enough participants.
Melifaxis - Jan 09, 2004 - 08:32 AM
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ForceCommander wrote:
Is this open to any interested NAF members? I'm not a great painter, but I can crank out something respectable.
I'd also be for 2 teams if there are enough participants.
Yes, this is open to all NAF members.
aerofool - Jan 09, 2004 - 08:39 AM
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Hey FC, welcome aboard! Yes it's open to any NAF member who wants to get involved.
BlanchPrez - Jan 09, 2004 - 10:39 AM
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Who's hosting it this time around? Or do we know yet?
Chris
cubefarmer - Jan 09, 2004 - 11:30 AM
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I voted for orcs and would be more than willing to add my brushstrokes to the next team, even if they will not be orcs.
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 09, 2004 - 11:34 AM
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BP - I don't think it's been decided yet.
Indigo - Jan 09, 2004 - 03:52 PM
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I voted for Necromantics - many people already have an Orc team, and although the NAF one will be truly unique, I thought the chance to tackle one of the newer Necromantic models (or give a new approach to one of the existing ones) was too good to pass up.
Having said that I'll be more than happy to work on either one. Now, back to the TBB one...
Hangus - Jan 10, 2004 - 06:15 AM
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i went for nurgle as more chance for crazy convertions but at 5 percent its just not going to happen
Darkson - Jan 10, 2004 - 09:24 AM
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Torg wrote:
Go for orcs, much better conversion possibilities IMO, maybe Squiggith will do another bare breasted cheerleader.
If there was ever a reason NOT to do an Orc team, that's it! 
longfang - Jan 10, 2004 - 10:08 AM
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Why isn't Norse on the poll. I think you should go for something with a lot of conversion possibilities. Look at what plastics from the warhammer range are available for building unique figs. If it's a team where there's good conversion and modeling opportunity I'll give something for this. How about Skaven
Djengis_kahn - Jan 11, 2004 - 04:14 AM
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I think the poll can end way before 31/1. Why not 15/1? not very much people winn vote now.. allready 40 votes !!
many of them will not be participating I think... (I THINK !!!) never had 40 guys participating in a legacy team I think..
longfang - Jan 11, 2004 - 04:59 AM
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Why rush, isn't this meant to be an annual thing
Melifaxis - Jan 11, 2004 - 07:10 AM
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There's definitely plenty of time. TBB Team goes through 1/31, plus many folks might have extended holidays. Plus I'm still waiting for a few 2003 figures in the mail.
The Norse missing from the list is an oversight on my part. 
That's one vote for Norse, and others just post them in the thread and we can total them up.
Colin - Jan 11, 2004 - 08:37 AM
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I think we should keep the same deadline every year (if we do one every year) end of Nov IIRC, so plenty of time to decide race, team colours, who does what, etc.
aerofool - Jan 11, 2004 - 03:10 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
The Norse missing from the list is an oversight on my part.
Man! I wanna change my vote to Norse then! Oh well... Maybe we can set up one more poll next weeek with our 2 top vote getters and throw in Norse to even the playing field. I think you did mention a run-off earlier, Mel.
As for time limits... I think to get one team done in one year is far too long a time limit. That encourages people to be lazy about their entries. I think one team every 6 months, and be forceful about a due date should work just fine. Plus I don't want to have another cool mini on my desk for weeks and weeks AND WEEKS only to get so attatched to it that it breaks my heart to see it go! The sooner I can get it done and sent out the better! No time for emotional attatchment! LOL!
@
Xtreme - Jan 11, 2004 - 08:44 PM
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Doesn't look like it matters at this point but Skaven would be a lot of fun, plenty of conversions available there with mutations and a range of plastics.
joker_BBBL - Jan 12, 2004 - 04:26 AM
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voted
Melifaxis - Jan 12, 2004 - 11:05 AM
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That's 2 for Norse. I PM'ed aerofool to see what he previously voted so we could deduct one from that squad. Anyone else that wants to do the same can.
We'll do a runoff at the end of the month, then talk about colors, etc.
Djengis_kahn - Jan 12, 2004 - 12:35 PM
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a tie between necromantic and orc now !! this is going to be a tight one !!
but are we doing a second poll after this with the 3 most voted?
Melifaxis - Jan 12, 2004 - 12:41 PM
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That's the plan. I think we also need a list of definite participants. If there are enough 2 teams becomes a possibility...
longfang - Jan 12, 2004 - 02:08 PM
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vote norse.
Thrower conversion
Lineman.
Darkson - Jan 12, 2004 - 03:04 PM
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LF, do you have som of those I-kore figs? Are they in scale with GW ones?
Old_Man_Monkey - Jan 12, 2004 - 08:08 PM
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OK, I'm in - I'd like to give it a shot...
Melifaxis - Jan 12, 2004 - 08:11 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:
OK, I'm in - I'd like to give it a shot...
Sweet!
p.s. Necro's just lost 2 votes that have gone the way of the Norse. The top 3 will be in another poll after this one's done...
Djengis_kahn - Jan 13, 2004 - 04:57 AM
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mellifaxis do you take this legacyteam too?
maybe every one who is sure he wants to participate, could send you a PM?
so you know how many people are in.
if you need help I will gladly offer some !
Djengis
Melifaxis - Jan 13, 2004 - 10:04 AM
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I'd be happy to coordinate things again, but if someone else wants to they may certainly step forward. I'm not sure a PM box can handle that volume, but if folks want to post that they are definitely interested I can update the first post of this thread with a list of names. (EDIT: I added everyone who posted thus far...if you want to be removed all you have to do is ask)
We could make Legacy Teams semi-annually if there is sufficient interest. One due in May and one in November? Spreads it out, satisfies those that think too much time can prove a detriment to success, and increases odds of winning. Thoughts? I'll make a poll
Also, for those that are curious I took some pics of the Vamp squad but they came out pretty badly (which is why I haven't posted them). I will get some outdoor photos of what has already arrived and get them posted to tide us over until the last few figs arrive. Also, I am painting up the two thralls that we didn't have and throwing them into the pot so that the team would have all of the official minis in it. 
Tutenkharnage - Jan 13, 2004 - 11:29 AM
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Please remove my name from the list. I'm a poster, not a painter
-Chet
Tojurub - Jan 13, 2004 - 12:42 PM
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Tutenkharnage wrote:
Please remove my name from the list. I'm a poster, not a painter
-Chet
If you are a poster...can I put you up on the wall in my hobby room?
Melifaxis - Jan 13, 2004 - 02:37 PM
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Tutenkharnage wrote:
Please remove my name from the list. I'm a poster, not a painter
-Chet
All set, but feel free to change your mind
SkinkFury - Jan 13, 2004 - 03:07 PM
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You ruined the poll you donkey.
Melifaxis - Jan 13, 2004 - 03:13 PM
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BAH! Ok, in light of my stupidity I shall start a new poll.
Tutenkharnage - Jan 13, 2004 - 03:49 PM
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Tojurub wrote:
If you are a poster...can I put you up on the wall in my hobby room?
No.
-Chet
Squiggoth - Jan 13, 2004 - 04:32 PM
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Darkson wrote:
Torg wrote:
Go for orcs, much better conversion possibilities IMO, maybe Squiggith will do another bare breasted cheerleader.
If there was ever a reason NOT to do an Orc team, that's it!
Thank you, I voted for Norse
Squiggoth - Jan 13, 2004 - 04:34 PM
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On the other hand... I want to paint a squig cheerleader!!! 
Martijn
Tojurub - Jan 13, 2004 - 05:12 PM
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Squiggoth wrote:
On the other hand... I want to paint a squig cheerleader!!!
Martijn
Nobody's keeping you from painting one and adding it as a special to the team
Mordredd - Jan 14, 2004 - 04:58 AM
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You can add my name to the list of interested persons.
Grasshopper - Jan 15, 2004 - 11:37 AM
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I know I voted but apparently I didn't sign the interested parties list. Sign me in.
Tackledummy - Jan 15, 2004 - 12:23 PM
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Please put my name on the list Mal.
In terms of several legacy teams a year, I would much rather have only one, for two reasons: The first being that of the original 40 who say they are going to contribute, I think the likelyhood is that when the final date looms about 10 will drop out. It seems to have happened with the other teams. This will leave two teams with 15 minis, or one with more than 15 and the other with bugger all. I also believe it takes from the prestige of owning the legacy team once its all over. Having one large or decent sized legacy team just seems so much more significant to me.
Secondly, I believe, if you are keen to contribute to a couple of legacy teams a year, you should join the TBB Legacy team and contribute to that as well. This allows you the possibility of winning one of two teams a year and yet does not dissolve the prestige of owning an annual legacy team.
Khankill - Jan 16, 2004 - 05:10 AM
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Please add me as well
Tackledummy - Jan 25, 2004 - 09:30 PM
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Heya Mal, had a username change, could you please change Buddafingas in the list to Tackledummy?
Cheers.
crazylegs - Jan 26, 2004 - 01:12 PM
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You can put me on the list as well, I'm looking forward to contributing to this...
howlinggriffon - Feb 04, 2004 - 10:37 AM
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I'd certainly like to have a go at submitting a figure so please add me to the list.
Cheers!
Howlinggriffon
joker_BBBL - Feb 06, 2004 - 01:18 AM
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mel, remove me from the list
thx
Hangus - Feb 06, 2004 - 02:18 AM
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Mel, you've Indigo down twice you don't want two toon inspired norsemen in a team
Indigo - Feb 06, 2004 - 03:03 AM
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why not?
haway the lads!
could someone PM me when this is about to start? And what I need to paint?
Happy to do anything. I'll do the mino if you like?
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 06, 2004 - 01:02 PM
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I'm in!
Melifaxis - Feb 10, 2004 - 11:32 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
List of participants:
Melifaxis
Old_Man_Monkey
Boblo_Jellyroll
dwarfcoach
Evil_Git1
Djengis_kahn
aerofool
Darkson
Torg
Xtreme
Longfang
cubefarmer
Tojorub
McDeth
ForceCommander
BlanchPrez
Indigo
Hangus
Torpor
Mordredd
Squiggoth
Tackledummy
Grasshopper
SkinkFury
Khankill
crazylegs
mikeyc222
KLK
Megaleif
howlinggriffon
AnthonyTBBF
Dave
Anyone missing from this list that wanted in?
Tim - Feb 11, 2004 - 03:00 AM
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put me down ... for now. definitely interested, just not sure.
Indigo - Feb 12, 2004 - 06:37 AM
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I'm not going to have time to properly contribute to this one - can you chop me off the list please?
Hangus - Feb 12, 2004 - 06:38 AM
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Indigo wrote:
I'm not going to have time to properly contribute to this one - can you chop me off the list please?
too busy with camcarnage 2 eh?
i'm still in
Indigo - Feb 12, 2004 - 07:20 AM
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that and other things
Melifaxis - Feb 12, 2004 - 12:50 PM
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Can a mod please make this a sticky thread?
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 12, 2004 - 01:02 PM
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Done.
Melifaxis - Feb 12, 2004 - 01:20 PM
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Thanks Anthony
Tackledummy - Feb 13, 2004 - 02:23 AM
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I asked to do a Blitzer conversion, not a lineman conversion. Could you possibly change it please Mel?
Melifaxis - Feb 13, 2004 - 06:13 AM
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My bad. Fixed
Melifaxis - Feb 13, 2004 - 10:31 AM
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Specialist Games has again agreed to make a donation to the cause!
Hat's off to them for their generosity!!
Details are being sorted out.
Tojurub - Feb 13, 2004 - 11:43 AM
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Specialist Games has again agreed to make a donation to the cause!
Djengis_kahn - Feb 13, 2004 - 12:19 PM
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Grasshopper - Feb 13, 2004 - 02:52 PM
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Allow me to be the Bartles and James of this group and say to Specialist:
Thank you for your support.
AnthonyTBBF - Feb 13, 2004 - 05:48 PM
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Sweet!
Hey maybe we should write an article about this for the Fanatic mag when we're done.
Melifaxis - Feb 13, 2004 - 06:35 PM
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That was the condition that I had to agree to
The first NAF Legacy Team will have a write-up in Fanatic #2
howlinggriffon - Feb 14, 2004 - 08:44 AM
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We should do a referee conversion - can anyone do a green stuff head that looks like Andy Hall?
Melifaxis - Feb 14, 2004 - 09:29 AM
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or a two-headed one like Andy and Jake?
mikeyc222 - Feb 14, 2004 - 09:32 AM
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sounds great...but what about the people who wanted to use a couple of phig's valkeries? since this will be in fanatic mag will they still be able to use those?
...somehow i doubt it.
howlinggriffon - Feb 14, 2004 - 09:35 AM
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Yeah - of course it can. They'll just use the pics of the GW models and "forget" to include any others.
Anyway - It's the first NAF team that Mel has to write a feature about, not this 2004 team.
Dave - Feb 14, 2004 - 01:42 PM
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I'll do an apo ..
hmm edit: make that coaching staff.
Djengis_kahn - Feb 14, 2004 - 02:15 PM
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cool !
crazylegs - Feb 14, 2004 - 05:57 PM
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I'd like to be put down for preferring to do the minotaur, but after that I don't care..
mikeyc222 - Feb 14, 2004 - 08:32 PM
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Dave wrote:
I'll do an apo ..
i got dibs
Tackledummy - Feb 15, 2004 - 11:18 PM
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Its probably a little early to be asking about this, but if its ok, I'd like to secure number 73 for my model. The number means quite a lot to me and I'd like to try and keep all my legacy minis concurrent.
EvilGit - Feb 16, 2004 - 03:17 AM
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well put my name down for a lineman then unless they've all gone and i'll do another
BlanchPrez - Feb 16, 2004 - 11:28 AM
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I'll do whatever, really, but if there's still room for one, I'd like to do a blitzer.
Or, wait, is there an ogre position available? I'll do that, as I have a partial Morg fig with a new ogre figure head. It was going to be for my Orc team, but as orc's can't have ogre's now (and neither can my two dwarf teams) it's doing noting in my collection. So, if an ogre is available, I'll happily do the ogre for this team.
Chris
aerofool - Feb 17, 2004 - 08:27 AM
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Once again, throw me into the random draw. As long as I get #6 again, I'll be happy with what-ever I get to paint up!
ForceCommander - Feb 17, 2004 - 09:09 AM
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I'd like to do a blitzer or a lineman...but I'd be happy with anything really
Melifaxis - Feb 17, 2004 - 09:59 AM
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I updated the list on the first post. These are just preferences for now so keep in mind that there are duplicates listed.
Please take a moment to look at the first post if you are going to participate in the team. Let me know if the terms of participation are acceptable or if you think they need adjustment.
Thanks
Tojurub - Feb 17, 2004 - 11:10 AM
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if possible I'd like number 14 for the catcher......has anybody thought about adding Zara to the list 
? She's allowed to play on a Norse team.
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 17, 2004 - 11:12 AM
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Good one, Tors! Tho' I don't want to paint 'er...
ForceCommander - Feb 17, 2004 - 12:08 PM
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So when are we shooting to have a list of "assignments" ready?
Time to get to the LGS and start shopping for parts!
Jamie
Melifaxis - Feb 17, 2004 - 12:15 PM
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It will probably take a couple of weeks to get the donated figures from GW. Until then, we don't really know what we have to work with. Still awaiting a response from Heresy.
The color poll ends tonight at midnight EST.
ForceCommander - Feb 17, 2004 - 12:16 PM
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So when are we shooting to have a list of "assignments" ready?
Time to get to the LGS and start shopping for parts!
Jamie
Dave - Feb 17, 2004 - 02:25 PM
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hmm I'd like to do Zara .. I can change from the blue then ...
Tojurub - Feb 17, 2004 - 03:28 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:
Good one, Tors! Tho' I don't want to paint 'er...
I like Zara....I fielded her for the first time at the Halflings Dinner Mug....much to the dislike of the Undead team I was playing against in teh first round (1 CAS for Zara!) MY Zara
I wouldn't mind painting another one of these figs...but I have this Catcher sitting on my desk calling for a paint job.
....can I start painting him as soon as we know the colour scheme?
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hmm I'd like to do Zara .. I can change from the blue then ...
You are supposed to paint her not DO her...that is Blood Bowl for heavens sake 
Torpor - Feb 19, 2004 - 04:19 PM
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For the sake of having something by my name - put down 'whatever' + a marker of some sort (score or turn). I don't want to do a full set of markers this time around and I would like to do an on pitch figure of some sort (lineman, blitzer, thrower, catcher, whatever). If people think that I am doing too much by adding in a marker, I can skip the marker...
-Torpor
Sineater - Feb 19, 2004 - 04:46 PM
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Can i play
Whats left to choose from?
and i could do a pitch as well
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 19, 2004 - 04:56 PM
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Pitch could be cool, although I'm not the organizer...
howlinggriffon - Feb 19, 2004 - 05:23 PM
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Hey - now a NAF pitch woulf be amazing...
