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Baccuus2099 - Feb 14, 2006 - 09:02 PM
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Spike 2006 will be hosted by the Mississauga Oakville Blood Bowl [M.O.B.B.] league on the weekend of May 26th and 27th.

*Please note that this is a Friday and Saturday to accomodate Games Day. Games Workshop wishes the Spike Trophy to be presented on the Saturday.

The Friday will be held at the Bunker on Bristol Circle, Oakville. The Saturday will be held at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre on Front Street in Toronto. Please contact us for any assistance in directions.

We will be presenting times as the dates get closer as well as rules.
The price (as well as the price for Games Day admission) is $30 per player. NAF numbers will be taken at the tourney.

*We need as many people who are thinking of coming out to Spike to let us know for planning purposes. Two years ago there were 36 people playing in Spike so we'd like to get a minimum of 45! Please msg Baccuus2099 if you would like to be placed on this list..

Spazzfist - Feb 14, 2006 - 09:22 PM
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What will the hours be for the tourney on Friday?

Baccuus2099 - Feb 14, 2006 - 09:27 PM
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We are looking at 9:30 a.m. for the first games to get in as many matches as we can. The tourney is in May so most people would have ample time to book off the Friday with this much warning if they needed to.

Paul - Feb 14, 2006 - 10:08 PM
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can't make it if its going to be on a friday. I'm in school, and with planning to take time off for the North American Cup I can't take another day off.

If you make it Saturday/Sunday and the price isn't too expensive, theres a chance I might be able to make it.

Baccuus2099 - Feb 14, 2006 - 11:02 PM
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Unforately guys we don't have much of a choice about the Friday unless we want to go for a one day tourney.

Kolja_TBBF - Feb 15, 2006 - 05:06 AM
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How about Friday night/Saturday? Have a late evening on Friday with 2 games in and then 3 more games on saturday? Then people won't need to get off work.

Kolja

Spazzfist - Feb 15, 2006 - 07:13 AM
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You can probably count me in for this one. I can probably swing it either way - late Friday or all day.

AnthonyTBBF - Feb 15, 2006 - 07:56 AM
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Hmm, well I will try to be there, but the Friday thing is going to put a crimp in your plans for a big turn out.

However, the TBBF won't let these MOBB upstarts take the Spike trophy away from us Wink

Paul - Feb 15, 2006 - 08:04 AM
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ugh, someone played the TBBF card. Now I guess I gotta show up to help us keep the trophy.

I'm not going to commit yet, but I"ll see what I can do.

AnthonyTBBF - Feb 15, 2006 - 08:31 AM
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All it takes is for one of these monkeys to win one tourney and we'll never hear the end of it Very Happy

BTW - what is the total price for the tourney? Does the $30 include admission to Games Day?

Spazzfist - Feb 15, 2006 - 09:15 AM
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No worries Anthony, neither the TBBf nor the MOBB will claim the trophy. It will take it's righful place in Brampton, baby! Very Happy

But a good question, the $30 had better be it- personally I am not going to want to shell out another $100 for the GD.

AnthonyTBBF - Feb 15, 2006 - 09:21 AM
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If it's going to Bramption, that means it's Ben's trophy, and therefore TBBF's trophy Wink

Spazzfist - Feb 15, 2006 - 09:27 AM
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I think that Ben is going to be "unable" to make this tournament..... I will have my boyz see to it..... Twisted Evil

But even if he does, his luck has to run out some time! Wink

AnthonyTBBF - Feb 15, 2006 - 09:32 AM
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Them sounds like fightin' words!

Spazzfist - Feb 15, 2006 - 09:47 AM
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Sure are! (He says with one foot prepared to run in the opposite direction).

Baccuus2099 - Feb 15, 2006 - 11:17 PM
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Okay I'm taking down names and adding them to the list. Smile

BTW we tried for a late Friday however the poor guys at the bunker who would have to stay late are going to have to be up extremely early (I won't mention the time that was hinted *cough* 4... *cough*) to get Games Day ready the following day.
The MOBB is going to have it guys! Can't tell which team yet though.

Spazzfist - Feb 16, 2006 - 07:15 AM
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So what about the overall cost?

Is the $30 for everything, or is there an extra fee to go to the GD?

Baccuus2099 - Feb 16, 2006 - 05:26 PM
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Nope $30 covers both Games Day & Spike Smile

Sorry I forgot to add that in the wee hours of the morning.

Baccuus2099 - Feb 16, 2006 - 05:27 PM
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GW is providing all the prizes and other stuffs.

Xtreme - May 03, 2006 - 02:09 AM
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Is this still the plan for the Spike this year? Is there a website or any other information i'm missing out on. I'm thinking of a possible last minute trip to Toronto.

Clan_Skaven - May 03, 2006 - 02:36 AM
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Well if Xtreme is gonna make I guess I may show up (i want a revenge match from my 4-0 loss to him at the 2004 CDN open) Of coarse this all depends on $$$ & work

Rod

Xtreme - May 03, 2006 - 03:43 AM
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Its still a big maybe at this point.

Baccuus2099 - May 03, 2006 - 09:24 AM
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The spike is happening over Friday and Saturday (unfortunately), (wish it was Sat, Sun) I will be taking the extra names of ppl who wish to show up for it.
rules etc, will be posted below

Baccuus2099 - May 03, 2006 - 09:25 AM
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Spike! 2006 Tournament Rules

Things you NEED to bring:
1) Your fully painted team,
2) Two copies of your team roster,
3) A Blood Bowl board, templates, dugouts and block dice, (We cannot guarantee we'll have extras on hand)
4) A copy of the most recent Living Rule Book, (Available for free online at www.bloodbowl.net)
5) Pen or pencil(s),
6) Your NAF user name and number (if you are a NAF member that is). See below for more information.

Schedule

Since time is limited please be on time and ready to play.

Friday May 26th, 2006
10:00 a.m. ??? 12 noon Game 1
Lunch Break
1:00 p.m. ??? 3:00 Game 2
3:30 ??? 5:30 Game 3

Sat May 27, 2006
8:00 a.m. ??? 10 Game 4
10:15 am - 12:15 Game 5
Lunch Break
1:00 p.m. ??? 3:00 Game 6
3:30 p.m. Awards Presentation

Tournament Format

Tournament is played over Friday and Saturday. You will participate in a series of 6 games against different opponents. All games will be selected randomly with no repeating of opponents.
To keep on schedule, we would appreciate it if you could play at a brisk pace with no time wasting!
Each player has a special results form. Once each game is finished, you must fill in the form and hand it in to the Records Keeper. It is important that you fill in ALL the information, as this will decide your ranking and ultimately the winner of the tournament.

Scoring
After each game you will record the points earned by your team on the results form.
Points are awarded as follows:

Win 50
Loss 10
Tie 30

Bonuses:

???Blow-out??? (won by two or more points) +10
???Bag o' Wheat??? (caused most casualties) +10
???Keeping it close??? (lost by 1 TD) +10

Any ties in the final standings will be broken by TD difference and then CAS difference.

Painting & Sportsmanship

Painting

Tournament points will be awarded for team painting and presentation. Up to 10 points are awarded for team painting based on the criteria below. The tournament judges will evaluate each team based on these four criteria and not on the aesthetics of the team. This means that any painter of any standard can gain the maximum 10 points if he puts in the effort and follows the guidelines below.
The judge???s decisions are final.

Based - 2 points: All bases of the team including sideline staff are painted and/or textured in some manner.
Just being painted green is not enough!
Painted - 2 points: The team is painted. All models have at least 3 colours on them. Undercoats of primer
must not be visible.
Detailed - 2 points: All models have had the details painted in a variety of colours or with noticeable effects.
This can be shading, highlighting, etc. This discriminates between the merely painted team and the team that has
attention paid to it.
Representative - 4 points: All models on the team are representative of the race and position that they are meant to portray. Extra weapons that are not part of a finished and painted figure should be removed. This does not mean that you must use official Blood Bowl miniatures, only that an Ogre should look like an Ogre, a dwarf should look like a dwarf and so on.

IMPORTANT: In order to get the points all models in the team must fullfill the criteria. If even one model fails the points will not be awarded.

Sportsmanship
After each game, you will award your opponent 1 - 3 sportsmanship pts. based on the following criteria:

3 pts - Your opponent was an exceptional and sporting opponent. He did not endlessly argue about rules, tactics, he reminded you about your turn counter every time, let you reconsider moves, etc.
2 pts - A good opponent, neither great nor terrible.
1 pt - Not an enjoyable person to play against. Argued every single contentious point for the sake of it. Didn't go out of their way to make the game painful, but it was not an enjoyable experience.

Tournament Rules

Rosters
Coaches have 1,000,000 crowns with which to build their team. All normal team-building rules apply.

Official Tournament Teams
Any Team listed in the current Living Rule Book (LRB 4.0) may be used. Team stats may be downloaded from www.bloodbowl.net.

Star Players and Wizards
Star players are not permitted.
No wizards will be allowed, with the exception that the Halflings may purchase a Chef for 150,000 gold crowns.
Undead coaches may argue the call, but may not raise the dead.

Team Building
After every game the tournament Commissioner will roll 2D6, the result will be awarded to 1 member of your team (your choice).
Players may only take skills from their available skill categories, unless doubles are rolled. You may not stack additional skills on 1 player.
This system replaces the league and star player point system in the Blood Bowl handbook.

Casualties
All casualties that have been inflicted on your team, including death, are wiped away at the end of each game.
In other words the team resets after every game (excluding skill rolls).

Dice
All D6's and D8's will be supplied by the tournament organizer. Coaches will not be permitted to use their own D6's or D8's.

NAF
The NAF is an international Association of players dedicated to Blood Bowl - Games Workshops game of fantasy football.
NAF's goal is to act as a central resource for Blood Bowl coaches the world over - offering news, contacts, discussion, sanctioned tournaments, and international player rankings.
Whether your planning your own tournament, looking for a league, or just wanting to catch up on the latest from the world of
Blood Bowl, NAF HQ aims to provide everything you will need. Sign up now and get a set of Official NAF Block Dice!!
(Rumour has it that they are luckier than normal block dice, but officials can neither confirm nor deny this!) This tournament is NAF sanctioned which means that ANY matches that you play against another NAF member will count towards your overall ranking.
It is worth noting that matches against non-NAF members do not count towards your ranking as there is no way of judging the quality of an "unknown" opponent.

IMPORTANT: If you are a NAF member, please remember to bring your user name and NAF Number with you to the tournament.

NAF Membership is $10 USD per year and may be purchased at www.bloodbowl.net.

Prizes
There will be prizes not only for the tournament winners, but also for painting, sportsmanship, and anything else we can think of!

Notorious_jtb - May 03, 2006 - 09:35 AM
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ok so where do we sign up??

Baccuus2099 - May 03, 2006 - 09:37 AM
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Notorious_jtb wrote:

ok so where do we sign up??

Just give me your name, and Naf ID # and yer all done!

I will be collecting the entrance Fees on Friday at the Bunker in Oakville

Clan_Skaven - May 03, 2006 - 10:27 AM
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suplied dice (so no dino dice, cool) Wink

please tell me it will be living rule book 4.0, & not a confusing as heck bull**** vault messed up garbadge new rules.

If its not 4.0 rules .......

I'll be at the bar, I save ya a beer! Rolling Eyes

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 03, 2006 - 01:44 PM
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Okay, I think you can count me in for this one!

A couple of questions about the rules which will help me to decide which team i will be bringing:

1) So the teams get any skills before the tourney starts? (e.g. one regular skill for the team captain)

2) Will mutation count as regular skills for the Nurgle team (screw the chaos and Skaven, all I care about is Nurgle! Wink

)

3) If Clan-Skaven shows up, can I dock him sportsmanship points if he keeps up with his wretched Guiness farts on the second day of the tourney? Laughing

Thanks,

Spazz

Paul - May 03, 2006 - 01:51 PM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

Notorious_jtb wrote:

ok so where do we sign up??

Just give me your name, and Naf ID # and yer all done!

I will be collecting the entrance Fees on Friday at the Bunker in Oakville

GW Canadas website says that you have to contact them for tickets for the spike. Is this an error on their part? If I go on friday I don't want to get hassled by GW Staff when I show up at Games Day on Saturday.

Taxal - May 03, 2006 - 02:42 PM
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ok....

i contacted gw about friday and they told me that it will not count for the spike on saturday.
i bought my ticket from gw and was told the friday games are just for fun and all teams will reset for saturday.
i think there is some serious problems between gw and the miss. blood bowl group.
so who is running the tourney... gw or mississauga bb
there is no way for me to get to toronto for friday.
man this sucks.
what is the official word on all of this

taxal

Kolja_TBBF - May 03, 2006 - 03:19 PM
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Ahhh taxal, that's hilarious in a really sucky kind of way.

I'm moving on Saturday and so will not be able to attend. Actually, I work on friday and so will not be able to attend any Wink

Kolja

Paul - May 03, 2006 - 03:25 PM
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Taxal wrote:

I don't know what the official word is, but I got a few unofficial words for ya about it. This might not be the correct place for those as I do not wish to offend anyone involved in orginizing the event.

Trojan65 - May 03, 2006 - 03:39 PM
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wow what a load of sh** this is, seriously. I called direct services, and the only info they had was that it was going to be the 3 games on the saturday.... and now its posted in here that its going to be the friday and the saturday, AFTER i spent some cash to buy my ticket....

If GW thinks its cool to just book off a day from work, then I hope they're payen my lost wages....

I love bloodbowl, and I REALLY want to be in the spike tournay * points to ticket* but taken a friday off is not cool, specially when the details you guys were given out were different.

Ah well, good luck to anyone who goes, or baccus let us know the final call

Marc

Spazzfist - May 03, 2006 - 03:58 PM
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For the record I would not believe a word that GW has said. The people there do not know what the hell is going on, and no offense to any one individual, but the whole place is suffering from a serious lack of communication and high staff turnover doesn't help the problem any.

My guess is that it is as the MOBB boys have stated it to be, and that the GW staff have no clue what they are talking about. It wouldn't be the first time!

But having said that I too would like some clarification......

Trojan65 - May 03, 2006 - 04:02 PM
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Its up on thier website now, under the news section, and then under gamesday, its bascially an exact copy of what baccus said when he put up the schedule, 3 games on friday, 3 games on saturday, all through the day...

Spazzfist - May 03, 2006 - 04:04 PM
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Hey Paul, sounds like you are coming after all? Seem to recall hearing that you weren't coming - thought it would make my winning the whole thing that much easier! Wink

Paul - May 03, 2006 - 04:20 PM
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Spazz, I'm probably not coming. There are a few people who are interested and if I can get a ride to the event (cause I'm down in the hart of TO) then it might sway me over.

I don't have to worry about the Friday, cause I'm not in class that day, but honestly, GW couldn't find their head with their hands and your help.

Right now, I'm not going, I might go. I might take of for Philly again (have some unsettled business down there) for the Phrakus (I think they're the same weekend) or I might head north to Ottawa for Cangames, or I might just stay at my appartment and drink beer. Honeslty, any one of those four could happen.

Paul - May 03, 2006 - 04:54 PM
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Question abotu the rules to Barracus

You say in the post above that you will play 6 games. But on the download from GW's website, you say that there are 3 games, and the friday games are just a Spike "primer"

which is it?

Spazzfist - May 03, 2006 - 07:46 PM
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Paul,

There is a GO train that comes up right by my place here in Brampton. If you wanted to catch that one in time for me to pick you up and drive you to the tourney, I will be more than happy to do that (provided that you throw any game that we play! Wink

)

Spazz

EDIT - I could probably also clear it with Mrs. Spazz to have you stay the night to make transportation to the Saturday event easier.

Paul - May 03, 2006 - 08:48 PM
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I'll see what I can do Spazz, Schools pretty busy too, so I might have to do some responsible stuff. I'll be in touch though.

Paul

Xtreme - May 03, 2006 - 09:22 PM
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Wow, i'm almost sorry I brought this up now.

KarlLagerbottom - May 03, 2006 - 10:11 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

Wow, i'm almost sorry I brought this up now.

YEAH...you and Paul should both come down to the Phrakus to make up for it! Smile

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 01:08 AM
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BEER
ya I'm drunk again! GW run a respectable organised BB tournety? GW do anything without contradicting themselves?

Rod

BEER,BEER,BEER

Taxal - May 04, 2006 - 09:59 AM
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I contacted Craig Bodycote at Gw and he said the Friday part of the tourney is not going to count at all for the Spike. They are only doing an extra day for the NAF. Now with this I will still be attending with my wife
( Brie ) and two buddys. With that I hope it will go off without any problems Laughing

See you all there.

Taxal

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 11:24 AM
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Taxal wrote:

See you all there.

Taxal

I'm no longer drunk (for now Embarassed

)

So how many games total? 3 for friday 3 for saturday?

The SPIKE is a MAJOR & its being decided with 3 games?

If this is right count me out , GW takes something good and breaks it (GW would reinvent the wheel to a square! )

Oh well, I guess I will never get my BB fix in (unless I make the Pharkus)

Rod.

Paul - May 04, 2006 - 11:42 AM
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I don't think this Spike counts as a major does it? I really don't think that a 3 game tournament should count. I vote we make the Deathbowl a major again for 2006, and then look at the Canadian Open for a major in 2007.

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 11:51 AM
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Paul wrote:

I agree with you on that, .....

I'm just saying orriginally there was to my knowledge 4+1 Major Tourneys

BLOODBOWL =England
CHAOS CUP =USA (Chicago)
DUNGEON BOWL =Germany
SPIKE =Canada (Oakville)
+
CANCON =Australia

They were suposed to be as I thought always Majors? (From what I have heard The Chaos Cup has been the typical GW joke & it looks as if the Spike is going that same route.

All the more reason to start getting my tourney going (some day)

Rod

Xtreme - May 04, 2006 - 12:14 PM
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Compared to Spike the Chaos Cup looks great.

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 12:24 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

Compared to Spike the Chaos Cup looks great.

I'm not saying its not, but from what I heard (could just be hear say) but I heard the Chaos Cup was not as successfull as desired.

Rod.

Da_Scum - May 04, 2006 - 12:46 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Xtreme wrote:

Compared to Spike the Chaos Cup looks great.

I'm not saying its not, but from what I heard (could just be hear say) but I heard the Chaos Cup was not as successfull as desired.

Rod.

Well of course as for years it's up against the Gencon bowl hosted by the tallest ref in the world....and that means all the fun people are there, not at the chaos cup. Razz

And how many years has Galek argued that they should just put the Chao Cup there at Gencon where it will get enourmous attendence and support? Very Happy

...but then again when was the last time any of us listened to someone in a Zebra costume.... (..."What you mean you call that a foul?!?"...) Rolling Eyes

Spazzfist - May 04, 2006 - 01:12 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

If this is right count me out , GW takes something good and breaks it (GW would reinvent the wheel to a square! )

I wuld still not listen to them. Craig Bodycote is just another GW voice, and not one that I would be in a hurry to trust or listen to.

Rod, come down for the games, not for the major status. it will be fun either way. Just think, thnis way you can lose as much as usual, but it won't hurt your ranking any! Laughing

Seriously, it would be good to have you out for this one.

