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 Posted: Aug 06, 2007 - 01:49 PM
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5 DB game? 3/3.5 turn limit?
why you want change a winning concept !? Brian tourney was very great..
for my part a final DB game is enough ( the board scrap the paint of my players )
sure i don't have play on the 1st table..
set a date, I be there !
(13-14 oct.?) |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 09:17 AM
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Manz62 wrote: 5 DB game? 3/3.5 turn limit?
why you want change a winning concept !? Brian tourney was very great..
for my part a final DB game is enough ( the board scrap the paint of my players )
sure i don't have play on the 1st table..
set a date, I be there !
(13-14 oct.?)
The Tournament date is the 20th and 21st October.
I agree about the boards scraping the paint of your miniatures. we will see what we can do to prevent this. We may have some new boards.
I understand what your saying about the changes and the exact format is not decided as of yet. However, the multiple games of deathbowl is currently the leading choice. The idea came out of a discussion of the rules of the actual deathbowl game. There was a strong feeling that the way overtime worked was not ideal and could take an inordinately long time to complete. Indeed the deathbowl game was very slow during regular time as well. So we decided we definitely needed a time limit for the turns in the deathbowl game. Once we had the time limit idea out there we realised we had an idea of how long a deathbowl game should take. 4 players x 16 turns each x 3.5 minutes a turn = about 4 hours for a game.
This doesn't really leave a lot of time for overtime if the last game is played on the sunday afternoon, so we wondered how we could get rid of overtime. Then we realised that if there was no overtime we could play quite a few 4 hour games over the weekend so why not make deathbowl a true test of your ability to succeed in deathbowl?
However for this to work we need to balance the way tournament points are awarded for deathbowl games. The system we have been working on alters the alliance part of the game a great deal.
Firstly, you are in direct competition with the player opposite you on the deathbowl board for tournament points. So if they score 2 TDs and you only get 1 you've lost, even if no one else scored!
This is a big change and now defence and attack need to be finely balanced, and no one will allow a "free TD" to their opponents under this system.
I will post the projected scoring system in minute.
This is the current format plan:
Saturday
DB game 1
Lunch
DB game 2
Dinner
DB game 3
Sunday
DB game 4
lunch
prizes
everyone gets home early |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 09:30 AM
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DBV tournament points
edited 21/09/2007
Result vs your direct opponent
Win = 3
Tie = 1
Loss = 0
Bonus points
Win the table = 2
Cause the most CAS on table = 1 |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 10:29 AM
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 10:40 AM
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| Looks good to me Joe. Always hate the fact that casualties are equal to td's in bonuses, but thats just me. Anyways, can't wait to play. Should be interesting to see the chaos involved in four teams beating each other senseless. |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 12:30 PM
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BB_Babe wrote: I've finished up my Ogre-sized pitch with 40mm squares and matching pass templates. You may want a few more of these on hand if anyone's making new boards.
Cheers,
Maureen
I look forward to seeing your board!
I'll keep you posted on what were up to board wise |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 12:33 PM
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Dwarfrunner wrote: Looks good to me Joe. Always hate the fact that casualties are equal to td's in bonuses, but thats just me. Anyways, can't wait to play. Should be interesting to see the chaos involved in four teams beating each other senseless.
I knew you'd mention the CAS vs TD thing.
I think the main role of the CAS thing is to give you something to play for if your getting spanked score wise. I don't expect many people who win big on their table, TD wise to get the most CAS bonus as well. I think the other players might want to take them down a bit personally..... |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 04:00 PM
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| OMG, you wanna play 3 DB games in the first day? Are we skipping the drinking in the evening and going straight to bed afterwards? Or maybe 2 x 6 turn halfs instead? |
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 09:30 PM
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twist wrote: OMG, you wanna play 3 DB games in the first day? Are we skipping the drinking in the evening and going straight to bed afterwards? Or maybe 2 x 6 turn halfs instead?
Perhaps 1 round of DeathCup with 7's rosters and 6 turn halfs? I have done up smaller 7's sized pitch for my Ogres too with 40mm squares:
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Posted: Aug 07, 2007 - 10:49 PM
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That won't be necessary! I revoke my comment! I'll play DB till midnight if it means no bloody 7s!!!!  |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2007 - 06:49 AM
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No 7's, pleeeaaase. 
For the first day, what about doing one game of DB, followed by one normal game, then another DB? Just a thought.
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Posted: Aug 08, 2007 - 08:06 AM
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Cramy wrote: No 7's, pleeeaaase.
For the first day, what about doing one game of DB, followed by one normal game, then another DB? Just a thought.
Marc-André
We are thinking of having a strict timer system on for the games. So at the set time the game just ends. Much more strictly enforced than at the CCKO this January
There is also going to be a turn timer for everyone as well = 3.5 minute turns.
this is how I see the turns working.
Saturday
8:00 am Registration
9:00 am DB game 1
1:00 pm Lunch
2:00 pm DB game 2
6:00 pm Dinner
7:00 pm DB game 3
11:00 pm Drinking
Sunday
10:00 am DB game 4 (nice late start incase people want to drink)
2:00 pm lunch
3:00 pm prizes
3:30 pm everyone gets home early |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2007 - 08:08 AM
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twist wrote: That won't be necessary! I revoke my comment! I'll play DB till midnight if it means no bloody 7s!!!!
I'm afraid there will be no more 7s due to popular demand.
I kinda like it myself, but I see what people have a problem with. |
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Posted: Aug 08, 2007 - 08:36 AM
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How is the play testing with the timer going? A 3.5 minute timer may be daunting for somebody who has never played DeathBowl and has to figure-out what the heck is going on while this timer is ticking. But I guess that's probably fine, as there will be 4 DB games, so lots of practice time .
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Posted: Aug 08, 2007 - 10:09 AM
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Ah, no love for the 7's 
Two years ago, the record setting 2-2-2-2 tie went into overtime. Using the 2 minute timer in OT rule that was in effect then, the OT round was a blast! Everyone was moving fast and furious, no one ran out of time on their clock. Sometimes resetting the clocks was just eating up extra time! Frequently, players that were away from the action were forgotten and not moved before a turnover, it was all part of the excitement. A 3.5 minute timer would be luxurious, and everyone will adopt real quick.
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