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Zombie
Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 27, 2004 - 12:39 PM



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Oops, you're right. Did this too quick and the +1 got me confused. Thanks for correcting me.

In any case, it's still nowhere near "3 times as good".

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 27, 2004 - 02:12 PM



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well dirty player needs to be a little clearer, i know it must be hard to get everything as clear as mud, but it could be written so you understand it better.

I know Dirty player has been toned down a bit, and thank god for that, it did in the past get carried away, and maybe its not as powerful as it has been in the past.

I have been playing Bloodbowl for a long time now and the rules are getting weirder and weirder with all the changes lately, however thank god that there are places like this to find out the proper answer.

Ta for the advice but in my personal opinion +1 to +3 is 3 times as good.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 - 04:37 AM



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I guess what you're saying is that the modifier to the armour roll is 3 times as good, not the chance of beating the armour which is what Zombie's been banging on about.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 - 02:11 PM



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Yes. The modifier is 3 times as good, but dirty player itself isn't 3 times as good as not having it.
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 - 02:58 PM



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Just for kicks, since the "3 times as good" horse isn't quite dead...

Odds of getting a casualty "out in space" vs. AV 8:

* Non-DP: 7%
* DP: 22%

Aha! So maybe it is three times as good Wink

(Sorry. Couldn't resist. I know the comments pertained to breaking AV rather than causing casualties. But the numerical coincidence was too great to pass unnoticed.)

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 - 07:08 PM
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LOL....

Now don't you guys go starting a good old BBCentral style "statfight". Very Happy

Ah...nostalgia....

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 28, 2004 - 07:24 PM



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You're right Chet. And i knew all along that if you accounted for the injury roll as well, things were much different. I actually expected it to be about 4 or 5 times as good then!
 
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      Deathwing wrote:
LOL....

Now don't you guys go starting a good old BBCentral style "statfight". Very Happy

Ah...nostalgia....


Hah! No, I'll try very hard not to do that. It was clearly tongue in cheek.

Besides, Zombie's right: +3 to AV is not "three times as good" as +1! At least, not in the way that he and I understand the "to AV" part of that statement.

-Chet
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Jan 29, 2004 - 02:47 PM



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Yeah. And even if you only consider the increase and not the whole thing, and even if you consider the increase as a value and not a percentage, it's still not 3 times as good. The first few points always give a bigger increase in your chances as the points after that, except if you're talking about players with an AV of 5 or lower.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Sep 08, 2004 - 02:33 PM



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Yeah I like that....a goblin with the 7 assists required to boot a treeman Cool
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 10, 2005 - 09:02 PM



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got a quick fouling question....
can a player who is stunned, be a victim of a foul action?????
the rules say the victim must be "prone".........therefore ,since you "change from stunned to prone",there is a contingent in my league hoping that being stunned precludes the"boot"....thanks(special thanks to those who don't call me an idiot for asking this Embarassed )
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 10, 2005 - 09:08 PM
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Well properly prone means face down - i.e. stunned. Supine means lying on your back (i.e. knocked down) so you can only foul players that are already stunned.

lol Smile Smile Smile

Its a very poorly worded rule. You can foul anyone who isn't standing up.

For future reference you should have started a new thread, rather than resurrecting one that is months old especially since its a different topic.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 10, 2005 - 09:21 PM



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thanks!
you've solved one debate!!!
undoubtably we will soon find something else to argue over (probably even lamer Laughing )
re: old thread--please refer to my nick Shocked
 
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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 11, 2005 - 12:56 AM



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well...everything laying in front of you on the ground asks for a foul Twisted Evil

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 11, 2005 - 03:31 AM



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Says the longbeard who's been caught "fouling" (aka failing to pick up) the ball!

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