Spazz

P.S. Is anyone still roganizing this thing from the MOBB? Are they going to get back to me about my questions?

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 02:15 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Are they going to get back to me about my questions?

1) No, that or any other form of contact with a Skaven or any other Vermin is strickly against the Laws of the New World.
2) No, having a Goblin & a Kroxigor mate would not work. (& why would you ask that?)
3) Yes, if you really want to you can donate all your match winnings to the Save the Spike Fund. (but you never get winnings)
4) Not sure on this one we will get back to you...

Razz

Rod

Spazzfist - May 04, 2006 - 02:54 PM
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Are you drunk again Rod? Rolling Eyes

Taxal - May 04, 2006 - 02:54 PM
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Well like I said before,

Brie and myself will only be there for the Saturday portion of the tourney. We cannot take Friday off and are only leaving Friday night from Montreal.
Sorry about that guys and gals.

My vote is for Death Bowl to be a major again. Brian does such a kick ass job on it, that he deserves it for all the hard work.

Taxal

Spazzfist - May 04, 2006 - 02:55 PM
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Taxal wrote:

My vote is for Death Bowl to be a major again. Brian does such a kick *censored* job on it, that he deserves it for all the hard work.

I, without hesitation, would second that.

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 02:57 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Are you drunk again Rod? Rolling Eyes

Not yet....

But man whats up with those Questions? Confused

Rod

Spazzfist - May 04, 2006 - 03:05 PM
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What about you being drunk? Or the mutations and pre-tourney skills?

Clan_Skaven - May 04, 2006 - 03:10 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

What about you being drunk? Or the mutations and pre-tourney skills?

I have never mutated while drunk, & if I did I have no idea how skilled I would be before, during, or after the tourney!

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 04, 2006 - 05:38 PM
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Hey buddy, with your tourney record, playing drunk couldn't hurt! Laughing

Sorry - couldn't resist.

Clan_Skaven - May 05, 2006 - 01:16 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Hey buddy, with your tourney record, playing drunk couldn't hurt! Laughing

Sorry - couldn't resist.

How do you know I already haven't Wink

I have played hungover a few times! Rolling Eyes

Rod

Ben - May 05, 2006 - 07:19 AM
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I think every Sunday at the Deathbowl i've played hung over.

It's Montreal, what do you expect.

Clan_Skaven - May 05, 2006 - 09:54 AM
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Ben wrote:

I think every Sunday at the Deathbowl i've played hung over.

It's Montreal, what do you expect.

I have been a good boy the last 2 yrs for the Montreal Saturday night during the DB (gone back with cyberhare & others to a restaraunt) this year I think I'll join the drinkers!

Rod.

CyberHare - May 05, 2006 - 10:22 AM
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As far as I can tell The Spike isn't even a NAF registered event let alone a Major. As far as granting it major staus is concerned I'd be hard pressed to find a good reason for such status.

If we want the DB to be a Major again this year we'll need to decide soon as I'm about to ramp up the media machine for the event in the coming month. I'd make both the Canadian Open and the DB majors. The problem with switching back and forth is the length of time between events. Say for example we have the 2006 DB a major and then the 2007 Canadian open a Major. That will mean we'll have to wait a full 18 ish months before the 2008 DB rolls around before we see a Canadian Major again Shocked

Clan_Skaven - May 05, 2006 - 10:25 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

Well if you had to vote one of these 3 tournies as a major SPIKE, Canadian Open, Death-Bowl? My vote is the Death-Bowl!

Rod

Spazzfist - May 05, 2006 - 10:33 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Well if you had to vote one of these 3 tournies as a major SPIKE, Canadian Open, Death-Bowl? My vote is the Death-Bowl!

As far as I am concerned, the Spike! should not even be in the running right now. There is too much controversy surrounding it. The name alone should not justify a major, and we should not let GW dictate it's terms to us.

Furthermore, no disrepect intended towards the MOBB boyz, but I have trouble giving major status to a group that is running their first tournament. The Deathbowl is a proven tournament of a very high standard. The Deathbowl is a tournament that other tournaments should be measuring themselves up against.

VOTE DEATHBOWL FOR MAJOR!

Spazz

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 03:16 PM
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Taxal wrote:

The Friday Games ARE a Part of the six game series for the Spike Tourney!!!
GW is MESSING THINGS UP ROYALLY for Me (Commish Of Da MOBB).

The rules that I posted are THE OFFICIAL RULES for the TOURNEY, and what happens on the FRIDAY is part of the tournament!! I am in charge of this and the GW reps Doesn't know that much about B-Bowl tourneys (THIS is his first year with it)

Paul - May 06, 2006 - 03:19 PM
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Ok, but the rules that they have for download say that you only play 3 games. So thats causing some confusion as well.

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 03:25 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Taxal wrote:

See you all there.

Taxal

I'm no longer drunk (for now Embarassed

OKAY this is starting to get me REALLY peeved. THIS IS THE FINAL SAY ON THE MATTER FOR ME ABOUT THIS
1) THANKS For bringing this all to my attention
2) SPIKE IS BEING HELD OVER TWO DAYS AS I POSTED EARLIER.
3) MOST OF THE PPL AT GW DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON BECAUSE IT IS BEING HANDLED BY COREY BURNS AND MYSELF. ANYONE ELSE WHO TRIES TO TELL YOU ANYTHING ABOUT THIS DOESN'T KNOW IF THEIR ARSES ARE PUNCHED, REAMED , OR DRILLED.
WHAT I HAVE POSTED IS THE OFFICIAL RULES FOR THE SPIKE.

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 03:34 PM
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Ok, but the rules that they have for download say that you only play 3 games. So thats causing some confusion as well.

Do I have to mention that most ppl at GW wouldn't know how to find their arses if their heads were stiking out of them??!!

The rules were agreed upon by the GW rep for this tourney and myself!

This is NOT my first tourney I have hosted before (just not B-Bowl).

I plan on making some very large corrections for the tourney next year (ie having it sta/sun for starters)

GW Rep and I have spoken about the whole Fri/sat thing and he didn't know enuff about a major tourney to properly schedule this event. I apologize for this, hopefully next years will be better

Paul - May 06, 2006 - 03:48 PM
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I'm still not sure that this is a major tourney. And the rules that I am referring to were the ones apparently written by you since they have your leagues logo at the top, it definatly doesn't look like something GW has done.

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 04:03 PM
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I'll go look at them myself (now that I gots my keyboard back).

All I know is that Corey (the GW tourney Rep) and I( agreed on these rules and he said he was gunna post em.
If it was tweeked before posting I have no idea.

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 04:25 PM
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okay now!
That was not what I gave in!

What I gave in for the rules is what I posted to you all.
I AM going to be talking with Corey on Monday, and I will get this all sorted out.

I am now OFFICIALLY PISSED, and this matter will be looked at by me.

The Tourney is 6 games (3 & 3 as I posted).

There IS NO PRIMER, I know how a BB tourney is supposed to be held, and it WILL BE HELD in Traditional format, I will make sure of it!

Kevin

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 04:32 PM
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You guy's are cocky Laughing

"Never Underestimate an appoint"

Wolfhowl - May 06, 2006 - 04:33 PM
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This is going to be a SIX game tourney, so never fear about that.

We all know that having it start on a Friday will Fudge most people over, but there is nothing that can be done about it at this point.

Next year, things will be done much better. (like cutting GW out of it all together, if we can)

And Spike is still considered a Major tourney.

Wolfhowl
MOBB

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 04:33 PM
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I never underestimate an opponent. And why am I cocky??

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 04:35 PM
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Not YOU man them

Spazzfist - May 06, 2006 - 04:59 PM
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So what about the mutations being being regular skills and the pre-tourney skills? Are those in effect or not?

That will affect my choice of which team I bring.

Baccuus2099 - May 06, 2006 - 05:05 PM
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Any mutations will be the same as league matches, on a doubles roll you may take a mutation. We are following the Standard team rules in the LRB 4.0.

All teams will be TR 100 to start, with a skill roll being made between matches. You may apply this skill roll to ONE player on your team. If a dub is rolled then you may choose a Mutation or Trait as in the LRB.

Spazzfist - May 06, 2006 - 05:08 PM
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Okay, thanks for responding. Just had to ask, because some tourneys are not allowing mutations for chaos and Nurgle teams as regular skills to promote the appearance of these teams in tourneys without overbalancing (which is why mutations are not regular for skaven).

But that answers it for me.

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 06:59 PM
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I have to teames. I know I can use only one, but do I have to use the one I've already bin playing for my leag maches?

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 07:00 PM
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AHHHHHH!!!! tow

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 07:00 PM
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Ahhhhhh! creas my dad spelling

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 07:01 PM
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BAD

Spazzfist - May 06, 2006 - 07:38 PM
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Uhhhh..... yeah.

Just wanted to clarify something here: is this tournament NAF approved? It is not listed amongst the approved tournaments from what I can see.

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 06, 2006 - 07:57 PM
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I don't know about if anyone else has noticed this but I do not see this tourney in the NAF upcoming tourney list .....

So this isn't a NAF approved Tourney? Or have I missed something? If it is, or it is supposed to be a NAF registered tourney why is it not listed as an official NAF upcoming tourney?

I mean its kinda hard to believe that this is a MAJOR Tourney if its not even posted as an Official NAF tourney.... Confused

Rod.

HarryPotter - May 06, 2006 - 08:39 PM
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Hmm.. I don't see it ether... I'll give him a call

Spazzfist - May 07, 2006 - 07:35 AM
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Well Harry Potter is on the case! We can all rest easy now! Wink

Spazzfist - May 07, 2006 - 07:38 AM
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Maybe we could get Ben or Cyberhare to inform the ignorant here (me in this case) what is required to make a tournament an "official" NAF tournament? Obviously it would have to be approved. But I have also heard that you have to have an official NAF rep there to ensure the tournament is legit. Is this true? If so who is the rep attending this tourney?

The questions keep coming.....

Baccuus2099 - May 07, 2006 - 09:33 AM
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I will have all the answers on Monday, after I get some I will be posting here to inform everyone of what is going on!!!

Blank_Page - May 07, 2006 - 07:01 PM
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Do we have to participate in Fridays "primer" round?

CyberHare - May 07, 2006 - 07:24 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

As far as I can tell The Spike isn't even a NAF registered event let alone a Major. As far as granting it major staus is concerned I'd be hard pressed to find a good reason for such status.

That's ok. Don't read my posts Wink

At this point getting it sanctioned will take an ok from Woody.

Spazzfist - May 07, 2006 - 09:36 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

That's ok. Don't read my posts Wink

Sorry man, but so much of what you write turns into "blah blah blah" for me! Wink

Missed that one - guess it was 'cause Rod was right after and I always look forward to reading what that big meathead has to say - especially when he is drunk!

Be curious to see how this whole thing turns out......

Clan_Skaven - May 07, 2006 - 09:38 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

CyberHare wrote:

That's ok. Don't read my posts Wink

Sorry man, but so much of what you write turns into "blah blah blah" for me! Wink

I heard your "curious" about many things..... Shocked

Rod

Spazzfist - May 08, 2006 - 07:11 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

I heard your "curious" about many things..... Shocked

Don't believe everything that Talons tells you. He just wishes is all.

Ben - May 08, 2006 - 09:47 AM
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Well i wouldn't mind perhaps attending this tourney because i am in serious need of a BB fix.

So if some of you guys from TBBF are thinking about coming then your more then welcome to crash at my place and we can get some league games in until the wee hours of the night on Friday with some pizza and beer.

Sounds good to me. Let me know whos interested.

I have lots of room in the house but not very many beds as of yet so sleeping bags are a must.

Ben

Taxal - May 08, 2006 - 09:54 AM
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I hope this will not create any problems for all of you. Myself and three others arwe coming down to play in the Spike. the only thing is we are only coming for the Saturday part of the tourney. I understand now that GW screwed up in the schedule, but it is to late for us to change our plans. Are we still able to play at least in the Saturday portion of Spike.

taxal

Blank_Page - May 08, 2006 - 10:13 AM
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Taxal wrote:

This is the question everyone wants answered.

Do we have to play on Friday?

Who is running this thing? GW or MOBBL?

Will it be an official NAF tournament?

Someone was suposed to respond with answers on Monday, and guess what... its Monday!

Clan_Skaven - May 08, 2006 - 10:35 AM
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Blank_Page wrote:

Taxal wrote:

Come on Blank Page the guy is probably at work....

Give him at least till this evening to post or not post the answers to the many questions, then post yer complaints. Wink

Spazzfist - May 08, 2006 - 11:18 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Come on Blank Page the guy is probably at work....

Give him at least till this evening to post or not post the answers to the many questions, then post yer complaints. Wink

Nah, he's probably just drunk from too much Guiness. No... wait, that's you!

Given all the flak this guy is getting he is porbably curled up in a fetal position sobbing miserably.

This looks like it could get ugly. (Even uglier than CS's avatar!) Laughing

Spazz

HarryPotter - May 08, 2006 - 11:32 AM
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I look forward to playing one of you bums. Who knowes I might actually win for once. But not likely, Nuffle hates my family

I'm the luckyest one in my family, next to my brother that is. Now if he only had the right stratigy...

Clan_Skaven - May 08, 2006 - 02:22 PM
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HarryPotter wrote:

Who is your brother? Not Baccus is it?

Rod

Clan_Skaven - May 08, 2006 - 02:26 PM
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Just my luck I'll go win the whole thing beat twist lizards, Ben's Skaven, Paul's Dwarves Bubs Wood Elves, & Kolja's Necro's only to find its not NAF approved! Wink

Rod.

Clan_Skaven - May 08, 2006 - 07:23 PM
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Tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, tic, ....

Its 9:22 pm Monday night, still no responce, Monday is running out..... Laughing

Rod

Spazzfist - May 08, 2006 - 07:28 PM
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This is bogus. Rolling Eyes

Blank_Page - May 08, 2006 - 11:02 PM
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Tournament cancelled.

No refunds available.

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 12:42 AM
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Blank_Page wrote:

Tournament cancelled.

No refunds available.

Thats for sure? Where did it say that?

Rod.

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 12:59 AM
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Ok I have been all over the GW site (it doesn't say it has been cancelled on it) not that I put much faith into GW anyway!

But "Baccuss 20something" has not replied to this as stated on Monday, so I guess take yer chances if you wanna go, if I do go it will be just to see stuff, maybe buy an army case with a cool logo (be nice if they had Skaven)

Rod.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 05:43 AM
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everyone says that people at gw don't know what they are doing....i would have to say that even bacuus2099 doesn';t even know.... you would think that people who are going to run a tourney would figure out ALL the details before annoucing the tourney, before selling tickets.... i bought my ticket cause it was suppose to be a 1 day tourney... now it's 2 day and maybe by the time of the tourney it might be a week ..... my 2 year old could probably do better than the people who are running the spike.....

have a nice day all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 07:13 AM
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So if they are not refunding the money where has it all gone? That is my question!

Spazz

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:35 AM
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Blank_Page wrote:

Do we have to participate in Fridays "primer" round?

If you want to have a six game tourney then Yes!

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:37 AM
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Taxal wrote:

Yes Plz come, you can only play in the three Sat games, however this will lower your stats for the tourney!

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:46 AM
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Okay now Guys
I know Ya'll were expecting me to tell you all what's going on yesterday, but it was one messed up day!

-Tourney is still on!
-It will be six games as I posted earlier!
-A NAF rep is supposed to be comming to this (word from above)
-The execs at GW wanted this thing to be a one day event (who knows why), that is why it was posted on their website is the three primer games and the three Sat games.
-The money from the tickets are STILL FOR YOUR TICKETS.

Lastly I apologize once again for the was that GW has been screwing us around, I am reposting the rules for the tourney following this post and I assure you all that what is posted is the way the tourney is, NOT what is on the GW website.

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:48 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

Bub let's see you do it better!

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 07:49 AM
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what a waste of money........................

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:53 AM
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Spike! 2006 Tournament Rules

Things you NEED to bring:
1) Your fully painted team,
2) Two copies of your team roster,
3) A Blood Bowl board, templates, dugouts and block dice, (We cannot guarantee we'll have extras on hand)
4) A copy of the most recent Living Rule Book, (Available for free online at www.bloodbowl.net)
5) Pen or pencil(s),
6) Your NAF user name and number (if you are a NAF member that is). See below for more information.

Schedule
Since time is limited please be on time and ready to play.

May 26th, 2006

10:00 a.m. ??? 12 noon Game 1
Lunch Break
1:00 p.m. ??? 3:00 Game 2
3:30 ??? 5:30 Game 3

May 27th, 2006

8:00 a.m. ??? 10:00 Game 4
10:15a.m. ??? 12:15 Games 5
Lunch Break
1:00 p.m. ??? 3:00 p.m. Game 6
3:30 p.m. Awards Presentation

Tournament Format
Tournament is played over Friday and Saturday. You will participate in a series of 6 games against different opponents. All games will be selected randomly with no repeating of opponents.
To keep on schedule, we would appreciate it if you could play at a brisk pace with no time wasting!
Each player has a special results form. Once each game is finished, you must fill in the form and hand it in to the Records Keeper. It is important that you fill in ALL the information, as this will decide your ranking and ultimately the winner of the tournament.

Scoring
After each game you will record the points earned by your team on the results form.
Points are awarded as follows:

Win 50
Loss 10
Tie 30

Bonuses:

???Blow-out??? (won by two or more points) +10
???Bag o' Wheat??? (caused most casualties) +10
???Keeping it close??? (lost by 1 TD) +10

Any ties in the final standings will be broken by TD difference and then CAS difference.

Painting & Sportsmanship

Painting
Tournament points will be awarded for team painting and presentation. Up to 10 points are awarded for team painting based on the criteria below. The tournament judges will evaluate each team based on these four criteria and not on the aesthetics of the team. This means that any painter of any standard can gain the maximum 10 points if he puts in the effort and follows the guidelines below.
The judge???s decisions are final.

Based - 2 points: All bases of the team including sideline staff are painted and/or textured in some manner.
Just being painted green is not enough!
Painted - 2 points: The team is painted. All models have at least 3 colours on them. Undercoats of primer
must not be visible.
Detailed - 2 points: All models have had the details painted in a variety of colours or with noticeable effects.
This can be shading, highlighting, etc. This discriminates between the merely painted team and the team that has
attention paid to it.
Representative - 4 points: All models on the team are representative of the race and position that they are meant to portray. Extra weapons that are not part of a finished and painted figure should be removed. This does not mean that you must use official Blood Bowl miniatures, only that an Ogre should look like an Ogre, a dwarf should look like a dwarf and so on.

IMPORTANT: In order to get the points all models in the team must fullfill the criteria. If even one model fails the points will not be awarded.

Sportsmanship
After each game, you will award your opponent 1 - 3 sportsmanship pts. based on the following criteria:

3 pts - Your opponent was an exceptional and sporting opponent. He did not endlessly argue about rules, tactics, he reminded you about your turn counter every time, let you reconsider moves, etc.
2 pts - A good opponent, neither great nor terrible.
1 pt - Not an enjoyable person to play against. Argued every single contentious point for the sake of it. Didn't go out of their way to make the game painful, but it was not an enjoyable experience.