Old_Man_Monkey - Feb 19, 2004 - 06:19 PM
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A NAF pitch, but in the overall colors of the team?!?! NICE...!
howlinggriffon - Feb 19, 2004 - 06:23 PM
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Yeah - a snow pitch but with a NAF logo in the center
Thadrin - Feb 19, 2004 - 11:58 PM
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I'll do a CATCHER. I have a spare lying around anyway.
Melifaxis - Feb 20, 2004 - 07:04 AM
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Updated through here. I'm going to edit the order of the names to group by player type where possible so its easier to get an idea of what we have as preferences at a glance.
A pitch would be an amazing thing, and I like the snow covered NAF Logo in the team colors idea, although if someone were going to do a pitch they could certainly do whatever their creative muses were encouraging.
Sineater - Feb 20, 2004 - 07:36 PM
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Ok got a question. I came up with what i think is a awsome pitch for the team, what i need to know is what text should i include?
I mean like NAF Legacy Team 2004 Or do we have a name for the team or something like that?
Also anyone want to look at what i have in mind and i can rework it if everyone would prefer something else?
And finally, Should i submit the file for download by everyone, or should this be unquire to the winner?
Needless to say i will be sending in a printed pitch and am looking into various mounting ideals.
longfang - Feb 23, 2004 - 12:13 PM
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If any one want to do anothe thrower there's this....
http://www.fantization.com/I-Kore/Barbarians/July_Freelance4a.JPG
Melifaxis - Feb 23, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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I'd be happy to take a look at what you have. You can e-mail greedov@yahoo.com, but I can't look at Yahoo from work. I think the winner will probably want to name the team.
Longfang that would make a great thrower!
Colin - Feb 23, 2004 - 07:23 PM
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I'm going to have to pull out of this as I'm not sure I will have time for it.
Sineater - Feb 23, 2004 - 10:10 PM
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Now keep in midn this is just my first idea, so i am just molling things over and nothign is written in stone (ice). Feedback is most welcome.
Darkson - Feb 24, 2004 - 12:51 AM
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Nice!
Tojurub - Feb 24, 2004 - 06:18 AM
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do you want some real snow and ice to model it better...we have plenty here in Minnesota, should I send some your way?
Looks great too me ....just lacking some blood stains in the ice
Sineater - Feb 24, 2004 - 06:51 AM
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Tojurub wrote:
do you want some real snow and ice to model it better...we have plenty here in Minnesota, should I send some your way?
i love the snow, send it my way
Melifaxis - Feb 24, 2004 - 07:29 AM
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That is an excellent pitch!
You only love snow when you don't have to shovel > 4 feet in a given winter
Sineater - Feb 24, 2004 - 08:35 AM
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Well the pitch still needs refinement. I would put a logo on the bottom to read something like NAF Legacy team 2004 or something like that.
Plus could tailor the pitch to suit the group needs. Like i said not sure if people would want the pitch to actually carry a name or other info.
Melifaxis - Feb 24, 2004 - 05:48 PM
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You could always leave that up to the lucky winner...
Tim - Feb 25, 2004 - 06:16 AM
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This looks more like a hockey field with curling endzones
I'd like the pitch to be a bit more dirty ... after all there's a game of Blood Bowl played on it! Depending on how deep you imagine the snow to be , i'd like some earth peeking through, blood stains and other details.
Darkson - Feb 25, 2004 - 06:28 AM
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Not if it's on an ice floe , though I agree a few bloodstains wouldn't go amiss.
Mordredd - Feb 25, 2004 - 11:10 AM
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I would prefer the pitch to be more like frozen tundra than an ice flow. Norsca isn't that far north. So lots of dirt and thin tough looking grass, the usual BB field detritus and snow heavily encroaching on the borders of the field with patches further in would be much better.
The logo in the centre of the field is fantastic, but looks too 'printer perfect'. Is there any chance of it being 'roughed up a bit', or made to look more like it's been painted onto grass?
Just my opinion, and I realise all that could be a very large amount of hard work.
Sineater - Feb 25, 2004 - 12:23 PM
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Ok so we want a little dirt and blood instead of the ice cap. The dirt i think i can do, its the blood that is more likely to be the problem. Ya see i am not an artist, these pitches are made with lots of fills, tubes and brushes. As for the center art i do think i could roughen it up a little.
The hardest thing i have foudn so far is trying to get snow to look realistic on top of grass (which was my first attempt). Will play around sopem more with it till i get it right though, we got time
Sineater - Feb 25, 2004 - 01:16 PM
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I dont really care for this as much but is this what you (group) is looking for?
Darkson - Feb 25, 2004 - 01:45 PM
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Hmm, i think the snow could do with being a litle more pronounced, but I think that's on the right lines. Only other thing I can see is that the design should be centred, and could do with the NAF shield like the original.
But I like!
Melifaxis - Feb 25, 2004 - 02:02 PM
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Same thoughts here, and a bit more dirt.
Great job!
mikeyc222 - Feb 25, 2004 - 02:40 PM
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man, you guys are never happy
Darkson - Feb 25, 2004 - 02:51 PM
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Hey, I liked the ice floe one!
Sineater - Feb 25, 2004 - 04:12 PM
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yeah its not centered, I was not meanign for this to be a actual pitch, rather was just tossing something together to show you the way snow looks.
Which brings upi another thought, are we planning on making rules for playing in da snow? If not then would it not be better to just have a clear field?
Darkson - Feb 25, 2004 - 04:23 PM
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Nah, leave it on. I've seen some nice looking pitches that looked closer to a ploughed field than a BB pitch.
Tim - Feb 26, 2004 - 03:26 AM
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Imo, This is going in the right direction. Less grass, more dirt (esp. at the LOS), a little more snow. Btw ... you can clearly see the spray can brush you used for that one
I redid all the bases of my Norse team, i'll post some pics soon as a suggestion for the Legacy team design. The bases are brushed dark brown -> leather -> bone -> white with the edges painted grey. I really love the look of that and that's what i'd imagine for the pitch as well.
Tim - Feb 26, 2004 - 11:43 AM
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Here's the first pic:
Ben - Feb 26, 2004 - 12:07 PM
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Nice! I really like the way the bases turned out, much better than before. I might steal that technique for my space wolves.
Squiggoth - Feb 27, 2004 - 03:37 AM
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Sweet... They way you did the blond hair is great! I hate painting blondes
Tim - Feb 27, 2004 - 03:51 AM
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Squiggoth wrote:
Sweet... They way you did the blond hair is great! I hate painting blondes
Thx! I found out that you have to be very careful with yellow when painting blonde. I start with bubonic brown, then a light snakebite leather (-> brownish blonde) or chestnut wash (reddish blonde). Then highligths in a mix of bubonic brown and bone with a little bit of sunburst yellow. I guess it's almost like painting NMM gold (not that i ever tried that)
Squiggoth - Feb 27, 2004 - 04:06 AM
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D'oh! I never considered mixing yellow paint in with the browns... Thanks!
Goldilocks
Melifaxis - Feb 27, 2004 - 11:03 PM
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Squiggoth's slutty cheerleader added to the web for the 2003 squad
Tackledummy - Feb 29, 2004 - 08:01 PM
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Seems the thread has gone a bit quiet, so I was wondering...now we have the colour scheme do we settle on specific GW colours to use or just go with what you think looks best?
Melifaxis - Mar 01, 2004 - 08:30 AM
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Just waiting for the generously donated miniatures so we know what we've got to work with, can sort things out, and roll on the kick off table
Jake will be bringing them with him to the TKC in < 2 weeks, so when I get home on Monday the 15th we should be in good shape to get things started and still have plenty of time before the July 31st deadline.
Grasshopper - Mar 05, 2004 - 08:39 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Squiggoth's slutty cheerleader added to the web for the 2003 squad
Best Skellie I've seen !!!
Teambloodyhorns - Mar 07, 2004 - 04:09 PM
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is there still room to get in on this as i would love to help ...will do whatever figure is needed
Melifaxis - Mar 07, 2004 - 04:38 PM
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No sweat, you're in
EvilGit - Mar 08, 2004 - 01:30 AM
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hey mel
any word about the minis or do we need to provide our own?
Melifaxis - Mar 08, 2004 - 05:06 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Jake will be bringing them with him to the TKC in < 2 weeks, so when I get home on Monday the 15th we should be in good shape to get things started and still have plenty of time before the July 31st deadline.
EvilGit - Mar 08, 2004 - 01:01 PM
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oh
that'll teach me mel
Melifaxis - Mar 16, 2004 - 04:42 AM
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Ok, I'm back after attending a phenomenal tournament!
Fanatic has generously donated 2 Norse teams to the 2004 NAF Legacy Team project! Thank you Jake and Andy!!
After a quick inventory, we have the following to work with:
Thrower x 4
Lineman 1 x 4
Lineman 2 x 4
Lineman 3 x 4
Blitzer 1 x 2
Blitzer 2 x 2
Catcher 1 x 2
Catcher 2 x 2
howlinggriffon - Mar 16, 2004 - 05:49 AM
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That's fantastic! Nice one, Fanatic
When are you going to do the draw of who gets to paint which model? (For the people that didn't request to paint a specific model)
I'm ready and willing to start painting right now
Teambloodyhorns - Mar 16, 2004 - 07:02 AM
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same here ready to get to work on painting mini for this team
Melifaxis - Mar 16, 2004 - 08:47 AM
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Very, very soon
I'm swamped at work after being out for a few days, but if you folks want to e-mail your NAF nickname, name, & mailing address (make sure to include country if you're outside the USA) to robert.fossey@fmr.com with NAF Legacy Team in the subject I will add all of that to a spreadsheet at lunch and get ready to kick things off.
Also, Jake Thornton himself will be finding something or other around the office to paint up and contribute to the team! That's right, we've got the head of system in on the fun now as well
howlinggriffon - Mar 16, 2004 - 09:12 AM
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Ooo - not sure if we can allow that unless he officially joins NAF like the rest of us
Melifaxis - Mar 16, 2004 - 10:50 AM
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I'm pretty sure that he already has
Tojurub - Mar 16, 2004 - 11:16 AM
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Am I mistaken or is it possible to create two full teams with the donated figures?!
Ben - Mar 16, 2004 - 12:04 PM
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What colours we using for the team so i can get started?
BlanchPrez - Mar 16, 2004 - 01:08 PM
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I don't see an ogre on that list. I'd still like to do that if possible. Otherwise, I'll put my name in for the drawing and take whatever I get.
Chris
Melifaxis - Mar 16, 2004 - 01:38 PM
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There are technically enough figures to do so, but the idea of multiple teams wasn't really well received earlier on when it was brought up:
http://www.bloodbowl.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=1143&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
Ben, the colour scheme is in the first post of this thread
Skull White / Enchanted Blue (-> Lightening) / Boltgun Metal
Melifaxis - Mar 17, 2004 - 08:35 AM
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Ok, I've randomized things using some dice so we can get started. I started off randomly selecting the painters for Thrudd, the Minotaur, and the Ogre. Then taking into account all of the conversions or alternate miniatures already volunteered, then I filled preferences and randomized the rest to get us 4 blitzers, 2 catchers, 2 throwers, and 12 linemen.
So even if you didn't get one of the random positions to simply paint you can still have a Norse miniature to use in your conversion work for assistant coaches, head coach, cheerleaders or markers. Time to get creative
Ogre: BlanchPrez
Minotaur: crazylegs
Thrudd: Mordredd
Blitzer 1: ForceCommander
Blitzer 2: Tim & Djengis_khan
Catcher 1: Tojorub
Catcher 2: Thadrin
Thrower: Ben
Lineman 1: aerofool, Torpor, dwarfcoach
Lineman 2: Squiggoth, Hangus, howlinggriffon
Lineman 3: Jaylazer, Boblo_Jellyroll, KLK
Feel free to hack and covert the minis with some greenstuff even if you were randomly selected to paint a mini above. It will only make the team more unique in the end. I'll go in and update the first post with the above.
Keep those addresses coming if I need to send you a figure.
Also, my conversion idea could easily be changed so if someone wants to work on a thrower, feel free to claim it and I will do an assistant coach or something else
Melifaxis - Mar 17, 2004 - 12:56 PM
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I can't believe no one has dibs on a chainsaw wielding lineman yet!! 
Dave - Mar 17, 2004 - 01:02 PM
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ME ME ME!!!!
Melifaxis - Mar 17, 2004 - 01:04 PM
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Ok, but you're giving up Zara...
Dave - Mar 17, 2004 - 01:06 PM
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true .. but I got ideas already ...
If someone else wants the chainsaw guy .. let him and I'll do Zara .. otherwise ..
Melifaxis - Mar 17, 2004 - 02:04 PM
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If it's alright with you gentlemen, Grasshopper and I have come up with a plan. We'd like to make a dugout in the form of a Norse Longship as our entries for the Legacy Team. That would open up another thrower slot as well. Is it ok for us to combine our efforts on this? What do you think?
mikeyc222 - Mar 17, 2004 - 02:40 PM
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sounds good to me. i gotta start getting all my parts together for my apoth...
BlanchPrez - Mar 18, 2004 - 09:48 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
If it's alright with you gentlemen, Grasshopper and I have come up with a plan. We'd like to make a dugout in the form of a Norse Longship as our entries for the Legacy Team. That would open up another thrower slot as well. Is it ok for us to combine our efforts on this? What do you think?
I have no problem with this at all.
Chris
Teambloodyhorns - Mar 18, 2004 - 10:02 AM
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do you mind since i wasnt picked if i add another mintoar to the team?
it a fig i got laying around here
Melifaxis - Mar 18, 2004 - 10:22 AM
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Do you think you can make him look like an assistant coach? I don't mind, but what does crazylegs think?
Also, there are still miniatures available for conversion into support staff, markers, and the other thrower position as long as no one objects to OD and I combining forces on a dugout, markers, etc.
Djengis_kahn - Mar 18, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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I can paint more models if needed..
I'l probably just convert the normal BB models then..
I'll like to paint a throwerof more linemen !!
I don't care !
I think we should try and make the many positions as possible so the winner can go for any line up he wants.
and the idea of making a longship dug out is great mel !!
and you sure can combine your etry for it !!
It will be nice !!
Old_Man_Monkey - Mar 18, 2004 - 11:57 AM
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Melifaxis and Grasshopper - no problem with me - I think it would be great to had a display stand to show the figs off with - but you'll have to wait until everyone submits their entries, right?
I'm more interested in quality (tho' why I'm painting then is hard to explain... ) so a really great display base would be cool...
Are we still on for a pitch for this team as well? Haven't heard a final on that one...
-OMM
Sturmjarl - Mar 18, 2004 - 01:31 PM
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Hey All!!,
I know I may be late coming to this but I would LOVE to partake in this if possible. I realize you have MANY positions filled but Vikings are one of my specialties-I did the Valkyrie Amazon team at the TKC in Orlando. If you need more ideas with all those figs I would add the old Star Players from the Citadel Journal list -Wolhowl Blackscar, Icepelt Hammerblow, and Ulrik Wuulfson. I am open to painting/converting any fig. (wizard/cheerleaders/mascots??) LMK either way or even if you need a last-minute alternate to make your July deadline. I have SOOO MANY Viking figs that I could certainly whip something up given a week or so.
Thanks!!!
crazylegs - Mar 18, 2004 - 01:31 PM
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@Teambloodyhorns & Melifaxis:
As far as another minotaur the thing I would say against that idea is that since I switched to using a converted GW doombull as the mino, he'll be tourney legal wherever you go, so whoever wins the team would have a repetetive miniature (unless you make him look like an assistant or something). On the positive side, the winner would have an extra mino to choose from, which isn't a bad thing...
Either way, my fun won't be affected, so I say do what you want.
Melifaxis - Mar 18, 2004 - 01:46 PM
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Sturmjarl wrote:
Hey All!!,
I know I may be late coming to this but I would LOVE to partake in this if possible. I realize you have MANY positions filled but Vikings are one of my specialties-I did the Valkyrie Amazon team at the TKC in Orlando. If you need more ideas with all those figs I would add the old Star Players from the Citadel Journal list -Wolhowl Blackscar, Icepelt Hammerblow, and Ulrik Wuulfson. I am open to painting/converting any fig. (cheerleaders/mascots??) LMK either way or even if you need a last-minute alternate to make your July deadline. I have SOOO MANY Viking figs that I could certainly whip something up given a week or so.
Thanks!!!
The more the merrier Just let us know what you'd like to do and if you need one of the supplied minis to convert
Teambloodyhorns I'll leave the decision up to you based on crazylegs comments. Personally, I'd love to see a mino converted to support staff of some kind but it's really about having fun and making a unique team
Sineater - Mar 18, 2004 - 02:18 PM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:
Are we still on for a pitch for this team as well? Haven't heard a final on that one...
You bet. i have just been working on a revamp to the templte. now the pitch should be dead on size wise
Sineater - Mar 18, 2004 - 03:06 PM
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in reguards to the pitch, i do have one problem. Try as i might and trust me, i have, i just can not get snow to look right on the grass. I can make mud no sweat, but the contrast between white and green is to much. In the end it just looks like fluffy clouds. So which way do you want me to go, i can stick with the ice field i posted earlier, or i can go with a grassy mud hole. As far as a snowy look, i can do the background and text to look wintery.
so what say you?
