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GenCon Bowl 2005 - Indianapolis,IN,USA - Aug. 19-20,2005
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 Posted: Aug 19, 2005 - 03:15 AM
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Good luck to everyone. I hope that everyone gets there safely and has a great time. As Ken would say Woot!  |
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Posted: Aug 19, 2005 - 02:12 PM
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| Have fun guys. Hopefully both Rod and I can make it next year. |
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Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 07:57 AM
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Good tournament ... 53 players ended up playing ... a nice turn out.
Darthoir won Best Sportsman again ... and Xtreme won Best Painted again.
Wolfgang however did not win the tournament for the 3rd time in a row. He met in the final (5th) game the only player who had never lost a game after playing the last 3 years of GenCon .... my brother, Dennis.
Wolfgang's record at GenCon at that point was (10/0/1 W/T/L) ... TDs for/against (27-3)
Dennis's record at GenCon at that point was (8/4/0 W/T/L) ... TDs for/against (26-10)
A very tight game ... first half was grueling. Back and forth see-saw with neither team gaining the advantage. Late in the first half, the ball comes lose and bounces to Dennis's Kroxigor ... who roll a 6 to grab it ... and he's only 5 squares from the endzone. Wolfgang proceeds to surround the Kroxigor. Dennis tries to free him up ... but to no available. Wolfgang finally manages to knock down the Kroxigor ... but an Injury Time roll on the opening kickoff that took off one turn left Wolfgang with not enough time to finish a scoring drive.
Second Half ... Wolfgang has eliminated all but one of Dennis's Skinks so Dennis is fielding only 8 players and Wolfgang's Amazons are fielding 10. Dennis covers Wolfgang well and forces Wolfgang to a running game instead of a passing one. Eventually Dennis opens a whole big enough for his Tackle Saurus to get a blitz at the Amazon ball carriers and knock her down in Wolfgang's back field. The ball scatters to a Saurus who rolls the 6 to catch it ... he's 3 squares from the end zone and hasn't moved yet ... Dennis chooses to forego any 2 dice blocks on the 'zons to get the score ... 1-0 Dennis. Dennis has taken out 4 more Zons during his drive and 2 Skinks recover from KO, so its 10 Lizardmen vs 6 Amazons. Wolfgang has 3 turns to score the equalizer, he stages a quick pentration running drive and looks like he might be able to pull off the tie. Dennis has really only one chance of stopping the scoring drive. He covers the other Amazons with his superior numbers and has the Kroxigor blitz the ball carrier ... (Bonehead, GFI, GFI, 2 dice block for a Push) ... this moves the ball carrier into a position with the Kroxigor's Prehensile Tail and covering Saurus that means Wolfgang would need a 6+ to dodge the ball carrier to the tying run with 2 rolls (Dodge re-roll). Wolfgang cannot pull off the magic 6 and Dennis manages to take the title of GenCon champion after Wolfgang's 2 year run as Champion.
Now Wolfgang is getting married right before GenCon next year and will be on his honeymoon so he will not be returning next year .... Dennis might not be able to make it as well. So I hope to see a similar sized crowd next year.
Finally ... meeting JJ was great. He gave a very frank and honest Q&A sessions with no BS that I detected based on what I know from other GW-UK contacts I have. It was refreshing when he started the discussion with "I'll not dodge the fact that this has not been a great last year for Specialist Games".
I'm hoping to post more of his discussion points ... but one of the main one's was that GW is considering (PLEASE NOTE ... considering ... not currently creating) a new division of GW that would deal with just GW board games (ie Blood Bowl, Space Hulk, Talisiman, HeroQuest, and hopefully some new products). This was one of the possible ways that Blood Bowl might get more attention and budget money than it currently receives.
The other big surprise ... Blood Bowl is NOT the biggest money maker for Specialist games currently ... its 2nd to Inquistor. That was one of those facts that made me realize how Blood Bowl fits into the overall accounting of GW.
More to follow ... but that's the key stuff for now.
