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Post subject: Kick-off question...
 Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 07:43 AM
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I was wondering if you can use a re-roll to pick up/catch the ball on the kick-off. Thanks for your response...
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Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 07:53 AM
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| Well, seeing as how you pick it up or catch it douring your own team turn, the answer is yes. |
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Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 08:09 AM
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| P. 7 of the LRB has the rules on that. The kickoff is actually before a team turn starts. If the ball goes directly to a player and they get a chance to catch it, they can't use a reroll because it's not yet their team turn. |
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Post subject: Re: Kick-off question...
Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 08:23 AM
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NodrogN wrote: I was wondering if you can use a re-roll to pick up/catch the ball on the kick-off.
Am I right in thinking it could only be a catch and not a pick up? Surely a pick up occurs when the player moves into the square containing the ball, and a catch occurs when the ball lands in or bounces into the square where the player is standing? |
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Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 08:45 AM
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| Yes, it would be just like catching an inaccurate ball. |
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Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 09:43 AM
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skummy wrote: P. 7 of the LRB has the rules on that. The kickoff is actually before a team turn starts. If the ball goes directly to a player and they get a chance to catch it, they can't use a reroll because it's not yet their team turn.
I understand the team re-roll not being used since it isn't the team's turn yet...but what about player skills like Pro or Catch? Would they be allowed to help grab the ball during the kick off? |
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Posted: Apr 03, 2003 - 09:44 AM
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| Sure, you can use skills when it's not your turn. The same game mechanic lets you reroll an interception if you have the Catch skill. |
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Posted: Apr 04, 2003 - 03:49 PM
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| On a blitz can you pick up the ball? I have been told the the ball is 'in the air' so you cant get it yet but i was jus wonderin? sorry to get off subject |
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Posted: Apr 04, 2003 - 04:05 PM
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The league I played in a few years ago played it so you could grab the ball on a blitz (damn those 1 turn TD gutter runners).
In my current league the ball lands at the end of the blitz turn, but before the start of the receiving teams turn. This means that you can position a player under the ball and catch it before he gets a chance to move. |
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Posted: Apr 04, 2003 - 05:40 PM
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The ball is in the air till the end of the kick-off sequence. Off the top of my head, the sequence goes like this:
1. Kicking team sets up
2. Receiving team sets up
3. Place ball
4. Scatter ball
5. Roll on kickoff table and resolve results. (this is where the Blitz would take place)
6. Ball lands, if it happens to land on a player he gets an opportunity to catch it. If it lands in an empty square it will bounce once.
So, to answer your question, NO! you cannot pick up the ball during a Blitz. All you can hope to do is position a player in the square where the ball is going to land since you already know where that is. You just better be ready to have him hit, surrounded with tackle zones and assists or he's going to be a sitting duck. |
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Posted: Apr 05, 2003 - 11:44 AM
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Isn't it between the ball scatters and the bounce that the kick-off isd resolved ?
We play like that anyway : ball scatters d8 and d6, Blitz (so you can pick it up) then bounce. It's as if the scatter is a rolling ball instead of being mid-air.
Doesn't happen often though.
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Posted: Apr 07, 2003 - 01:31 PM
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Here are the rules from the LBR:
"After both teams have set up follow this sequence in the order given; place the ball on the pitch, roll on the Kick-Off table, scatter ball, resolve Kick-Off results, bounce ball."
I guess it depends on your interpretation of the rules, but in our league we see it as the ball is actuallt scattered during the "scatter phase" and this is where the ball lands after the kick...then kick-off results are worked out...then if no one effects the ball's initial point of contact it bounces once. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2003 - 02:31 PM
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| The scatter shows the direction the ball is going. You can tell where it's going to land. The ball is still, theoretically, in the air during the kick-off resolution. It lands and bounces after you work out the results on the Kick-off table. If it didn't, you'd just bounce it before you resolved the Kick-off results. |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2003 - 02:34 PM
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| So with that interpretation, you can possibly get a players or two to the point where the ball is "going to land" and then make a catch roll when it finally comes down (before the bounce)...right? |
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Posted: Apr 07, 2003 - 04:20 PM
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This is another way we could interpret it. But I still think that the ball has just landed, since your blitz occurs in the meantime
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/ ---Blitz-------->| X
Kick, X ---------------------Landing, player can pick up, Bouncing
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