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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 02:06 PM
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If you're taking the no general access from the vault rules, why didn't you apply it to bull centaurs too like the vault does? Not that i'd like that either mind you, i'd rather stay as far away from those dreadful rules as possible. |
_________________ They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 02:28 PM
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A failed dodge, GFI, a bad TTM landing on the turf, should not result in a CAS IMHO
Fouling is ok and the crowd is ok. Now a TTM that hits another player and results in a CAS...that I'm open for allowing on both sides |
_________________ aka Rob (NAF #248)
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 03:37 PM
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gken1 wrote: I never took block on my mummies
I don't think you needed it in the second game. It would have come in helpfull in that first game though. Those three dice you going down blocks were painfull to watch. Really they were. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 03:39 PM
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gken1 wrote: I've always been a fan of counting all cas's. It let's a team that decides to foul their way back into the most cas trophy a chance. Fans' don't care where a foul comes from (I hate the latest ff ruling from bbrc) and we aren't playing for spp's.
Fouling, DOH, I forgot to add the modified IGMEOY. I'll add that in now. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 03:45 PM
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How about this for Casualties. Any casualty where the offence was directly involved in causing the casualty counts for the casualty total. Thus GFI's or bad TTM's would not count as the offence is not involved. Dodges and pushing offside would as the offence either pushed you off the field or caused you to fail the dodge, well sort of. Thoughts? |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 04:05 PM
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A goblin thrown onto the ball carrier and killing him doesn't directly involve the offence?
Also, if the opponent forced the dodge roll, it could be argued that they also forced the GFI that you used to get away from them. For simplicity's sake, either include everything, or only include SPP-awarding CAS. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 04:17 PM
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I don't think that failed dodges or GFI's should count, as the opponent did not directly cause the injury. However, everything else goes. Fouls are kind of obvious...the crowd should count, as the hapless victim was pushed there for just that purpose...TTM I think should also count. It is possible that the flying Gobbo/Fling was thrown with an intent to injure. Even if it was by accident the injury was the direct result of the BigGuy who made the toss.
This would also clear up what counts and who gets credit for the CASs in the DeathBowl.
Just the opinion of a grudge-bearing, bitter dwarf.
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 04:26 PM
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 04:39 PM
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If you have both balls, can you make one normal pass and one TTM? This would allow goblin and orc teams to score in one turn in the final, though the chance of it happening would be infinitesimal. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 07:05 PM
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Zombie wrote: If you have both balls, can you make one normal pass and one TTM? This would allow goblin and orc teams to score in one turn in the final, though the chance of it happening would be infinitesimal.
Short answer yes. The long answer is that you could not pass a ball, catch it and then TTM the player that caught the ball. You can only make one pass action with each ball. You can not transfer the pass action for one ball to the other.
Hmm I'm still undecided about the casualties. I see what you're saying Zombie about it not being that clear and it should be clear. I'm leaning towards counting SPP Casualties, Fouls and Crowd Casualties. Leaving out Dodging, GFI's, and anyhting else alltogether. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 07:11 PM
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I was thinking more of the following :
1. A player picks up one ball at centerfield.
2. The troll moves up one square and throws a goblin 10 more squares.
3. Another player picks up the second ball and throws it to the goblin.
4. The goblin runs the remaining 9 squares using sprint and sure feet.
Remember that a TTM doesn't need to involve a ball at all. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 07:39 PM
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Ok but why would you need 2 balls for that? You could do that without the first pickup as in any normal game. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 07:46 PM
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no you couldn't. you could throw a goblin or pass the ball. |
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Posted: Aug 11, 2004 - 08:21 PM
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I would say you need two balls... |
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Posted: Aug 12, 2004 - 01:21 AM
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Looking forward to coming to the DB again this year, Cyberhare, after being away from the game for too long this summer. Last years was a blast, I'm sure a bunch of us from Toronto will be there once again to screw things up. |
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