Darkson - Mar 18, 2004 - 03:31 PM
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Go with the Floe (geddit?)
Grasshopper - Mar 18, 2004 - 03:41 PM
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Hey SIN. Is the ORC pitch you designed supposed to be that small? (Only 4 panels?)
Sineater - Mar 18, 2004 - 04:05 PM
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Grasshopper wrote:
Hey SIN. Is the ORC pitch you designed supposed to be that small? (Only 4 panels?)
yep, its a BB7 pitch. its the first one i printed and laminated. looks pretty wicked
howlinggriffon - Mar 18, 2004 - 04:08 PM
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It's a much more sane way of making a BB7's pitch then painting over a normal BB pitch
Teambloodyhorns - Mar 18, 2004 - 04:49 PM
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ok i mintor assit. coach comming up
Grasshopper - Mar 19, 2004 - 06:42 AM
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Sineater wrote:
Grasshopper wrote:
Hey SIN. Is the ORC pitch you designed supposed to be that small? (Only 4 panels?)
yep, its a BB7 pitch. its the first one i printed and laminated. looks pretty wicked
Que es BB7? I know I actually printed up and lam'd all your pitches (save the Floe) and they're freaking great.
Melifaxis - Mar 19, 2004 - 07:45 AM
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BB7's is a quicker version you can play on a narrower pitch so you can play BB in your lunch hour.
http://www.specialist-games.com/bloodbowl/resources.htm
There is a PDF here with the rules
mikeyc222 - Mar 19, 2004 - 07:57 AM
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my only question now becomes, how do we make the transition from a BB pitch that is made all snowy and stuff to a dugout being a viking longship? i like the idea but maybe we should make a BB @ sea pitch and the longship dugouts could be lashed to the side of the pitch ship...just a thought. maybe sin could make the pitch look like it was right next to a dock...or maybe the longship dugout could be "beached"...anyway, i digress...
Melifaxis - Mar 19, 2004 - 08:33 AM
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If the pitch is an ice floe why couldn't a longship be pulled upside it?
Grasshopper - Mar 19, 2004 - 09:26 AM
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Ooohh... He thinks ! ! !
mikeyc222 - Mar 19, 2004 - 12:43 PM
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well, there is that
Melifaxis - Mar 19, 2004 - 01:28 PM
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Phew!
Good thing Sineater didn't like the other pitch or I wouldn't have had a good excuse
Grasshopper - Mar 19, 2004 - 01:30 PM
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grounded at low tide?
Melifaxis - Mar 19, 2004 - 01:39 PM
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Ok, maybe we would have
EvilGit - Mar 19, 2004 - 03:38 PM
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i didn't see my name on the list. is it ok if i still do one. i'll send you my details in a second mel.
crazylegs - Mar 19, 2004 - 05:16 PM
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How are we doing numbers? By that I mean, are we going to alot/choose numbers so that every player has a different number? If we are choosing, I'd like to request #7.
Also, was there ever a decision on what color the base & the numbers should be? I know we're doing snow, but are the sides going to be grey, green, brown, etc? and what color should we use to number the bases?
Grasshopper - Mar 22, 2004 - 07:45 AM
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YOU'LL TAKE WHAT YOU'RE GIVEN AND LIKE IT YOU SNOT ! ! !
Just kidding, I have no idea. I think last time it was just first called first gotten.
Melifaxis - Mar 22, 2004 - 09:43 AM
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If you want a number post the number you would like
There are already a few taken and they are in the first post in brackets [ ]
Old_Man_Monkey - Mar 22, 2004 - 10:07 AM
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OMM - #69
Grasshopper - Mar 22, 2004 - 10:13 AM
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Hmmm... do we have to number the boat?
Melifaxis - Mar 22, 2004 - 10:42 AM
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Tim wrote:
I redid all the bases of my Norse team, i'll post some pics soon as a suggestion for the Legacy team design. The bases are brushed dark brown -> leather -> bone -> white with the edges painted grey. I really love the look of that and that's what i'd imagine for the pitch as well.
This seemed to be a well received idea for bases. I usually put the number in the front and my NAF Nickname on the back. We don't want it to be too structured though so that each painter has a good degree of freedom. Thus, you can use this as a guide if you'd like or you can do whatever your inner muse demands
p.s. The picture is back on page 10 of this thread.
howlinggriffon - Mar 22, 2004 - 11:15 AM
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I'll take #27
Gilles Villeneuve - gone but not forgotten...
Melifaxis - Mar 22, 2004 - 03:12 PM
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Numbers added to first post
Mailed out 6 mini's today...keep those addresses coming!
jaylazer - Mar 22, 2004 - 05:47 PM
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I'll take 13 as my number.
Teambloodyhorns - Mar 22, 2004 - 08:02 PM
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will take hitting coach for the min i doing
McDeth - Mar 23, 2004 - 03:57 AM
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been thinking about what conversion to contribute ,howabout a Chainsaw wielding Lineman, Say Number 11
Ben - Mar 23, 2004 - 06:39 AM
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I'll take number 1 and OMM your a perv, i wanted that number . Anyway my guy is almost done just need to go buy the enchanted blue to finish the remainding parts. I'll post a pic before i send it over if i can get some web space from someone.
Ben
jaylazer - Mar 23, 2004 - 07:05 AM
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Ben,
I can post the pic for you.
Melifaxis - Mar 23, 2004 - 08:10 AM
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McDeth wrote:
been thinking about what conversion to contribute ,howabout a Chainsaw wielding Lineman, Say Number 11
I was wondering when someone was gonna go for the chainsaw! It's all yours! PM me your address and mini preference if you want a norse mini to convert
BlanchPrez - Mar 23, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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I really don't care what number my figure is... I'll take 10, I guess, but I'm not attached to it if someone else really wants it.
Chris
Djengis_kahn - Mar 24, 2004 - 07:41 AM
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I'll take #17 then..
KLK - Mar 25, 2004 - 09:19 PM
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yes, I'm late, but I'm ready too.
My lineman will be the number 15.
I hope that nobody else want that number.
CBBL IS HERE (ME TOO)
Darkson - Mar 26, 2004 - 03:51 AM
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I'll take #0, as she'll probably be sitting on the sidelines anyway!
Melifaxis - Mar 26, 2004 - 12:08 PM
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Numbers updated.
3 more minis mailed out today
crazylegs - Mar 26, 2004 - 12:30 PM
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I had requested #7 for the mino...
Melifaxis - Mar 26, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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All set, sorry about that.
crazylegs - Mar 26, 2004 - 01:45 PM
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No problem. It's just that I just painted it on a chuck of armor last night, so when I didn't see it next to my id, I wanted to make sure...
Djengis_kahn - Mar 27, 2004 - 04:30 AM
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My mini arrived today !
It's a nice mini !!
Melifaxis - Mar 27, 2004 - 07:10 AM
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Glad to hear it got there safe and sound
Djengis_kahn - Mar 29, 2004 - 01:31 AM
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I will convert and paint it. But we have all the time. Not? so probably I'll be painting other models before..
I've got a team to paint...
ForceCommander - Mar 29, 2004 - 04:46 AM
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My Blitzer arrived on Saturday!
Can't wait to get started on him, could I possibly get #4?
Jamie
Tojurub - Mar 29, 2004 - 06:44 AM
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My Catcher also made it to me on Saturday...may the painting begin....but proabably not before my move from the US to Germany in May...when is the deadline again? July?
Melifaxis - Mar 29, 2004 - 08:11 AM
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July 31st
Boblo_Jellyroll - Mar 29, 2004 - 05:26 PM
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Got my player today! If it hasn't been taken yet, I'd like the number 12. Should I put my name or the player's name on the base?
Melifaxis - Mar 30, 2004 - 05:11 AM
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12 is all yours. The norm is to put your NAF Username
There is still an open thrower position...
howlinggriffon - Apr 01, 2004 - 03:15 PM
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Mel,
Just wanted to let you know the Lineman made it all the way to the UK - I got mine today Not bad really - he's been to the US and back and, with any luck, he might be doing the same journey again if I win the lottery
I'm off on holiday on Saturday but I'll start work on him as soon as I get back - I can't wait to start actually!
Cheers!
Hangus - Apr 02, 2004 - 04:34 AM
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got mine Rob cheers should start it tonight
Melifaxis - Apr 02, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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Excellent, glad to hear they are arriving safe and sound. We did have one casualty (arrived but mini was damaged) thus far, but it seems the postal services of several nations are doing a good job.
Time to start drafting longship schematics
Old_Man_Monkey - Apr 03, 2004 - 03:35 AM
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Rob - keep track of your postage.... since Fanatic donated the figs, we can ante up something for the posting of the minis.
McDeth - Apr 03, 2004 - 06:31 AM
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Work started on Chainsaw wielding looney Norse Lineman
Djengis_kahn - Apr 03, 2004 - 11:04 AM
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wow !!
Great work mcdeth !!!
Looks cool !!
great pose and Nice chainsaw !!!
Good Work !!
McDeth - Apr 04, 2004 - 01:29 AM
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90% done
Hangus - Apr 04, 2004 - 01:31 AM
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quick and cool work fella damn i have not even glued mine to its base yet
Tojurub - Apr 04, 2004 - 06:21 AM
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ok?????...I can only see red X instead of images
EvilGit - Apr 05, 2004 - 04:42 AM
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well my lineman has finally arrived and i'll start work on him very shortly. at present i'm toying with the idea of slightly customising him, probably just end up adding a skull on a chain with which to hit people or something.
Djengis_kahn - Apr 05, 2004 - 07:10 AM
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looks good mcdeth !
wish I could paint that fast !!
Melifaxis - Apr 07, 2004 - 08:06 AM
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Looking good indeed!
Jim, I'll keep track of the postage, but it's really minimal in the scheme of things so you guys don't have to worry about it.
Ben - Apr 07, 2004 - 09:19 AM
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DAMN! Mine should have been done yesterday but when i went to touch up some of the blue parts i opened up this old stupid GW paint and some of it spilled on the mini. That like totally sucks, so i'll be touching it up today and have it finished once and for all.
Melifaxis - Apr 07, 2004 - 10:12 AM
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Ouch
EvilGit - Apr 08, 2004 - 01:57 AM
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hmm not good.
well slightly customised mine and undercoated, but i still need to finish off a couple of teams before the bb in may so this will be taking a back seat for the next week or two.
Tackledummy - Apr 11, 2004 - 09:13 PM
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Hmmmmm, haven't started mine...oh dear...
Tackledummy - Apr 24, 2004 - 03:57 PM
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Woohoo! Finally started on the blitzer, should have him finished in about a month...I hope...
Melifaxis - Apr 25, 2004 - 06:06 AM
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Still plenty of time. So far I have only done a few sketches for the longship, but I just finished my NBA Legacy Team figure so this is on the top of the list for individual projects now
Sineater - May 10, 2004 - 12:06 AM
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when i said i was working on another project for the Legacy, in addition to the pitch?
Well this is still a work in progress but here's the direction i am going.
Its in a very rough stage right now, but what your looking at is a embrodiery machine badge. I took the logo and converted it into a machine readable file. I am going to stich it and make a dice bag. The front will be the badge and the back will read "NAF Legacy 2004"
The bag will be blue of course to go with the team colors
mikeyc222 - May 10, 2004 - 07:16 AM
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that rocks! any chance you would consider making more and sharing?
Sineater - May 10, 2004 - 08:39 AM
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well the problem is two fold. First i dont hold the copywrite so i could not do it without permission. I figured it was not a problem for the contest, or for a personal thing. Second your talking a whole lot of work here! Each badge takes 61mins to stich and thats just sew time not the time it takes to switch out threads. They also are rather $$ to make, not even counting labor but the thread and such to make them.
mikeyc222 - May 10, 2004 - 09:05 AM
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uh, nevermind then. lol
Grasshopper - May 10, 2004 - 10:57 AM
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Welcome to Sineater's Pitches&Patches. How can we help you?
Sineater - May 10, 2004 - 11:31 AM
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lol just a creative kinda guy i guess
Really though this was something i came up with for the legacy team, thought it would be a neat little extra.
Melifaxis - May 10, 2004 - 12:09 PM
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Very cool indeed
SBG - May 10, 2004 - 09:25 PM
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Wow! It is very nice and I would damn right buy at least 10 for our league if the NAF ever consider producing that !
Fred
Old_Man_Monkey - May 11, 2004 - 02:56 AM
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Sine - that patch is awesome! It's fine that you've given us that one to look at and I am planning on having an order of patches almost exactly like that made this week... so thanks for the preview! Torpor (one of the the NBA leaders) has asked for some and if anyone wants some for league or personal use, there will be more information coming out in a day or two...
Man, Sine, you are one creative guy!
-OMM (just returning from the BB and still exhausted...)
Grasshopper - May 11, 2004 - 12:43 PM
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Oooohhh... Poor little monkey.
Now when else can I say that and not have the PC police on my ass?
Torpor - May 11, 2004 - 01:00 PM
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Torpor (one of the the NBA leaders) has asked for some and if anyone wants some for league or personal use, there will be more information coming out in a day or two...
Jim-
I am not part of the NBA (that I know of, but there was a lot of drinking at Bugman's on Saturday...), but thanks for the thought in that direction and looking forward to the patches.
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Now when else can I say that and not have the PC police on my ass?
Grasshopper-
'Spank the Monkey' was played at the Blood Bowl, but it didn't involve OMM that I know of...
Torpor
Melifaxis - May 11, 2004 - 01:55 PM
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Torpor wrote:
'Spank the Monkey' was played at the Blood Bowl, but it didn't involve OMM that I know of...
Torpor
I'm hoping that's just a bad song and not a game...
p.s. Grasshopper, your orcs are toast! 
Torpor - May 11, 2004 - 02:25 PM
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I'm hoping that's just a bad song and not a game...
Mel-
It is a card game by a Swedish ( ? ) company, Gigantoskop and involves building piles of junk to reach the same height as the monkey to then spank it. Sounds more, erm, dodgy than it is. Like Fluxx, it was played a lot in Bugmans as we were drinking and chatting.
TomB - May 12, 2004 - 07:35 AM
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just wondering if it is too late too join? If there is a spare lineman miniature going i could convert it into anything needed.
I know im new to NAF but it would be cool to get involved. If there arent any spare minis, i might be able to get my hands on something to send in?
Grasshopper - May 12, 2004 - 09:18 AM
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Torpor wrote:
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I'm hoping that's just a bad song and not a game...
Mel-
It is a card game by a Swedish ( ? ) company, Gigantoskop and involves building piles of junk to reach the same height as the monkey to then spank it. Sounds more, erm, dodgy than it is. Like Fluxx, it was played a lot in Bugmans as we were drinking and chatting.
kinda like pass the pigs... Just a great drinking time waster.
Melifaxis - May 12, 2004 - 10:00 AM
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TomB wrote:
just wondering if it is too late too join? If there is a spare lineman miniature going i could convert it into anything needed.
I know im new to NAF but it would be cool to get involved. If there arent any spare minis, i might be able to get my hands on something to send in?
Nope, it's not too late. We seem to need some assistant coaches, cheerleaders, markers, and a thrower...I have some minis still and would be happy to send you one to use for conversion. Just PM me with your address, etc
majortusk - May 12, 2004 - 11:15 AM
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hmm, I could do the thrower.
Melifaxis - May 13, 2004 - 08:27 AM
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Squiggoth just let me know that he doesn't think he'll have time to participate so there's a Lineman 2 as well. PM me your addresses TomB and majortusk and let me know what you'd like to do.
TomB - May 13, 2004 - 11:58 AM
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Well i said i would do sqiggoths lineman, and if i can find some other spare models lying around i can do them
Melifaxis - May 13, 2004 - 12:48 PM
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Got your PM's guys and I'll package them up tonight
TomB - May 13, 2004 - 01:50 PM
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cool, i think i have the ability to do a cheerleader aswell. u just gotta wait and see. some hefty converting should keep me happy for a week or 2.
TomB - May 20, 2004 - 01:06 PM
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ok its been a week i have done one miniature (a player, no position really specified, cloud be blitzer, thrower or catcher) and i am going to do a cheerleader. Just wondering when the lineman i got coming is gonna arrive?
Also where do i post them to when i am done?
Melifaxis - May 21, 2004 - 10:03 AM
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Hmm...still not there? I'll send another one out.
AnthonyTBBF - May 21, 2004 - 10:21 AM
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Is there anything missing you want me to do. I see I'm signed up for "conversion" so I'll do anything that we need.
TomB - May 21, 2004 - 10:23 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Hmm...still not there? I'll send another one out.
how long does it usually take? maybes its worth waiting a little bit longer b4 you post another. It been around 2 weeks now? i dont relly post things international so im not completely sure.
