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Post subject: Quick question  PostPosted: Mar 23, 2004 - 12:20 PM



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Accurate pass not caught scatters to team mate and caught,is it a completion for the thrower. I think yes but just checking, thanks in advance for help.

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no. an accurate pass must be successfully caught by the intended receiver to get SPPs. your situation, while not a turnover, is a case of picking up a bouncing ball, not catching an accurate pass...more or less.

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LRB page 39
      Quote:
Completions (COMP): A player who makes an
accurate pass that is caught by another player earns 1
Star Player point. An accurate pass is called a
???completion??? or complete pass. Note that the ball must
be caught by a player from the same team, otherwise
it is not complete!


It never says it has to be the player the ball was thrown too. So technically the answer is yes it is a completion.

I'm not sure if that is the intent of the rule or not though.[/quote]

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      mikeyc222 wrote:
no. an accurate pass must be successfully caught by the intended receiver to get SPPs. your situation, while not a turnover, is a case of picking up a bouncing ball, not catching an accurate pass...more or less.


Sorry but you are wrong. An accurate pass that is caught by a team mate is an SPP. It doesn't matter whether the intended receiver catches it or not.

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interesting. i thought this had been argued before and it was ruled not a TO but no SPPs.

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There are lots of possible outcomes from a pass

1) Fumble - turnover
2) not caught - turnover, no spp.
3) Inaccurate & caught - no turnover, no spp
4) Accurate & caught - SPP & no turnover

I think that covers them all.

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You forgot these :

5) Accurate and intercepted - turnover and SPPs
6) Inaccurate and intercepted - turnover and SPPs
7) Fumbled and intercepted - turnover and SPPs

Stupid rule.

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Or as per the official rules

5) Intercepted (no pass role) - turnover and no SPP

I take it you did mean no SPP, because I'm pretty sure you don't get a completion when your pass is intercepted. Wink
 
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Yeah, Mord, I'm pretty sure, too! Wink

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      Zombie wrote:
You forgot these :

5) Accurate and intercepted - turnover and SPPs
6) Inaccurate and intercepted - turnover and SPPs
7) Fumbled and intercepted - turnover and SPPs


Just for the sake of nitpicking: point 5-7 can't happen as you have to roll for interception before the thrower rolls his pass roll...
 
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      Mordredd wrote:
Or as per the official rules

5) Intercepted (no pass role) - turnover and no SPP

I take it you did mean no SPP, because I'm pretty sure you don't get a completion when your pass is intercepted. Wink


I meant 2 SPPs for the interceptor.
 
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Well it was a bit off topic given that this is a thread on whether you get a completion SPP for a pass that is not caught by the intended receiver.

Try not to confuse the issue in future.
 
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What if the ball scatters in this instance back to the thrower or the player handing the ball off?

Still no turnover?

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If the ball is caught by a player on the moving team then there is no turnover. It does not matter who catches the ball: catcher, thrower or random other player there is still no turnover.
If the pass is accurate and caught then the thrower gets the completion SPP's. (Yes the thrower could end up with both the ball and the SPP's for the completion theoretically.)
 
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      ZFurelli wrote:
If the ball is caught by a player on the moving team then there is no turnover. It does not matter who catches the ball: catcher, thrower or random other player there is still no turnover.
If the pass is accurate and caught then the thrower gets the completion SPP's. (Yes the thrower could end up with both the ball and the SPP's for the completion theoretically.)


The last sentence is not correct.
"Completions: A player who makes an accurate pass that is caught by another player earns 1 Star Player point."

The ball must be caught by another player so you can't get a completion by having the passer catching their own pass. Rolling Eyes
 
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