Tournament Rules

Rosters
Coaches have 1,000,000 crowns with which to build their team. All normal team-building rules apply.

Official Tournament Teams
Any Team listed in the current Living Rule Book (LRB 4.0) may be used. Team stats may be downloaded from www.bloodbowl.net.

Star Players and Wizards
Star players are not permitted.
No wizards will be allowed, with the exception that the Halflings may purchase a Chef for 150,000 gold crowns.
Undead coaches may argue the call, but may not raise the dead.

Team Building
After every game the tournament Commissioner will roll 2D6, the result will be awarded to 1 member of your team (your choice).
Players may only take skills from their available skill categories, unless doubles are rolled. You may not stack additional skills on 1 player.
This system replaces the league and star player point system in the Blood Bowl handbook.

Casualties
All casualties that have been inflicted on your team, including death, are wiped away at the end of each game.
In other words the team resets after every game (excluding skill rolls).

Dice
All D6's and D8's will be supplied by the tournament organizer. Coaches will not be permitted to use their own D6's or D8's.

NAF
The NAF is an international Association of players dedicated to Blood Bowl - Games Workshops game of fantasy football.
NAF's goal is to act as a central resource for Blood Bowl coaches the world over - offering news, contacts, discussion, sanctioned tournaments, and international player rankings.
Whether your planning your own tournament, looking for a league, or just wanting to catch up on the latest from the world of
Blood Bowl, NAF HQ aims to provide everything you will need. Sign up now and get a set of Official NAF Block Dice!!
(Rumour has it that they are luckier than normal block dice, but officials can neither confirm nor deny this!) This tournament is NAF sanctioned which means that ANY matches that you play against another NAF member will count towards your overall ranking.
It is worth noting that matches against non-NAF members do not count towards your ranking as there is no way of judging the quality of an "unknown" opponent.

IMPORTANT: If you are a NAF member, please remember to bring your user name and NAF Number with you to the tournament.

NAF Membership is $10 USD per year and may be purchased at www.bloodbowl.net or at the tournament through Direct Services.

Prizes
There will be prizes not only for the tournament winners, but also for painting, sportsmanship, and anything else we can think of!
There will be custom ???Spike 2006??? Pitches up for auction following the final match!

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 07:57 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

what a waste of money........................

Why, yer still getting the tourney, things have been worked out on this end, and it is as I said it was so...... wheres the waste?

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 07:57 AM
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well all i am saying is that before you annouce a tourney the common sense would to figure out the details..... figuring the details and putting them into action is the hard and stressful part.....now i have spent money on a ticket for a tourney that i have no chance of winning that is not including gas, food, etc., because the organizers can't figure out if it one day two days or a year event...... i love to bb, i don't care the price of entery or the cost to get there , BUT WHAT PISSES ME OFF IS WHEN I TOLD ONE THING AND THEN THE SAME PEOPLE CHANGE THERE MINDS AND WASTE MY MONEY.... and if i was to run a tourney i would figure and arrange location, time, amount of days, and price before annoucing it....

COMMON SENSE.......

THE EASIEST THING TO USE IN LIFE BUT HARD FOR SOME

have a nice day all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 07:59 AM
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prizes are nice when you have a chance to win them

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:00 AM
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maybe the tourney organizers should roll a d6 to figure out who's way we are going with

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:02 AM
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BACK OFF BUB
You try organizing this while working as long as I do every day!

All I see is you complaining that ppl don't know what they're doing, well lets see you do a better job!

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:04 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

What I posted and anounced is the way it is, and if you are too stupid to understand that then that's your problem

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:05 AM
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i'm not saying i could better but before getting people to spend their money that they work hard for, you figeur out what you are doing....

but i guess when it's not your money who cares

ps maybe may 26 you should change locations like the amount of days change

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:08 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

Then back off! I am doing the best I can. What I have told you is what it is. I didn't know that GW was gunna change things around, how can I???

Gimme a break Bub, I can only do so much, and now that I have it finalized your not happy because what I gave in and was approved for was changed without my notice??!! how is this my fault, it is how I have posted it, it will be how I posted it, and that's the way it is!

How many time do I have to apologize for something that was out of my control??

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:09 AM
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first off all mr bucass!!! tickets are sold by those hosting the tourney and before i purchased 4 tickets i was told 1 day tourney which met the needs of those going to the tourney so i purchased..... if i knew the organizers could figure out if they were coming or going or trying to do both at the same time i would not of purchased a ticket.... i feel like i hire a blind contractor to build my house

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:11 AM
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the gentlman that organizes death bowl does an fabulous job organizing and i love the tourney and can't wait to go again..... maybe ask him

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:15 AM
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I have organized a lot bigger tourneys than this Bub, and if ppl were not changing what I have given in and had approved then there wouldn't have been this problem now would there??

Think about it! If I tell you that a tourney is on these days because I was told that I had approval for those two days, then change your mind without telling me and change the info I give you to reflect this change (still not informing me of the change) how am I to blame?? How am I wrong??

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:17 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

And BTW you were told wrong!!

Ben - May 09, 2006 - 08:27 AM
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Well....All these strong words exchanged back and forth is really not neccessary.

Skaven 27 - I really understand where you are coming from and i would be very upset if i purchased tickets based on the tournament being a one day event and later being told it was a two day event.

I do feel for Bacuus as it is very hard to run a tourney with GW as i had experienced at the last Spike a few months back but...... You should have really been on their backs to make sure they have all the correct information and are advertising the tourney correctly.

I know i had to be and emailed them almost weekly to assure everything was on track for the previous Spike.

Being to busy with work is not a good excuse as you should not have taken the responsability if you weren't intending on putting the time into it.

When i organized the Canadian Open it took a lot of time and effort from finding a location, to designing boards, to finding prizes, desgining a website etc and believe me it was hard with having TWO jobs.

All the above items i noted was handled by GW so you didn't have to put the time in to do them.

This tourney unfortunately has been a big mix up and i hope if Bacuus decides to run a tourney again it does not involve GW as it make things very difficult.

I would like to attend as it is so close to me and i need a BB fix but i don't think it's worth it if most of my opponents will be arriving on Saturday.

Good Luck!

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:32 AM
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mr baccuus

if you have to submit something to someone and they change it is cause they have the final word.... and if working with gw is hard then why do you do? if i wald into a wall i stop turn in a different direction and continue to walk i don't keep on walking into the wall.....

quote

once biting , twice shy

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 08:37 AM
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All I can tell you is that I have done the best I can. GW has messed things up more than once and My Team and I have gotten things straightened out each time.

I think WE ALL know how GW messes things around at times, but all has been worked out. The tourney is how I have posted, with the rules I have posted.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:38 AM
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not according to gw

Wolfhowl - May 09, 2006 - 08:38 AM
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Baccuus2099 is doing the best he can to keep this tourny the way it should be, a 2 day event. With GW changeing things around behind his back and not keeping us informed.

The Dates, times, and places are now Set in Stone.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 08:50 AM
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Wolfhowl,

sorry to say but since day one when the spike was announced they said 1 day and they are still saying one day..... friday only counts for naf rankings

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 08:56 AM
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So who the hell is this Blank Page guy, and why is he saying that the tournament is cancelled?

Also, there is still the issue of this thing even being NAF sanctioned. Cyberhare said that it would take a nod from Woody to make it so, but we have not heard anything yet. So what is up with that?

And Baccus, while I can understand your frustration, you do have to try to see it from the perspective of the people who are tgrying to book their time off, etc. to make it to this tournament which seems forever thrown into chaos. Granted, it is laregely the fault of GW, I remember my experience with them trying to book the Q'ermitt at the Bunker last year, and they screwed me out of that. Never again!

The biggest problem here is that there seem to be so many people involved in this, each of them is saying something different. You seem to be the person in charge of this, but then why are there other people telling us what is going on? If these are MOBB members, then tell them to back off, and let's hear the info from one person - you.

As Ben said, we all lead busy lives, so rather than challenging people to do better jobs, accept that things have happened and do the best you can to make it better. Don't sour things by getting itno flame wars with the people who are planning on coming to your tourney!

I think the big lesson to be learned here is to never plan a tourney where too much is dependant on GW. Ben, myself and now Baccus have learned the hard way. They just don't care. Another reason that the Spike! tourney should be run by NAF separate and apart from GW.

Skaven27 - I understand your frustration, but do have to say that it is not just Baccus making excuses when he says that GW keeps screwing him over. They are a clueless bunch. They really are. <sent you a a PM>

Let's just get through this one, and then take Spike! away from GW.

Spazz

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 09:01 AM
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AMEN Spazzfist! At the end of the tourney this year there will be a questionaire/list going around trying to get Spike away from Games Day.

I will also be trying to get it away from GW so that WE ( the players) never have to get into this situation again.

Wolfhowl for everyones information is the one person on my team who has been there with Corey and Myself trying to get all this straightened out, he has heard everything going on from My end and what I have been told from GW's end.

And Spazzfist I agree NEVER AGAIN if GW is involved!

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 09:07 AM
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just one thing every1 knows that games day is a way day event so why try and work it out on a day like that

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 09:13 AM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

-A NAF rep is supposed to be comming to this (word from above)

But this still does not answer the question:

is this tournament NAF sanctioned (ie will it be counting for rankings)?

I know that for some people it does not matter so much, and I may attend even if it doesn't (although like Rod said, I will probably have the best tourney record of my life!) But we still gotta know...

Please get official word from Woody.

Thanks

Ben - May 09, 2006 - 09:16 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

I know that for some people it does not matter so much, and I may attend even if it doesn't (although like Rod said, I will probably have the best tourney record of my life!) But we still gotta know...

Thanks

LMAO

Who you fooling?

Baccuus2099 - May 09, 2006 - 09:18 AM
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I am trying to find out that info Spazzfist, and I will relay it to you all as soon as I know.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 09:30 AM
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the question i have to ask is who is going to give

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 09:38 AM
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Ben wrote:

Spazzfist wrote:

LMAO

Who you fooling?

Nobody!

I have not had a great tournament record to be sure, so that means that my record can only get better, right? I think my orcs were plagued by bad luck (and a fair measure of poor decisions on my part I will admit). But I am pleased with my results with the Rotters at the last Deathbowl! I mean, they are not a tourney-winning team, but I was able to beat Gken in OT, and he is ranked #1 in the States!

Keep laughing Ben, it will make my beating you all the sweeter when it happens! Wink

Taxal - May 09, 2006 - 09:52 AM
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Well all in all it just sucks the big one.
Myself and Brie will still be coming down to play since we have bought our tickets already. We will still only play on Saturday. I do not like the idea that there is basically no chance in winning this thing, but I am not wasting my hard earned cash to not play in what I am calling a total mess of a tournament.
I will stay out of blaming anyone for this, and I ask everyone else to do the same. Remember it is just a game!
I have organized tournaments in the past and one of the largest leagues in Canada ( 32 players ), so I know what fustration and anger can do to people.
Know matter what you do, you will never be able to make everyone happy.
I ask everyone to stop the petty argueing and lets all get our BB fix that weekend and look to the future, and lets all see what we can all do for next years Spike.

I will see you all in a couple of weeks with my Ogres (Circus Freaks ).

Taxal

Wolfhowl - May 09, 2006 - 10:49 AM
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So Moot it be Taxal.

Just to let everyone know, you do not have to face the horror that is the Knights of the Crimson King, (or KoCK for short lol)

I have been asked to be the ref for the tournament.

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 11:05 AM
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[quote="Wolfhowl"]So Moot it be Taxal.

Just to let everyone know, you do not have to face the horror that is the Knights of the Crimson King, (or KoCK for short lol)[quote]

As long as we do not have to face the horror of that Scottish accent you had on at the Canadian Open! Wink

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 11:16 AM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

BACK OFF BUB
You try organizing this while working as long as I do every day!

All I see is you complaining that ppl don't know what they're doing, well lets see you do a better job!

You want him to do a better job in what a couple of weeks?.....

Not a very logical challenge. Confused

Also if you work such long hours why even bother putting yourself through this? I while at my old job wanted to start planning my tourney with in the next year. Then without warning NO JOB!!! So my BB tourney idea was put on the back burner, now with my current job I never know where I'm working & for how long.

My point is, if you know your time restraints are too much for you to run a tourney why do it. I know that untill I get a job, more local/steady I'm not going to even bother running a tourney.

Why, you ask? Simple! Word of mouth & 1st impression. Word of mouth can be anyone's best & worst advertisement (mess something up, take a guess what one will it be?) 1st. Impression, well we all have had that meeting people from time to time, apply that to a BB tourney run by someone your meeting for the 1st time.

I'm not trying to insult anyone here, but I know I wouldn't try & run a BB tourney till I knew without a doubt that there was going to be no problems (or at least no major problems) happening at the last minute.

Now as far as Anthony 27 being pissed off, hell ya I see why, do I think its warrented? Yes, but Anthony you have vented on him & made your point no need to blast him anymore. (I have met Athony in real life (competed against him in the final DB round last fall, I can tell you he seemed to a very calm fellow "even when my dirty player fouled out his Rat-Ogre" so for him to get this rialed up is IMO not just a common thing.

Ok & Baccus, you do not deserve to be insulted anymore than anyone else here does. But you may have brought it on yourself (again not saying you deserve it) just as I stated (& by Anthony), if you set out final rules & it turns out not to be final, then its final only not to be final, then your gonna have the answers on a set day , only not to have the answers, don't you think if you were in Anthony's position you would alittle pissed off too?

Also you tell Anthony all he is doing is complaining & pointing the finger.... "hmm sound familiar?" Was that not all you have done since all the problems have arose with GW? (You have insulted them repeatedly & complained about them over & over) Have you taken any responcability for the mess up (not saying all, but your telling me it's 100% GW's fault? Even for a Dunder-head organization like GW, I still don't think they would be 100% responsable for this mess) Was it GW that posted the "final" rules here? (twice) was it GW that said all answeres would be answered on such date? (without at least a post saying , "sorry still working on an answer , won't have it today (Monday) will have ASAP") No it was not....
So can you expect Anthony not to point the finger when thats all your doing?

Hate me if you want, be pissed at me if you will, I'm just stating it as I see it.

Rod

PS: Whats with the "Bub" thing? Do you think your Wolverine? Wink

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 11:36 AM
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thanks rod..... i want to put blame or chew out some1 for trying to put on a tournament.... like taxal said you can't please every1..... i wouldn't even try.... and rod your dirty player has kept my rat ogre from preforming well in any game i have played since the tourney... he seems to find his way into the ko box by second turn and can't find his way out...

what i find irritating is that gw has posted rules, time, and place for the tourney saying it is a naf tourney.... but on the naf touney postings it ain't there.... so what is the big fuss in making a one day tourney,which people could attend to a two day tourney where people have to miss work....

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

so what is the big fuss in making a one day tourney,which people could attend to a two day tourney where people have to miss work....

Can..... open! Worms ...... everywhere! Razz

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 11:55 AM
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i meant what is the big fuss on leaving it a one day tourney where people could attend without missing work

Wolfhowl - May 09, 2006 - 11:59 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

As long as we do not have to face the horror of that Scottish accent you had on at the Canadian Open! Wink

LOL!!!!!!!

I make no promises about that.

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 12:02 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

Well as stated before it is a big mess (your now in a a one day out of maybe two day tourney that may or may not be NAF approved) so yes I see your frustrations. But like I said unless you can get GW to refund you, your stuck with what you got, nothing will be solved by venting anymore, I suggest just go (if you are still going at all) & have fun on the one day (so you can't win the tourney with playing 3 out of 6 games, if you play 3 & Spazz plays 6 I bet you will still beat him.)) Wink

Also if your there you get to see all the exibits (ya great woooo-hooo Rolling Eyes

) & all the GW SHEEP (sheep being those customers that yell , scream, dance or whatever the GW clown on the mic demands of them!) Heck with all that to see how could you have time to play anything let alone BB! Wink

Anthony , try if you can to put this behind you & if you still go, start a clean slate & try & enjoy yourself.

(the only suggestion I can make is have a separate champion "call it a league cup" or the "confusion cup" (name is unimportant, what it stands for is, have the 2nd championship awarded to the best player competing in the Sat. only day.) So if your there for both days you compete for the SPIKE TROPHY & if your there for one day your standings will be only vs other 1 day people for the SPIKE league cup. If you decide to do this still have the tourney run normally & still have ppl from the tourney play each other on the 2nd day from both the 1-2 day competitors. Just as for the championship it gives those with the extra games handicap something to shoot for ..... I think if this was done it would make ppl happy.

PS, Baccus don't leave this up to GW, make sure you have an odd man out available every round to jump in a game if needed. I have seen GW mess that up b4.

Rod.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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well according to gw it is still a 1 day.... but they said there could be refund if it officially goes to a 2 day tournament

i love bb, but to miss work for it???????

my slate is always cleaned up right a way

like they; too many halfling chefs ruin the broth

that is what is bring this tourney down to it's knees.....

i was looking forward to play in another tourney this year other than deathbowl

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 12:14 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

if I knew you could only have made 2 (the DB & another, well the CDN Open has always been successful although past, theres still the Challenge of Q!) "im not going to attempt to spell it Spazz! The Challenge of Q rocks! with all the various pitches & different rules for each pitch (from the grave yard to the boat, the artic to the dessert, the swamp to the lush turf) pluss many more.

Rod

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 12:17 PM
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the probablem with those is i need to stay overnight and i don't really have the time and cash for that at this time.... i hope in the near future to be able to do that...

so the spike being a one day tourney suited my needs

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 12:23 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

Ok well then to Baccus I suggest this as I posted a few posts earlier create a 2nd championship award (although it wont be for the actual SPIKE it will be for those involved in the one day only event.)

Rod.

Taxal - May 09, 2006 - 12:40 PM
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Hear Hear

I am all for that. Especially since I am only going on Saturday. Then at least I have something to shoot for.

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 01:07 PM
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I would think that the secondary award would be the way to make the best out of a bad situation.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 01:18 PM
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that is the smartest thing to come out of this stupid situation.... i hope the organizers like it and go for

i know win isn't everything but being competitive and having fun is the best feeling.....

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 01:20 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

that is the smartest thing to come out of this stupid situation.... i hope the organizers like it and go for

i know win isn't everything but being competitive and having fun is the best feeling.....

Of coarse it was the smartest thing .....

It was I who came up with it! Laughing

Rod

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 01:38 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

the probablem with those is i need to stay overnight and i don't really have the time and cash for that at this time.... i hope in the near future to be able to do that...

Well if money is an issue, then there are two options:

1) Book a room in the hotel with a bunch of other guys, this is a popular option.

2) Try to make friends with someone who lives in the area, and mooch accommodations - for this one it helps if you are not terribly annoying or smelly! Wink

Spazz

Taxal - May 09, 2006 - 02:43 PM
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Lets change the topic for now.....

What team is everyone looking at bringing.

Myself its the mighty ( stop laughing ) OGRES

taxal

Clan_Skaven - May 09, 2006 - 02:51 PM
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Taxal wrote:

Lets change the topic for now.....

