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Post subject: ALTERNATE AGEING RULE
 Posted: May 07, 2003 - 06:56 PM
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In my league, these are going to be the ageing rules for the next season. I posted this to see if anyone else uses something similar and to find out the general opinion on the subject.
Below is an example of a Lion Warrior in the first game and also our Aged Table.
Example of aged rule ruining a player:
Rookie Lion Warrior first game scores four TDs and the MVP. Ageing roll for first skill, snake eyes, Nig. Second roll a one and two, another Nig. I know this is a rare thing but it has happened and will happen again, how does this even a side up? No It makes a 90k purchase an absolute waste.
The first two skill rolls should be exempt and the first ageing roll be a four or more.
Eg. Below table is our leagues next aging table.
SPP’s Title Ageing
0–5 Rookie None
6–15 Experienced None
16–30 Veteran None
31–50 Emerging Star 4+
51–75 Star Player 5+
76–125 Super-Star 6+
126–125 Mega-Star 7+
176+ Legend 8+ |
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Posted: May 07, 2003 - 07:48 PM
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Ex-Rulz Committee
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My 2 leagues just completely scrapped aging.
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Posted: May 07, 2003 - 07:53 PM
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| Hmm, well aging does make sense but I'm not really sure of a fair version, the current one does seem a little harsh... |
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Posted: May 07, 2003 - 08:22 PM
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| May be a good idea to take the results to the BBRC in October Galak??!! |
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Posted: May 08, 2003 - 02:53 AM
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this suits me fine but perhaps the ageing should start at 4+ at 31 and 6+ at 51
this gives you the chance to reasonably devellop your team AND cancelles out the loss of ageing effects when changing the table. |
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Posted: May 08, 2003 - 04:34 AM
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| ECBBL just scrapped ageing on the main competiton too. Personnally I don't have a big problem with ageing on 2nd or 3rd roll - but I've seen teams really screwed by getting unlucky ageing rolls early on (one player got -AG on both his throwers in one game). |
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Posted: May 08, 2003 - 04:55 AM
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As I said in the prev. topic..
Keep the rule, scrap the first two rolls....  |
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Posted: May 08, 2003 - 06:38 AM
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I seem to recall someone once suggesting a system based on how many times a player has been injured, rather than games played or SPP earned. I think it would fit better with the idea of a player picking up compounded injuries from too much play. Or should that be pain 
Maybe something as simple as keeping a tally of injuries (after apothecary/regenerate perhaps?) in the INJ column and making ageing rolls after certain numbers? Or make ageing roll after each increase if player fails to roll over their INJ number? |
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Posted: May 09, 2003 - 01:27 PM
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| I think that rule would push the balance to far in far of high AV teams, as they suffer less injuries than low AV (dodgy) teams. |
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Posted: May 09, 2003 - 04:31 PM
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Yeah, that won't work.
I think the current table is about the best thing that does work, only it's kinda sad to have your 1 comp + MVP thrower suffer a -1AG
The rolls should start little later (31+) but not on a 3+ then, perhaps 4+ at 31SPP and 6+ at51SPP |
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Posted: May 11, 2003 - 06:28 PM
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| I thought that having expensive players was the disadvantage for the AG Teams. So with the current rule you will need to retire Elves quicker because they gain SPP's quicker and are more expensive to replace. |
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Posted: Jul 31, 2003 - 08:32 AM
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Posted: Jul 31, 2003 - 11:29 AM
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We don't use ageing here. After 14-16 games per team, we have 3 players with 51+ SPPs among 8 teams.
The trick isn't finding the right ageing rules; it's finding the right combination of all the other rules that could influence team and player growth. Examples include fouling, match winnings, and the SPP table.
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Posted: Aug 01, 2003 - 02:51 AM
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Tutenkharnage wrote: We don't use ageing here. After 14-16 games per team, we have 3 players with 51+ SPPs among 8 teams.
 I'm glad to hear you are trying the "no ageing" option.
ECBBL has used that for the current season, but after 10 games it isn't enough to see what longer term effect is has. Hopefully by Xmas we will have some more useful data. |
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Posted: Aug 01, 2003 - 03:03 AM
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Even though I agree that other rules should be the main factor in keeping teams and their players in check, I have to say I like some sort of an aging rule to exist, albeit a very light one.
Something close to what Wadedidit suggested, perhaps add in some results that give aging a more of a "roleplaying" feel. Some negative personality traits etc. |
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