Melifaxis - May 21, 2004 - 11:23 AM
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AnthonyTBBF wrote:
Is there anything missing you want me to do. I see I'm signed up for "conversion" so I'll do anything that we need.
Anything you'd like would be great Anthony. There are no cheerleaders yet, no head coach, and only one marker. I have some minis still that I can send out if you want to use one for conversion.
Heck, you could also carve some blocking dice out of wood...just about anything you can think of
Melifaxis - May 21, 2004 - 11:24 AM
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TomB wrote:
how long does it usually take? maybes its worth waiting a little bit longer b4 you post another. It been around 2 weeks now? i dont relly post things international so im not completely sure.
Usually only about a week to the UK. I guess we can give it a few more days.
AnthonyTBBF - May 21, 2004 - 11:28 AM
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No head coach yet? I'll do that one
Xtreme - May 21, 2004 - 11:39 AM
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So are you still 'Da Painta'? Or is it just El Presidente now?
Melifaxis - May 21, 2004 - 12:07 PM
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I'm betting he can still paint
Darkson - May 21, 2004 - 01:48 PM
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Nah, he's got staff for that now
AnthonyTBBF - May 21, 2004 - 02:58 PM
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Heh, Staff Painter... that would be nice.
TomB - May 21, 2004 - 08:35 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Usually only about a week to the UK. I guess we can give it a few more days.
ok well if it hasnt arrived on monday i will send you a PM
Old_Man_Monkey - May 22, 2004 - 07:47 AM
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"Painted Prez", maybe... of course, after not taking a team to the BB (after he hinted he had a secret project going), I'd like to see some new evidence that those painting skills are intact...
(just kidding... I really just want to see one more awesome team out there for me to shake my head at in wonder...)
Melifaxis - May 25, 2004 - 01:55 PM
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New package sent today TomB
TomB - May 25, 2004 - 05:21 PM
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cool, i have finsihed painting one model, and have converted a cheerleader (not painted yet). Would it be possible for you to PM me the return address so i know where to send these models? thanks
Melifaxis - May 25, 2004 - 10:17 PM
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Wow, going all out eh?
PM being sent
majortusk - May 26, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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I still havent gotten a thrower 
Melifaxis - May 27, 2004 - 07:55 AM
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Well, the good news is that figures have not been lost in the mail (except the 1st one sent to KLK). The bad news is that TomB and Majortusks packages were rotting on a shelf in my company's mail room.
Thus, the thrower left Marlboro, MA yesterday. My apologies for the confusion.
TomB - May 27, 2004 - 12:45 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Wow, going all out eh?
well i thought that i might as well do some other models to send as well as the lineman just to show off my skills. Also my team is complete and i dont want to do another just yet - so i need something to paint and convet in the mean time.
majortusk - May 30, 2004 - 12:37 PM
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the majors thrower has arrived. I will get this thing painted and out to you as soon as possible.
Thadrin - May 31, 2004 - 09:30 AM
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I started the highlighting today. It's looking about as good as my cack-handed brushjobs usually do. Too much skin...
Thadrin - May 31, 2004 - 11:30 PM
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I just need to number mine now...are all those numbers beside names the ones that are taken? in which case I claim 5.
TomB - Jun 01, 2004 - 09:27 AM
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got my lineman model in the post today. Going to do him after i finish the cheerleader (havent had much time lately but dont worry) not sure what im going to convert on him though.
Teambloodyhorns - Jun 01, 2004 - 01:25 PM
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should be mailing my coach in 2 weeks
Thadrin - Jun 03, 2004 - 12:33 AM
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Mine's done. question:should I varnish him? (I only have the GW stuff in a pot). Pic later if I remember.
joker_BBBL - Jun 03, 2004 - 03:22 AM
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anyone have post the pict on a website ?
Thadrin - Jun 03, 2004 - 12:33 PM
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Melifaxis - Jun 03, 2004 - 01:26 PM
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Very cool Thads, I would hold off on varnish so the winner can do them consistently with the same varnish? What do you guys think?
Colin - Jun 03, 2004 - 04:42 PM
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Why would you want to risk the paint rubbing off in transit???
Melifaxis - Jun 03, 2004 - 08:55 PM
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If packaged well, that is a non-issue
Grasshopper - Jun 04, 2004 - 07:36 AM
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well whatever you decide... make sure it's the Varnish pot and not paint.
Sturmjarl - Jun 04, 2004 - 03:01 PM
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The catcher looks GREAT!! Thadrin!!, but I hate to point out that I thought the bases were going to be painted with a "snow/ice" color scheme?
Thadrin - Jun 04, 2004 - 10:51 PM
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Says nowt about snow and ice on the first post...I can redo it if people want the snow/ice theme.
EvilGit - Jun 08, 2004 - 02:57 PM
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mine should be finished soon, had to redo the bloody thing but it shouldn't take long to finish now
Tackledummy - Jun 09, 2004 - 02:35 AM
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Mine's done, no digicam unfortunately but hopefully it will pop up on this board at some point or another. Base is done in snow with some grass poking through just to break up the monotony of the white. Hope this is no biggie for those who desperately wanted the bases looking identical.
Thadrin - Jun 09, 2004 - 04:25 AM
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You've done snow? right...I'll make mine a bit more wintery when I get home.
Hangus - Jun 09, 2004 - 07:31 AM
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how is everyone going to make the snow cos i have never done it before
EvilGit - Jun 09, 2004 - 08:40 AM
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no nore have i and now i'm a bit worried
mikeyc222 - Jun 09, 2004 - 08:57 AM
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here is a decent article on GWs website about how to make snowy bases.
http://us.games-workshop.com/games/warhammer/terrain/snowbases/default.htm
EvilGit - Jun 10, 2004 - 07:17 AM
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nice one. cheers mikeyc222
Reinkenstein - Jun 14, 2004 - 10:40 AM
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As for "snowy bases", similar to GW site:
1. Sanded base (let some "trickle over" the sides for extra effect)
2. Medium grey basecoat
3. (Here's where I differ) Thinned blue-ink wash
4. Dry-brush "off white"
5. High-light "bright white"
Looks good. (If I knew how to post a picture, I would.)
I personally use black ring around the base to make the "snow" stand out ... and I number the edge of the bases for easier player recognition.
Melifaxis - Jun 23, 2004 - 04:36 PM
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Tackledummy wrote:
Mine's done, no digicam unfortunately
but hopefully it will pop up on this board at some point or another. Base is done in snow with some grass poking through just to break up the monotony of the white. Hope this is no biggie for those who desperately wanted the bases looking identical.
He arrived safe and sound today
I'll snap some pics in the next day or two and get them online.
Tackledummy - Jun 23, 2004 - 10:55 PM
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Cheers Mel, you're a good 'un.
Thadrin - Jun 24, 2004 - 01:59 AM
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Mel - can you PM me your address so I can send you mine. Cheers.
Melifaxis - Jun 24, 2004 - 12:15 PM
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PM sent. Anyone else that needs it feel free to PM me
Djengis_kahn - Jun 26, 2004 - 08:16 AM
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My miniature is converted and painted >> He's ready !
he came out realy nice I think !
I'll try to snap some pics next week and put them on the net
how's it going with the "dugout boat" ??
and with other peoples entries?
BTW: when is the closing date. ?
Djengis
Melifaxis - Jun 27, 2004 - 09:34 AM
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Cool
The drakkar is a bit tougher than I thought it would be, but once we hit July there's no turning back. June was full of weddings, etc so it was tough to get a ton done.
TomB's contributions arrived safe and sound yesterday! I'll snap some pics and hopefully get them online today along with Tackledummy's.
Tackledummy - Jun 30, 2004 - 12:38 AM
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Heya Mel, hate to sound like a pushy little prick, but have you got those pics of the mini yet? I'd be real keen to see em and would appreciate it no end.
Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 30, 2004 - 04:22 AM
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Mel - I'm afraid finishing mine won't happen until I return from Europe... I'll either bring mine to the BB or send it when I finish, if that's OK...
Melifaxis - Jun 30, 2004 - 08:41 AM
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@Tackledummy, Sorry took the pics but need to download them. Will do my best to tackle it tonight.
@OMM, No sweat, the due date is the first day of the tourney so I was even considering having the winner drawn at the event. Have a blast on the European tour
Tackledummy - Jun 30, 2004 - 12:38 PM
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Will do my best to tackle it tonight.
*ack*
Hehe, cheers Mel, sincerely appreciate that.
KLK - Jun 30, 2004 - 07:43 PM
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well, my figure is ready... perhaps I post some pictures tomorrow...
Melifaxis - Jun 30, 2004 - 10:16 PM
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Since I ran out of MB on my other GeoCities page, I am adding the 2004 Legacy photos to my Beantown Brouhaha site for now.
Click The Beantown Brouhaha hyperlink in my signature below and then choose NAF 2004 Legacy Team from the list. Give me about 15 minutes for the download from the camera.
Melifaxis - Jun 30, 2004 - 10:43 PM
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Ok, they're up
Tackledummy - Jul 01, 2004 - 12:32 AM
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Wicked, thanks heaps Mel. Geez I miss him already 
Times like this I wish I hadn't varnished him, he comes across as a WWE wrestler
Thanks again Mel, awesome job.
Djengis_kahn - Jul 01, 2004 - 04:05 AM
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wow nice miniature tackledummy ~!!!
nice job !!
also the others look cool !!!
Djengis
Thadrin - Jul 02, 2004 - 01:24 PM
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Don't see em mel...
Melifaxis - Jul 02, 2004 - 01:52 PM
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http://www.geocities.com/melifaxis/
Are you looking at the right site? On the left there is a link to them under the hideous pink dice
Dave - Jul 03, 2004 - 11:12 PM
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ok guys .. finally started on zara.
I got a really badly casted fig from GW so I'm not yet happy but she is going to be fine in the end.
I added some red to the sceme, she's a star anyway so I figured I coud do that
I'll try to make a WIP pic somewhere today .. if someone can host that ..
Djengis_kahn - Jul 04, 2004 - 04:48 AM
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dave you can send the pic to me..
Djengis
Clan_Skaven - Jul 04, 2004 - 01:51 PM
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Who decides, what NAF members gets to paint the Legacy team? Can anyone paint a part of it, or do you have to be selected?
Melifaxis - Jul 04, 2004 - 04:16 PM
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Any NAF member may participate
Thadrin - Jul 05, 2004 - 01:27 AM
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Got it...
WTF is up with that norse Lineman´s FACE????
Tackledummy - Jul 05, 2004 - 11:53 PM
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Thanks for the compliment DK, awesome contribution TomB. Man I wish I could find the time to paint 3 minis.
Djengis_kahn - Jul 07, 2004 - 01:16 AM
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here you can find my contribution to the team:
www.freewebs.com/mongoltroll
go to> legacy teams
djengis
Melifaxis - Jul 07, 2004 - 08:13 AM
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Wow, cool conversion Djengis
Djengis_kahn - Jul 07, 2004 - 09:26 AM
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thanks Meli !
btw: can you send me your adress so I can put my mini in mail soon. ?
and the pic loads quite long and you have to scroll down a bit.
Djengis
Tackledummy - Jul 07, 2004 - 12:24 PM
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Nice job DK, especially like the checkerboard pattern on the shoulderpad, it looks real good man.
EvilGit - Jul 08, 2004 - 07:35 AM
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wow really nice djengis
Hangus - Jul 09, 2004 - 01:31 AM
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arrrgh better finish mine quickly did not realise deadline is looming
Clan_Skaven - Jul 09, 2004 - 05:07 AM
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I still have to start mine! Hopefully it comes in the mail this morning!
Grasshopper - Jul 09, 2004 - 10:44 AM
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Good Stuff DK.
Melifaxis - Jul 09, 2004 - 06:46 PM
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Thadrin's catcher arrived safe and sound today. I just took apicture and will download it and add it to the website by Monday
EDIT: Ok, it's online
Djengis_kahn - Jul 10, 2004 - 08:03 AM
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nice work on that cather thads !!
looks realy cool !
Sineater - Jul 12, 2004 - 07:53 AM
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Are we ready to finalize the pitch, cant wait to get it done and in the mail.
Melifaxis - Jul 12, 2004 - 09:34 AM
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I went back through the thread but didn't find what I was looking for...were you going to put all the names of the participants on the back and their flags?
If so, and I think that's what I recall we need to know who is definitely in. There's still the potential for folks to drop out, miss the deadline, etc...
Clan_Skaven - Jul 12, 2004 - 10:15 AM
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I just checked my mail box, still nothing, man Its gonna be hard to make the deadline if it does not arrive.
Melifaxis - Jul 12, 2004 - 10:56 AM
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I'm sure it will be there in a day or two. It only went out last Wednesday.
Sineater - Jul 12, 2004 - 11:39 PM
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yes we agreed that we would make a list of all the people under a flag of their country.
Tojurub - Jul 13, 2004 - 12:06 AM
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Just make sure you put me down under Germany, even though I'm currently listed in Minnesota...I still have to change that!
Tackledummy - Jul 13, 2004 - 12:26 AM
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Put me down under 'Where the hell is New Zealand?'
'Isn't that a city in Australia?'
Melifaxis - Jul 13, 2004 - 08:49 AM
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C'mon after LotR EVERYONE knows where New Zealand is
hoomin_erra - Jul 13, 2004 - 09:16 AM
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Over the mountains on the other side of Mordor?
Melifaxis - Jul 13, 2004 - 09:30 AM
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exactly!
Tackledummy - Jul 13, 2004 - 12:36 PM
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Heh, you'd be surprised. Even when they do know where New Zealand is some of them ask things like 'Oh yeah, that's the place with the big castles and the Hobbits right?'
Tojurub - Jul 13, 2004 - 11:41 PM
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what???? there are no hobbits in New Zealand?!?!?!?!...next thing you tell me there is no Santa Clause!
Colin - Jul 13, 2004 - 11:56 PM
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Tojurub wrote:
what???? there are no hobbits in New Zealand?!?!?!?!...next thing you tell me there is no Santa Clause!
Of course there's a Santa Clause, he lives in Canada.
Tackledummy - Jul 14, 2004 - 10:03 PM
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I'm sure I played hockey with that guy once.
Clan_Skaven - Jul 14, 2004 - 10:36 PM
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Tackledummy wrote:
I'm sure I played hockey with that guy once.
Thank God, you said "Hockey" & not "Ice Hockey" like Americans do, and whats with Americans & calling Tuna, "Tunafish"?
Down in the States do you all have other kinds of Tuna? Like Tuna-Shark? or Tuna-Dog?
Tojurub - Jul 14, 2004 - 11:55 PM
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It might come as a shock to you (and other Canadians), but there is in deed another kind of hockey, which is not played on ice, but on grass! Amazing, isn't it?
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 12:09 AM
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Ya, its called Field Hockey, but Hockey played on ice is still just called Hockey.
Dave - Jul 15, 2004 - 12:34 AM
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@tojorub
settled mate ??
hoomin_erra - Jul 15, 2004 - 01:38 AM
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No, hockey played on grass is called "hockey". Hockey played on ice is called "Ice hockey". Once again, the colonists over in the new world have it all wrong!!!
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 03:03 AM
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hoomin_erra wrote:
No, hockey played on grass is called "hockey". Hockey played on ice is called "Ice hockey". Once again, the colonists over in the new world have it all wrong!!!
Umm, I'm afraid not... I have a Dictionary here in front of me I'll quote it for you....
Quote:
hockey n.1. A game played on ice, in which players, wearing skates and wielding sticks, try to drive a disk (puck) into the opponent's goal. 2. A similar game played on a field (field hockey), in which a small ball is used instead of a puck.
Colonist or not, your going to tell a Canadian what is & is not Hockey?
Phhhfffttt, please, give me a break...
Tojurub - Jul 15, 2004 - 04:57 AM
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Dave wrote:
@tojorub
settled mate ??
Somewhat....aparently there is a strike on the East Coast of the States, which keeps my container off a ship. 
So, my parents are hosting my wife and kids while I'm living in an almost empty apartment.
At least that gives me time to paint the catcher for the NAF 2004 team (to get back to the original topic of this thread).
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 05:53 AM
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I'm hoping mine comes in the mail today, so I can paint it. Next year I'll make sure I don't wait till the last minute, to ask to be apart of the Legacy Team!
slup - Jul 15, 2004 - 05:58 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:
hoomin_erra wrote:
No, hockey played on grass is called "hockey". Hockey played on ice is called "Ice hockey". Once again, the colonists over in the new world have it all wrong!!!
Umm, I'm afraid not... I have a Dictionary here in front of me I'll quote it for you....
Quote:
hockey n.1. A game played on ice, in which players, wearing skates and wielding sticks, try to drive a disk (puck) into the opponent's goal. 2. A similar game played on a field (field hockey), in which a small ball is used instead of a puck.
Colonist or not, your going to tell a Canadian what is & is not Hockey?
Phhhfffttt, please, give me a break...
Well you also have a game in North America called Football in which you run with the ball in your hands and throw it to each other
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 06:30 AM
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True, true, but the "Football" you refer to is "Canadian Football" or as in the States "American Football" I'll be the first to admit that the true meaning of the word "Football" is a game where a round ball is kicked, not thrown.