What team is everyone looking at bringing.

Myself its the mighty ( stop laughing ) OGRES

taxal

I doubt I'm going, but if I do probably Skaven or Lizards (unless I get off my a$$ & get my orcs painted.)

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 05:22 PM
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Well if it is not for ranking, then I may bring my gobbos again for some laughs. Or maybe I will see you on that one Taxal, and bring my ogre team "Los Luchadroes"!

If it is ranked, then orcs - which like Rod, will require me to paint.

skaven27 - May 09, 2006 - 07:21 PM
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i am bring chaos

looking to punish

Spazzfist - May 09, 2006 - 07:39 PM
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Well it looks like if I am playing in this one, I will be the opposite of some of you - I will only be able to make it out for Friday (and that is if I play hooky (sp?) from work!) My son was just informed that he will be going for the test to get his black belt in Tae Kwon Do on the last Saturday of this month (the 27th).

So maybe I can tag-team with someone who is only going to come on Saturday. And let me beat Rod (and Paul, and Ben, and Rob, etc. etc.) to the punch and say that it better be someone who is not too worried about winning the whole thing, as my tourney record does not accurately reflect the Blood Bowl god that I am! Twisted Evil

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 10, 2006 - 03:21 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Spazz

Hey slacker I'm hammerd!!!!!!!! (YAAAAAAAAAAAA BEEEEEEEEER!!!!)

Pick a race I'll show up one day to continue our crap legacy!

let me know soon, the only races I have painted are rats & lizards ( but with enough timr maybe orcs)

Gawsd I'm drunbk !

Ps I cany type worth a poop!

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 08:30 AM
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Rod you big lush!

If you want to do this, then why don't we do the rats. I have a skaven team already converted, but would need to put some base coats on them - no bigee.

LMK if you want to do this for sure, and then we can work out the team selection.

Hope the hangover is not too bad!

Spazz

Darkson - May 10, 2006 - 11:08 AM
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Sorry to drag this back to where the topics just moved from (for 10 pages!), but I do understand where Baccus is coming from.

When GW posted the rules for the BB this weekend, there was some confusion on the price of Star Players. Somehow, I ended up volunteering to find out the exact word to post on the SG forum (and TBB) [I'm sure my Dad taught me never to volunteer for anything!]

I ended up talking to 4 or 5 different people on the UK events team before I could get an "official, final" answer, and even then, I expect that someone will get it wrong on their roster, and it won't be picked up on the pre-tourney roster checking.

I don't know if it's the same in Canada as it is here in the UK, but here. it's not the BB "people" that run the tournament, but the Events team, which may or may not have much experience in BB tournaments.

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 12:04 PM
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Darkson,

It is not GW running the event, it is a local group. However, GW keeps interfering which is what is creating the confusion.

skaven27 - May 10, 2006 - 12:12 PM
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one question spazz....

how come the only info on the spike is with gw and no-one else?

aren't they hosting it?

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 12:47 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

one question spazz....

how come the only info on the spike is with gw and no-one else?

aren't they hosting it?

Don't know.

I have nothing to do with this tournament. It is the MOBB who is organizing it.

Where else do you feel it should be posted?

skaven27 - May 10, 2006 - 12:49 PM
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what does mobb stand for?

it is suppose to be a naf tournament so why ain't it post here?

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 01:03 PM
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If I am not mistaken MOBB stand for "Mississauga/Oakville Blood Bowl". they are a group that runs a league in the Oakville Battle Bunker.

They should have had something posted on the tourney link, and thereby got it NAF approved, but they didn't, and that is what is creating the problems with them getting it approved now. Step #1 of running a BB tournament should be registering it with NAF. Having a NAF approved tournament greatly increases your advertising and will almost certainly increase your attendance.

I don't know why they didn't post it here. But I imagine that it is not a mistake that they will make twice.

Spazz

Deathwing - May 10, 2006 - 01:18 PM
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Hmmm... just picked up on this.
The procedure for sanctioning is up in Sections--> Tournaments.
Or http://bloodbowl.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=24&page=1
It should have been entered as soon as the dates were set, that way it shows up as a 'new tournament'.

Regardless, what's done is done.
Baccus, get it entered asap and either myself or Sputnik will officially sanction it. And it will be a Major.

One more thing. This thread has been a little too feisty in places for my liking. Please keep it civil.

I wish you all a great weekend and hope it's a success in spite of all the confusion. Enjoy yourselves guys. Smile

skaven27 - May 10, 2006 - 01:19 PM
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but it is gw hosting it right?

skaven27 - May 10, 2006 - 01:22 PM
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one more question

isn't it gw suppling the prizes and trophies?

wouldn't that give them the final say?

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 01:41 PM
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Deathwing wrote:

Regardless, what's done is done.
Baccus, get it entered asap and either myself or Sputnik will officially sanction it. And it will be a Major.

Sorry, but is it just the name of the tournament that is giving it a major status? No offense to anyone, but there is an awful lot about this tournament that makes it seem a bit jury-rigged, and slapped together. This being more because of GW's involvement than anything else.

What is it that constitutes a tournament getting this status? Because personally, I do not have a problem seeing this tournament approved, but making it a major? That I don't agree with. There's just been too many problems.

Paul - May 10, 2006 - 01:47 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

one more question

isn't it gw suppling the prizes and trophies?

wouldn't that give them the final say?

GW doesn't supply prizes for their tournaments. You'll probably get a nice certificate if you manage to win somthing though.

They do have the Spike Trophy that they let you get your photo taken with if you win though.

Paul - May 10, 2006 - 01:50 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Yea I gotta agree with Spazz. No offense to the MOBB guys who are running it, but with all the problems with the scheduling (which isn't their fault) and people coming for only one day I don't think this should be a major. Let the Deathbowl be a major again for 2006 and then we'll see what the status is for the Spike next year.

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 01:51 PM
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Paul wrote:

but with all the problems with the scheduling (which isn't their fault) and people coming for only one day I don't think this should be a major.

Yeah, I forgot about that part - that really makes things awkward.....

skaven27 - May 10, 2006 - 02:26 PM
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you're telling me

Deathwing - May 10, 2006 - 06:51 PM
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We don't decide these things on an arbitary basis. There are many tournaments in Europe for example that dwarf the Dungeonbowl, there are better structured than the Blood Bowl. It's not about what's biggest or best, neither is it about ego or 'feathers in caps', what deserves a certain status or what doesn't. The NAF is (and always has been) as much about growing and promoting the game as it is about serving the dedicated (present) hard core. Look at the big picture. Combining the Spike! with Games Day Canada does give a great opportunity to reach a whole new group of people, spark interest and can only be good for the health of the game in Canada in the future.

I appreciate that it's not an ideal situation. It's true that GW are not easy bedfellows sometimes (and the vast majority will never know just how aware of that (and currently embroiled with local issues) I actually am). It's the nature of the multinational (sometimes less than competently staffed) GW beast, simple as that.

You guys want a discussion on the merits of 'The Majors' and how they should be designated? Death Bowl deserves it and Spike! doesn't? Fine by me, start a seperate thread.

For the purposes of this thread however:

CanCon carries equivalent k-value to a Major (in an effort to try and address ranking issues for the Australians who simply can't easily travel to a major).

The Majors are The Spike, The Chaos Cup, The Dungeonbowl and the Blood Bowl.

Period.

Paul - May 10, 2006 - 07:09 PM
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Thats all fair with me Deathwing,

Having to deal with GW is no fun for anyone, GW Canada is particularally bad in my opinion (granted, I've never delt with any of the others) and I guess most of us here would like to see the major tournament (be it the Spike or whatever) taken from their control.

So this means that the upcoming Spike does have NAF sanctioning or whatever for it to count for our rankings. I know that will probably bring a few more people out from the TBBF to the tournament.

Paul - May 10, 2006 - 07:11 PM
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I've got a question about tickets for Baraccus.

Do you need to get your ticket in advance? Or can I just show up on Friday with $30 and get to play?

Thanks

Spazzfist - May 10, 2006 - 07:54 PM
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Deathwing wrote:

The Majors are The Spike, The Chaos Cup, The Dungeonbowl and the Blood Bowl.

Period.

So what exactly are you trying to say? Wink

I understand what you are saying Woody, and while it does not have to necessarily be the biggest or the best, or as you put it "the feather in your cap", I do feel that the major tournaments should have special attention to ensure that they are run properly.

First step, remove GW's influence...... Evil or Very Mad

Xtreme - May 10, 2006 - 09:10 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

I understand what you are saying Woody, and while it does not have to necessarily be the biggest or the best, or as you put it "the feather in your cap", I do feel that the major tournaments should have special attention to ensure that they are run properly.
First step, remove GW's influence...... Evil or Very Mad

I would agree with you though that should really be taken up in a seperate thread. I urge you or someone else from this thread to start one, and hopefully find someway for the NAF to get some control of the majors away from GW. The Poll numbers on the front page make it look like most of the people here agree it needs to be done.

As for the Spike I wish you all the best of luck. I can't help but wonder how much of a nitemare this would have been if this thread wasn't dug up last week. There is plenty of Blame to go around, but why don't we all suck it up and work to get this thing fixed as much as we can. I think Rods idea of having a seperate trophy for the second day is a great one, but why not take it a step further. Instead of having 1st, 2nd, 3rd place. You could have 1st day winner, 2nd day winner, and Grand Champion.

The MOBB guys really need to get this tourney listed on the NAF site ASAP though so DW can get is offical.

To all those that go I really hope you show up with a good attitude and try to have fun. This has been a mess but there is no reason it can't still be a fun weekend (or one day) of Bloodbowl for everyone.

Clan_Skaven - May 10, 2006 - 09:51 PM
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Gee Xtreme I think you missed your calling.... You should run for Politics.

Rod. Laughing

Xtreme - May 10, 2006 - 11:22 PM
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Nah, my political ideas are a bit 'Xtreme'. Wink

Clan_Skaven - May 10, 2006 - 11:33 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

Nah, my political ideas are a bit 'Xtreme'. Wink

LOL That could be your slogan!

Rod

Sputnik - May 11, 2006 - 01:59 AM
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While I have been contacted recently by someone involved in running the event, there is still no tourny entry Deathwing or I could approve. And I am pretty sure the people organising it are aware of the situation with regard to the NAF approval. Crying or Very sad

I don't know about the organising details of this event, but I believe if so many of you care about this tourney, someone could step up and deal with it instead of posting about it only. Crying or Very sad

The people I contacted so far unfortunately won't be at the event, and from my desk I can hardly do more than watch the situation develop.

So, any volunteers?

Sputnik

skaven27 - May 11, 2006 - 05:21 AM
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i like xtreme's solution champ fo day 1 and a champ for day 2... then the to champs play 1 game with winner takes all

now if the majors are bloodowl,dungeonbowl,chaos cup,and the spike which are all part of the founders game (all mentioned in the lrb1-4) which bring a background to the game, and gw owns the right of bb the logical thing in my point of view is that they get to say what goes on in and at thier touneys.....

and if people don't like what they say or do, then don't participate in anyway, shape or form....

that's why hundreds of other people form thier own tounament and no tournaments are the same....

deathbowl is deathbowl, not the carnage in the capital

Spazzfist - May 11, 2006 - 06:00 AM
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Baccus,

Is that going to be cool with you if Rod and I share a team for the tourney - I play on day one and he plays one day two?

LMK

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 11, 2006 - 06:52 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Baccus,

Is that going to be cool with you if Rod and I share a team for the tourney - I play on day one and he plays one day two?

LMK

Spazz

Thing is we still don't know if it is going to be NAF, & what type of format is going to be used. Honestly I doubt I'll be going, I don't see the logic & it looks as if it is not IMO going to run smoothly. I'd just rather not be apart of it all together. Ya know I said we combine the other night but I was completley hammered.

Rod.

skaven27 - May 11, 2006 - 07:19 AM
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all the details will be clear on may 26 or 27 at 8am

i'm going just to try out my chaos team for deathbowl cause i would like to win the most casualties trophy

Kolja_TBBF - May 11, 2006 - 08:06 AM
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Deathwing wrote:

For the purposes of this thread however:

The Majors are The Spike, The Chaos Cup, The Dungeonbowl and the Blood Bowl.

Period.

I must say this artibitrary set of 4 makes little sense - It is just a name. The Spike! hasn't always been run and is just up for grabs. This year MOBB is running it and, unfortunately, it is a mess for various reasons (GW and MOBB).
It is going to have about 10 people attending.

And it sounds like MOBB wants to break the Spike! away from GW next year. Will it still be a major? If some guys just call their tourney the Spike! without GW affiliation? What if the people who run the Canadian Open want to call theirs the Spike! also? It's just a name...

NAF is independent. You guys can determine what you want to be Majors. Do you really think GW cares which are majors here in Canada? Or would even notice? As it stands, the Spike! isn't entered as a NAF tourney. Does GW care about that? They don't know nor care.

This lessens the contribution of all those who manage to run fantastic tourneys and those who run tourneys that are real major events in BBowl, not artificially 'major'.

You fellas run NAF. So run it as advocates for the stake-holders - the BBowl players.

My 2 cents.

BTW, Baccus - too bad the tourney has fallen apart - GW does that here in Canada. I can't take Friday off and won't attend a 1/2 a tourney on Gamesday. Especially since my absolute worst (and only bad) BB tourney experience was at a Canadian Gamesday a few years ago.

Kolja

skaven27 - May 11, 2006 - 08:22 AM
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kolja quote:

I must say this artibitrary set of 4 makes little sense - It is just a name. The Spike! hasn't always been run and is just up for grabs. This year MOBB is running it and, unfortunately, it is a mess for various reasons (GW and MOBB).
It is going to have about 10 people attending.

yeah 5 peopleshowing friday only and 5 people showing saturday

i say let gw do thing thier way since it is thier's

if or when it flops it will be thier fault

gw fault is getting to many hand into organizing and running the tournament

what they should have done is have gamesday on sunday and make the spike a 2 day tourney with the first on a saturday so that it appeals to every bb player...

i think baccuus knowing that gamesday is on a saturday and the spike for gw was going to be a 1 day thing should've stay out of that disaster....

sorry baccuus but you step into the fire with gw in this one

skaven27 - May 11, 2006 - 01:25 PM
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hello all!!!!!!!!!!!!!

just got off the phine with gw and to them there is less than 10 people have signed up so far.....

does any1 have any idea how people going to show who haven't purchased yet?

Taxal - May 11, 2006 - 02:43 PM
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less than 10....

wow i have a chance to win a tourney....

well i guess i can dream.

this tourney has had a curse on it since the beginning.

Deathwing - May 11, 2006 - 03:08 PM
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Kolja_TBBF wrote:

Snip... My 2 cents.

Deathwing already wrote:

You guys want a discussion on the merits of 'The Majors' and how they should be designated? Death Bowl deserves it and Spike! doesn't? Fine by me, start a seperate thread.

Kolja_TBBF - May 11, 2006 - 04:00 PM
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Ha! Snappy comeback.....

Spazzfist - May 11, 2006 - 06:55 PM
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Deathwing already wrote:

You guys want a discussion on the merits of 'The Majors' and how they should be designated? Death Bowl deserves it and Spike! doesn't? Fine by me, start a seperate thread.

Spazz already started a new thread on this one it is called "Major Tournaments".

Ben - May 11, 2006 - 09:17 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Deathwing already wrote:

You guys want a discussion on the merits of 'The Majors' and how they should be designated? Death Bowl deserves it and Spike! doesn't? Fine by me, start a seperate thread.

Spazz already started a new thread on this one it is called "Major Tournaments".

Are you talking in 3rd person?

Ben likes Beer....Hmmmmm Beer

HarryPotter - May 14, 2006 - 01:13 PM
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Who is your brother? Not Baccus is it?

NO!! Fool.

skaven27 - May 15, 2006 - 06:19 AM
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any word on what's going on for the spike?

has anything been settled with gw?

Trojan65 - May 15, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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Hey guys, GW still says that noting is definate yet, yes baccuss might have a picture in his head, but he has to work with GW to get the final say. As it stands...

But on the rules page that is Available to ALL OF CANADA, and not just NAF members. it does say that M.O.B.B is holding a tournament "Primer" on the friday, which usually means its optional. I know M.O.B.B is trying to push for it to count, but it still DOES NOT COUNT as of right now. Because no one has sanctioned it, not NAF, or Gamesworksop. GW is even saying that NAF is not responding to anything, so they still haven't worked it out (this is not even 2 weeks before the tournment)

So as it stands, (please let me know if' I'm wrong) its only the 3 games on the saturday that count, the rest are sort of exhibition games, as it says on the rules posted on the GW website from M.O.B.B and from Direct services.... *yes i know what everyone is saying, but lets face it, 2 of 3 sources say its this way, and the 3rd source can't even be contacted.

I know its hard baccuss because GW keeps interefering, but lets face it they're are the ones promoting it/funding it, they have the final say, especially if its at Gamesday, no where on my ticket does it even mention M.O.B.B...

Unless something changes, count me in on the Saturday only, I can't make the friday because i have a JOB, and if it stays the way GW says, then it'll only be the saturday that counts... I'll be there with some of the meanest orc's you've ever seen!

Got my ticket in hand, and my BB team is just resting at GW, play every friday night, looking forward to seeing some of you guys

Why don't you guys GIVE UP this year, and just let it be the 1 day that counts, and the other day the PRIMER just like it says, scratch this SPIKE as USELESS and next year make sure you/everyone gets on top of things and makes the SPIKE! cup amazing for next year!

skaven27 - May 15, 2006 - 12:21 PM
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i like what trojan 65 has to say and i agree with him....

Spazzfist - May 15, 2006 - 12:48 PM
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HarryPotter wrote:

Who is your brother? Not Baccus is it?

NO!! Fool.

Great, Baccus thinks that he is Wolverine, and now this guy is talking like Mr. T! Rolling Eyes

Spazzfist - May 15, 2006 - 12:51 PM
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Trojan65 wrote:

Why don't you guys GIVE UP this year, and just let it be the 1 day that counts, and the other day the PRIMER just like it says, scratch this SPIKE as USELESS and next year make sure you/everyone gets on top of things and makes the SPIKE! cup amazing for next year!

I don't follow you. Are you suggesting that they do not even have the tournament or that it should not count for anything. Either way you have to consider that there are people who are coming in from out of town who have gone to a lot of trouble to make arrangements to be there for this.

Personally, I think you just want everyone not to attend so that youy can win by default! Wink

Spazz

skaven27 - May 15, 2006 - 12:56 PM
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well spazzfist what about those who purchased tickets that are coming from out town on the basis of a 1 day tourney.... should they loss out now cause some want it to be 2 day tournay.....

look at carnage in the capital... it start on a friday and since i don't friday off i will not attend....

it's easier for people to decide wether they will show knowing what is going on

Kolja_TBBF - May 15, 2006 - 01:28 PM
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Seriously, just make the Saturday the "Spike!" tourney and have it be 3 games.
Have the Friday just be for fun. Maybe have it as a 3 game tourney also with it's own prize.

