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Post subject: Fouling
Posted: Aug 15, 2003 - 08:12 AM
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Am I right in saying a Foul is classed as an action the same as Block, Pass etc. So only a player that has done nothing during the turn can move and then Foul?
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Posted: Aug 15, 2003 - 08:34 AM
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Da Warboss
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Yes you're right. Although fouling doesn't cost any squares of movement, unlike a blitz.
You CAN pick up or catch the ball and foul in the same turn though. |
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Posted: Aug 15, 2003 - 09:03 AM
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Thanks for a fast answer |
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Post subject: Fouling with Dirty Player
Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 01:06 AM
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If a person fouls with dirty Player do you add +1 for the foul & +2 for dirty player giving you a total of +3 to armour?
i had an argument with this guy and he said that you get +3 to the armour roll, how ever i think you just get +2 for the guy with dirty player and then any assists add more to it, i really can't see how you can get +3 to armour roll for one guy, so does that mean you can also add +1 to armour and then if you get thru with that, do you also add +2 to injury?
ta Jas
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 06:10 AM
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You get +1 for attempting a foul. You can then add your DP bonus if you need it to break AV, bringing the potential bonus to +3 for that player before any assists are added. If you don't need the +2 on AV, you can add it to the INJ roll.
Sorry!
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Post subject: really?
Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 08:33 AM
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That is the official way of how DP is done? All this time I thought it was just a +2 to the armour roll, (I just read the LRB) & sure enough it says +2 to the Armour OR Injury roll. Wow I have seen the light!
So its used the same way as Mighty Blow!
I'm still skeptical of the +3 to AR (+1(+)+2) Would it not just be a +2 instead of +1 to the AR roll? & if you beat the armour without the +2, then you add the +2 to the injury roll? |
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 09:29 AM
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It's +3 all right. Always has been. And how can you be "skeptical" when a BBRC member tells you how it is? They write the rules, they should know them! (Except for Jervis i guess, he doesn't know them!) |
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Post subject: no need to be sarcastic
Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 10:48 AM
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I see your point. |
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 12:26 PM
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Now thats interesting +3 to armour if you don't get thru on a normal roll, i would never have thought, it just seems like its a bit ova kill for the dirty player where a normal player gets +1, but a dirty player can get +3, i can understand how a player who has dirty player can be twice as good at fouling, than a normal player, but not 3 times as good, thats like having 3 assists.
However the rules are the rules.
now that thats cleared up.
cheers Chet
jas
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 12:39 PM
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It's like having two assists, actually. An unskilled player with two assists receives +3 to the AV bonus (+1 for attempting the foul, +2 for the two assists).
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 02:48 PM
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Besides, you're not 3 times as good at piercing armour. Against AV8 for example, an unskilled player without assists has a 21/36 chance of getting through using his +1, while the dirty player has a 30/36 chance. No way that's 3 times as good. |
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 09:45 PM
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Depends how you look at it, and not everybody has AV8, all i am saying is a normal player gets +1, and a dirty player has the option of +3, in my opinion thats 3 times as good as a normal player with out dirty player. However rules are rules, like i said before, just did'nt read between the lines.
I see a few other people did'nt know that you could add dirty player to the foul bonus, i guess we learn something every day.
Ta Guys
Jas
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Posted: Jan 26, 2004 - 10:00 PM
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It doesn't matter how you look at it. "3 times as good" is a mathematical statement that simply doesn't apply in this case. It's nowhere near 3 times as good. It's way better, i'll agree with that. But believe me, dirty player is not an overpowered skill. You don't get to use it all that often, and when you do, you can lose your own player for the game and suffer a turnover. Fouling right now is pretty much as balanced as can be. |
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Posted: Jan 27, 2004 - 06:01 AM
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Now is more "tactic". You only foul to the really important players of the oponent team or/and with your cheaper and more unuseful players. In this way, your oponent can lose more than you.
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Posted: Jan 27, 2004 - 06:29 AM
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Zombie wrote: Besides, you're not 3 times as good at piercing armour. Against AV8 for example, an unskilled player without assists has a 21/36 chance of getting through using his +1, while the dirty player has a 30/36 chance. No way that's 3 times as good.
Against AV7, those numbers are correct. Against AV8, however, an unskilled player without assists has a 15/36 chance of getting through. The DP has 26/36 chance of getting through.
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