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Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 09:37 AM
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| Way to go Darthnoir and Xtreme! I missed you guys this year! |
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Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 07:03 PM
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well I made it to GenCon after all 
but had one of the worst run of games at tourney play. 3 wins and 2 ties with humans finished tied for fourth on game points with xtreme
I went 5 for 18 on KO rolls and was constantly playing down with players.
My thrower completed 2 of 3 quick passes....I stopped trying to pass after the 1 key failure.
My catchers caught 6 of 10 catch attempts and made 4 of 6 dodges...
so I basically was afraid to do anything with these guys.....
I also got called for time in my first ever tournament game due to the worst opponent I ever played. Worst attitude that is. I went up 2-0 and his good dice and my bad dice let him tie it up but he took so long and also went to take a crap during the game that I only got 6 turns in 2nd half with an attempt to score on turn 7 that was taken away from me.
I really wish I did better in my earlier games to allow me to play the better coaches at Gencon---Wolfgang and Tom's brother.... but my dice failed me and my opponents rolled pretty good. (I don't think any of my opponents failed any GFI's against me......)
I intend to take my frustrations out on Canada at the DEATH BOWL
It was fun to see the TBB crowd though: Galak, Lawquoter, Darthnoir, Torg, Ben, Cyberhare, Karllagerbottom, Jaylazer, OMM, xtreme-----always makes the tournies fun. |
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Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 09:51 PM
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Yeah, it was great fun, meeting all the people from TBB and this site who I never met before and to see those I met at earlier tournies. The social aspect is why I go to tourneys, I don't really care what my record is in the tourney, winning isn't the important thing. Ken knows Nuffle sucks, but he won't admit it. I wound up playing the kid who called the IP on Snots last year in my last game. I said to him before we started, "we aren't going to call IP in this game" and he agreed, but he did try to foul me twice on the last turn of the game. He seemed really pissed when I told him, "sorry, only allowed one fowl per turn", I'm sure he gave me the lowest sportsmanship points for that (though only Tom could verify this), but I did the same to him (gave him the lowest sportsmanship award)
Anyway, it was great to see Ken, Jim (OMM), Karl Lagerbottom, Ben, Gortek, and Jervis again and great to meet for the first time; Galak, Lawquoter, Xtreme, Darthnoir, Jaylazer, Val (don't know if he's NAF or not), and so many others I can't remember.
It was kinda expensive but a great time. Don't know if I'll be able to afford it next year, but if I can swing it and get the time off, I'll probably be back.
It was a very new experience for me as I never attended a BB tourney at a convention before, completely different atmospher than a stand alone tourney. If I go back next year, I'll definately be doing more things at the Con (when I'm not playing BB). |
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Posted: Aug 21, 2005 - 10:44 PM
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gken1 wrote:
I also got called for time in my first ever tournament game due to the worst opponent I ever played. Worst attitude that is. I went up 2-0 and his good dice and my bad dice let him tie it up but he took so long and also went to take a crap during the game that I only got 6 turns in 2nd half with an attempt to score on turn 7 that was taken away from me.
Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.
He never took a crap on me (not like that Torg you sick-o! ) but I needed 45 second turns for most of the second half just so he could agonize for 5 minutes over whether he was going to pass from this square or do 1 GFI or other trivial such things. Gaaah. I hate opponents like that. |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 06:14 AM
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snotsngrots wrote:
Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.
Can't be as bad as a guy I played up in Ottawa. I'd say my turn was done, and he'd stare at the board for 5 minutes. I wasn't even sure if he heard me say my turn was done and was sitting there waiting for me to make another move, I'd remind him, and he'd say "yea, I know."
So, after 6 or 7 minutes of agony, his brilliant tactic that he comes up with... "My lineman will hit your Ogre" with no assists.  I think once he actually hit with his Catcher. There is no emoticon that expressed my frustration at this.