Really, once people started to buy tickets and make travel plans for a Saturday only tourney the whole thing was decided - Saturday only.

Kolja

skaven27 - May 15, 2006 - 01:29 PM
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Kolja_TBBF wrote:

i agree

Spazzfist - May 15, 2006 - 01:44 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

well spazzfist what about those who purchased tickets that are coming from out town on the basis of a 1 day tourney.... should they loss out now cause some want it to be 2 day tournay.....

My real point was that I did not understand what Torjan was saying, and to be honest, I am still not sure.

He talks about scrapping the whole thing. I am curious as to what he means by that. Whether it is for one day or two people have been making arrangments to attend. Regardless of how many days or how many problems there have been, this one has to go on regardless.

Just trying to get a meaning clarfied is all.

Spazz

skaven27 - May 15, 2006 - 01:49 PM
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the way i understand it..... is scrap the naf points for tournament for this and keep a one day and if it flops, next year it could be done better...

i mean why argue over a hobby.....it's something we do for fun in our spare time..... we ain't getting paid millions to play...

Trojan65 - May 15, 2006 - 02:48 PM
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sorry, didn't know that sounded unclear... must be cause I have Ork blood....

Scrap it means, give up in trying to make it all complicated and change everything, and fight with GW, and fight against all the people who bought the tickets...

I'm sayen exactly as skaven said, scrap the points for the tournament and keep it the one day... why scrap the points? Because if it was really for points, and had been registered, like everyone else said; it would have been promoted waaayyy better, and more NAF members would have been going..... and attendance might have hit the needed 45. But its not, and its too late to do it now, in all reality from a customer's point of view.

I don't mean cancel the tournament, or give up on it, I just mean let it be type thing..... its a hobby, and if it said 3 games on the saturday, then oh well, yeah its not as many games as I wanted, but, that's life, and at this point in time, it needs to be settled for there is only 1 week, and like 5 days left.

Scrap doesn't mean trash/let go/cancel, it means stop bickering over all the little things, and just let it fly like it says, with the primer on the friday for anyone who wants to come, and the real tournay on the saturday, NAF points weren't an issue, and right now it looks like no one is really on the money to make it worth NAF points, and with only the short amount of time, most NAF members aren't going to be able to fly/drive/make accomidations this late in the game.

I know its sad, but that's how it goes, and SPAZZ, sorry if I was unclear, who could cancel bloodbowl!

P.S I have a ticket, why would I forfiet ma money?, and to SPAZZ I'll take a default for sure...

Spazzfist - May 15, 2006 - 03:50 PM
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Trojan65 wrote:

P.S I have a ticket, why would I forfiet ma money?, and to SPAZZ I'll take a default for sure...

That's the only way you're going to beat me Skippy! Very Happy

skaven27 - May 16, 2006 - 10:45 AM
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any1 have any news on the details yet?

Paul - May 16, 2006 - 10:54 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Trojan65 wrote:

P.S I have a ticket, why would I forfiet ma money?, and to SPAZZ I'll take a default for sure...

That's the only way you're going to beat me Skippy! Very Happy

well, not exactly the only way. I mean, you can actually show up and play Spazz. You'll beat him that way too.

Clan_Skaven - May 16, 2006 - 02:49 PM
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Paul wrote:

Spazzfist wrote:

Trojan65 wrote:

P.S I have a ticket, why would I forfiet ma money?, and to SPAZZ I'll take a default for sure...

That's the only way you're going to beat me Skippy! Very Happy

well, not exactly the only way. I mean, you can actually show up and play Spazz. You'll beat him that way too.

This is true Spazz, but look on the bright side if you do show up for one day it is imposible for you to have an 0-0-5 record!

So losing to whoever will still be better than that, wouldn't you agree Paul? Wink

Rod

skaven27 - May 17, 2006 - 06:29 AM
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i guess baccuus hasn't settled anything gw yet..............

i hope it get's settle soon

Hoshi_Komi - May 17, 2006 - 09:15 AM
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is this over? what were the results?

skaven27 - May 17, 2006 - 09:23 AM
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haven't played yet

Spazzfist - May 17, 2006 - 09:51 AM
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gken1 wrote:

is this over? what were the results?

Do you mean the tournament or the argument? Wink

The tournmanent has not been played yet, and the argument rages on. It looks like Clan Skaven is deifinitely ahead determined by his snappy comebacks and his "Wolverine" comment. Skaven27 is leadfing in number of posts, and it looks like Baccus is definitely going to be receiving the wooden spoon on this one. Very Happy

Ben - May 18, 2006 - 08:49 AM
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Well i am no longer showing up just from the fact that Baccuus hasn't even responded to any of our inquiries.

I have no idea what is going on and now i'm just annoyed.

Longshot - May 18, 2006 - 09:50 AM
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Ben.... sh... up Very Happy

You can't be annoyed ! you re too sweet for that ! and you know it Wink

Ben - May 18, 2006 - 10:01 AM
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Longshot wrote:

Ben.... sh... up Very Happy

You can't be annoyed ! you re too sweet for that ! and you know it Wink

I can be annoyed just not angry Evil or Very Mad

Now with you, all there is, is love. Very Happy

Baccuus2099 - May 18, 2006 - 10:31 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Baccus,

Is that going to be cool with you if Rod and I share a team for the tourney - I play on day one and he plays one day two?

LMK

Spazz

Thats fine with me Spazzfist

Baccuus2099 - May 18, 2006 - 10:34 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

I agree, if I had known that Games Day was Saturday BEFORE signing on as Organizer I would have had second thoughts myself

Oh well, next time it will be different.

Spazzfist - May 18, 2006 - 10:34 AM
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Thanks for getting back to me, but Clan-Skaven is not going to be coming, and to be honest, I do not want to take the time off for this one anymore.

Besides, I think there are other questions which need more of your attention than this one.

Baccuus2099 - May 18, 2006 - 10:39 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

gken1 wrote:

is this over? what were the results?

Do you mean the tournament or the argument? Wink

Actually I plan on getting the BAG O WHEAT

Baccuus2099 - May 18, 2006 - 10:41 AM
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Ben wrote:

Well i am no longer showing up just from the fact that Baccuus hasn't even responded to any of our inquiries.

I have no idea what is going on and now i'm just annoyed.

Sorry but I am doing the best I can right now. No time for anything but work n sleep.

My apologies for not responding as quickl;y as some might like.

skaven27 - May 18, 2006 - 11:33 AM
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so what is the ruling?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

is the spike winner be determined by the games play on saturday?

according to gw it's still their way, points gather only from SATURDAY WILL DETERMINE THW WINNER..........................

Trojan65 - May 18, 2006 - 12:28 PM
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Quote:

agree, if I had known that Games Day was Saturday BEFORE signing on as Organizer I would have had second thoughts myself

Oh well, next time it will be different

Baccuus, I'm going to call ya on this one, WHEN HASN"T GAMESDAY BEEN ON SATURDAY? not to be mean or anything, but when they tell you they want to have spike at gamesday, take a look at all the gamesdays, they've been on saturdays for a LONG LONG time now, I might be wrong but the last 3 I've worked at were all on saturday....

Instead of answering some of the bickering questions, and stupid easy questions ( no offence to anyone) WHY not answer...

WHAT THE HECK IS GOING ON! WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN WITH SPIKE NEXT WEEKEND!

Ah well, maybe I'll just call my grandma or something, she might know more about this than.... GW or even baccuus for that matter!

skaven27 - May 18, 2006 - 12:38 PM
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apparently gw being rying to get a hold of the mobb to work this but one1 is returning thier calls........

i was think maybe the spike should come to montreal and let some1 here do it montreal style......

just think of the pretty girls we could get to pass out drinks during the game..........

Ben - May 18, 2006 - 01:31 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

just think of the pretty girls we could get to pass out drinks during the game..........

Brian has already promised this to us in the past and has failed to fullfill his promise.

But we don't need it, that's what the bars are for at night.

Gotta love it.....free lap dance with every bucket of beer purchased. Only in Montreal.

Spazzfist - May 18, 2006 - 01:56 PM
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Ben wrote:

Gotta love it.....free lap dance with every bucket of beer purchased. Only in Montreal.

Tell you what Ben, you buy me a beer at the Q'ermitt and I will get Rod to give you a lap dance! Shocked

Once he's drunk enough, I'm sure he'll go for it! Laughing

CyberHare - May 18, 2006 - 03:34 PM
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Ben wrote:

Brian has already promised this to us in the past and has failed to fullfill his promise.

Yeah for some reason it was more difficult than I thought to convince the ladies to spend two days hanging out with geeks playing with little toys. Who would have thought. Wink

Some of you seem to be getting a little harsh on Baccuus. Just remember that for better or worse being a TO is a non paying mostly thankless job that takes a fair amount of work to pull off well. Having GW tied to you like an anchor is no surprise that things aren't going well. I know we're pissed off with the Spike but I haven't seen any reason to take it out on him. Though not knowing that Games Day is always on Saturday is agree'd a little suspect.

skaven27 - May 18, 2006 - 05:26 PM
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but brian.... he posted last week that he was suppose to get thing right and has even contacted gw.....

the thing i hate about gw is there monopoly on these games.....

if three countries can get it right,then canada do it to.....two bads don't make it right.....if we want the spike to be great then wehave to start working now for next year......

CyberHare - May 18, 2006 - 06:30 PM
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All I'm saying is that there's plenty of blame to go around and I wouldn't start with Baccuus to dish it out. I've helped run GW BB events at Games Day before and I can assure you it's no picnic. Heck the last time I showed up and they had no idea who I was even though I had confirmed twice that I was coming Rolling Eyes

Paul - May 18, 2006 - 09:52 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

Heck the last time I showed up and they had no idea who I was even though I had confirmed twice that I was coming Rolling Eyes

Well, to be fair. I show up at events all the time and I have no idea who you are either.

CyberHare - May 19, 2006 - 03:40 AM
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Spazzfist - May 19, 2006 - 06:58 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

I'll grant you that the TO job can be hectic, and I will mroe than agree with you about the fact that working with GW can be next to impossible - believe me I have also been there!

But the fact that Baccus has remained largely unavailable during this time of turmoil is really what kicks me in the gonads. Sure we all have busy schedules, but to say you only have time to eat, work and sleep is a bit of an exaggeration. When you are the TO of a tourney that is going down the s***ter then MAKE THE DAMN TIME! People are looking to you for answers and you have to be there for them. Full stop.

Keep in mind that I am not putting all the blame on him - GW still holds the lion's share of that one, but I think the whole thing was poorly handled. Be like the Navy captains and go down with your ship!

skaven27 - May 19, 2006 - 08:29 AM
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i agree with spazz on this one..... it takes two to tango and baccuus and gw should take the fall on this one......

if you don't have the time then you should live it to some1 that does....

i would love to organize a tourney but i don't even have to paint my figs so i won't even try............

Rune_Master - May 19, 2006 - 08:57 AM
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I'm not trying to be a smart-ass and I know I am jumping in on this discussion really late, but I was wondering...could somebody sum up what exactly is wrong with the Spike!, and what was expected of Baccus and/or GW that wasn't fulfilled? I tried reading the thread but it got really confusing...

skaven27 - May 19, 2006 - 09:38 AM
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gw is having the spike a one day tourney the saturday of gamesday......

baccuus is saying it's a two day tournament friday-saturday......

they can't seem to get things together before they started selling tickets.....

and now baccuus can't be seen anywhere........

the spike got screwed up cause of a lack of communication on every1's part

Baccuus2099 - May 19, 2006 - 10:33 AM
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I am going to take the advice of my peers on this one and make this years Spike a two day tourney.

Friday will be a Spike Mini! Tournament, while Saturday will be the Spike! itself, following the same rules that I have posted earlier on in the thread.

I thank you all for your comments, and I will take whatever blame comes my way for this. However please keep in mind that I am doing all that I can to put this event into motion, and keep it to what it should be. If I had known that it would be this hectric for me at this point in time I would have done a lot of things differently. However what's done is done, and I hope that everyone can show up at some point over the two days and enjoy what is available.

I am sorry that this event didn't come out the way I had hoped, and I assure you all that your comments and suggestions have been greatly aprreciated.

I hope to see some of you next week.

Baccuus

skaven27 - May 19, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

are so saying friday doesn't count towards saturday?

will skills carry over from friday or will everything reset itself for saturday?

Paul - May 19, 2006 - 12:22 PM
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If Friday doesn't count towards Saturday, than the skills earned on Friday should also not count.

I might show up on Saturday now. Still not 100% sure. But its alot easier for me to get to the MTCC than it is to Oakville

Hoshi_Komi - May 19, 2006 - 12:24 PM
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maybe usa's chaos cup will ouy perform the spike..........

Spazzfist - May 19, 2006 - 12:48 PM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

Baccus,

I know it sucks being on the receiving end of so much flak, but just chalk all this up to experience!

But I believe that while it would be the easiest thing in the world to pass all the blame to GW, that would mean that you are not willing to learn from the mistakes made, and you would be doomed to make some of them again.

I appreciate what you are saying. Good on you.

I wish you all the best next weekend, but as I said before I will not be able to attend.

Spazz

Xtreme - May 19, 2006 - 04:15 PM
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Baccuus have you entered the tournament into the NAF site yet? Or are you just planning on having it not count?

Deathwing - May 19, 2006 - 04:38 PM
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Both Friday and Saturday games will count for ranking.

Baccuus2099 - May 19, 2006 - 05:32 PM
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Quote:

are so saying friday doesn't count towards saturday?

will skills carry over from friday or will everything reset itself for saturday?

Unfortunately YES that is what I am saying. It wouldn't be fair for the ppl only showing on Saturday to face a TR 100 team with three extra skill on them while they are starting fresh. Since this is going to be two tourneys basically, it will be held as two tourneys. New TR 100 teams for both days.

Clan_Skaven - May 19, 2006 - 06:38 PM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

Quote:

are so saying friday doesn't count towards saturday?

will skills carry over from friday or will everything reset itself for saturday?

Thats why I suggested it a few posts back (best way to solve the issue)

Rod

Trojan65 - May 19, 2006 - 07:49 PM
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Hey at least we finally got an answer! Yeah I'm going to agree with everyone and toss some apologies baccuss's way, we blood bowlers can be harsh, but sometimes you got to fess up on some of ur mistakes....

A two seperate tournament is pretty cool, should do well, keep in mind everyone that the saturday is the "REAL" tournament, so that's the one that everyone should be at!

Good luck to anyone who's going!

Clan_Skaven - May 20, 2006 - 12:40 AM
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Trojan65 wrote:

I looked at the talent showing up on the Saturday & a wet noodle can win! Laughing

Rod

Xtreme - May 20, 2006 - 07:17 AM
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You better get up there then Rod, this might be your chance. Wink

Trojan65 - May 20, 2006 - 07:43 AM
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Quote:

You better get up there then Rod, this might be your chance.

I second that

skaven27 - May 21, 2006 - 06:53 AM
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well baccuus i think that is making the best of a bad situation....

well i will see you saturday and maybe even get the opportunity to play against you............

Baccuus2099 - May 21, 2006 - 10:57 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

well i will see you saturday and maybe even get the opportunity to play against you............

No promises but if we do get matched up, get ready fer a fight. My Boyz are itching fer a scrap.

skaven27 - May 23, 2006 - 05:00 AM
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if i play my chaos i will bring the scrap, but if i play skaven you will have to catch me first.................

are you giving any skills before game start or just after the first game?

Spazzfist - May 23, 2006 - 08:19 AM
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So who is planning on going on Friday? (Not that I am looking for an excuse to take a day off work or anything..... Wink

)

Baccuus2099 - May 23, 2006 - 10:22 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

are you giving any skills before game start or just after the first game?

Skills are given out at the end of the game, it will be a dice roll done by the Ref, or Records Keeper!

skaven27 - May 23, 2006 - 11:46 AM
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thanx baccuus..see you saturday

skaven27 - May 24, 2006 - 07:46 AM
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baccuus i was wondering what the prize catagories are going to be for saturday..... other than 1st 2nd 3rd...

Wolfhowl - May 24, 2006 - 08:14 AM
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We have best painted, Best Defence, Bag of Wheat, Best Scorer, etc.

All the Standard ones.

Taxal - May 24, 2006 - 10:22 AM
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Are they trophies ro something else. Also has GW donated any prizes.

Baccuus2099 - May 24, 2006 - 10:23 AM
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Thx wolfhowl for answering that one for me. For everyones info Wolfhowl is a member of MOBB and has been with me for every meeting that has happened between myself and GW. He knows exactly what is planned for the tourney

Baccuus2099 - May 24, 2006 - 10:24 AM
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Taxal wrote:

Are they trophies ro something else. Also has GW donated any prizes.

GW is providing all of the prizes, and I think (not confirmed yet, no answer from GW) that there will be a trophy for Fri mini tourney as well as Sat main event.

skaven27 - May 24, 2006 - 11:29 AM
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stats from friday won't carry over to saturday will it, like #td's or casualties..... each day will be seperated?

Wolfhowl - May 24, 2006 - 02:29 PM
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Consider the Friday prizes confirmed. I talked to the GW guy this morning.

Wolfhowl - May 24, 2006 - 02:31 PM
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Aye Skaven27, each day is seperated.

Spazzfist - May 24, 2006 - 06:00 PM
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Wolfhowl wrote:

Aye Skaven27, each day is seperated.

Gawd, you're not going to start with that Scottish accent thing again are you? Shocked

Clan_Skaven - May 24, 2006 - 08:31 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Wolfhowl wrote:

Aye Skaven27, each day is seperated.

Gawd, you're not going to start with that Scottish accent thing again are you? Shocked

Don't insult true Scottsmen, if it is half as bad as you described Spazz its more like "Fake Scottish Accents" Rolling Eyes

Rod

Wolfhowl - May 24, 2006 - 08:59 PM
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No man, he's right. It's the worst Fake Scottish Accent you have ever heard! My routes do strech back to Scottland, (part of the Frasher Clan).

That being said, I have fun doing it, so don't be surprised if you hear it.

Wolfhowl

Clan_Skaven - May 25, 2006 - 04:28 AM
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Wolfhowl wrote:

Well my roots go back closer than that both parents were born in Glasgow, so trust me if its a crrrap accent I'll tell ya!

Heck I could probably even get my dad to play the pipes at a BB tourney for handing out the trophy (that is if my dad really wanted to hang out with all us geeks Crying or Very sad

)

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 25, 2006 - 09:18 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Well my roots go back closer than that both parents were born in Glasgow, so trust me if its a crrrap accent I'll tell ya!

Trust me, it's a crap accent! And he has been told!

Okay - last minute change of heart. Spazzfist will be coming out - but for Friday only. I will be bringing along my son of 14 to his first ever tourney as well. He's played quite a few games, but it has been a while, so he may be a bit rusty. But do not let his age fool you, he may kick some of yer a$$es! Twisted Evil

I mean, after all he did learn from me! Cool

(Shut up Paul and Rod)

<the above is in anticipation of the inevitable smart a$$ comments>! Wink

Spazz

Paul - May 25, 2006 - 09:46 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

]

(Shut up Paul and Rod)

<the above is in anticipation of the inevitable smart a$$ comments>! Wink

Spazz

Geze you can find a better teacher than that. I'll show him how to play for $10 an hour and a beer Smile

Course, then your son would kick your ass left right an center.

