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Post subject: Orcs and tactics?!?
Posted: Feb 11, 2003 - 06:30 AM
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Hurrah!
The very first post on the tactics forum is mine!!!
Well... I was wondering wether any of you guys have ever managed to take an Orc team to a BB championship and win, and if so, then HOW?!?
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Posted: Feb 11, 2003 - 08:47 AM
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Posted: Feb 11, 2003 - 07:37 PM
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Dern you Anthony, I've taken my boyz to a second place finish as well...Though the final did come down to the wire too! Maybe next time.
Orcs are a great team. Dead 'ard too! and they are balanced despite what you'll hear. |
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Posted: Feb 11, 2003 - 10:51 PM
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Right now I'm 3-4 with my Orcs, but on the bright side my Casulties F/A are 17/4. I feel your best offence is a good defence. Kill them before they score. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 12:49 AM
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Dern you Anthony, I've taken my boyz to a second place finish as well...
Don't get the impression that had anything to do with it Well I suppose losing both my games against him helped a bit... |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 01:25 AM
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Well, at my gaming club I'm top of the pool - just below Stefan with his bloody stupid Norse (AV 7 is impregnable you know...) but at the Dutch open I played 5 games and lost 4 (the 1st game was a draw). My precious Orcses were dealing out loads of damage (also to themselves - curse Throw Team-Mate!!!) but the whole concept of picking up the ball and transporting it to the endzone was only understood twice (once by a Goblin and the 2nd time by my Ogre ).
By the way, I'm not saying that Orcs are unbalanced - they're one of the hippest teams around, it's just that there's nothing that they really excel in (apart from bashing Wardancers that is...) |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 04:41 AM
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I'm taking Orcs to The Blood Bowl. Reasons?
I like the Orc/Goblin ethos: Anyone remember the old WH40k picture with the orc trying to understand why a bolt gun wouldn't work and there was a cable leading from it with a 3 pin mains plug on the end? Sadly GW erased the lead/plug in later prints .. but it captures BB orcs wonderfully IMHO.
I got fed up with my Skaven (who I love playing) getting mashed and fancied a change.
I fancied playing a bit of destructive Blood Bowl (Rather than 'Dodgy' BB).
I wanted to paint a new metal team I didn't already have.
I came up with a roster I am very happy with. Sure they forget about the ball a bit .. but more than make that up with punch. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 04:59 AM
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Skaven getting mashed? I remember playing against Paul Geggs, whose Skaven are invulnerable (I injured ONE rat during the match!)...
Stupid furry rat-things, yesssss.... |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 05:34 AM
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Odd isn't it?
They went years without a scratch (well almost) .. won my last mini tournament with embarassing ease .. but I had to retire them from my league as they got decimated 4 games in a row.
They'll come back .. but for the moment nothing beats the pleasure of having AV9 almost across the board |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 05:41 AM
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Squiggoth wrote: My precious Orcses were dealing out loads of damage (also to themselves - curse Throw Team-Mate!!!)
My Orcs managed 4 cas. all tournament...
I did throw the Gobbo for a one turner though!
Awesome team BTW, congrats on Best Painted. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 06:20 AM
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I reckon the TTM tactic works pretty well for orcs, and against an unprepared opponent can be used very effectively to nick a win in the dying seconds (although true, it can fall flat on it's face!!)
imagine it though - it's 3 - 3 and you have one turn to score. your opponent forgets about TTM and you lob the gobbo into a comfortable area of the opponents half and then go on to score... |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 10:36 AM
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I won the WPS Club Challenge BB event with Orcs.
Um, what can I tell you, I played well
Sorry to sound flippant but how else do you answer the question "how do you win?" There's no tricks to it, no cheat codes, and no one gameplan that works.
Some basic gameplay tips:
- Normal rules of controlling the pace of the match apply.
- Use blitzers and keep them mobile. The game is won on TDs, not casualties, don't make the common mistake of thinking that the way to win is beat everything to a pulp.
- Use your blocking strength and your high AV to make blocks to control areas of the pitch, not to hunt for casualties. Think of your team like an army front line, keep them in a front and push your opponent where you want them, don't just fragment your players and go randomly hunting.
- Be prepared to do something unexepcted and outrageous when necessary.
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 10:47 AM
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Deathwing wrote: Squiggoth wrote: My precious Orcses were dealing out loads of damage (also to themselves - curse Throw Team-Mate!!!)
My Orcs managed 4 cas. all tournament...
I did throw the Gobbo for a one turner though!
Awesome team BTW, congrats on Best Painted.
Thanks! And mine killed 11 (well, I had to play against 2 Human teams ). I guess I should have taken an High Elf Coach ("No no no, darkly green sir, you don't want to pummel these humans, you want to pick up that inflated pig's bladder - yes, I know it's very icky but so is poking your finger in that peasant's eyeball - and carry it across that shiny white line over there - see? ...By the way, is everybody in for some nice, hot tea?")
Indigo wrote: imagine it though - it's 3 - 3
Imagine that indeed... Would that be against sleeping Halflings?
Come to think of it, I have pulled of a few 3-0 victories with Da Boyz in the past... Just HOW did I do THAT?!?!?
But TTM is indeed a mighty ploy, as long as you don't expect to actually win the match with it - if your opponent expects it he usually just has to leave 1 or 2 Linemen behind to wreck the brave little Gobbo's pretty features. It can be used to give your nasty, wicked, evil rival coach a nasty shock, though |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 10:50 AM
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Marcus wrote: I won the WPS Club Challenge BB event with Orcs.
Um, what can I tell you, I played well
Sorry to sound flippant but how else do you answer the question "how do you win?" There's no tricks to it, no cheat codes, and no one gameplan that works.
Some basic gameplay tips:
- Normal rules of controlling the pace of the match apply.
- Use blitzers and keep them mobile. The game is won on TDs, not casualties, don't make the common mistake of thinking that the way to win is beat everything to a pulp.
- Use your blocking strength and your high AV to make blocks to control areas of the pitch, not to hunt for casualties. Think of your team like an army front line, keep them in a front and push your opponent where you want them, don't just fragment your players and go randomly hunting.
- Be prepared to do something unexepcted and outrageous when necessary.
Marcus
Hmmmz... I reckognize all those "Don't do..." things as my own "Good Orcy Taktikz"
Next year, Geggster, next year... Muwahahahahaha! (that was supposed to sound evil...) |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2003 - 10:54 AM
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Oh, you won't beat Geggster. He's an ECBBL player and one of our best. Also a Skaven coach, and we ECBBL Skaven coaches are fearsome....
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