Overall, sounds like it was a great tourney. I hope to be able to make it down next year. |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 06:22 AM
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snotsngrots wrote: gken1 wrote:
I also got called for time in my first ever tournament game due to the worst opponent I ever played. Worst attitude that is. I went up 2-0 and his good dice and my bad dice let him tie it up but he took so long and also went to take a crap during the game that I only got 6 turns in 2nd half with an attempt to score on turn 7 that was taken away from me.
Did he play Dark Elves. There's a REALLY SLOW DE player out there. R-E-A-L-L-Y S-L-O-W.
He never took a crap on me (not like that Torg you sick-o! ) but I needed 45 second turns for most of the second half just so he could agonize for 5 minutes over whether he was going to pass from this square or do 1 GFI or other trivial such things. Gaaah. I hate opponents like that.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 08:02 AM
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Since folks wonder about such things. When trying decide what to use at a tournament.
Here were the rosters for the winners at GenCon this year:
1st - Lizardmen - Kroxigor; 6 Saurus; 4 Skink; 2 re-roll; 3 FF
2nd - Skaven - Rat Ogre; 5 Linemen; 3 Gutter Runner; 2 Storm Vermin; 1 Thrower; 2 re-roll; 1 FF
3rd - Amazon - 4 Blitzer; 2 Catcher; 5 Linewomen; 4 re-roll; 4 FF; 1 Apothecary
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 09:14 AM
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I had a great time, although I was killed by skaven in the first round (NUFFLE and 1 major mistake on my part), coupled with a GREAT Skaven coach spelled doom. I came back to win my next four games in some really close and fun games.
As for the 5 game format, it went really well, and contrary to my first thoughts I was impressed with the times you run it.
Seems to me that only two real problems came up @ GenCon. 1st Slow players (it will happen), there is always a timer guys. And second table arrangements. It seems the BB doesn't receive much respect when tables are handed out. I am unsure if this is because we start Friday or simply bad management on there parts, either way, I will be offering to put in a word with the staff that is controlling the room, when I arrive on Thursday, as it is possible others including Tom may not arrive until Friday, let me know, I have no problem informing them of our numbers and the like, to try to get us all together.
I feel bad for Wolfgang, as I know how it is to be the top dog, and EVERYONE rooting for you to loose, I look forward to my opportunity to play him someday, darn I do have to win the first round for that.
I hadn't really looked over the rules, but with the new rules for Pitch Invasion, I can see a potential return with Elves for me, as I don't have to worry so much about losing so many players on a kickoff.
Anyways, Great Job Tom, I will continue to try to get my teams on the plaque.
And NAF REPs, the dice are way cooler this year, that pinkish color is for the birds.
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 09:27 AM
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| Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking? |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 09:38 AM
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There was Jervis....and me of course. 
Not to forget Wolfgang, 2 times GenCon Bowl winner.  |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 09:46 AM
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I had a great time at Gen Con as a whole and the tournament in particular.
Always good to hang with the old crew and the new faces. I'm struggling through work today with only 2 hours of sleep last night (not counting the hour we got while parked on the PA turnpike for a bad accident).
zarhan: I think I was your first opponent (Team name: Skurvy). That game was fun. Even though the score didn't show it you played well. That one mistake really made the difference in the game. Hope we can play again next year.
Melifaxis wrote: Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking?
I saw 5 stars there. Zug, Zara, Nobbla, and 2 Deathrollers. There might have been more but I didn't hear about them. |
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Posted: Aug 22, 2005 - 10:01 AM
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jaylazer wrote: Melifaxis wrote: Tom, how many stars showed up if you don't mind my asking?
I saw 5 stars there. Zug, Zara, Nobbla, and 2 Deathrollers. There might have been more but I didn't hear about them.
GenCon has allowed Star Players for 3 years in a row now. And in all 3 years not a single team with a Star Player has taken home any of the gaming trophies (1st, 2nd, 3rd/MVP, Most CAS, Most TDs, or Fewest TDs allowed). So after 3 years, I honestly believe that Stars aren't broken as long as your rules balance them out. Allowing them into tournaments at the one-off LRB 4.0 price is just fine IMO. I also like allowing Stars because in my opinion it makes the two Stunty teams viable for tournament play.
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