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Melifaxis
Post subject:   PostPosted: May 16, 2006 - 10:52 AM



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      Clan-Skaven wrote:

I say that all teams should be eligable for the 10 points for painting scores.

But if you did not paint your team you should not be in for best painted! (ya you still get points for painting just no awards for best painted)


That's how it works Very Happy

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 16, 2006 - 12:15 PM



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CyberHare... what are you doing? We had established a semblance of peace around here and now you re dissing the Holy Mecca for which we devout pilgrims travel to every year? Now you re really rankling feathers. Zinak s fury will be of Biblical ferocity.

Also SBG and his crew still have an invite on the table to crash with the Mafia.
 
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      Uthrac wrote:

I think what puts me off the most about the current painting rules is the depth . . . they really begin to read as criteria for a "painting award" than "encouragement to paint." I presume that the goal of "painting points" is to encourage coaches to bring a painted team. As Greg asked earler, have these rules encouraged anyone to improve the appearance of their team? [Not a rhetorical question . . .] "Representitive and at least 3 colors" seems sufficient painting guidelines to me, but that's my opinion.


Just catching up on the thread here. Yes, painting has encouraged better appearance. I know Tony was working to get his Norse up to minimal specs for ArisiaBowl. He didn't quite finish in time, but got some points for his effort. For myself, I've added some flocking weeds to my astrogranite painted bases for teams I bring to tourneys.

I think the GW just automatically carried the flocking thing over from their battlefield games that use model terrain and flocking looks good for those. For me, a painted base is just fine on a cardboard or astrogranite pitch.

As TO, I do like painting points to encourage a more festive playing environment for the benefit of players and spectators. At ArisiaBowl I always scored in favour of the player if I had a shadow of a doubt on painting. As for representative, I'll score that very loosely too as long as the figs look plausible. There was no question at all about Greg's Elves. It doesn't matter at all if GW has Drow or Paisley Elves or whatever -- they were elves. I'll score for representative as long as most people don't giggle when you try to explain what your team is supposed to be. Orc vampires and Goblin thralls? -- sure -- as long as the orcs have capes or fangs or something to look vampy. An ogre figure for a troll? -- if its painted with rocky-looking skin or some other obvious detailing that makes it clear it was intended to represent a troll on your team, sure. Dwarf figures as your overfed hirsute pygmy elves -- no.

As a practical matter, I like Rob's idea for requiring numbers, especially for any tourney that allows skills to be added. For ArisiaBowl next year, I will ponder streamlining the painting points down to the real basics for minimum appearance:
* 2 points: all figures painted with at least 3 colours.
* 2 points: each figure stylistically representative of their race. Conversions or painting details may be used to deliberately modify figures to suit the race you are using them for.
* 1 point: all bases painted or flocked.
* 1 point: each player's number visible on the figure or base.
* 0 points: additional detail painting on all figures (no points, but required for consideration for best painted team award).

Now for my non-rhetorical question: is there anyone we know of who is actually staying away from tournaments because they do not have or wish to acquire a minimally painted team? If so, I have a bunch of painted teams I'd be willing to loan out for the Brouhaha (or ArisiaBowl, or any tourney I'm at). With enough advance notice, I'll even try to make sure the bases get a bit of flocking in time.

Cheers,
Maureen

Bampf, please don't be so rude. Personally, I would prefer to see Dan and Greg come to the tourney. There's no need to bring up gratuitous hostility if you disagree with them.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 17, 2006 - 12:59 PM



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Wasn t me, it was Zinak.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 19, 2006 - 12:35 PM



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      bampf wrote:


Any word on that Fire and Ice sponsorship?


Not yet, but I popped them a reminder that I was waiting for a response.

Any other questions?

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 21, 2006 - 07:04 PM



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i hear the kings want their hand back..........
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 22, 2006 - 08:04 AM



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I hear a lot of former champions pine for lost glory Wink

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      Melifaxis wrote:
I hear a lot of former champions pine for lost glory Wink


Yep...poor Yzerman. Smile

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 22, 2006 - 12:57 PM



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Wow, remind me to be merciless if we play each other again.

Maybe someday you'll know what its like to win a championship, and can then experience the wooden spoon in a whole new light...

Razz

edit: fixed typo

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Don't worry...I have my Fallen Hero too. Scott Stevens was taken from me in a flash...no warning, no farewell tour...just GONE. :sigh:

But I digress...


Bring it Necro Boy...you have some vengance coming your way after our match-up at the first Brouhaha. (Or perhaps...that match was YOUR revenge for 1995.) Smile

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 28, 2006 - 07:35 PM



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Woooo! That thread went berserk in the last couple of weeks!

First: painting.

I agree with the painting rules. Bob, who played the Dwarven Kings last year, is a friend of mine and his team was spray-painted Black, and he still got points, which surprised me, but at the same time showed showed me how this is not a punitive measure. He knew it, and was looking forward a 0. Done.

Second: attendance.

Guys, I really thank you for the offers (staying with the Mafia, free tourney from the organizewr becuase I'm such a great addition to any tourney.... wait! Maybe that wasn't the reason!), but really, this year won't be good for me. It's really a pain and I will really have a bad weekend on the 17 and 18. But life had other plans for me this year I guess and I'll get back stronger next year!

Have a great tourney and I really hope I'll se you all at the Deathbowl this Fall...

Fred

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 29, 2006 - 09:21 PM



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just 10 points

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 30, 2006 - 10:54 AM



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No worries Fred, I'll delete you from the list and look forward to seeing you in the fall or next year Very Happy

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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 30, 2006 - 01:12 PM



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We ll catch ya next year SBG.

Does mean that there s a better chance of The Hand staying in the US where it belongs!
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: May 31, 2006 - 07:31 AM



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Same odds methinks. After all the good old US of A has a perfect record thus far Smile

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