Oh yea, you said to shut up Smile

Have fun on friday Spazz. I may show up on Saturday or not. not sure yet.
/

Paul

Clan_Skaven - May 26, 2006 - 12:23 AM
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Ok its 4:34 am May 26th

Now I can get a ione way train to Oakville to attend Friday it leaves here at like, 6:40am & arrives in Oakville at 8:11 am! then I guess cab it to bunker, but I have no idea how I'd get back home Friday!

Damn you Spazz deciding at last minute!

Rod.

(if I'm there great, but don't hold yer breath)

Clan_Skaven - May 26, 2006 - 02:38 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Ok it is really 4:34am , not sure why time on post says 1ish....

Rod

Spazzfist - May 26, 2006 - 05:58 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Well Duh! You should have said something man, arrangements could have been made!

Hope to see you there.

Baccuus2099 - May 26, 2006 - 07:00 AM
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Gentlemen it is 9:00 Friday morning, I am leaving in 15 min for the Bunker!

All I have to say is:

LET'S GET READY TO RUMBLE!!!

Spazzfist - May 26, 2006 - 04:39 PM
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The only rumbling going on now is in my belly!

The mini-Spike is over, and happy to say that the Brampton Blowflies took the whole thing baby! Woo hoo! Nurgle's Rotters prevailed and were able to win all three of their games and also scored best painted.

Kudos to Baccus and crew for making the most out of a bad situation. It was a fun day, and my son Daniel was asking to come back to another tourney.

The only thing I can say now, is get those rankings up! This should put me in top spot for Nurgle coach in the world! Yeah baby! Cool

Thanks again MOBB! Hope that all goes well for tomorrow.

Baccuus2099 - May 26, 2006 - 05:02 PM
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Spazz I am glad you enjoyed, thanks fer the good review.

I will be posting the results today, after I get my little one to bed!

See ya tomorrow

Clan_Skaven - May 27, 2006 - 04:01 AM
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Ok I drank alot last night & no sleep, so bring it!

Ya baby I'm here in TO & my rats are ready to win the real SPIKE (not some rooky trophy that just any SPAZZ can win! Very Happy

May the best Rat team from Hell Pit win!

Will it be me "Hell Pit Wildrats" or my rival Hell Pit team that I know will be there!

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 27, 2006 - 09:13 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Ya baby I'm here in TO & my rats are ready to win the real SPIKE (not some rooky trophy that just any SPAZZ can win! Very Happy

The onyl thing that you will be holding in your hands is your head as you are systematically defeated by every opponent you play!

I may have a "rookie" trophy as you put it, but that is still one more trophy than you have there big guy! Twisted Evil

Spazz

KarlLagerbottom - May 27, 2006 - 09:15 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 27, 2006 - 02:31 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Ya baby I'm here in TO & my rats are ready to win the real SPIKE (not some rooky trophy that just any SPAZZ can win! Very Happy

Spazz

Well lets see an interesting tourney

Game 1 vs Vampires won 3-1 (2-2 CAS) Robert Hosek
Game 2 vs Skaven won 5-0 (3-1 CAS) Paul Connors
Game 3 vs Skaven won 4-0 (2-0 CAS) Anthony _______?

I um won the tourney & the SPIKE not the wee lil bobby pin some SPAZZ won yesturday.

Rod

I want to thank Keven & Rick & our record keeper I do not know her name but it was a fun tourney & it went as smooth as one could expect!

(except when the guy who annouced my team name as the "Hell Pit Wildknights" not the real name the "Hell Pit Wildrats" as I was awarded the SPIKE!

Great job again guys & thanks to all my opponents as well as those I never played. Good job guys.

Rod.

Baccuus2099 - May 27, 2006 - 04:11 PM
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Hey Rod. Dave wants me to inform you that the only reason that you won the Spike! is because you never had to face his Gobby team!

I'm sure they would have ruined yer 3-0 record!

And BTW the records keepers name (my wife) is Robyn

Spazzfist - May 27, 2006 - 07:09 PM
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Woot woot! A big congrats to Rod for winning the Spike! Very Happy

The big lummox is actually over here with me tonight, the two Spike! champions had a victory feast at Mandarin and are planning to drink heavily!

Looks like Team T.U.N.A. (The Underdogs of North America) was not such a bad idea after all! Cool

Spazz

P.S. Hey Paul...... how did you do there big guy? Didya win? Enjoying playing with the rats? Hmmm? Laughing

KarlLagerbottom - May 27, 2006 - 07:14 PM
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Man...what a Farce...I can't wait to see the list of participants at this/these events. Smile

Rod giving up 1 TD in three games and Spazz winning best painted are probably pretty good indicators of the turn-out.

And Paul...If you went to this...I imagine that your attention was turned more toward the Oilers than to Blood Bowl. (There is your excuse if you made it to The Spike?.)

PLEASE NOTE: I purposely put the question mark there...these results definately knock the Exclamation Point out of the title.

Smile

EDIT: I see that not only did Paul make it, but he lost 5-0 to Rod. I guess anything can happen in a dice game. Smile

EDIT2: By the way...Congrats to both of you!

Paul - May 27, 2006 - 07:39 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

And Paul...If you went to this...I imagine that your attention was turned more toward the Oilers than to Blood Bowl. (There is your excuse if you made it to The Spike?.)

EDIT: I see that not only did Paul make it, but he lost 5-0 to Rod. I guess anything can happen in a dice game. Smile

EDIT2: By the way...Congrats to both of you!

Hey Rob,

yea, I went 2-1 on the day that I was at (today) and took home best painted for the Saturday tournmanet.

My first game was against baccuss2099 there, and it was a blow out as my rats took advantage of his turnovers running up a 5-1 score.

My second game was against Rods Skaven, where my Ratogre rolled 5 or 6 doube skulls or double both-downs (or any combination of the two) as well as Rod injuring my Stormvirmin with Tackle and KOed 2 gutters who stayed out until turn 6 or 7 of the second half. Yea, my dice killed me in that game and I lost hard, knocking me out of any chance to win the tournament.

Game 3 was against Bre's (Sp??) Wood Elfs. It was a 3-1 win for me and we each caused a casualty.

It was a good day, but really, 1 day (3 rounds) to decide a tournament is definatly not a good idea. Overall I finished 4th of the 10 people who were there.

And yea, I was thinking about the Oilers, now, back to that game.

Spazzfist - May 28, 2006 - 04:49 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Man...what a Farce...I can't wait to see the list of participants at this/these events. Smile

Rod giving up 1 TD in three games and Spazz winning best painted are probably pretty good indicators of the turn-out.

That's pretty harsh man! At least I paint my own teams! (And for the record, I think I am a pretty good painter, just not likely to win when stacked up against the likes of Ben and Kolja).

As for our wins, thanks for the congrats. I would rather have a win than a wooden spoon anyday!

Spazz

KarlLagerbottom - May 28, 2006 - 06:08 PM
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Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 06:02 AM
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Kevin, if you still need my NAF # its 2854.

Rod

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 06:25 AM
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i had a fun time.....unfortunatly there was only ten people.....the funny was my to first games were played against my neighbors...... 500 km to play my neighbors........the spike was in my hands until last game when my dice decided to play aganst me not my opponents.....

game 1 only last a half, my dice injured 8 wood elfs (7 done by rats and 1 by a woodelf jumping to his doom) 5-0 felt bad Sad

game 2 4-0 against ogres.... great game

game 3 0-4 against rats for the title and game 1 came back to haunt me i should did nothing....wait that is what i did.....

1 day open tournament sucks.....it was good considering how it got screwed up.....

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 08:18 AM
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HAhaha, SPAZZ, your still not the best Nurgle Coach in the world!

Rod.

Laughing

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 08:38 AM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Man...what a Farce...I can't wait to see the list of participants at this/these events. Smile

EDIT: I see that not only did Paul make it, but he lost 5-0 to Rod. I guess anything can happen in a dice game. Smile

EDIT2: By the way...Congrats to both of you!

Firstly All I gotta say is lagerbottom just cause you know not what the winning end of a BB tourney looks like, means thers no reason to hate us who stand there & bask in its glory! Laughing

You do have your own tournament legacy that I'll (or anyone will probably ever see) yes you have your collection of wooden spoons! Wink

(did you get a rack for them yet? I hear you have quite the large collection mounting up Laughing

)

Paul has no excuses (not the Oilers or any of that!) funny thing had it been me that lost to him 5-0 it would be "typical game for Rod..." but when I win by that score its, "Wow Paul musta been distracted or something..." (Wheres the respect? Confused

)

Not that I have to defend SPAZZ (he only won the imitation SPIKE anyway
Razz

) But Lagerbottom have you seen some of his modles or his stadiums he has built, they are a pretty good job, (like SPAZZ said he will probably never win best painted when Ben or others are around) & as far as I know you don't even paint yer own modles so why are you even blabbering about who wins the best painted? Rolling Eyes

(Now if you wanna tease SPAZZ about not winning the "REAL" SPIKE tourney or that he just missed top spot in the world rankings for Nurgle by a smidgen, then please do Wink

)

EDIT #1 "anything can happen in a dice game, but why is it when its me, its called a dice game but when its someone else, its "what a great job..."

EDIT #2 Thanks for the congrats Smile

Rod, 2006 SPIKE Champion!

Spazzfist - May 29, 2006 - 08:57 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

HAhaha, SPAZZ, your still not the best Nurgle Coach in the world!

Rod.

Laughing

Yeah, what the hell is up with that? I got less than 2 points for each of my wins? I thought this was supposed to be a major! Why the crappy ranking bonus? Can someone explain?

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 09:13 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

HAhaha, SPAZZ, your still not the best Nurgle Coach in the world!

Rod.

Laughing

Yeah, what the hell is up with that? I got less than 2 points for each of my wins? I thought this was supposed to be a major! Why the crappy ranking bonus? Can someone explain?

Spazz

All yer opponents were lower than you in rankings, plus even though it was "a Major" it had only 6 people, & even with a "Major" ranking bonus 6 people will lower the bonus considerably. Your not going to get as much a score had it had like 20 - 30 people.

Rod

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 09:26 AM
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Spazz, CRY ME A RIVER!!!!!!! You really have no clue how bad your opponents were, Do you???? First of all you had 5 people that were NAF ranked. Secondly the guys you played were Harry Potter who was a rookie coach with a rating of 150. Your second opponent.....Wolfhowl a coach rating of 151.6 and your third opponent Baccus a coach rating of a whopping 133.88. WOW!!!!!!! That is some tough competition Pal!!!! I know that I really shouldn't bash your competition but COME ON!!!! I had to listen to you and Rod go on and on about this crap yesterday and I told you guys yesterday that your competition SUCKED!!!!! I know Rod is going to go on about facing Paul in the second round on Saturday but we all know how good Paul is with his Skaven recently!!!!! Oh Yeah, How does someone lose 5-0 to ROD????? Can anyone tell me what is worse, Losing 5-0 to Rod or going 0-5 at the North America Cup??? You and Rod should just shut your mouths....stop bragging about your cheesy victories over crap competition, before you guys look worse than you already do.

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 09:31 AM
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Talons wrote:

"sniff-sniff..."
Do I smell a nint of jealousy?

Hey Talons you got something on yer chin there..... Oh nevermind its just a lil bit of the Bull**** that you just babbled out!

Rod

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 09:31 AM
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One more thing.......Rod you even admitted to me yesterday that Robert Hosek was your toughest opponent on Saturday!!!! Well I hope you know that you are talking about the worst coach in Canada!!!! I am not sure where he ranks with his Vampires but with his norse his coach rating is a STELLAR 115.19. I think I have said enough!!!!!!!

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 09:47 AM
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Hey Talons I at least am not afraid to try & dig my rating out of the hole I at one time had a 114.95 coach rating with my Rats, but I plugged away & fought to bring it back up (now 140.23, not a great rank but alot greater than where it was)

You on the other hand played your Pro Elves in one tourney & won 2 games lost 4 , & dropped to a rating of 139.21 (133.86 was your lowest point) Now you just gave up on them. Went & tried other races (Orc , CD's ), but have not tried to raise your elves up any.

Whats the matter are we a lil scared? Are you not good enough to bring your elves back up? CHICKEN Exclamation

Lets see you get your Elves past 150!

I bet my Rats will get there before your Elves will!

But you wont do it, yer too afraid to even try.....

Rolling Eyes

Rod!

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 09:48 AM
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Jealous?????? Of what????? Rod give your head a shake.....You know as well as I do that the MOBB are some of the weakest players on the circuit. You would have the right to brag about beating a field that included Ben, Kolja, Cam, Bud and so on!!!!! Look at your competition. They fall far in comparison to the talent I have just mentioned. I know the game of Bloodbowl is based on dice rolls but strategy counts....and sorry to say the Mobb lacks strategy. When they have a guy who shows up to a tourney with Orcs and doesn't buy RR's because he doesn't need them. Or a guy who will forget about even trying to score a TD or play for the win because the casulty is more important. Come on!!!!

To prove my comments above, look at their rankings....Hosek last in Canada with a 115.19CR, Wolfhowl 5th from the bottom with a 127.46 CR and Baccus with a 134.53 CR who sits 12th from the bottom. Paul with his Skaven has a whopping CR of 128.49 for 6th from the bottom.

You guys should be embarassed to even be on here bragging about your victories at the Spike 06!!!! GW Canada has turned this tourney into a joke but you guys are giving them a run for their money!!!!!!!

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 09:51 AM
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Talons wrote:

"sniff-sniff" that jealous odor is still floating around in the room....

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 09:57 AM
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mr talons are you talking about not trying to win?

Wolfhowl - May 29, 2006 - 10:04 AM
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Talons wrote:

Wolfhowl 5th from the bottom with a 127.46

I'll have you know that I'm ranked 45/104 in Canada with my Chaos team (151.69), Making me the Highest ranked Chaos team in Canada!!!!!

The founder of our league is the number 1 Goblin Team in the World!!! (Da_Scum)

Have a little respect for the MOBB, we are young, we are growing, and we will dominate!!!!

Spazzfist - May 29, 2006 - 10:04 AM
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Talons wrote:

Talons,

That's harsh man. Maybe the competition wasn't as good as you would find at the Deathbowl or other tourneys, but you don't have to slam these guys. I mean what have they done to you?

And you know only one side of the story when it comes to the Nurgle rankings. You look at the guy who is ranked #1 in the world and he went to ONE tourney, and has a 4/1/2 record. I have been to two tourneys and have a 6/1/2 record. How do you know how tough his opponents were? sure, maybe my oppponents at the Spike! were not as tough as some of the other out there, but keep in mind that I did beat Gken at the Deathbowl, and he is ranked #1 in America!

I know the rankings are dodgy at best, but c'mon give me a break!

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:06 AM
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Skaven27......Are you on crack????? Obviously you should have somewhat of a clue before you open your mouth!!!!! I was talking about Robert Hosek from the MOBB who has a history of playing for the casulty bonus in tourneys instead of playing for the win. I think you should start coming to more tourneys before you speak out about stuff you have no idea about!!!! Twisted Evil

Baccuus2099 - May 29, 2006 - 10:11 AM
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Talons wrote:

Easy fer you t badmouth when you didn't even show up for it!!

If you don't show up fer a tourny don't badmouth those that do

Baccuus2099 - May 29, 2006 - 10:18 AM
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Talons wrote:

Close yer yap! And if you can't talk with respect in here, then don't come in

The ppl who showed up, and played have every right to lip off about how things were, but at least they had the guts to show up and play. You, hell you probably didn't even have the brain cells needed to wake up. Do us all a favour and get lost.

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:18 AM
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Wolfhowl wrote:

Talons wrote:

Wolfhowl 5th from the bottom with a 127.46

Where do I start with this one???? The MOBB will never dominate!!!! You guys will always be bottom feeders at the tourneys.

As far as you being the highest ranked coach in Canada with Chaos...Are you the only one who plays them????? Laughing

As for your founder Mr David Sutton. I would like to see David play a tourney with Naf block dice instead of his suspected weighted dice. I know this is going to cause a ripple effect from this comment but I am not the only one who has questioned those dice!!!!!! I am just the only one who has the balls to print it here for everyone to see. I will tell you one thing, if and when I get the chance to play Mr Sutton.....his Dino dice will not be used. We will see how good his team is then, when you take away those crooked dice.

Paul - May 29, 2006 - 10:19 AM
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Talons wrote:

I know Rod is going to go on about facing Paul in the second round on Saturday but we all know how good Paul is with his Skaven recently!!!!! Oh Yeah, How does someone lose 5-0 to ROD????? Can anyone tell me what is worse, Losing 5-0 to Rod or going 0-5 at the North America Cup??? You and Rod should just shut your mouths....stop bragging about your cheesy victories over crap competition, before you guys look worse than you already do.

Hey Talons,

you played my Rats at the Canadian Open right? How did that turn out for ya? Hmmmm, oh yea, I won.

Baccuus2099 - May 29, 2006 - 10:22 AM
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Talons wrote:

Back Off! Quit spewing yer verbal s**t, no one wants to hear from you.
Come out to the Bunker in Oakville, and I'll play you a game, and wipe up the pitch with ya. If you have the guts.

If you can get yer head out of yer ascii fer the length of time it takes me to kick it, you'll have done something worthwhile today.

And BTW dipstick, his block dice ARE NAF dice, here's a quarter buy a clue

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:26 AM
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Listen Baccus!!! Why would I waste my time coming to a tourney that has been screwed up for the last 2 years. The Spike is only a major by name, the tourney is a farce!!!! The past 2 years GW Canada has tried everything to destroy this tourney. I give you and your squad full marks in trying to put up with GW bull crap. Rod told me that it was alright!!!!
So you should be congratulated for that but you still will not get more than the 10 people who have shown up the past 2 years. The Bloodbowl community knows that the Spike has become a joke and it will stay a joke until GW releases it's rights to the tourney.

Wolfhowl - May 29, 2006 - 10:29 AM
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Talons wrote:

Insult my league all you wish, call us bottom feeder. That's fine, you are entitled to your opinion, (you are quite wrong, and I suppect a bit daft in the head, but you are welcome to your opinion), but do NOT question the Honour and integrity of one of my leaguemates.

David Sutton is a good and honest player. I have used those dino dice, and they have always rolled fair. Calling him a cheat only proves that you are a small and petty loser.

Shut the Fu*k up!

Baccuus2099 - May 29, 2006 - 10:30 AM
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I agree with you on that one. WHOLE F**KING HEARTEDLY.

However don't lip off to those who showed up, when you didn't have the stones to.

As fer being bottomfedders I take great offence to that. Who are you to call me a bottom feeder?? Yeah sure my team is low ranked but at least I'm trying to bring em up, and in the tournies I've been to my dice have hated me. But at least I show up and put up a fight.

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:32 AM
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Baccus

The forum is here for people opinions on different things. If you can't handle my comments then don't read them.