Why we North Americans have to be different from the rest of the world & call "Football" , "Soccer" is beyond me.
And its just for the record it's, Tuna..... Not Tunafish!
hoomin_erra - Jul 15, 2004 - 06:56 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:
Umm, I'm afraid not... I have a Dictionary here in front of me I'll quote it for you....
Colonist or not, your going to tell a Canadian what is & is not Hockey?
Phhhfffttt, please, give me a break...
hockey [Show phonetics]
noun [U]
1 UK a game played on a sports field between two teams of eleven players who each have a curved stick with which they try to put a small hard ball into the other team's goal
Colonist or not. The true version of hockey was invented long before your moose infested tundra even became a colony!!!
And just for the record, it's Flat not apartment, lift not elevator, petrol not gasoline, and MDF not particle board!!
Melifaxis - Jul 15, 2004 - 07:48 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:
Tackledummy wrote:
I'm sure I played hockey with that guy once.
Thank God, you said "Hockey" & not "Ice Hockey" like Americans do, and whats with Americans & calling Tuna, "Tunafish"?
Down in the States do you all have other kinds of Tuna? Like Tuna-Shark? or Tuna-Dog?
Not in New England...it's just hockey or puck
mikeyc222 - Jul 15, 2004 - 09:21 AM
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hoomin_erra wrote:
Clan-Skaven wrote:
Umm, I'm afraid not... I have a Dictionary here in front of me I'll quote it for you....
Colonist or not, your going to tell a Canadian what is & is not Hockey?
Phhhfffttt, please, give me a break...
hockey [Show phonetics]
noun [U]
1 UK a game played on a sports field between two teams of eleven players who each have a curved stick with which they try to put a small hard ball into the other team's goal
Colonist or not. The true version of hockey was invented long before your moose infested tundra even became a colony!!!
And just for the record, it's Flat not apartment, lift not elevator, petrol not gasoline, and MDF not particle board!!
just let the cannuck have his way. i mean seriously, it's not like canada is good at any other sport!
Melifaxis - Jul 15, 2004 - 09:29 AM
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What about ballet?
*dodge*
hoomin_erra - Jul 15, 2004 - 09:34 AM
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Yeah, yer right mel, i've heard about these lumberjacks and their facination with womens clothing!!!
Thadrin - Jul 15, 2004 - 09:35 AM
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Actually, Field Hockey played on ice is called Bandy.
Its only really played in Sweden, Russia, Finland, Norway and a couple of places that were once Russia. Good fun to watch, if you can follow the ball.
Hockey will always mean field hockey to me, though if a Swede refers to Hockey I know it means Ice Hockey. Field hockey is called Land Hockey here.
then there's floorball or Innebandy http://www.innebandy.se/t3.asp?p=34182 - which is like Icehockey minus the ice and with a ball.
hoomin_erra - Jul 15, 2004 - 09:44 AM
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What do you know, yer swedish
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 03:45 PM
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hoomin_erra wrote:
And just for the record, it's Flat not apartment, lift not elevator, petrol not gasoline, and MDF not particle board!!
Very true, you have made some good points, here, but you forgot one...I guess we Canadians are wrong as well when we call a sheep a sheep. You guys call a sheep "A great date?" don't you?
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 03:51 PM
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mikeyc222 wrote:
just let the cannuck have his way. i mean seriously, it's not like canada is good at any other sport!
Well at least here in Canada we do not need a red glowing light to see a BLACK puck on a surface of WHITE ice!
Melifaxis - Jul 15, 2004 - 06:30 PM
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We don't need it here either! Bettman is just a knob.
Clan_Skaven - Jul 15, 2004 - 06:52 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
We don't need it here either! Bettman is just a knob.
Cheers! to that, I'll agree with you there!
Anyway back to the orriginal topic, It arrived today, hopefully I'll have it painted by the end of the Weekend or early next week. Then I'll send it Express mail to you. Also what is the exact colour scheam?
"Bolt Gun Metal, Skull White, & Some kind of Blue"?
hoomin_erra - Jul 16, 2004 - 01:52 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:
You guys call a sheep "A great date?" don't you?
Nope, that's the welsh, and certain parts of scotland. In england we call them "mobile lamb chops"
Clan_Skaven - Jul 16, 2004 - 01:58 AM
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Well, I'm glad you at least have a good sense of humour. I was a wee bit concerned if you were going to get Pissy over the Sheep comment.
So hoomin_erra, you coming over the pond to any Touneys this year? GenCon, the SPIKE, or the Death-Bowl?
Tackledummy - Jul 16, 2004 - 05:08 AM
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Don't forget aluminium not aluminum...
Thadrin - Jul 16, 2004 - 09:57 AM
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hoomin_erra wrote:
What do you know, yer swedish
No I'm not. I just live here. It's all the statuesque blondes...
Darkson - Jul 16, 2004 - 01:41 PM
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I'd hardly call you statuesque!
Melifaxis - Jul 17, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Ok, back on topic...KLK your mini arrived safe and sound just now. I'll get a picture online by Monday.
Thadrin - Jul 19, 2004 - 11:38 AM
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Darkson wrote:
I'd hardly call you statuesque!
Neither would I ...but you should meet my missus...
Melifaxis - Jul 20, 2004 - 12:32 PM
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Sturmjarl's team wizard arrived last night. Pic will be online by end of week
Tojurub - Jul 21, 2004 - 12:15 AM
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My figure just needs the clear coat and a padded envelope to ship. Mel, can you PM me the shipping address, please?
Melifaxis - Jul 22, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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Pm sent
Team Bloodyhorns has to drop out due to moving. He posted on TBB about the 2004 team, but I'm sure he meant this team.
Thadrin - Jul 23, 2004 - 07:05 AM
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one week to go...but only a very small fraction of the minis in.
Is this team going to be yet ANOTHER that isn't done fully or on time?
Djengis_kahn - Jul 23, 2004 - 07:31 AM
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is my miniature arrived??
it should be I think..
Djengis
Melifaxis - Jul 23, 2004 - 08:08 AM
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Not yet Djengis, but I will post the day it arrives! It looks like we may have to extend the deadline with so few back in. I do know that a few will be hand delivered at The Beantown Brouhaha.
Hangus - Jul 25, 2004 - 09:32 AM
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mine should be in the post monday if not tuesday at the latest
Djengis_kahn - Jul 25, 2004 - 11:54 AM
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mine stil not in...
I didn't put "by air" on it or something like that... ( par avignon..???!??!?!)
Forgot !
mm this means it'll go by ship not??
mm it's underway for 15 days now..
so that still can take a while ..
sory !
Djengis :8
mikeyc222 - Jul 26, 2004 - 01:11 PM
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man, i know the timing is lowsy but i think i'm going to have to back out.
i kept thinking that i would still be able to get it done but the new 2nd job is simply killing me. it was supposed to be about 20 hours a week since i already work 40 at my other job but this one is turning out to be almost 40 also.
i have the mini partially done, i just can't seem to get any time or quite honestly, any motivation to finish it. i just live in a constant state of exhaustion. 
sorry guys
Tojurub - Jul 26, 2004 - 11:23 PM
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Ok...my blitzer is on its way to the States....Mel, look out for him in your mailbox sometime next week
Melifaxis - Jul 27, 2004 - 07:58 AM
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Sorry to hear that mikeyc222, but an 80 hour work week is HELL. I've been there too! Hopefully it won't be that way for too much longer for you
Sounds good Torjorub
My apologies to Sturmjarl for not getting his pic online yet...
Hangus - Jul 28, 2004 - 03:04 AM
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mine was put in the post yesterday
Melifaxis - Jul 28, 2004 - 08:04 AM
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Excellent
No new mail yesterday...
Melifaxis - Jul 30, 2004 - 05:03 PM
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2 more arrived today! Hangus' and Torjorub's minis are here safe and sound and look great! I just took pictures of them and Sturmjarl's. They will be online by Monday.
Melifaxis - Jul 31, 2004 - 10:21 PM
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Djengis' arrived today!
They're all on display at the tournament this weekend as well
Clan_Skaven - Aug 01, 2004 - 06:36 AM
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Count me out of the draw as well, I'll still get it to you (painted) but it will be late (already is late) . Working a Salary job is not the greatest. Been very busy as of late. If the set gets mailed off before i finnish, I'll mail to you anyway Mel with some extra cash (shipping costs) so you can send it to the winner. Sorry, next year I'll get in quicker than 2-3 weeks before the deadline.
Sorry again.
Melifaxis - Aug 02, 2004 - 02:30 AM
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Actually, the deadline has come and gone but we don't have enough players to even field a team yet so we'll need to extend it. I think August 31st is about as far as we should push it though. Any minis in before then will still be in the draw.
I'll start PMing those who haven't sent one in yet to let them know of the new deadline and remind them that the first one has come and gone.
Working salaried jobs can certainly be a pain the a$$... I can definitely empathize with you on that front.
Xtreme - Aug 02, 2004 - 03:20 AM
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Just noticed my name on the participants list. Don't remember signing up. I didn't really want to do a norse model. 
But to help out the cause I can kick a lineman out and have it to you by the end of the month. So I guess leave me on the list but for a lineman not a conversion.
Tojurub - Aug 02, 2004 - 07:04 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
2 more arrived today! Hangus' and Torjorub's minis are here safe and sound and look great! I just took pictures of them and Sturmjarl's. They will be online by Monday.
Now hangus and I should gain the accurate skill since both of us exactly met the (original) deadline
....just wondering how many tries it takes for Mel to get my nickname typed correctly
Hangus - Aug 02, 2004 - 07:15 AM
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[quote="Tojurub"] Melifaxis wrote:
Now hangus and I should gain the accurate skill since both of us exactly met the (original) deadline
lol its only taken me a year of playing to get my first skill now if can just get this MVP award i'll be laughing
Melifaxis - Aug 02, 2004 - 08:05 AM
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Tojurub wrote:
....just wondering how many tries it takes for Mel to get my nickname typed correctly
Sorry Tojurub
KLK - Aug 02, 2004 - 01:54 PM
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when you will choose the winner?
Tojurub - Aug 04, 2004 - 03:17 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Tojurub wrote:
....just wondering how many tries it takes for Mel to get my nickname typed correctly
Sorry Tojurub
no problem, it was just funny to see that it was spelled in so many different ways.
But the more important question: Any estimate on when you will show the latest arrivals on the webpage?
Melifaxis - Aug 04, 2004 - 10:54 AM
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I downloadeed the pics as I left the house this morning, so tonight I should be able to update the site
Melifaxis - Aug 04, 2004 - 04:30 PM
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Ok, they are online and Jaylazer's figure came in today's mail
McDeth - Aug 05, 2004 - 08:26 AM
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Mine should be on your doorstep in the next few days ;-0
Melifaxis - Aug 09, 2004 - 02:41 PM
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Just got here McDeth
Looks even better in person!
howlinggriffon - Aug 10, 2004 - 11:49 AM
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Sorry I'm running late on this guys Have been out of the Blood Bowl scene since PK&Q tourney but I've been off work with a bad back recently so I've got some spare time to crack on with the NAF team model now.
The models is undercoated and I've started putting basecoats on the main areas of colour - should have him done in a couple of days or so...
I'm happy to send him even if I miss the draw - others have put more effort into than I have!
Melifaxis - Aug 10, 2004 - 12:23 PM
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We have 10 in so far, so don't worry about being late. We're working with a new deadline of 08/31/2004 and I'm confident we'll be able to make the draw then with you included.
Melifaxis - Aug 11, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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Pics of Jaylazer and McDeth's minis are online.
Old_Man_Monkey - Aug 11, 2004 - 05:38 AM
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Jay's and McD's pics aren't coming up for me...
Melifaxis - Aug 11, 2004 - 05:55 AM
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That's because the bozo typing the HTML last night used JPG instead of jpg
Thanks for letting me know
All fixed
Tojurub - Aug 12, 2004 - 07:11 AM
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Did the lineman cut off his left leg or is it just an illusion due to the angle the picture was taken?
Melifaxis - Aug 12, 2004 - 08:37 AM
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If you look closely you can see his boot
Just the angle
Tojurub - Aug 13, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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But the idea of a cut-off leg of a chainsaw weilding lunatic is not bad...maybe I do that for my own team
kwailung - Aug 13, 2004 - 01:52 AM
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Melifaxis, I know I'm coming in on this WAAAAY late, but with the deadline extension I think even I could get one painted for the team. Can I get a quick recap of any positions/players/staff still needed?
howlinggriffon - Aug 16, 2004 - 02:04 AM
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My model's painted now so I'm going to get it packaged up and sent out this week. Mel - can you send me a PM or an email with your address?
Thanks
Melifaxis - Aug 16, 2004 - 09:20 AM
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kwailung wrote:
Melifaxis, I know I'm coming in on this WAAAAY late, but with the deadline extension I think even I could get one painted for the team. Can I get a quick recap of any positions/players/staff still needed?
Check out the first post...I know our apoth painter dropped out...I can still send you a standard BB mini if you PM me your address, but that could make timing very tight...
All are welcome to participate, just read the entire first post so you know what you are getting yourself into
@howlinggriffon: PM sent
TomB - Aug 18, 2004 - 08:58 AM
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i think everyones entries so far have been cool. I havent had much internet access in the last 6 weeks due to me living in my girlfriends parents house - and time constraints with me having a lot of freelance sculpting work.
Djengis Khans blitzer is ace
i am dissapointed that i have been only one so far to send in a model with (.)(.)
Thadrin - Aug 23, 2004 - 09:30 AM
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I'm going to be away for the week.
Anyone want to give me odds that we'll have something approaching a team by the time the SECOND deadline has passed?
No...didn't think so
Tackledummy - Aug 24, 2004 - 12:10 AM
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Odds that we 'WILL' have a team? Sure, I'll give you odds of 100 to 1.
Tojurub - Aug 24, 2004 - 04:02 AM
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Did anybody (Mel?) actually send a PM to the guys who are on the list, but have not even responded to any deadlines? Just wondering what the hold-off is?
Tackledummy - Aug 28, 2004 - 12:37 AM
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Heya Mel, with the end of the month coming up in a few days I was wondering where we're at in terms of numbers of miniatures.
Melifaxis - Aug 28, 2004 - 09:13 AM
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Unfortunately, all the ones that are in are on the web...
I'll send out a new batch of PM's to see what's up...
TomB - Aug 28, 2004 - 09:15 AM
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its a shame because its a dissapointment to those like me who put the effort in to see that many others havent
Melifaxis - Aug 30, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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Ok, a form PM has been sent:
Melifaxis wrote:
Hi,
This is a form PM to those who expressed interest in the 2004 NAF Legacy Team (Norse).
I just want to check with each of you because the 2nd deadline for the Legacy Team is tomorrow (it was initially July 31st and we moved it out 1 month). Please post an update in the thread, even if it's "Sorry can't do it".
I will consider pushing the deadline out again in the interests of getting the winner a prize worthy of the NAF, but I'm thinking that those who got them in on time should get their name in the draw twice...nothing definite, but it seems they deserve something.
Thanks,
Rob
Hopefully we'll start getting some responses. If I sent you a PM and you've already given me an update, my apologies...just send me a PM back calling me Really Stupid or a Bonehead
Melifaxis - Aug 30, 2004 - 10:44 AM
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Abandon Ship!!!
Ok, becuase it is taking way too long and becuase we are on the short side miniature wise, Grasshopper and I are going to abandon the longship idea in favor of putting some more players on the pitch.
Positions TBD and painting will commence tonight!
dwarfcoach - Aug 30, 2004 - 05:32 PM
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Ok (deep breath):
I messed up.
It's that simple. I moved back to London after 4 years living in the Midlands (a dark and miserable part of the uk where nothing much happens ). This happened just over 6 weeks ago. I still have about 6 boxes of 'stuff' in my parents shed whilst I try and get myself organised, find a job etc. End result?
I can't find the Norse lineman that I was sent and if (when ) I do find it it will not be ready for the comp .
All I can do is offer my apologies for this tardy behaviour and by way of explanation state that if I had known sooner that I would be moving I would not have accepted the challenge of a legacy team.
All I can say is that I will definately get him done (honest, I promise) and I would ask that the draw be made (not including myself) with my figure 'owing' and I will post on the figure when it is done.
Sorry guys.
McDeth - Aug 31, 2004 - 02:23 AM
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C'mon guys 8 months to paint one mini
Djengis_kahn - Aug 31, 2004 - 02:58 AM
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it's a good idea to abandon the ship, then we get the roster more filledbecause we don't have a ful roster now.
it's a pitty so many people can't paint a mini when they say they'll do. there's time enough ! just start in time !!
snew - Aug 31, 2004 - 07:51 AM
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Is the list on pg 1 still valid? Are that many minis still outstanding?
Melifaxis - Aug 31, 2004 - 08:28 AM
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It was close to accurate (I updated it yesterday at 5pm EST). I just updated the list again now though. We have a few in the mail, but two of them may elude us. Torpor's was sent about one month ago! International mail has been a bit slow lately, at least in my experience. Has anyone else experienced the same?
