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Post subject: More on blitzing...
 Posted: Apr 25, 2004 - 12:43 PM
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This is the situation: My bull centaur has the ball and is in touchdown range. The only thing he needs to do is a succesful blitz against an orc lineman, BUT to get to the endzone he needs to run through the orc's square. otherwise, he would have to move to tackle-zone covered adjacent squares. So, the  and  will work fine because they free the square. But the  is trickier. The orc does not have block, the bull centaur does.
The blitz result is  . Do I have to continue moving before the armour roll? Can I stop and roll the armour in the hopes of injuring him and then continue moving to the endzone? As a general rule do most NAF coaches roll the armour straight after the hit, once the blitzer has finished his movement or it depends in the situation?
I think someone wrote:
1 declare blitz
2 move figure
3 roll dice, apply result (including armour roll)
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Posted: Apr 25, 2004 - 01:45 PM
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| You should make the AV/Inj roll (and Apo roll if applicable) before continuing your move. |
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Posted: Apr 26, 2004 - 09:04 AM
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| You should always make the AV & Injury roll before continuing to move as the block is not fully resolved until you do so. |
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Posted: Apr 26, 2004 - 10:41 AM
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| May also create a path that requires no dodging on further moves. |
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Posted: Apr 28, 2004 - 10:50 AM
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Yeah, that is litterally 'running through the orc lineman'
you block the player down, roll for armour, and continue your movement after the armour (and injury) roll is made ... |
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Posted: May 03, 2004 - 10:07 AM
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Yeah, that is litterally 'running through the orc lineman'
you block the player down, roll for armour, and continue your movement after the armour (and injury) roll is made ...
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Posted: Jul 23, 2004 - 09:02 PM
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Ok...So just to confirm. A player needs to make armor rolls before deciding to follow up?
From what Double Skulls stated below, it seems that the entire block needs to be resolved before a continuing movement/following-up can be done. The entire block includes the armor, injury, and I presume possible Apotocary rolls as well.
Is this correct?
I am assuming here that Blitz Movement and Stationary Block/Follow-up to be the same for this discussion.
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Posted: Jul 24, 2004 - 10:12 AM
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| Correct. You need to resolve the whole block (pushbacks/av/inj/apo) before you can continue the move. |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2004 - 07:04 AM
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Well actually no, it's not entirely correct.
The sequence is:
1) move.
2) block.
3) pushback (or whatever other result is rolled).
4) follow up (if appropriate and/or desired).
5) scatter ball (if necessary).
6) roll armour/injury.
7) complete move.
It is clearly stated that you MUST decide whether to follow up BEFORE you roll for the armour. |
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Posted: Jul 26, 2004 - 10:13 PM
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| I'm not sure the order between 5 and 6 has ever been officially given. |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 - 04:43 AM
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Zombie wrote: I'm not sure the order between 5 and 6 has ever been officially given.
You may well be right. In my league we've always viewed it as you drop the ball when you fall over and you roll for armour after you fall over, hence point 5 is resolved before point 6. |
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Posted: Jul 27, 2004 - 08:42 AM
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Mordredd wrote: Well actually no, it's not entirely correct.
The sequence is:
1) move.
2) block.
3) pushback (or whatever other result is rolled).
4) follow up (if appropriate and/or desired).
5) scatter ball (if necessary).
6) roll armour/injury.
7) complete move.
It is clearly stated that you MUST decide whether to follow up BEFORE you roll for the armour.
In our league we play it 6 then 5. Because the ball can have a lot happen to it before it settles. |
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Posted: Jul 31, 2004 - 05:57 AM
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| We usually do armour first too - for much the same reason. SOmetimes makes a difference if the ball bounces off players as it can end up back where it was dropped by a downed player - who might or might not be there due to injury / KO... |
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Posted: Oct 02, 2004 - 09:34 AM
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Okay, now what if a ball is in a tackle zone? Can you blitz the guy first to remove the trackle zone (assuming that you are standing in the swaure with the ball? Or do you have to pick up the ball first (with the minus) and then resolve the blitz?
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Posted: Oct 02, 2004 - 10:05 AM
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If you're standing in the square with the ball, I think you have to pick it up first -- isn't it compulsory, like having to try and catch a ball that lands on your player?
Now, you could always try and blitz from the other side to remove the tackle zone on the ball, couldn't you? |
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