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 Posted: Feb 21, 2004 - 02:39 PM
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Zombie wrote: I believe you're talking about the FAQs in WD 182. I've got them on my computer, and they have nothing of the kind.
Whoops, you're correct, it was in the 2001 RR, which had the WD 182 (hey, only 5 out) as part of it. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 08:26 AM
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I think that it needs to be remembered that the throwing mechanism is not a perfect description of actual real life ball throwing. Many of the things that do happen in real life cannot take place during a BB pass action.
[Scattering into the crowd before the final position of landing is determined.
Intercepting the ball before determining where the balls flight path is or whether the pass was fumbled.
Only one player being allowed to try to intercept.
Players on the passing team not being able to try for an intercept.]
The whole thing is rather abstract, and to complain that it doesn't conform to real life is missing the point. |
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Post subject: funny
Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 09:27 AM
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Zombie when I disagreed with a BBRC member about the propper use of the Dirty Player skill (I think I stated I was skeptical of how Chet explained it. I NOW know understand it & accept it.) But back then you told me there was no point in being skeptical cause these are the guys who write the rules.
Now this is an official ruling on the ball scatter, & you argue it. Do you have certain rights or privleges as an NAF member that I do not? You are allowed to argue Official rulings, but I'm not?
You told me there was no point in being skeptical, if thats the way the rules are in my post on Dirty Player. So why is it ok for you to be skeptical on the current post?
Not saying I agree or disagree on the actual rules or your use of it Zombie, I'm just saying if you want your arguments to be heard & accepted, then don't be a hypocrite when others argue an official rule.
Thanks for your time.........Rod |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 11:16 AM
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Mordredd wrote: Scattering into the crowd before the final position of landing is determined.
It doesn't have to be this way. It sure hasn't been in any league i play in.
Mordredd wrote: Intercepting the ball before determining where the balls flight path is or whether the pass was fumbled.
Well, that rule is stupid as well, and we don't play that way. I also happen to know that MANY leagues house ruled this away.
Mordredd wrote: Only one player being allowed to try to intercept.
Well, that can easily be changed as well.
Mordredd wrote: Players on the passing team not being able to try for an intercept.
In real football, it would be stupid for someone on the passig team to try and intercept, beczause the most likely result would be to miss and tip the pass out of its trajectory, maybe even into the hands of an opponent. Besides, even if you did succeed, your team wouldn't be in as good a position as it would be if the intended receiver had it, because the play was called his way and the other players on the team are supporting him, not you. Try something like that in real football and your coach won't let you play for the rest of the season, i garanty it!
So where are the "many things that do happen in real life that cannot take place during a BB pass action"? |
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Post subject: Re: funny
Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 11:19 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote: Zombie when I disagreed with a BBRC member about the propper use of the Dirty Player skill (I think I stated I was skeptical of how Chet explained it. I NOW know understand it & accept it.) But back then you told me there was no point in being skeptical cause these are the guys who write the rules.
These are the guys you wrote the rules for the new dirty player skill, but they had nothing to do with any of the rules for the passing sequence. Those all date to 3rd edition and were written by Jervis alone. All they did here is answer questions about them, and if their answers contradict what the text says, i'm sorry but in my book the text has precedence. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 11:57 AM
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| But if they are saying that the answer that they are giving you is in the Anual, then would that not take pressidance? |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 12:48 PM
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These are people answering questions about a rule written by another person. They don't know what that other person thought. If the rules are contradictory, i'd rather stick to the original.
Of course, i'll accept any ruling from the BBRC that doesn't contradict the rule book. I'll also accept any ruling from the BBRC concerning rules that they have written themselves. But this is neither. |
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Post subject: well then...
Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:05 PM
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Can we have a member of the BBRC adress this rule?
I'm the Commish of the NFBBL, & other than the new Stadium rules, I'd like to follow, the Living Rule book as much as possible, so for my understanding can I have a BBRC Person please let me know what is the official rule?
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:10 PM
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Zombie wrote: These are people answering questions about a rule written by another person. They don't know what that other person thought. If the rules are contradictory, i'd rather stick to the original.
OK wait a sec...last time i checked Jervis was on the BBRC. Since the BBRC released the FAQs in the 2001 RR your argument is officially sunk... |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:12 PM
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| I doubt JJ had much to do with those FAQs. In any case, he's only one person out of 7, and not even the most influential of them. |
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They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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Post subject: Re: well then...
Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:13 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote: Can we have a member of the BBRC adress this rule?
I'm the Commish of the NFBBL, & other than the new Stadium rules, I'd like to follow, the Living Rule book as much as possible, so for my understanding can I have a BBRC Person please let me know what is the official rule?
Thanks Rod
chet, A.K.A. Tutenkharnage, already has...and yes, he is a member of the BBRC |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:17 PM
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Zombie wrote: I doubt JJ had much to do with those FAQs. In any case, he's only one person out of 7, and not even the most influential of them.
this is hilarious. you won't accept the BBRC's ruling because it doesn't come from Jj since he originally wrote the rules. i say JJ is on the BBRC and you say how he doesn't have much influence.
the head of the specialist games department...doesn't have much influence...really? i got 2 words for you...pro elves.
thank you for calling. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:25 PM
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| The head of the Fanatic department is not the most influential person in the BBRC. I stand by that statement. I won't tell you who i think is the most influential person because i don't want to stir an argument unnecessarily. |
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They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:29 PM
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| think what you want, that's still not really the point. JJ has said that the BBRC is now the final answer to BB rules. they have said stop rolling if the ball scatters off the field and roll a crowd throw in. that's the official rule. house rule it how ever you want and convince yourself that you are righteous and you alone know how the game should be played. the rest of us will stick to the official ruling...thank you for calling yet again. |
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Posted: Feb 23, 2004 - 01:33 PM
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| Where is the rule written? It isn't in any document i have and isn't available anywhere on the internet. Maybe we'll get lucky and they'll forget to add it to the pack when they finally do add the FAQs to the rules. |
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They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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