Kwailung's package arrived yesterday, but had been taped up. Inside were two items that he didn't even send (an AOL Latino disc and a tiny pad of paper that said The Lasers and had an image of a gun)! How random is that?!?! He's going to his post office today to see if maybe they found it. I'm going to do a Google search to see if I can find a band or something called The Lasers and see if maybe they got the wrong stuff in the mail...a slim shot at best...
snew - Aug 31, 2004 - 08:53 AM
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Intl mail has been very quick for me. That package I sent to New Zealand hasn't arrived yet though. I always send my packages airmail since they're so light but, occasionally, they get on a boat instead anyway. I don't know why.
kwailung - Aug 31, 2004 - 10:51 AM
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Well, as expected, there was nothing the post office could (or would) do. It seemed to boggle the postmaster's mind that I was there not to demand that he find and return my item but simply to alert him that there was a problem somewhere between Georgia and Massachusetts that had manifested itself last weekend. Hurmmmm.
Even though my figure won't make the team, since he's now living life on the lam on the Eastern Seaboard somewhere, anyone who wants to see what it looked like can check him out at CMON.
http://www.coolminiornot.com/65152
Melifaxis - Aug 31, 2004 - 11:36 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, your name should still be in the draw. You put in the effort. I am boggled that the post office could do this.
~Rob
howlinggriffon - Aug 31, 2004 - 12:00 PM
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My Lineman No. 2 is in the mail as of today.
I'd be interested to know when you get him as the last time I sent a parcel to the USA it went via Sweden...
Melifaxis - Aug 31, 2004 - 12:13 PM
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I'll post the day he arrives.
kwailung - Aug 31, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
As far as I'm concerned, your name should still be in the draw. You put in the effort.
~Rob
Thanks, I appreciate it.
And, well, I guess I'd say I'm boggled someone at the post office could do this. Whoever pulled this bizarre switcheroo, I hope they're enjoying themselves.
What's really weird is that, despite the contents being pilfered and replaced and the box re-sealed, it still got delivered in the appropriate time frame. That's really weird.
Christopher
Torpor - Aug 31, 2004 - 03:21 PM
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I am not thrilled that my contribution has gone a bit wayward. The Royal Mail released a report today about how they have done with their performance targets. They have met none of their goals in 15 areas in the timeframe since March, so I shouldn't be too surprised all in all. However it is disappointing. I went into my local GW today and ordered a Norse booster. I hope that the booster will be in by the end of the week and can get something in for the team by the following week if the post is accomodating enough. If my first package surfaces, the team will get a bonus figure in effect. Put me in the draw or not as you see fit, but there will be something from me for the team shortly. My apologies on behalf of Royal Mail, but am doing what I can.
-Torpor
Grasshopper - Aug 31, 2004 - 07:21 PM
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Hell, I didn't even have overseas mail, when I sent something to Torg it was well over a week from when they told me it would be...
And opportunity allowing, after teh weddings bachelor parties and birth of my lil' ratling, (and your elves Mel - soon to be Jedi Supreme) I'll try kicking out the ship for the winner.
EvilGit - Sep 01, 2004 - 07:56 AM
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sorry for me being so slack. mine's all done just forgot to post it off. it'll be in the post for tonight, hopefully with you inside a week or so mel.
TomB - Sep 05, 2004 - 03:41 PM
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how long is it now till this thing ends? the next one is gonna be started!
howlinggriffon - Sep 05, 2004 - 06:03 PM
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howlinggriffon wrote:
My Lineman No. 2 is in the mail as of today.
I'd be interested to know when you get him as the last time I sent a parcel to the USA it went via Sweden...
Got a PM from Mel saying he got the Lineman this morning
Can't wait to see the picture on Mel's website as I didn't get a chance to take a snap myself.
Hope you all like him
Grasshopper - Sep 05, 2004 - 08:40 PM
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Heads up, Mel. I took #'s 4 & 77 for my lineman & blitzer, catcher, whatever... since they seemed open. The Linemarker/counter don't need no numbah.
Tojurub - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:51 AM
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Just out of curiosity: what is the deadline now and what is the verdict on the drawing?
I think the people who sent there mini in on before the first dead line should have 3 entries, the people who made it to the second deadline will have 2 entries and the guys who sent it in before the actual dead line will get one ticket in the draw.
howlinggriffon - Sep 07, 2004 - 01:33 AM
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That sounds fair...
More chance for the people that met their promises to win the team that way.
EvilGit - Sep 07, 2004 - 06:50 AM
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mel, has my lino made it there yet? i do hope so.
howlinggriffon - Sep 07, 2004 - 07:46 AM
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Y'know...
If you've not heard from a few of the people, maybe I could paint another? I've still got a spare Thrudd that I could paint up and send in...
Maybe it'd make up for me being tardy with the first?
Melifaxis - Sep 07, 2004 - 08:24 AM
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Tojurub wrote:
Just out of curiosity: what is the deadline now and what is the verdict on the drawing?
I think the people who sent there mini in on before the first dead line should have 3 entries, the people who made it to the second deadline will have 2 entries and the guys who sent it in before the actual dead line will get one ticket in the draw.
I think this seems like the way to go. So unless I hear a big protest the above is what we'll do.
Let's set a final date of 09/30/2004. The draw will be made that night after I get home and check the mail (I am in the EST time zone)
I hate to push the deadline again, but there's not even 1 thrower back in yet and I think a NAF Legacy team should be a legendary prize not a half of a team. I will not push it past this date though. Those who have sent figs in already can certainly speak up and veto this idea.
Also, I wanted to say thanks for being patient guys, especially those of you that mailed them in July.
What do folks think of allowing multiple contributions to get multiple draws? Bad idea? Good idea?
One way to do it that may be fair is to cap the draws by deadline:
Met Original Deadline = Max of 4 draws
Met Second Deadline = Max of 3 draws
Met Final Deadline = Max of 2 draws
Thus TomB who sent 3 minis by the original deadline would get 4 draws as would anyone who met the original deadline and sends in one more....likewise joebloggs who reads this for the first time today, decides to paint like a mad man this week and mail them in could get up to 2 draws with 2 figures.
I think there needs to be some kind of limit to encourage painting at a best effort level. Thoughts?
kwailung - Sep 07, 2004 - 09:59 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Let's set a final date of 09/30/2004. The draw will be made that night after I get home and check the mail (I am in the EST time zone)
....
One way to do it that may be fair is to cap the draws by deadline:
Met Original Deadline = Max of 4 draws
Met Second Deadline = Max of 3 draws
Met Final Deadline = Max of 2 draws
....
I think there needs to be some kind of limit to encourage painting at a best effort level. Thoughts?
I concur. I think this proposal sounds great. And knowing now that you're still without a thrower, I can paint one up and hope the figure actually makes it to you this time!
So if I'm reading this correctly, submitting another fig would get me three draws, right, since I (sorta) met the second deadline?
Djengis_kahn - Sep 07, 2004 - 10:01 AM
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I hate the idea of sending more models in for more draws !
it's not all about winning the team it's just like painting a nice model for the naf team, (which is won by one lucky bastard.. ) why not make every one just one draw.. I think everyone did a good job on the team so I think every one did his/her best. this deserves a rightfull chance to winn the team.
thats my words, please all say what you think of it.
BTW: this is not a veto on mel's idea, just my thoughts, and if everyone think his ideas are good, then I will also agree with it.
Djengis Khan
howlinggriffon - Sep 07, 2004 - 10:22 AM
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Djengis_kahn wrote:
I think everyone did a good job on the team so I think every one did his/her best. this deserves a rightfull chance to winn the team.
That's just the point - not everyone has done their best on the team. I missed the first cut-off completely and was a few days late on the second - why would I deserve the same chance of winning the team as Tackledummy whose model was in Mel's clammy little mitts back in July?
The guys who met the original targets deserve more of a chance of winning the team than those, like me, who for some reason or another couldn't pull their fingers out.
I just feel bad that after all the promises, a lot of people still aren't going to do the models they said they will - I'd like to help out by submitting another figure to the team to get it done once and for all.
Did you see the 2003 team in Fanatic Mag No. 2? It really was a great advert for NAF as it showed all of the international coaches pulling together. That's just not happened this year. I'm not sure if it's because some are disillusioned by the Vault rules that confused the hell out of everyone (I stopped playing just after that as I couldn't keep up with the changes...) but there's definitely been a drop in interest in the project overall.
Old_Man_Monkey - Sep 07, 2004 - 11:03 AM
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OK, I'm finishing my figure up this week and will be sending it back to Mel by the weekend (now that I've got power again...!
But here's my one post on how the distribution should go - there should be no added draws because it wasn't made clear before the new deadline was established... backtracking after the fact is not a good precedent to my mind...
So there's no thinking that my opinion is selfish, I'm taking myself out of the running for the team... I'm late and I'd much rather see one of you guys have the teams anyway... But it's precisely these questions and issues that need to be stated before changes are made, rather than invented, voted upon, and argued about afterwards...
That's all I'll say on that... and I look forward to seeing the entire team when it's completed...
-OMM
Thadrin - Sep 07, 2004 - 11:05 AM
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Have to say I'm very dissappointed in the people who have not contributed when they said they would. One damn figure, painted to a good standard for use rather than display shouldn't take more than a couple of evenings.
In the time since this started I've painted a whole Norse team...and a bunch of Warmachine stuff - and that's despite my procrastination.
That said, I'd rather have a full team, so the proposal seems fine to me.
jaylazer - Sep 07, 2004 - 11:44 AM
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I like the idea of pushing the deadline to the end of this month so that a more complete team can be assembled.
As for number of draws, I think I agree with Djengis_kahn to a point. It's not about winning the team. It's more about contributing to the team. If I win it, that will be great. I don't have a painted Norse team. But if I don't win, that'll be great too because I'm still a part of it.
I would rather there was one drawing per entry. So the guy who put 3 in would get 3 draws. But those who were early would still get one.
I guess I don't look at this a contest, but more as a community project where someone gets to keep the finished product.
Grasshopper - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:39 PM
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I'm with OMM (and welcome back from the swamp age, hope you weathered the storm OK)... I have yet to see a legacy team be completely turned in on it's first or second deadlines. So if you made it in early, great. Late shame on you. If I wanted to I could have slapped together a model and done it in a night and gotten it in last year... but I shouldn't get extra draws for it. If you have extra figs in, then I guess that could be a legitimate added draw, because of the effort. I've got 3 myself now that the team seemed short *MEL why didn't you tell me to do a thrower?!! Doldt!!*, but I'm only expecting 1 draw. We've had multiple contributions before, and still only 1 draw. Note I used CONTRIBUTON not entry. We aren't selling tix at 1 mini a pop. We should be doing this to be part of something cool and bigger than our selves... not just to win. This is a hobby 1st and foremost, Life gets in the way sometimes, plain and simple. Folks are contributing what they can with to the best of their efforts. Now that there's a 3rd deadline I say if there are people who don't pony up by 9/30, then they're out, done, that's it. And it is our duty to remind them on a daily basis what slackers they are.
Here's a nickel, gimme back 3 pennies.
Torpor - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:43 PM
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I agree with most of what Djengis_Khan and jaylazer have said. I too viewed it as something to contribute to, rather than something to win. The multiple draws for multiple contributions, I am not overly keen on. If that were in place for the vampire team, I would have had a fair number of chances from the re-roll markers. As for extra draws for meeting a particular deadline, am not too keen on that either as it doesn't exactly encourage people to finish what they have and it doesn't take into account postal problems. That being said, I will send in a replacement player (a thrower) in addition the possibility of Mr. Postman showing up with the original lineman and would like my name withdrawn from whatever lottery is decided in the end for the team.
-Torpor
Grasshopper - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:45 PM
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Oh yeah, and that being all said... here's my boys. WARNING the pics may be HUGE
And I think I may have even found us a sponsor. Lord knows the uniforms match.
Sorry I hadn't posted them sooner.
Grasshopper - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Torpor wrote:
... and would like my name withdrawn from whatever lottery is decided in the end for the team.
-Torpor
I call bulls#it!!! Your name should stay in Torp. I've seen the effort you put into your work and you deserve it just as much, if not more than anyone else.
I'm keeping your name in!
KLK - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:52 PM
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if you want my opinion...
I think taht we have to give the team as a prize... but only if you already send your painted figure...
I agree, is more important the contribution... but also the team! I have a norse team already, but is VERY difficult to me find new figures (I'm from Colombia, and we don't have GW or figures stores here).
I paint my figure, I send it, and I really want to win the whole team. they will find a good place to live in.
I think we should wait at least 16 figures, and then, the prize... between the NAF members who send the figures.
I hope that in the future, we still have legacy teams...
Melifaxis - Sep 07, 2004 - 12:54 PM
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I wont remove names from the draw if things are lost in the mail.
It just ain't right.
Melifaxis - Sep 07, 2004 - 01:16 PM
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kwailung wrote:
So if I'm reading this correctly, submitting another fig would get me three draws, right, since I (sorta) met the second deadline?
We're talking about what to do, but nothing is cast in stone yet. You did meet the second deadline and that means you are in the draw whichever shape it takes.
Melifaxis - Sep 07, 2004 - 01:17 PM
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Grasshopper wrote:
Oh yeah, and that being all said... here's my boys. WARNING the pics may be HUGE
Great job as usual
howlinggriffon - Sep 07, 2004 - 01:57 PM
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Grasshopper - what make of model are they? They look great too 
I really like the standard bearer...
Grasshopper - Sep 07, 2004 - 02:07 PM
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They're not GW *GASP* ! ! !
They're all REAPERs. The Linejudge/standard is Viking Model #02699 : Wiglaf, Viking Standard Bearer
and the other 2 are Barbarians.
02414 : Ragnor, Barbarian
02616 : Traeg, Barbarian
Thanks, they were fun... my first attempt with layering.
dwarfcoach - Sep 07, 2004 - 03:56 PM
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Grasshopper wrote:
Sorry I hadn't posted them sooner.
Right, I know now what I must do!
Grasshopper, how did you make those bases? I have had a converted Heresy 'Football Boris' half done for ages and as I can't find my lineman model I was sent then I will finish him off, try to base him like yours and post it off A.S.A.P!
I lost my original model in my recent move back to London but I will be damned if I don't make a last ditch effort to pitch in with the NAF lads....
kwailung - Sep 07, 2004 - 07:34 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
We're talking about what to do, but nothing is cast in stone yet. You did meet the second deadline and that means you are in the draw whichever shape it takes.
No, I understand that. I just wanted confirmation that I restated the proposal correctly.
Grasshopper - Sep 07, 2004 - 09:30 PM
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dwarfcoach wrote:
Grasshopper wrote:
Sorry I hadn't posted them sooner.
Right, I know now what I must do!
Grasshopper, how did you make those bases? I have had a converted Heresy 'Football Boris' half done for ages and as I can't find my lineman model I was sent then I will finish him off, try to base him like yours and post it off A.S.A.P!
I lost my original model in my recent move back to London but I will be damned if I don't make a last ditch effort to pitch in with the NAF lads....
Well teh "stiffarm" is all greenstuff on a reg. round slotta. The other 2 already had a small, textured base, so I added gs to make the size right on top of a slotta base, and then poked with a sculpting tool to make it match.
Base paint...
Some fortress grey, some ice blue, and white for highlights. That's it.
Tojurub - Sep 08, 2004 - 12:13 AM
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To come back to the lottery part/low participation:
I agree and disagree to OMM statement, that these things had to be discussed and agreed on at the start of the project. If we would have known that only less than 25%(!!!!) off all participants are able to paint one miniature within 8 months (second deadline!!!!!), then we might have been able to think about discussing that af the beginning. From what I've seen of last years project, was that there were also a few people who have missed the deadline, but it was to a much lesser extend. WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A TEAM TO FIELD 11 PLAYERS at this point.
I know that some people have their private life, which doesn't always allows then to keep up with their plans, but me e.g. I was basically moving for 2 months from the US to Germany, but I still found some time to paint the figure in time. I don't think it's my best work, but I would rate it at 80-90% of my painting capabilities. I even had to buy new undercoat and varnish since I couldn't take my spray paint cans with me in the plane or sea crate. I don't want to bragg, but I just wanted to show that even with some hurdles on the way you should have been able to make it in time. I can see if like 10-25% af all people can't make it, but 75%!!!!! Give me a break!
As long as I have one ticket in the draw I'm satisfied and I only hope the winner will get a team with at least 12-13 players (plus some coaching staff).
I guess that was more than just 2pc.
Tojurub
Tackledummy - Sep 08, 2004 - 01:28 AM
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Personally I've had enough. I think we should call it and draw between those who have actually got miniatures in. I said this at the end of the TBB legacy team and I'll say it again. People who failed to paint a mini within a month over the deadline should be barred from participating in future legacy teams. The same thing has happened time and time again with every single legacy team that has been run and yet we still keep trying to make exceptions and extend deadlines for their tardiness. I've honestly had enough to the point where I don't think I'll be entering in a Legacy team again if the same lazy people are signed up for doing minis. I understand there are always exceptions to the rule, some people have had a family crisis or have been snowed under with work from new jobs, but like Torj said, 75% is simply beyond a joke.
