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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 22, 2004 - 06:52 AM



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AnthonyTBBF,

Now that I hear your thoughts on why TD's are used as the tie braker, I see where you are coming from...but it still favors the fast teams the way it stands. Why not use TD for/TD Against differential? That adds another step for the TO to figure out, but percenatges do more to take away any racial advantage more then straight-TDs do.

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If you look at how the Spike! turned out...Torg was the only team to have beaten the eventual champion. Furthermore, I believe that he only gave up 2 TDs in the whole process. If I am remembering that correctly, that's a pretty tough pill to swallow to have not made the final at a point when you are undefeated AND won and tied against the teams "ahead" of you in the only head-to-head match-ups.

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TD differential was used as the tie-breaker, not TDs scored.

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I believe TD differential was what was used. Tds for - Tds against.

Ben, Torg (who I assume is Todd?) and myself were all tied for points after round 5. Ben was way ahead on TD differential and I was ahead of Torg. Knowing the system, I had taken some risks throughout the day to get TDs, even when the games were already won and all I would have to do is stall.

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Anthony,

Similar to what Zombie was saying, I believe that if people rated everyone from one to three, but then chose one person who they felt was the best sport of the lot, (hard, I know seeing as you were all such a great bunch!) but by choosing the one they felt was the best, this would certainly narrow down the field, if not determine the overall "best".

I believe that a similar system was implemented at the Conflict, no?


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Not sure, but yeah Zombie was talking about his idea after the Spike and I think it would work well. I will try and convince Ian to do it for the Canadian Open.

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AnthonyTBBF, Ok...differential was used...fair enough. Very Happy
Kolja_TBBF, I did not realize that this was published...knowing full well that I was not going to be anywhere near the top I didn't even bother to look into this. But now I know that I'm armed with this info, the 'Flings will be hell bent for TD's so that they make it into the DeathBowl!!! Very Happy

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To be perfectly honest, this being my first tourney, I didn't THINK I'd be in contention in the end. And I didn't fully digest the implications concerning the tie-breakers. Hindsight being 20/20, I definately would have done some things different in my games, but alas...I'll chalk it up to a learning experience.

Still doesn't do anything to diminish my sincere gratitude to the hosts for their hospitality. Smile

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Put it this way, we'll all be scared silly when we are matched up with you at the next one... Very Happy That's a pretty impressive performance for your first event.

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I don't know... I won my first tournament and nobody was scared of me at the Spike! Embarassed

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      Zombie wrote:
I don't know... I won my first tournament and nobody was scared of me at the Spike! Embarassed


I don't know ... I was a little scared when you tried to steal my box of Chez-its. Very Happy

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Thats cuz we know it was a fluke... Laughing Razz

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yah..remember we let you win that one. It still sounds weird, even now. 3 TBBF'ers and 1 other guy make it to the final and we let the other guy win. WEIRD.
 
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especially when 1 of the TBBF'ers had 2 TD's in the first half and it never even made it into OT ... dumbasses, i'll never leave that alone!

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I think a problem that came up in the end was that kojila, Ben, torg and I were the top 4. torg had already played ben and kojila but Ben was #1 with TD diff. So I played Ben and kojila/torg played the next ranked players. If I had played torg and ben/kojila played each other there probably wouldn't have been a need for a tie breaker. But it doesn't matter to me since I was out anyway. More for Torg---just a crappy way to get knocked out and it didn't make me beating him in the final game any fun since he was "out of it".

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      BUD wrote:
especially when 1 of the TBBF'ers had 2 TD's in the first half and it never even made it into OT ... dumbasses, i'll never leave that alone!


It did go into OT. That's when i scored my 3rd TD. It took minimum 3 turns for me to score a TD, so it would have been impossible for me to score 3 in the 2nd half alone. The game ended after 3 turns of OT.

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