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Post subject: Throwing Team-Mates & Turnovers
 Posted: Jul 11, 2004 - 06:26 PM
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Ok I'm finding what seems to be a condradiction in the rules.
LRB page 23
Quote: If the final modified score equals or beats the required roll, then the player lands on their feet and may take an action if they have not done so already. If the dice roll is less than the required total, then they fall over on landing & the opposing coach may make an Armour roll to see if they are injured. A failed roll does not count as a tournover unless the player was holding the ball.
LRB page 8
Quote: TURNOVERS
2.A player from the moving team is knocked down or falls over....
Now here is where I'm confused it states that if a player on the moving team falls over it is a turnover, but if a thrown team-mate falls over (without the ball) it is not a turnover.
I could not have the ball & fail a Dodge or fail a "go for it" & its still a turnover. So why is it not a turnover when a Goblin or Halfling (without the ball) is Spiked into the ground by its teamate Troll/Treeman. |
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Posted: Jul 11, 2004 - 09:35 PM
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| TTM is an exception to the normal turnover rules. |
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They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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Post subject: ok
Posted: Jul 11, 2004 - 09:39 PM
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| Ok cool. good to know, thanks! |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2004 - 02:23 PM
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My addendum to this is what about a fumbled TTM attempt. It isn t clear. Do the same rules apply? IE roll for armour, no turnover?
If so this has the odd effect of the fumbled player being dropped and then being able to act to get back up. Is that right?
We have a Halfling player in our league for the first time in a long time so all of these questions are coming back up. |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2004 - 02:26 PM
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"Any failed landing including fumbled throws or landing in the crowd does not count as a turnover unless the player that was thrown was holding the ball."
~LRB 3.0 page 23 last sentence on the page |
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Posted: Jul 12, 2004 - 03:41 PM
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| Wow, didn't know they changed this. Used to be that a fumbled TTM was a turnover... |
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They will slowly add bits of the vault in on each RR leading up to 2007, starting with LRB 4.0, so it will be a slow and agonising death for BB.
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Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 04:09 AM
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Well I don't think it had been officially decided before, so I think it's just been clarified rather than changed.
Somewhere here there's a BIG debate over whether various aspects of TTM are a turnover or not. I guess that those who argued that a fumble is not a turnover because a failed throw isn't and the fumble turnover is only for passing the ball won that one. |
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Posted: Jul 13, 2004 - 02:34 PM
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Mordredd wrote: Somewhere here there's a BIG debate over whether various aspects of TTM are a turnover or not. I guess that those who argued that a fumble is not a turnover because a failed throw isn't and the fumble turnover is only for passing the ball won that one. A correct deduction.
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