McDeth - Sep 08, 2004 - 03:01 AM
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Ok here goes.
previous experiences have shown me.
If people haven't contributed when the draw is made, then they dont send there figures after either. I am still waiting for two figures which were supposed to being sent from the first TBB legacy draw. When i say waiting , i've actually given up on em, but its disappointing that people say they'll do one thing when in reality have no intention of doing so. I've learned it s no good trusting to human nature because it just dont happen.
Secondly the draw should be limited now to whoever has sent models in, or have posted by the final closing date. 1 Drawer per person.
Last note
8 Months??????. I've seen it all before, why oh why people enter these with no intentiuon of completing i really dont know, but its happened with every legacy team, and all it does is spoil it for those who take part. End result, the lucky winner instead of ending up with a truly awesome and unique team ends with a mishmash of players that cant even generate a starting lineup.
Mel, Certainly shouldn't be the one apologising, its the people who cant paint one model in 8 months and have the decency to return the free model ( for cripes sake ) who should be apologising.
I appreciate that a few may have difficulties, but 75% ??get real.
Tojurub - Sep 08, 2004 - 03:47 AM
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Just to be more precise...it was not really 8 month...the first post in this thread originated in January, which is a little misleading....I just checked...Mel received the free GW minis after TKC, which was middle of March, which made it roughly 4 months to paint until the first deadline.
What bugs me a little bit...just a little...., is the fact that our new NAF prez hasn't answered the call about when he will submit his mini
McDeth - Sep 08, 2004 - 04:12 AM
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4 Months, 8 Months 6 months. it doesn't matter, everyone knew when the deadlines were
Tojurub - Sep 08, 2004 - 04:30 AM
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McDeth wrote:
4 Months, 8 Months 6 months. it doesn't matter, everyone knew when the deadlines were
I agree with you totally!!! I just "corrected" my 8-month statement, just in case somebody comes back and starts an argument with me saying they never had 8 months...etc.
Djengis_kahn - Sep 08, 2004 - 05:46 AM
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McDeth wrote:
4 Months, 8 Months 6 months. it doesn't matter, everyone knew when the deadlines were
I agree with this too..
Djengis
Hangus - Sep 08, 2004 - 06:50 AM
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i agree with Mcdeth deadlines a deadline and after Robs hard work for it to turn out the way it has done is very sad
i am happy with one chance in the lottery
Grasshopper - Sep 08, 2004 - 07:20 AM
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McDeth wrote:
Mel, Certainly shouldn't be the one apologising, its the people who cant paint one model in 8 months and have the decency to return the free model ( for cripes sake ) who should be apologising.
Agreed.
jaylazer - Sep 08, 2004 - 10:18 AM
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I absolutely agree with McDeth.
Mel you have done a great job organizing this. There is no reason why you should be apologizing for things that others have done (or haven't done).
Melifaxis - Sep 08, 2004 - 10:45 AM
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Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
There are a few things I would do differently in retrospect. The heart of it is that I just feel bad that Fanatic donated to the cause and we're falling short. I'd hate for them to no longer consider this a worthy project.
Tackledummy - Sep 09, 2004 - 12:55 AM
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Ditto in Mel apologising, sorry Mel in my frustration I forgot to mention it aswell. You got no need to apologise, in fact thank you so much for having the brass to take charge and be responsible for this.
In terms of Fanatic's donated Minis. If there are some that still need painting send one or two my way and they'll be painted to the same standard as my Blitzer within a fortnight.
Djengis_kahn - Sep 09, 2004 - 02:09 AM
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Tackledummy wrote:
Ditto in Mel apologising, sorry Mel in my frustration I forgot to mention it aswell. You got no need to apologise, in fact thank you so much for having the brass to take charge and be responsible for this.
In terms of Fanatic's donated Minis. If there are some that still need painting send one or two my way and they'll be painted to the same standard as my Blitzer within a fortnight.
yep I agree, And I also can paint an extra model !
and for sure I don't want to hear apologises from melifaxis !!
you did a nice job and it's not your fault that some people don't do what they said they would do.
Djengis
McDeth - Sep 09, 2004 - 05:21 AM
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Ok i'm prepared to paint an extra one up to, what figs do we need to complete the team?
Shadewe - Sep 09, 2004 - 06:49 AM
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I can paint what you need and have a better turn around than before...
Grasshopper - Sep 09, 2004 - 07:14 AM
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What they said. I've still got my white and blue paints out. Your elves can wait.
Melifaxis - Sep 09, 2004 - 08:23 AM
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To give the winning coach the opportunity to field any roster he chooses, the team would need the following:
4 Blitzers (we have 4)
2 Catchers (we have 2, 1 lost, and 1 more on the way)
2 Throwers (we have 0, but 1 on the way)
12 Linemen (we have 6, plus 1 lost, plus 3 on the way)
1 Chainsaw Weilding Lineman (we have 1)
1 Ogre (we have 1)
1 Minotaur (we have 0)
Zara (we have 1 on the way)
Thrud (we have 0)
I'm going to consider any that haven't come here after the PM's or to post/check in to be non-contributors at this point. That means it looks like to make this a top notch squad we need:
1 Thrower
3 Linemen
1 Minotaur
1 Thrud
Am I missing anything?
Melifaxis - Sep 09, 2004 - 09:15 AM
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See I do have to apologize. Xtreme had opted out quite a while ago and I left him in the list of interested parties. That being said, he wants to paint one up this week and send one in to help make this team complete!
I'll see what minis I have left from the Fanatic donation when I get home from work. I'm pretty sure there's a thrower, a blitzer, and a lineman (but we have 4 blitzers).
~Rob
Grasshopper - Sep 09, 2004 - 09:19 AM
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Ok... I'll do the Mino and whatever other mini's you want to send my way (or I can swing by Sun. and pick them up)
howlinggriffon - Sep 09, 2004 - 09:26 AM
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I'll do Thrudd...
Xtreme - Sep 09, 2004 - 05:32 PM
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I'll take a lineman unless grasshopper changes his mind on the mino. Should be in the mail monday.
kwailung - Sep 09, 2004 - 07:48 PM
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The thrower you're counting as coming is mine, right? If not, make that two throwers on the way. I should be able to finish it this weekend and post it on Monday.
DarkDancer17 - Sep 09, 2004 - 07:59 PM
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Are you still having folks paint them?
Could I get a link to the photos of the squad so far?
I'd be interested in doing any that you could send my way...
Colin - Sep 09, 2004 - 10:50 PM
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If you really need another lineman done, I guess I could do one (just let me know if you're going to send one, otherwise I'll use Marauder plastics to make one, should still have enough left over for one).
Dave - Sep 09, 2004 - 11:40 PM
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OK guys ..
Zara's been on an airoplane for about 4 days now ..
I've been in a huge .. GRRRR I HATE PAINTING ... period but she's up and running !
dave
Tackledummy - Sep 10, 2004 - 04:15 AM
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Chuck me the blitzer Mel, I'll convert him to a Lineman.
Tackledummy - Sep 10, 2004 - 04:19 AM
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Oooooo, or the thrower. Or both. Sorry I can't supply any more linemen, I had to stea...um...borrow the marauder bits to make my Blitzer. I simply don't have any Fantasy Chaos models.
Grasshopper - Sep 10, 2004 - 08:14 AM
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Xtreme, if you want to do the big guy feel free. I was going to hit the hobby shop next door at lunch and see what the have, but I'f you got the fever for the flavor of a Mino, then by all means.
I can do another ST3 fig no problem.
Grasshopper - Sep 10, 2004 - 08:19 AM
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DarkDancer17 wrote:
Are you still having folks paint them?
Could I get a link to the photos of the squad so far?
I'd be interested in doing any that you could send my way...
Dancer, just click the www button on Melifaxis' posts & look under the NAF 2004 team link on the left of the page.
TomB - Sep 10, 2004 - 11:33 AM
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so what is going on with the draw? I know my opinion would be biassed as i sent in 3 minis way before the original deadline, but to point out although i wouldnt mind winning i didnt enter to win, i just like people to see my work.
I like the way over the last few days everyone has got together to get this team sorted out (although i would prefer it if it wasnt the same people who had already entered)
On another point i think people who were sent a free model and didnt send it back should be banned from getting any more free models (but not banned from entering a legacy team)
Colin - Sep 10, 2004 - 12:04 PM
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So I do have enough bitz left to do a lineman from plastic marauder pieces (actually he's all assembled and waiting to be painted).
Don't want to have to go through the whole thread to find this out, but was there a specific colour of blue you were using?
I will try to get him done by the end of next week, will that be ok?
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 01:51 PM
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Color Scheme:
Skull White / Enchanted Blue (->Lightening) / Boltgun Metal
The first post has all the dirt
A plastic marauder is great as is the end of next week.
Thanks!
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 01:52 PM
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Dave wrote:
OK guys ..
Zara's been on an airoplane for about 4 days now ..
I've been in a huge .. GRRRR I HATE PAINTING ... period but she's up and running !
dave
Sweet, great news!
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 01:56 PM
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Shadewe wrote:
I can paint what you need and have a better turn around than before...
Do you have a mini or do you need one?
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 01:58 PM
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Xtreme wrote:
I'll take a lineman unless grasshopper changes his mind on the mino. Should be in the mail monday.
Looks like its up to you!
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 01:59 PM
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Grasshopper wrote:
What they said. I've still got my white and blue paints out. Your elves can wait.
Paint my elves. Now.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:00 PM
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kwailung wrote:
The thrower you're counting as coming is mine, right? If not, make that two throwers on the way. I should be able to finish it this weekend and post it on Monday.
Sounds great.
Just heard from Ben as well so we may end up with 3 throwers. He finished his long ago, but then had a paint spill and had to strip him and start over.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:01 PM
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howlinggriffon wrote:
I'll do Thrudd...
Cool, duly noted.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:02 PM
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DarkDancer17 wrote:
Are you still having folks paint them?
Could I get a link to the photos of the squad so far?
I'd be interested in doing any that you could send my way...
Grasshopper posted the link. If you'd like to take part, please PM me your address asap so I can send a mini out. It has to be back in by the 30th though.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:20 PM
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Thanks to all of you for helping to get this together at the wire (albeit the third wire), especially those of you who have already painted a figure. I appreciate your enthusiasm and dedication.
I have 4 miniatures left from Fanatic. Thrower, Blitzer 2, Lineman 1, and Catcher 2. I can mail them out to whomever donates a figure of their own or needs one to participate. I also have a Phil's Valk of my own that I could send out or paint.
Tackledummy, Djengis, McDeth, howlinggriffon, Xtreme, Grasshopper, DrakDancer, kwailung, Torpor, and myself are all willing to paint something else up. Shadwe and DarkDancer want in.
Of the gaps I had previously identified it looks like we have the following specific volunteering:
Thrower (kwailung, Torpor, and Ben)
Lineman (Torg)
Lineman ( )
Lineman ( )
Thrudd (howlinggriffon)
Minotaur (Xtreme or Grasshopper?)
I would like to offer Shadewe and DarkDancer the chance to fill a lineman slot before we go to someone who has already painted if that's ok with everyone.
Just call out here what you want to do and I'll update this.
Xtreme - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:53 PM
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Got a good start on the mino today, I'll do him as well as a lineman. is there a list of available numbers?
Xtreme - Sep 10, 2004 - 02:55 PM
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If the list on the first page is up to date I'll take number 10 and 20.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 03:14 PM
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Numbers added to first page
Colin - Sep 10, 2004 - 03:28 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Color Scheme:
Skull White / Enchanted Blue (->Lightening) / Boltgun Metal
The first post has all the dirt
A plastic marauder is great as is the end of next week.
Thanks!
OK, missed that on reading the first page. BTW, I don't have any boltgun metal, not sure if I have Lightning Blue either, but I can find something to highlight the Enchanted Blue. What colour is the Boltgun Metal? I have a paint called gunmetal, but it's really dark (is that what you want?).
Anyway, I'm hoping for the end of next week, but I'm sure it'll get there before the 30th.
Tackledummy - Sep 10, 2004 - 03:43 PM
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All sounds good to me Mel, just let me know if you need any gaps plugged.
Melifaxis - Sep 10, 2004 - 05:16 PM
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Torg wrote:
OK, missed that on reading the first page. BTW, I don't have any boltgun metal, not sure if I have Lightning Blue either, but I can find something to highlight the Enchanted Blue. What colour is the Boltgun Metal? I have a paint called gunmetal, but it's really dark (is that what you want?).
Anyway, I'm hoping for the end of next week, but I'm sure it'll get there before the 30th.
Lightening (the) blue just meant adding some white or using a lighter shade to highlight
I should add (the)
Djengis_kahn - Sep 11, 2004 - 03:45 AM
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wow few days offline and the whole team is getting together !
nice works guys !!
I am willing to paint a lineman, but I think the new guys deserve a chance to enter !
and I also don't have a model at home that is or could be converted in a norse linemen, but I could check the local gw shop though.
Djengis
Xtreme - Sep 11, 2004 - 05:24 AM
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Just need to finish the bases and pack them up. Right on schedule to go out Monday.
TomB - Sep 12, 2004 - 02:24 PM
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wow we must nearly have a full team
im glad this s finally getting together
Melifaxis - Sep 13, 2004 - 03:12 AM
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Added picture of howlinggriffon's lineman to the site and a pic of the ogre, but the greenstuff on his base is drying so I tried to do a closeup that avoided his base...came out blurry though...left it online anyways...time to see if the base is dry and I can finish him off.
howlinggriffon - Sep 13, 2004 - 07:53 AM
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Nice to see the Lineman again Mel - just noticed that his balls aren't spherical...
Grasshopper - Sep 13, 2004 - 07:59 AM
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howlinggriffon wrote:
Nice to see the Lineman again Mel - just noticed that his balls aren't spherical...
Not all are... especially after playing a bloodbowl.
Grasshopper - Sep 13, 2004 - 08:01 AM
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HOLY SH!T HG ! ! ! That lineman's GREAT... and Mel, that Ogre ain't too shabby either!!! I like that model. Nice freaking job guys!!!!
Melifaxis - Sep 13, 2004 - 08:08 AM
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Once the greenstuff on the base dries I'll finish him up and replace the picture. Then it's time to start my Phil's mini for the TBB contest (I don't intend to win, just participate and practice my painting).
Grasshopper - Sep 13, 2004 - 09:41 AM
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hmmm... guess I need to get some phil's...
Melifaxis - Sep 13, 2004 - 11:18 PM
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Base is done...new photos taken and uploaded.
howlinggriffon - Sep 14, 2004 - 01:37 AM
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Nice work on the Ogre Mel - he looks much more fearsome than ol' Morg or the lumpy new GW Ogres...
Djengis_kahn - Sep 14, 2004 - 01:54 PM
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wow nice ogre melifaxis !!
btw: Is there an other linemen needed for the team??
I'll check my local shop for a nice model to convert.
Djengis
Djengis_kahn - Sep 14, 2004 - 01:55 PM
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realy nice work on that lino HG !!
i realy like the horns and how the "bronze" :s turned out !!
Nice work !!
Djengis
Dave - Sep 16, 2004 - 05:14 PM
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mel .. did you get zara ??
Melifaxis - Sep 16, 2004 - 09:00 PM
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Not yet, but I promise to post here the day she arrives.
majortusk - Sep 18, 2004 - 12:54 AM
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I am soo sorry for taking so long in getting back to you guys on the mini, if i read right is the grace period to the end of the month?
Melifaxis - Sep 18, 2004 - 03:50 PM
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Yes, we're calling it complete on the 30th. We'll still be happy to have your contribution of course.
Tojurub - Sep 20, 2004 - 12:30 AM
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I would suggest that if you still can, Andy, do a different miniature since we already have 3 throwers (with the limit of 2 due to the rules).
We can always need more lineman
Melifaxis - Sep 20, 2004 - 01:51 PM
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Dave and Xtreme's contributions arrived today and look fantastic! I'll get some pics online in the next day or two.
Melifaxis - Sep 20, 2004 - 06:35 PM
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Ok, pictures of Zara and the Lineman are up, but the minotaur pics were both blurry so I'll need to reshoot them tomorrow.
TomB - Sep 21, 2004 - 01:47 AM
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heh i find it amusing that zara has dave written on the base. Kind of funny if you play an opponent and something on kickoff happens that affects a random player. He asks for number 3 on the roster, "ah, dave he says, which one is that" and you pick up the girl.
my weird sense of humor i know
Djengis_kahn - Sep 21, 2004 - 03:02 AM
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zara looks nice !
nice painting on her dave !!
I like the "other" colours you used like the red.
and the linemen is nice to extreme !
