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Posted: May 10, 2005 - 01:07 PM
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I have no problems with the sportsman ship system As it meant my goblins came 21st!!!! Clearly the little lads thought it up
However even without it I would have been 50 something. So perhaps somthing wrong with Goblins? Secret weapons a little cheap? I lost 1 game out of 6. |
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Posted: May 10, 2005 - 05:27 PM
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What lineup did you take? I reckon the gobbo SPs are relatively cheap (Nobbla in particular is a bargain for 80k). |
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Posted: May 10, 2005 - 06:19 PM
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Deathwing wrote: That said, I couldn't give a stuff about final standing (just W L D), but the rounds (inc the final) should have gone on Points/TD/Cas/Sports and not Points/Sports/TD/Cas. (Apart from anything else, that was naturally going to match up the people prepared to dish out max points!!!! ). If they fix that then I'd be happy enough with the scoring system.
If the TD difference is already factored into the initial score (as it was at the BB) then you should not have TDs as the next tiebreak as you are giving an advantage to high scoring teams. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 01:37 AM
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Emberbreeze wrote:
It may seem like alot of money, but I bet an independant couldn't provide a venue for upto 200 coaches, 3 meals, comemortive coin for much less than £40 a ticket and they wouldn't be paying staff costs and all sorts of other overheads.
£8K, Easily be used to hire a hall give you your three meals and probably give you a sculpted figure and better prizes.
£8k goes a hell of along way |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 02:15 AM
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What lineup did you take? I reckon the gobbo SPs are relatively cheap (Nobbla in particular is a bargain for 80k).
On a related subject to this, what are peoples opinions regarding star players at tournaments like the BB. Should they be allowed or banned? How much should they cost etc? |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 02:27 AM
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Thanks to all the compliments i have received.
Like last year, I left Warhammerworld happy, but not 100%. Last year I finished 55th (5W 1L) but with no sportmanship points (same happend to Geggster), so after lots of speaking, the revised everything and we got our possition back.
This year I found myself, again, in an strange mess. After the 5th round, we all thought that, Paul and Myself, having the same points, it was Pauls pass to the final, as he was better in TD. But the surprises came when they putted me in the final and left Paul at the gates. After consulting to the Refs and Jervis itself, they did say different versions. One said it was because of Sportmenships points, and the second was that it was the total of TD and CAS... The criteria that they followed is something i was not aware of, and certenly i (or we all) have played far too many tourneys were the rules were different. (Tiebreaker: Points/TD/CAS....)
I cant say more, but would like to dedicate this to Paul, as I think, he deserved this. (in our game I tied in a last minute rush with at least 10 succsefull rolls and without this draw, he could be the winner)
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 03:17 AM
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That's very kind of you Dan, but too much.
Sure, we had a mighty close game and I was disappointed with not getting to the final, but you got there fair and square. Sportsmanship, right or wrong, was the official tie-breaker and you just pipped me on that.
Congrats for overcoming those scary Undead in what must have been a nerve-racking final.
Just enjoy it. And remember you'll have to beat me next year to retain it |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 03:58 AM
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Sorry Pippy, have to disagree for some points about the organisation.
Emberbreeze=> as organisators, Trambi and I found that a lot of money for what we got. (specially for foreigners!)
I still cant imagine that they are still no prices for the winners exept a piece of paper ! Come on !
For foreigners, it is a lot of money for seeing less and less friends and a not 'good' (good tourny imho like: Dutch open, Spicky...) tourny organisation... well, i will be less sure to come next year believe me. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 04:48 AM
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The BB winner gets a free ticket to the next one. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 04:54 AM
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Doubleskulls wrote: Deathwing wrote: That said, I couldn't give a stuff about final standing (just W L D), but the rounds (inc the final) should have gone on Points/TD/Cas/Sports and not Points/Sports/TD/Cas. (Apart from anything else, that was naturally going to match up the people prepared to dish out max points!!!! ). If they fix that then I'd be happy enough with the scoring system.
If the TD difference is already factored into the initial score (as it was at the BB) then you should not have TDs as the next tiebreak as you are giving an advantage to high scoring teams. I'd agree with that. TD and CAS total would work out ok, although that might give teams like Undead who can do both an unnecessary leg up. Sportsmanship is at least team neutral for a decider but perhaps a little too subjective to be ideal. Maybe all three combined would work best?
In any case what is being used needs to be made clear in its own section of the rules pack so that everyone knows how it will work in advance. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 05:48 AM
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Mordredd wrote: There was a German there who would constantly cheat if you didn't watch him. And I mean on the level of walking through tackle zones and not making the rolls unless told to by his opponent or moving further than his MA, that sort of blatant cheating.
Even without that guy I think it is a good thing to generally keep it in players' minds during the tournament by having a score for it.
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No I didn't. He had ticket 101; the German I played was a great guy (ticket 102). I heard about him from one of the Danes I know and I think he or one of his friends played him early on but I'm not sure. He told me about him after the first round and again after the fourth.
I am the one with ticket number 101!
I had 6 really funny games and never heard any complaints from any of my opponents! I didn´t even play against you or any of the Danes. So I can´t see why you´re writing about me in this manner! |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 05:56 AM
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Mordredd: I give also a free place to the champion of my tournament, as this he can comeback next year..
Have to say that Venomous breath must ask for it between Resurection and BB42, that' s why now they think about it...
Anyway, a lot of money for not so much cos it is GW. That's what an enterprise do, earning money event on that kind of event. quite logical. But maybe too much imho. compared to non gw tourny where of course all the money is for the tourny and the players. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 07:02 AM
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PrinceMoranion wrote: Mordredd wrote: There was a German there who would constantly cheat if you didn't watch him. And I mean on the level of walking through tackle zones and not making the rolls unless told to by his opponent or moving further than his MA, that sort of blatant cheating.
Even without that guy I think it is a good thing to generally keep it in players' minds during the tournament by having a score for it.
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No I didn't. He had ticket 101; the German I played was a great guy (ticket 102). I heard about him from one of the Danes I know and I think he or one of his friends played him early on but I'm not sure. He told me about him after the first round and again after the fourth.
I am the one with ticket number 101!
I had 6 really funny games and never heard any complaints from any of my opponents! I didn´t even play against you or any of the Danes. So I can´t see why you´re writing about me in this manner! Well it is entirely possible that I was told the wrong ticket number, or got it mixed up myself, in which case I apologise for slurring your good name. But I don't believe the coaches were lying about this person's conduct, whoever it was. Their stories were far too detailed and consistent. |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 07:15 AM
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is there a list online where you can see all positions ? |
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Posted: May 11, 2005 - 07:30 AM
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I also had a crappy game on my game 6 (i dont remenber the name of the guy). But i know that Nacho played him also in game 5 in table 2 and it was also a nightmare.. Ancalagon played him one year before and same story... I hope i will never play him again. |
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