I will play you anytime, as I will not back down from anyone...especially from the MOBB!!!! Laughing

I will see you soon, are you going to the Kermit???? If you are hopefully we will get matched up there. If not then I guess I'll see you around. I am going to take pure pleasure in kicking your a$$ all over the board.

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 10:37 AM
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talons i just checked your record and i think the expo's had a better record....... so if anyone should keep thier mouth shut it should be you.....

i have seen less bs come out of a mule's a$$ than your mouth.....

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:39 AM
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Wolfhowl

I challenge you to put up a poll in regards to asking people what they think of the Dino Dice!!!! I am sure that if you ask, If people believe they are weighted or crooked, the majority will respond with a yes.

Baccus as far as you guys being bottomfeeders......YOU ARE!!!! Live with it!!! I will see you guys on the pitch in the near future!!!!!

Baccuus2099 - May 29, 2006 - 10:41 AM
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Yer on, better pray to Nuffle, cause I'm comming fer you. Gunna bust you up a bit (on pitch of course) and teach you a little RESPECT.

Oh and big whup de do, you sit higher than I do in the rankings. It's a game bubba, it ain't life n death

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 10:51 AM
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Listen Skaven27, I will say this S L O W so you can understand!!!! Anyone who is losing 2-0 at the start of the second half in the championship game and rolls 7 stuns on a pitch invasion. Then decides to play stall ball so that he can manage the time to get the keeping it close bonus is not to bright!!!!!! You go to tourneys to win, not to finish second best!!!! BTW for those who were not at the Spike06, This is a move that Anthony tried to establish at the tourney. Rod then swooped in and stole the ball ran downfield, handoff to another GR, moved farther down the field only to throw to another GR and score to make it 3-0.

A move like that only groups you in with the MOBB for strategic planning.

Kolja_TBBF - May 29, 2006 - 11:00 AM
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Clan_Skaven: "Hey Talons you got something on yer chin there..... Oh nevermind its just a lil bit of the Bull**** that you just babbled out!"

Oh SNAP! Nice one.

K

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 11:00 AM
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at the start of the second when you can roll 3 to break armour doesn't help your cost........now listen up num nuts.....i was trying to help my cause....yes i had 7 stuns on the pitch evasion..... i tryed to help self by stalling.....going for a tied with a few casualties.....since you don't play skaven i will teach you something......(and since my wife teach mentally handicap kid i should be able to teach you).... 1 mistake against skaven and you are done for it......i figured if i could get 1 to casualties on my opponent it would open the field for me..... i scored touchdowns with have 5 to six players on the field..... but being down 2 guys in the second half against a full skaven team can be difficult.....what went wrong was my dice rolls were crap and i couldn't do a thing....

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 11:03 AM
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Your wife must teach you!!!!!!

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 11:05 AM
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LOL!!!!!! I am so glad that Clan Skaven asked me to respond to some of this crap on here. I am having alot of fun stirring up the MOBB and Skaven27.

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 11:08 AM
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maybe next time your wife will let out to play.....then i will show you how to play bb......

and i won't feel be when my rats run awild over you

Ben - May 29, 2006 - 11:09 AM
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Thanks for the entertainment guys.

Wolfhowl - May 29, 2006 - 11:09 AM
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Talons wrote:

You are on.

I'm putting it up in the General section.

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 11:12 AM
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Dude...Your going to be disappointed!!!!! Many people in the Bloodbowl Community have talked about his dice. You better make sure that he is okay with you doing it first. You wouldn't want to piss your leader off especially if he gets embarassed by the results.

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 11:20 AM
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i hate to do this but i agrre with talon on the dice thing.... in deathbowl last there was someone with home made block.... the tourneys prove the 6 siders then we as players should use the dice that come with the game or naf dice....

you don't bring dice to the casino...............

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 11:31 AM
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Hey BEN

If you have time to read the posts then where are the results from the Canadian OPEN???? Get to work!!

Spazzfist - May 29, 2006 - 11:32 AM
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Ben wrote:

Thanks for the entertainment guys.

Does it make it easier to enjoy when you are not being called the loser? Confused

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 11:36 AM
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As I sit up on my throne & look down at the many little people & thier squabbles I laugh & think to myself.....

Hey I'm the 2006 SPIKE Champion!

Talons - May 29, 2006 - 11:37 AM
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W H A T E V E R !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 11:53 AM
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Suddenly there is an almost silent hush that cascades across the room....

What happened?....

From almost complete Chaos & utter carnage in here, to nothing?...

Oh well it was fun while it lasted....

Cheer up guys I'm sure we all will laugh at this in the future.....(well I'm sure I will Wink

)

Rod.

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 11:54 AM
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well rod enjoy for now i will take it away next time

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 11:56 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

well rod enjoy for now i will take it away next time

I will enjoy it trust me.....

As Trev from the TBBF before me & Ben from the TBBF before him, I will enjoy being the SPIKE Champion & hope to do something they could not do & that is defend my prize!

Rod

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 12:05 PM
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did you get some sort of plaque?

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 12:09 PM
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skaven27 wrote:

did you get some sort of plaque?

I got the 2 boxes of skaven modles, plastic Rat Ogres & plastic Night Runners

GW Canada at the 1st SPIKE tourney gave the winners a piece of paper with thier name written on it. (most indipendant tournies do better prizes than GW)

but I did get the 2 boxes (more than I honestly expected so I'm not complaining)

Rod.

Paul - May 29, 2006 - 12:14 PM
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I really liked the starter paint set that I got for best painted Very Happy

It would have been cooler if I hadn't had just bought alot of those paints again a couple months back.

Heh, the prizes were a nice bonus, I didn't expect them, but I just found it a little ironic that thats what they gave away.

skaven27 - May 29, 2006 - 12:18 PM
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well rod it might be awhile before we square off again

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 12:44 PM
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Now that all the verbal scrapping is gone, I'm just wondering when you will have the results for day two up? (I know its only 2 days later & most ppl take longer than 2 days to get em in, "Ben you reading this Wink

) But you had the first day entered in record time, so I was just curious as to when you were gonna get the 2nd day into the system.

Thanks Baccus in advance, Rod.

Spazzfist - May 29, 2006 - 12:58 PM
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Yeah, wouldn't that suck if they lost the results and you were never officially noted as the Champion in the rankings! Laughing

Rod, you may be the Spike! Champ, and I may have the bobby pin, as you put it. But you and I know that in all the games we have played you have NEVER beaten me, so you can just consider yourself damned lucky that I was not there to deny you your ONE moment of glory. Enjoy it you big rat ogre, who knows when you will ever be able to bask in such glory again!

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 29, 2006 - 02:35 PM
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Well we were both 3-0-0 & there was another guy at my tourney that was 3-0-0, but my points still beat you & him, I had 200, you had 190, & the other fellow 180.

So yousee as far as the SPIKE goes I'm still the champ, lol!

Rod.

Taxal - May 29, 2006 - 02:51 PM
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well i can official say that i still suck with the Ogre team.
but at least i have fun with them. i think next year i will bring a team alittle easier to play with......damn BONEHEAD rolls.

thanks to all my opponents and everyone else that put up with my screaming during the games. i think i might get a little to excited during the games. sorry about that.

well just 5 months till death bowl and the mighty halflings will be there.

ciao

taxal

Paul - May 29, 2006 - 02:58 PM
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Taxal,

I didn't get a chance to check out your team roster on Saturday, but I'm kinda wondering what you took on your team? 6 Ogres, 5 Gobos 2 RR 1 FF or something else.

Kinda curious.

Da_Scum - May 29, 2006 - 03:11 PM
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Sorry the whole dice thing is cracking me up in REAMS of laughter on it, by all means post the poll so I can VOTE against my own dino dice! Very Happy

What the heck would I be embarrassed about? Dice are always usable by other players....always willing to use other dice, and the seeing how streaky the blasted things get at times I wonder myself if they are loaded (When the sixes chain goes along) or broken completely! (when the 1's chain kicks in fiercely in many a tournie, boy does it balance out in the strangest of ways!)

It's why many a time I'm more then happy to use the other dice when either it's the rules or requested...by opponent OR me! Laughing

So if he puts the poll out there he's going to have to make it an interesting choices of votes from experience. Loaded, Not-Loaded, Streaky, etc. Wink

Either way if anyone wants me to use other dice, and better still as has happened a few times wants to use them then by all means! (Means the curse of their streakiness can spread and contaiminate perfectly good dice... Shocked

)

Though I still think the ceremonial dunking of the Dino Dice into a Pint of Guinness does do wonders.... Razz

Da_Scum - May 29, 2006 - 03:29 PM
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But seriously, did the players at this thing remember the whole spirit of the whole thing and just plain have some glourious fun and laughs? Laughing

Come on I howl when I get my Gobs a pounded in some the worst blow-outs in tournie history and shake my head when I argue the call turn one, get the coach ejected, and then they go on to play the most brilliant match versus a Dwarf team ever! Very Happy

Love how Rod nailed on the head with just keeping at it for the love of team and the play. I remember how his record was with Skaven many a times and he started thinking of abandoning his loyal rats. (The notorious Lizards with zippers and rat tails sticking out comes to mind! Embarassed

) Told him that day at the 1st Spike! after another 0-3 start to instead curse Nuffle and just have fun with them! Next thing you know the winning begins, it's not perfect, but it's all in the spirit of the game in the first place, to have a fun time no matter what the Heretic Nuffle thinks. Oh sure we hate when the dice go so wrong that it's not even a contest...that's the time to dig out the humour and laugh at the antics of a team going SO wrong. (And the bragging rights of the last 3 players on your team SOMEHOW pulling off that 1 TD to eliminate the shut out! ) Shocked

This Spike! seems to have had an uncanning knack in bringing out a lot of the worst in many, what's wrong with it bringing out some of the best as well then? New friends and old sharing in the fun of a hobby they all enjoy together, where the heck is the problem with that? So it wasn't a monster bash like the 1st Spike!, and it isn't the always great popular time that Gencon bowl...which I'm sure any poll would say chould be the Chao Cup proper, has been year after year. I've had blasts going to a small tourny out here in the West and howling as I get the little green guys pounded into the turf... (Sometimes with my Troll's own help!)

To me that's what the game is all about. Just enjoying a good time with everyone and having fun. So maybe I lack that "little extra" hunger to win it all, so what? Maybe it's why I stick to Goblins so much... and the look on poor Clan Skaven when they pull ANOTHER win away from him each time is just too much fun to pass up? Laughing

KarlLagerbottom - May 29, 2006 - 04:48 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

As I sit up on my throne & look down at the many little people & thier squabbles I laugh & think to myself.....

Hey I'm the 2006 SPIKE Champion!

This gives a whole new meaning to the phrase:
"Take it with a grain of salt."

P.S. I have won one Blood Bowl event...the 4-way Skaven DeathBowl match at last year's Gen Con. It wasn't NAF sanctioned, but the competition was gken1, Ben, and Jaylazer.

I am more upset about missing GenCon this year for that rematch than for the main tourney! Smile

Sorry Galak!

KarlLagerbottom - May 29, 2006 - 04:55 PM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Sorry the whole dice thing is cracking me up in REAMS of laughter on it, by all means post the poll so I can VOTE against my own dino dice! Very Happy

Dave...I just want to throw in my two cents on the dice...the thing that bothered me most about those dice when we played at Spazz's tourney last year...was how fast you sweep them off the board.

I'm not going to go as far as saying that they are loaded or that you are cheating...but in the name of sportsmanship you really should really give your opponent a better look at the results rolled on these "unique" dice.

-RobO

Taxal - May 29, 2006 - 06:22 PM
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Paul,

6 Ogres
5 Gobbos
1 FF
1 Re-roll

used the same roster in Death Bowl last year and had 2W-1T-3L
so not to bad but man are they hard to play with. In tourney play they suck, but in league play once you get a couple of games under your belt they totally rock. All in all they are fun to play though in tourneys. Cause total havoc with 6 strength 5 players. ALL RIGHT!!!!!

taxal

Da_Scum - May 29, 2006 - 09:25 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Da_Scum wrote:

Sorry the whole dice thing is cracking me up in REAMS of laughter on it, by all means post the poll so I can VOTE against my own dino dice! Very Happy

I never even thought of that as an issue when everyone wants to get a timed event in! Very Happy

Hey anytime someone want's to know what the sides are and the colour coding for each result just ask, never harm in it. And when anyone asks that's exactly what's been done. The problem likely lies in that the TBBF are so used to the colours of Purple Good Red BAD! that it doesn't occur that once someone has seen them that it doesn't stick. And if the numbers start "rubbing" then I retire them for a different set. (As on set four now and about to retire those as they're starting to rub badly that now with doubt as to result don't want to use them.)

So if it was ever a perceived issue, speak up! How on earth am I going to be insulted if someone asks to let the die lie for a few extra seconds? Laughing

Like the same thing with cocked dice on the pitch, establish early what a "flat" and "cocked" dice is between both opponents and it's a non-issue! (And I still blame the TBBF for sticking in my head the expression "Saved by the cock..." >shudder< Shocked

)

Besides my best memory of our match is how you dunked the same 2 players 3 FRAKKING TIMES over the side and got my Ball 'n' Chain smashing into the pole! Laughing

KarlLagerbottom - May 30, 2006 - 02:43 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

Besides my best memory of our match is how you dunked the same 2 players 3 FRAKKING TIMES over the side and got my Ball 'n' Chain smashing into the pole! Laughing

I don't quite remember that...all I seem to remember about our match is my losing 4-1 or 4-2 and that d@mn halfling pitch coming up huge for the little gitz! Smile

Darkson - May 30, 2006 - 04:07 AM
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Da_Scum wrote:

But seriously, did the players at this thing remember the whole spirit of the whole thing

[snip]

and the look on poor Clan Skaven when they pull ANOTHER win away from him each time is just too much fun to pass up? Laughing

Best post in this whole freakin' thread. Rolling Eyes

CyberHare - May 30, 2006 - 04:53 AM
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skaven27 wrote:

Someone used home made block dice at Death Bowl last year? That's news to me.

Clan_Skaven - May 30, 2006 - 05:16 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

skaven27 wrote:

Someone used home made block dice at Death Bowl last year? That's news to me.

Nope its true, but to thier defence they were still waiting for thier block dice from NAF & did not own the game box set. So they made homemade dice.

Rod

CyberHare - May 30, 2006 - 05:41 AM
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Hmmm well that's odd. Someone should have mentioned it and I would have gladly spotted them a set of dice. All well what's done is done. On to Death Bowl 2006!

Clan_Skaven - May 30, 2006 - 05:50 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

Hmmm well that's odd. Someone should have mentioned it and I would have gladly spotted them a set of dice. All well what's done is done. On to Death Bowl 2006!

So as the 2006 SPIKE Champ, do I get any speacial treatment at the 2006 Death-Bowl?

Laughing

(I can't wait to see what gets written to this, LOL! Shocked

)

Rod

Spazzfist - May 30, 2006 - 05:57 AM
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Well, seeing as you were both the best and the worst of the hair club at the "Real Spike!" as you put it, then you can give yourself the haircut at the Deathbowl! Laughing

I was just at the "Warm up", so I hardly think that that counts! Wink

EDIT - I suppose if you want more special treatment, we could always get you a set of dino dice! Very Happy

Clan_Skaven - May 30, 2006 - 06:11 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Well, seeing as you were both the best and the worst of the hair club at the "Real Spike!" as you put it, then you can give yourself the haircut at the Deathbowl! Laughing

I was just at the "Warm up", so I hardly think that that counts! Wink

EDIT - I suppose if you want more special treatment, we could always get you a set of dino dice! Very Happy

DINO Dice, good one..... Laughing

Seriously folks do not listen to the "BIZARRO" SPIKE Champ SPAZZ. Always remember in Bizarro everything is the opposite! So since your the Bizarro SPIKE Champ & I'm obviously the Official SPIKE Champ, that makes you the opposite of me! & the opposite of a champ is a chump (or Talons) Laughing

skaven27 - May 30, 2006 - 06:17 AM
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the dice at deathbowl were home made copies of naf dice, they explain and showed them before the game.... they also had home made weather dice.........

Spazzfist - May 30, 2006 - 07:15 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

that makes you the opposite of me!

Judging by your avatar I will take that as a compliment! Very Happy

You know that you only won because I was not there. Wink

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - May 30, 2006 - 08:10 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

that makes you the opposite of me!

Judging by your avatar I will take that as a compliment! Very Happy

You know that you only won because I was not there. Wink

Spazz

Speaking of avatar's whats yours? "Some homeless muppet bum in jail with no teeth?" Laughing

Rod

Talons - May 30, 2006 - 08:22 AM
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No Rod........IT"S SPAZZ in DRAG!!!!!!

Clan_Skaven - May 30, 2006 - 08:27 AM
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Talons wrote:

No Rod........IT"S SPAZZ in DRAG!!!!!!

Could be or a shot of SPAZZ or Zombie during a time when they shared a jail cell together! Laughing

Kinda looks like theres an exspression of pain on the avatar's face!

Rod.

Spazzfist - May 30, 2006 - 09:01 AM
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Talons wrote:

No Rod........IT"S SPAZZ in DRAG!!!!!!

Drag?

Where the hell do you get that from? There's a head shot only, so you cannot tell what the person is wearing, and they have a beard. Coming from the Leaf Blower, you should know better! Laughing

For the record that was a shot of me at the Deathbowl when I lost my game to Talons. What an upset that was! For me to lose to such a bottomfeeder!

Spazz

(Edit - "Bottom feeder" here when referring to Talons can be taken both figuratively and literally!) Laughing

Clan_Skaven - May 31, 2006 - 01:45 AM
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Ok I'm drunk...................

But the 2006 SPKE Magazine Champion's have to drink to thier victory eventually!

But nobody knows I won (unless this is another conspearicy to keep Clan-Skaven down!

I am the 2006 SPIKE Champion not spazzfizt:!:

So why does he get quick results & not me?,........................

Man I wish I{ had more beer ..................... BEER!

Rod!

Paul - May 31, 2006 - 06:20 AM
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Congradulations Spazz, way to go on your winning the 2006 Spike!

Not that I care, I just figure that if I bring this up now, it'll help cover up the fact that CS won Smile

Ben - May 31, 2006 - 08:49 AM
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Yes, almost forgot....CONGRATS ROD for being the 2006 Spike Champ!

I hope to meet you at the Qermitt and humble you once again.

Ben

Clan_Skaven - May 31, 2006 - 12:43 PM
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Thanks guys it warms me to feel the luv!

Embarassed

Clan_Skaven - May 31, 2006 - 10:01 PM
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A quote from Paul from another thread!

Rod,

I know you don't win much, or at all, so I hope you enjoy this and live it up man. I mean, you're just a genearl all around piss poor coach, so if you want to enjoy these few weeks that I'm below you in the standings, go for it.

I will point out that the results from the Canadian Open (where I went 3-2-1 with the rats) haven't been entered yet. I sure hope that those results don't put me up over your team, because I know you'll be crushed if you fall below me in the standings again.

Oh, and I do need some advice from you. See, you're a career never-was, never came close to winning anything, let alone a couple games at a tournament. So, really, how do you deal with being rated so badly?