Grumbledook - Sep 21, 2004 - 08:02 AM
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my mates gf has aquired the nickname dave
does cause some problems but its funny ;]
Tackledummy - Sep 21, 2004 - 11:45 PM
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Oh dear, I hope it's not because she has a big, dirty Sanchez tache?
Grasshopper - Sep 22, 2004 - 05:52 AM
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Oh Oh!!!!! EEEWWWW....
*where's the puke smiley when you really need it?*
Djengis_kahn - Sep 24, 2004 - 01:46 AM
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6 days until the deadline !
and when is draw made then?
just that day or somedays later?
Djengis
Colin - Sep 24, 2004 - 11:54 AM
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OK, lineman is sent out today (I know, one week later than I had said), if he doesn't arrive in time, don't worry about putting my name into the hat. Figured I could have done this quicker, but job and other stuff got in the way, hope the fig doesn't look too bad along side of the great painted minis in this team.
Melifaxis - Sep 24, 2004 - 12:17 PM
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Great news Torg, and you're in the draw.
Everyone who is participating and is not in bold font on the first post that has not PMed me or posted an update please do so (excluding Sineater who is waiting on a final list of entrants). Many humble thanks.
Rob
Colin - Sep 24, 2004 - 02:14 PM
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That's ok Mel, I really don't want to be in the draw anyway, just wanted to contribute (just wish I had been able to do a bit better job of it). Just wanted to help out and get a full team for whoever wins it, not interesting in winning it as I have no need for another Norse team and I have no place or room to display it. Let someone who needs and wants a Norse team and will play it at tournies (or league games even) to win it. Thanks anyway.
Melifaxis - Sep 24, 2004 - 02:47 PM
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Fair enough. Thanks for helping us out
crazylegs - Sep 25, 2004 - 10:19 PM
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Sorry for the wait, the minotaur is done, and will be mailed to Melifaxis on Monday...
I don't know why the pic isn't coming up but here's the url:
http://www.coolminiornot.com/pics/pics7/img415642d6927e0.jpg
Shadewe - Sep 26, 2004 - 03:21 AM
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I'll be Fedexing the Lineman on monday and it should get to you by weds.
Djengis_kahn - Sep 26, 2004 - 03:51 AM
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that minotaur is looking realy nice Crazylegs !!
good job on that one !!
"Only 4 days remaining"
Djengis
TomB - Sep 29, 2004 - 07:21 AM
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yeah the minotaur is cool!
howlinggriffon - Sep 29, 2004 - 01:41 PM
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I've still got some bits to do on Thrudd. I've been delayed as I'm job-hunting at the moment...
Will get it finished ASAP and sent off to Mel.
Tojurub - Sep 30, 2004 - 01:03 AM
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Today is the day
Xtreme - Sep 30, 2004 - 02:23 AM
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The day the music died?
howlinggriffon - Sep 30, 2004 - 03:21 AM
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Sorry about this but I couldn't help it...
"And we'll be singing, Bye Bye Miss Amorican Pie..."
TomB - Sep 30, 2004 - 03:27 AM
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as long as its not the maddona version im happy with it
Grasshopper - Sep 30, 2004 - 07:18 AM
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"got in a scuffle with ol' nuffle, now my goblins are fried"...
KarlLagerbottom - Sep 30, 2004 - 07:31 AM
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"Like a half-ling...thrown for the very first time...like a half-la-la-la-ling landing safely...on the goal line...it's a touchdown...oh..oh..oh..its a touchdown...feels so good to score...with a halfling..."
Another excerpt from Madonna's little known Blood Bowl Anthology Album.
-Rob
majortusk - Sep 30, 2004 - 04:27 PM
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I just put the fig in the post, I know I didnt make the deadline. but it should be there soon.
crazylegs - Sep 30, 2004 - 08:45 PM
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Melifaxis,
Did you get the minotaur? It should have come yesterday or today (knowing the mail though it may not be another day or two...), I'm just curious....
kwailung - Oct 01, 2004 - 01:51 AM
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Same goes for the thrower I sent -- posted him Monday.
Tojurub - Oct 01, 2004 - 03:25 AM
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So when exactly does the lottery happen and how is the procedure?
I'm so excited.......
Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 08:38 AM
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crazylegs wrote:
Melifaxis,
Did you get the minotaur? It should have come yesterday or today (knowing the mail though it may not be another day or two...), I'm just curious....
He just arrived safe and sound last night
Shadewe's needed a signature but the local PO has it and I'll be getting there on my lunch break to pick him up before they close.
Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 08:48 AM
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KarlLagerbottom (on the way)
dwarfcoach - Lineman 1 (will send directly to winner)
Evil_Git1 - lineman conversion (on the way)
Old_Man_Monkey [69] - Linewoman (Phil's Valkyrie - on the way)
Ben [1] - Thrower
Last call gentlemen...please update on the status. I'm e-mailing Jake about the draw today.
Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 10:28 AM
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kwailung wrote:
Same goes for the thrower I sent -- posted him Monday.
Not yet. I'll post as soon as he arrives.
Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 10:29 AM
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Tojurub wrote:
So when exactly does the lottery happen and how is the procedure?
I'm so excited.......
I'll probably stick with what I did last time. Put everyone in an excel sheet, randomize the order, then get Jake to pick a random number and post it here (EDIT: last time it was Andy not Jake)
KarlLagerbottom - Oct 01, 2004 - 11:33 AM
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Mel-
I still have not had a chance to catch-up with my friend. (I left it at his house during our last game.) I am supposed to see him Sunday...if that goes as planned. It'll go out Monday AM.
Sorry. -Rob
rabidroadkill - Oct 01, 2004 - 02:10 PM
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Okay, maybe I'm just dumb, but where can I see the minis that have already been done?
(I usually just lurk on the boards, sorry. My son is just now getting to an age where I have time to do more than that I definitely would like to contribute in the future for this since I do have the time. If any of you are in MBBL2, you may recognize me.)
Melifaxis - Oct 01, 2004 - 02:24 PM
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Click the WWW icon under one of my posts and then choose NAF 2004 Legacy Team from the menu
rabidroadkill - Oct 01, 2004 - 11:09 PM
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Ahhh VERY nice!!! Good work by all I need to finish my own Ogre team so that will give me plenty of practice for next year.
Shadewe - Oct 01, 2004 - 11:43 PM
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My son ruined miniature just arrived yesterday. He dicided to help me paint and dunked it in the water while I was out of the room
Melifaxis - Oct 02, 2004 - 07:06 AM
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Pics of Shadewe's lineman, and the two minos will be up this weekend.
Djengis_kahn - Oct 02, 2004 - 11:57 AM
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Melifaxis wrote:
Pics of Shadewe's lineman, and the two minos will be up this weekend.
2 minotaurs.. ???
COOL.. I've only seen one I think ..
thats nice, an extra big guy.
what kind of mino is it ? and official gw? or conversion ??
BTW: on the lottery piece... : are you going to give sertain people's (Who entered in time) more times their names or not ? there was hat idea.. but I don't know if it is going to happen..
Djengis
TomB - Oct 03, 2004 - 03:41 AM
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yeah thats a good point nobody actually came to a conclusion on that. Or at least i cant remember it.
Melifaxis - Oct 03, 2004 - 01:33 PM
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It will be one draw per participant based on the earlier conversation. Pics of both minos and Shadewe's lineman are up
Shadewe - Oct 03, 2004 - 06:03 PM
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He does look a bit deranged doesn't he? Nice minos.
dwarfcoach - Oct 03, 2004 - 06:10 PM
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Melifaxis wrote:
dwarfcoach - Lineman 1 (will send directly to winner)
Ok, so he's almost done. How will this work? I'm not asking to be included (due to my unforgivable slackness ) but I'm just wondering how we want to procede? I was thinking that if, when the winner is anounced, he p.m's me with his address and then I post it direct...?
Let me know how you want to do it Melifaxis .
KarlLagerbottom - Oct 03, 2004 - 09:38 PM
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Mel-
I will likely have to do the same, as I did not catch-up with my friend this weekend. I'm not sure what the deal is there...I just wish I never left it behind. Better yet...I should have just left it home.
Sorry ... please let me/us know how to proceed...
Thanks. -Rob
howlinggriffon - Oct 04, 2004 - 02:38 AM
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Same here with the Thrudd I'm finishing. Got caught up with job-hunting and family stuff...
Cheers
Grasshopper - Oct 04, 2004 - 08:36 AM
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Get a pencil and start drawing!
ahhh... sounded much funnier in my head.
Melifaxis - Oct 04, 2004 - 09:49 AM
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How about this...if you send them by Friday then send them to me, otherwise please PM the lucky winner and send them directly to him/her
Melifaxis - Oct 04, 2004 - 09:53 AM
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In theory we should know who the lucky winner is very soon. I asked Jake to post the winner directly in this thread.
Grasshopper - Oct 04, 2004 - 10:17 AM
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Ok, so who is this Jake, and what's his Paypal account name?
Quirkworthy - Oct 04, 2004 - 10:24 AM
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...number 7.
Well that's what it says on this piece of paper.
Just so you know this was fair and above board, I wrote out 1-21 on bits of paper and folded them up. Jervis then drew out 2 of them (one to win the team, the other to get any spare figs that may be left over) from the Dungeonbowl tankard they were in. I was going to use dice, but I've lost my D21.
Looking up the numbers on Rob's spreadsheet translates 7 to Thadrin. Congratulations Thadrin - proud owner of the 2004 NAF legacy team!
The second number was 21, which is Sturmjarl. He gets the remainder of the miniatures to start his own Norse team.
And that's that. Hope everyone had fun with the models, and we'll see more of these great competitions again.
All the best
Jake Thornton
Melifaxis - Oct 04, 2004 - 10:26 AM
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Congrats Thadrin and Sturmjarl!!
PM me your addresses if you'd be so kind. Thanks to everyone for participating and thank you again to Jake and Fanatic for sponsoring the 2004 NAF Legacy Team
Thadrin - Oct 04, 2004 - 10:33 AM
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Woo-ha woo-ha....
(I wanna know what this "Mystery contribution" is....)
Grasshopper - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:08 AM
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A dinner of Sheep's head jam and Rotten-Buried Shark Suprise, done in the Nordic style of course.
Grasshopper - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:17 AM
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Oh yeah...
Congrats guys...
DUH!
KarlLagerbottom - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:32 AM
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Wow...talk about karma...a Swede wins the Norse team.
Djengis_kahn - Oct 04, 2004 - 11:50 AM
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Congrats Thadrin !
I hope you play well with them !
and congrats to Sturmjarl for winning the minis !
everybody nice work ! we've made a nice team there !! and we can be proud on it !
Thanks Melifaxis for collecting the mini's ! you did a great job and kept every body happy !
thanks Jake and Jervis for the loting
Great job every one !!
BUT !! :
Next legacy team will be mine !! 
(I Hope !! )
Djengis :8
Old_Man_Monkey - Oct 04, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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Congrats, Thads! At least you can no longer say you don't win anything...
Sturmjarl - Oct 04, 2004 - 12:56 PM
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WOW!! and Thanks!! for 2nd Place!! And congrats to Thadrin!! That's a FUN team!! and I can't wait until the next Legacy team!!
Melifaxis - Oct 04, 2004 - 03:51 PM
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3 packages waitning at home for me today. Majortusk, Kwailung, and Torg can breathe a sigh of relief. I'll open them up and get some pics after dinner, etc.
majortusk - Oct 04, 2004 - 04:00 PM
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aye, if you can get me some multiple pix of the mini I painted it would be cool. my digicam was not working when i sent it out.
kwailung - Oct 04, 2004 - 06:19 PM
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Gosh, it only took a WEEK for my package to show up. I could've hand-delivered it in that time. I look forward to seeing the picture, as all my photo gear is packed for our upcoming move and I didn't get any shots before sending him out.
kwailung - Oct 04, 2004 - 06:22 PM
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Oh yes, congrats to Thadrin and Sturmjarl, that's great, guys!
And many, many thanks to Melifaxis for being the long-suffering co-ordinator of this project. (or is that the long-coordinated sufferer for this project?)
At any rate, thanks MEL! You're SUPER!
rabidroadkill - Oct 04, 2004 - 07:25 PM
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Congrats Thadrin and Sturmjarl!!! I'm very jealous as I've been considering starting a Norse team (whenever I can pry the money from my wife to buy them )
crazylegs - Oct 04, 2004 - 09:16 PM
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congrats, and good luck to you with that team Thadrin...
Xtreme - Oct 05, 2004 - 12:41 AM
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Congrats Thad.
howlinggriffon - Oct 05, 2004 - 03:05 AM
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Congrats to you both - I hope you enjoy the team and the minis!
Tojurub - Oct 05, 2004 - 11:54 AM
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Congrads...have fun playing with them...and good luck in the games
dwarfcoach - Oct 05, 2004 - 02:53 PM
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Congrats guys!!
So I still have the 95% finished St 4 Lineman I rushed to try to get done once I could not find the real lineman sent to me by Mel as I have recently moved. Who do I send it to? When that is decided can the person P.M. me their address?
Tackledummy - Oct 05, 2004 - 09:55 PM
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Well done guys and cheers to all contributed.
Heh, now comes the question 'Do we want to go through all of this again?'
Shadewe - Oct 05, 2004 - 11:20 PM
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Tackledummy wrote:
Heh, now comes the question 'Do we want to go through all of this again?'
Congrats you 2. Hope we can go through this agian
Old_Man_Monkey - Oct 06, 2004 - 02:41 AM
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I think most definitely there should be a Legacy team, each year. Despite the struggle sometimes, the final result brings pride and a sense of accomplishment to everyone who submits a figure (not to mention the looks of envy and awe from others who see the team and didn't participate! )
There are several NAF members in Europe who would like to lead a Legacy effort - Rob, you've done such a great job with the last two, would you be willing to write up a pointers list to give to someone who was organizing a Legacy team, including the set of rules that we've established for how to proceed and how to handle things like coach selection or the ownership issue?
Being somewhat abashed at my inability to complete a figure, I admire even more all of you who put it together - congrats to each and every one of you and once again to Dave!
TomB - Oct 06, 2004 - 04:30 AM
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hope u enjoy my minis - also to note that i dont mind if you mess around with the paint work on the linemans goggles, i couldnt figure out how to get them to look right maybes you will
Melifaxis - Oct 06, 2004 - 07:34 AM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:
There are several NAF members in Europe who would like to lead a Legacy effort - Rob, you've done such a great job with the last two, would you be willing to write up a pointers list to give to someone who was organizing a Legacy team, including the set of rules that we've established for how to proceed and how to handle things like coach selection or the ownership issue?
Thanks Jim
I already wrote up an article for Jake and Andy on the topic that should see light in Fanatic soon. To be honest, I haven't looked at it since I submitted it, but I'll see if there's anything I can add beyond what was written.
Old_Man_Monkey - Oct 06, 2004 - 08:15 AM
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Can you email the article to me and I can share with the next Legacy boss... waiting for the Fanatic appearance might be too long!
Melifaxis - Oct 06, 2004 - 08:53 AM
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No sweat. As long as it is not published anywhere else I think Jake and Andy would approve. It's on my home PC so I'll send it out tonight.
Djengis_kahn - Oct 08, 2004 - 04:53 AM
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I'm allready looking forward to next years legacy team !
Djengis
Grasshopper - Oct 08, 2004 - 07:02 AM
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Should we take race votes now?
Melifaxis - Oct 09, 2004 - 07:22 PM
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Why dont we focus on the TBB one for a while.
Pics of Torg's, Kwailung's, and Majortusk's minis are up now.
Tackledummy - Oct 09, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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Has someone started a TBB one?
Djengis_kahn - Oct 10, 2004 - 05:44 AM
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yes, check the miniatures part: it the poll for the team choice..
and vote !
rabidroadkill - Oct 20, 2004 - 06:25 PM
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Hey Melifaxis, I LOVE the pixie assasin for a Gobbo, is it roughly the same size as a GW goblin? If so I may order one
Melifaxis - Oct 21, 2004 - 12:26 PM
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Thanks
It's like a tall skinny goblin. Picture an average height person next to JJ from Good Times. Tall and lanky
Xtreme - Oct 21, 2004 - 10:37 PM
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And JJ on snots team was a beast at GenCon. His performance alone made me want one of those models.
Melifaxis - Oct 27, 2004 - 05:56 PM
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Karl's Catcher arrived today
Melifaxis - Nov 01, 2004 - 08:38 PM
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Pic is online
Melifaxis - Nov 18, 2004 - 08:52 AM
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Thads just dropped me a line to say that the team has arrived safe and sound (with the exception of my own ogre whose arm came off).
I am MUCH relieved.
Djengis_kahn - Nov 18, 2004 - 10:42 AM
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coool
nice to hear the good news !
a pitty your ogre arm fell off.
congrats again thads !
Shadewe - Nov 18, 2004 - 11:35 AM
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Good to hear. Hope the team plays well for him.
Melifaxis - Mar 14, 2005 - 12:51 PM
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Can a mod please unsticky this thread and make the 2005 team thread sticky?
Thank you in advance