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ummm Errr Ok? I see something wrong with the above quote. Wink

In fact I see someone eating some humble pie in the future! Wink

Buy me a a few beers at the Challenge of Q & we will call it even!

Rod

Ben - Jun 01, 2006 - 07:10 AM
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What thread was this pulled from?

Kinda harsh.

I hope Paul was drunk when he wrote that.

Spazzfist - Jun 01, 2006 - 07:11 AM
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Ben wrote:

What thread was this pulled from?

Kinda harsh.

I hope Paul was drunk when he wrote that.

Thank you! I said the same thing, and told Paul that he should put a smiley in or something to make it clear that he was joking. I mean it's so harsh because it is so true!

Wink

(See? that's how you do it!)

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - Jun 01, 2006 - 07:15 AM
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Ben wrote:

What thread was this pulled from?

Kinda harsh.

I hope Paul was drunk when he wrote that.

It was from the New World cup thread, it was a reply to me hacking on him for being the worst Skaven coach in Canada & going 0-0-5 while at the New World Cup!

Its not as harsh as it looks, (its all cool) but since last weeked at the 2006 SPIKE & the results of what happened with his & my game & the overall picture of the final standings of the 2006 SPKIE ended up, I figured I'd bring it up for shyts & giggles!

Rod.

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 04:33 AM
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Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Sputnik - Jun 02, 2006 - 05:31 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

the new world cup results?

Sputnik

Spazzfist - Jun 02, 2006 - 06:01 AM
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Sputnik wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

the new world cup results?

Sputnik

Beer into his gut.

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 06:04 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Sputnik wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

the new world cup results?

Sputnik

Beer into his gut.

Haha, no the SPIKE 2006 Crying or Very sad

, oh & the beer that will be later Wink

Rod

Spazzfist - Jun 02, 2006 - 06:05 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Great! Now look what you've done!

I went to check out to see if your ranking has improved, and there are no rankings for any race! Hopefully this is just temporary, but it shows you what your bellyaching gets you! Wink

Spazz

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 06:10 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Spazz

Me bellyache? I'm not the one that goes.............

"Wwaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the #1 Nurgle coach in the world!!!"
"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I never got high enough points for my wins!!!"
"Waaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the real 2006 SPIKE Champ like Rod is, plus he's better looking than me & smarter to boot!!!"

Laughing

Spazzfist - Jun 02, 2006 - 07:12 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Wwaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the #1 Nurgle coach in the world!!!"

Whether or not the ranking show it, I know it in my heart! Besides I am #1 in North America, and that's saying something!

Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I never got high enough points for my wins!!!"

Well....... I didn't!

Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the real 2006 SPIKE Champ like Rod is, plus he's better looking than me & smarter to boot!!!"

You? Better looking than me? Um, okay..... You remember that when you are hugging your pillow at night annd I am sleeping next to my beautfiul wife! Laughing

Besides, if memory serves, you still have never beaten me at Blood Bowl!

Spazz

Ben - Jun 02, 2006 - 08:47 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Stop being so annoying.

Some of us work.

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 08:49 AM
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Ben wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Stop being so annoying.

Some of us work.

LOL, but its fun.....

C'mon Ben?

Do ya need a hug big guy?

Laughing

Rod

Ben - Jun 02, 2006 - 08:53 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Ben wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

Still not entered Crying or Very sad

Rod.

Stop being so annoying.

Some of us work.

LOL, but its fun.....

C'mon Ben?

Do ya need a hug big guy?

Laughing

Rod

I can totally understand bugging me as it took me 3 month to enter in the results, but the Spike isn't even a week old.

Give the guy a break.

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 09:18 AM
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Your right Ben, & I hope Baccuus knows thats just me messing around.... (besides who here takes me seriously anyways Embarassed

)

Rod.

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 02, 2006 - 02:31 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Your right Ben, & I hope Baccuus knows thats just me messing around.... (besides who here takes me seriously anyways Embarassed

)

Rod.

Not a one of us pal...even less than we did before you became the CHUMP! 2006 World Champion.

Congrats anyway! Smile

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 02, 2006 - 02:33 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Wwaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the #1 Nurgle coach in the world!!!"

Whether or not the ranking show it, I know it in my heart! Besides I am #1 in North America, and that's saying something!

Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I never got high enough points for my wins!!!"

Well....... I didn't!

Clan-Skaven wrote:

"Waaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm not the real 2006 SPIKE Champ like Rod is, plus he's better looking than me & smarter to boot!!!"

You? Better looking than me? Um, okay..... You remember that when you are hugging your pillow at night annd I am sleeping next to my beautfiul wife! Laughing

Besides, if memory serves, you still have never beaten me at Blood Bowl!

Spazz

The scariest thing for me in this exchange? Spazz is a teacher and didn't refute CS's claim to be smarter....The Kids Of Canadia are really in for a bright future. Rolling Eyes

Spazzfist - Jun 02, 2006 - 02:49 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

The scariest thing for me in this exchange? Spazz is a teacher and didn't refute CS's claim to be smarter....

Well I figured that that was a given! Razz

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 05:56 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

The scariest thing for me in this exchange? Spazz is a teacher and didn't refute CS's claim to be smarter....The Kids Of Canadia are really in for a bright future. Rolling Eyes

Your hacking on this & you spell Canada Canadia !!! What kind of education did you get Lagerbottom?

Wink

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 05:58 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

KarlLagerbottom wrote:

The scariest thing for me in this exchange? Spazz is a teacher and didn't refute CS's claim to be smarter....

Well I figured that that was a given! Razz

& your a Canadian teacher & you never caught this error!

Rolling Eyes

Rod!

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 02, 2006 - 06:16 PM
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That's how bright you are smarty...I did that on purpose to illustrate the Dumb Teacher joke. Rolling Eyes

Pretty sad guys...

Clan_Skaven - Jun 02, 2006 - 08:51 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

That's how bright you are smarty...I did that on purpose to illustrate the Dumb Teacher joke. Rolling Eyes

Pretty sad guys...

Ya nice cop out , nice try buddy! Laughing

Rod

Spazzfist - Jun 03, 2006 - 09:07 AM
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Besides, with the way that sum of these kids spel a simpel mistake like speling canada "canadia" mite slip bye. they seem totaly determnd to ignor all that i try to teach them! stupid MSN messenger!

But now if you "loose" a game...... <IT'S "LOSE" DAMMIT!!!!> Wink

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 03, 2006 - 10:19 AM
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Rod...Like Ben said...stop being so annoying.

RobO
Mr Canadia

Clan_Skaven - Jun 04, 2006 - 01:02 AM
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Ya I'm editing my message now that I'm feeling better Cool

It was a rough night last night, I see I posted another drunken blurr! Embarassed

So I eddited it now, there we go this is ok.

See ya all later.

Rod

Spazzfist - Jun 04, 2006 - 08:48 AM
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Rod!

You're an a$$! Laughing

Clan_Skaven - Jun 09, 2006 - 12:30 AM
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Is it too early to ask when the stats will be up?

(Ben, I was polite, I'm just asking Wink

)

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Jun 16, 2006 - 03:51 AM
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If anyone needs any help with getting the results in I'[d be more than happy to assist.

Rod. Very Happy

Xtreme - Jun 16, 2006 - 03:52 AM
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and why would you want the rankings in? Wink

Clan_Skaven - Jun 22, 2006 - 07:07 AM
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Ho-hum, still not entered, & I have not seen Baccuus or Wolfhowl on here in quite some time......

Hmmm, curious, is this a cheap attempt by Spazz to try & bribe the M.O.B.B. not to enter my stats so it would appear that Spazz was the real SPIKE Champ?

Theres a foul stench in the air.....

A stench only found with the combination of two forces that make an underhanded deal....

Spazz's Nurgle Rotters & the M.O.B.B. have teamed up & have made an unholy pact to dethrone the true 2006 SPIKE Champion, myself, coach of the Hell Pit Wildrats! This Pact of thiers stinks like no other....

I will find a way to bring the truth to my fans, the people will see thier true Champion rise to the peak of BloodBowl greatness, with the recognition that he truely deserves! Yes I will break this foul stench of a rotten deal! I will defeat the Horrid Alliance of the M.O.B.B. & the Nurgle Rotters led by Spazz!

Laughing

Ok so I like to write goofy stuff sue me!

But seriously any ideas when the stats will be entered?

Rod.

Spazzfist - Jun 22, 2006 - 07:12 AM
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Never!

Never will people accept that Clan-Skaven can be anything but a bottomfeeder! Feeding off the bottoms of others! Laughing

I don't need to bribe anyone man, the system can only handle so much - the idea of you as a champion is too much for any system to handle! Very Happy

Spazzfist
the TRUE 2006 Spike! Champion

Clan_Skaven - Jun 22, 2006 - 07:20 AM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Never!

Never will people accept that Clan-Skaven can be anything but a bottomfeeder! Feeding off the bottoms of others! Laughing

I don't need to bribe anyone man, the system can only handle so much - the idea of you as a champion is too much for any system to handle! Very Happy

Spazzfist
the TRUE 2006 Spike! Champion

Bah it stinks I tell you, the thought is the purest scent of putrid! I will get you M.OB.B. & SPAZZ....

Grrrrrrr......

Rod.

Spazzfist - Jun 22, 2006 - 07:22 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

Bah it stinks I tell you, the thought is the purest scent of putrid! I will get you M.OB.B. & SPAZZ....

Hey! Don't be lumping me in with that lot! I am an independent! They just recognize a TRUE champion when they see one! Wink

Spazz

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 22, 2006 - 04:08 PM
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For Pete's sake...someone please post the results of this tourney so it can stop already!!!!

Please mommy...make them stop!!!

CyberHare - Jun 22, 2006 - 07:53 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

I don't need to bribe anyone man, the system can only handle so much - the idea of you as a champion is too much for any system to handle! Very Happy

Ahh it's only funny because it's true Laughing

Hey while you're puttering around sulking about results not being entered you've got time to get yerself over to the Death Bowl web site and get yourself registered. If you've still got time after that go harass Talons and the rest of your crew about registering. Idol hands and all that you know... I'm just trying to keep you out of trouble Wink

Clan_Skaven - Jun 28, 2006 - 08:37 AM
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Seriously man whats taking so long???? Laughing

Rod

KarlLagerbottom - Jun 28, 2006 - 10:13 AM
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Rod-
You may lose your emoticon access if you continue to misrepresent your true feelings with these misleading smiley faces. Laughing

We all know you want your full 15 minutes.

How about this:

Idea

Yay, I won!!! Idea

Please Share it with the World!!! Exclamation

Hey, do you think ESPN.com will link to this thread? Question

EDIT: Let's please get this updated for Rod...I'd like to take a look at his Tourney Results with this Major Victory included.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 04, 2006 - 10:28 AM
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Still too early to start complaining as to where/when the results are to be in? Wink

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Jul 04, 2006 - 10:42 AM
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Ok I just spoke with Baccuus' wife & I now understand the situation. The stats are not lost (Phew.... Laughing

) Everything is ok, just some real life stuff had to take a front seat to BB (& with that the data entries). So take yer time guys & I hope all works out at home.

Rod

CyberHare - Jul 04, 2006 - 02:54 PM
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Spike? Who won that again Laughing

Spazzfist - Jul 04, 2006 - 03:26 PM
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I know that I won it on the Friday! Cool

Clan_Skaven - Jul 14, 2006 - 10:51 AM
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Any chance of posting the final standings here on NAF

Coach Name...............................................................Point Total?
1 Rod Davidson, Hell Pit Wildrats (Skaven)........................200+sportsmanship & painting scores
2
3
4
5
6
7
8
9
10

If possible that would be great, ty Rod.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 17, 2006 - 08:27 AM
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Was hoping for a B-Day gift (2006 SPIKE stats.....) , oh well my Birthday is not over yet..... maybe I'll still get it! Wink

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Jul 26, 2006 - 07:37 AM
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Well the Challenge of Q'ermmitt is over & the stats are done & there was 12 people there (2 more than the SPIKE!) .......... sooooooooooooo when is the SPIKE stats getting entered?

Rod.

Xtreme - Jul 26, 2006 - 01:12 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

So thats how you won the Spike, there was noone else there. Wink

KarlLagerbottom - Jul 26, 2006 - 03:12 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

(2 more than the SPIKE!)

Rod.

Wait...there were onlt 10 people at the Spike?
Man...that is weak.

Clan_Skaven - Jul 30, 2006 - 02:43 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Clan-Skaven wrote:

(2 more than the SPIKE!)

Rod.

Wait...there were onlt 10 people at the Spike?
Man...that is weak.

A tourney win is a tourney win, just like a Wooden Spoon is a wooden spoon, no matter who is there or how many people show up. I have now won the 2006 SPIKE & the 2006 Stunty Cup (ok so Stunty Cup is not NAF ranked but I got a sweet Deadlings (Undead Halflings) team for winning it)!

........................

Now just how much longer before the SPIKE goes in?

Rod

KarlLagerbottom - Jul 30, 2006 - 04:53 PM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

1. I'm saying that a "major" that only gets 10 people to attend is weak. This is not a coincidence...this is directly related to GW's support of their supposed flagship Blood Bowl event in Canada.

2. Definately a cool prize...for The Stunty Cup. Nice work Spazz.

Spazzfist - Jul 31, 2006 - 07:49 PM
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KarlLagerbottom wrote:

Definately a cool prize...for The Stunty Cup. Nice work Spazz.

Hey, wish I could take more credit for it, but that is all Torpor! He dontated the prize and then even suggested that it may be good for the Stunty Cup prize as it is a stunty team. (Just hope that Rod can stay sober for long enough to get them painted!) Laughing

Baccuus2099 - Aug 04, 2006 - 11:51 AM
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Okay everybody. Here's the situation. This is the first time in awhile I have been able to even have my computer in about 2 months.
We have a young lady staying with us (the reasons why are private). Said young lady had a baby 5 1/2 weeks premature. Both parents have extreme ADHD. Guys this kid doesn't sleep!
On top of not sleeping they are currently living in our livingroom because there is NO other place for them to be unless they move to another city far away from the father. The lving room is where the computer is btw.
I DO have the stats but I do not have the team sheets.
I am attempting to enter them as this goes through posting.
I can say I'm sorry for the delay but there was no other choice. This is a game guys and for us real life here had to take precadence.
Thank you,
Robyn

Spazzfist - Aug 04, 2006 - 01:42 PM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

I DO have the stats but I do not have the team sheets.
I am attempting to enter them as this goes through posting.

So why are the team sheets needed? What information are you missing? As long as you have the team names, the scores and the NAF name or real name of the person, you should be fine.

Baccuus2099 - Aug 04, 2006 - 01:58 PM
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Unfortunately I am not 100% sure of a couple of the races of the teams. They seem to have been straightened out but if there are any errors please pm Baccuus2099 and let us know asap so we can have it changed.
The tourney is now in.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 04, 2006 - 02:02 PM
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Baccuus2099 wrote:

Thankyou

Now if the man behind the NAF curtain would please push the button all would be grand!

Rod

Paul - Aug 04, 2006 - 02:09 PM
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geze Rod, what will you do with your life now?

Anyways, my games were entered in teh wrong order. My first game was against Baccus, the seocnd was against Rod.

LouisX - Aug 04, 2006 - 02:14 PM
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Woa ! It's like following a soap. Yuo can miss a few episodes, the story is the same Wink

Clan_Skaven - Aug 04, 2006 - 02:25 PM
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Paul wrote:

geze Rod, what will you do with your life now?

Anyways, my games were entered in teh wrong order. My first game was against Baccus, the seocnd was against Rod.

Ya she has no idea how to correct order , so she is going to post correct order on here in the forum to see if anyone can correct it for her or help her correct it. (her=Baccuss' wife Very Happy

)

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Aug 04, 2006 - 02:36 PM
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LouisX wrote:

Woa ! It's like following a soap. Yuo can miss a few episodes, the story is the same Wink

You bet!

Rod

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 04, 2006 - 05:37 PM
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I must have missed this before...3 Games?

A 3 Game Major?

This joke just keeps getting better. Smile

EDIT: Though I am happy for Rod that his glory is posted forever on the site. (Hopefully he now realises that he doesn't have to keep reminding us.)

Spazzfist - Aug 04, 2006 - 06:48 PM
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[quote="KarlLagerbottom"]I must have missed this before...3 Games?

A 3 Game Major?

This joke just keeps getting better. Smile

[quote]

Hasn't the Chaos Cup been three games before? I know that they have been one-day tourneys in the past.....

C'mon though Rob, Rod is the Spike! Champion for Saturday, the joke cannot get better than that! Very Happy

Spazz

LouisX - Aug 05, 2006 - 04:31 AM
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3 games are enough for americans Mr. Green

Clan_Skaven - Aug 05, 2006 - 04:37 AM
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LouisX wrote:

3 games are enough for americans Mr. Green

I'm sure Lagerbottom can secure a Wooden Spoon in 3 games or less! Shocked

Rod

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 05, 2006 - 08:08 AM
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Clan-Skaven wrote:

LouisX wrote:

3 games are enough for americans Mr. Green

I'm sure Lagerbottom can secure a Wooden Spoon in 3 games or less! Shocked

Rod

Snore...

LouisX - Aug 05, 2006 - 10:12 AM
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What did you do with all the advices we gave you Karl ? Wink

Xtreme - Aug 05, 2006 - 01:20 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

Hasn't the Chaos Cup been three games before? I know that they have been one-day tourneys in the past.....

Spazz

Not that its much better but the One-Day Chaos Cup was 4 games.

KarlLagerbottom - Aug 05, 2006 - 08:08 PM
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LouisX wrote:

What did you do with all the advices we gave you Karl ? Wink

I have used them, and appreciate the tips...I have played better at tournies with Skaven and scored most TDs at a Games Day tourney last year...of course it was a one-day tourney so I take that with a grain of salt. (Although 16 TD's in 4 games is pretty good IIRC.)

The Spoons have mostly come with Stunty Teams so don't listen to Rod. BTW, I am 1-0 against him, so he is probably just upset. Smile

Anyway...I have named my Rat Ogre after you on a couple of my teams in honor of our meeting, and your expert Skaven tutelage...next I just need to name a Gutter Runner after Longshot in honor of the last turn...length of the pitch TD with humans for the 2-1 Win. Smile

No rerolls...the ball started the turn 4 squares from his endzone and in the tacklezone of my StormVermin. Amazing!

EDIT:
Meet Louis! Smile

LouisX - Aug 06, 2006 - 01:43 AM
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Nothing could make me more happy Very Happy

Clan_Skaven - Aug 06, 2006 - 06:59 AM
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Wheres me? Laughing

Rod

Clan_Skaven - Aug 06, 2006 - 07:46 AM
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OK the 2006 SPIKE results are in but the order is totally messed up, if I post the propper order on here by round, can anyone please edit it?

ROUND 1

1 Barraq (Vampires) 100........ 1- 3 ......Clan-Skaven (Skaven) 100
2 HarryPotter (Norse) 100...... 1 - 2 ......bellowthunderslam (Orc) 100
3 skaven27 (Skaven) 100...... 5 - 0 ......daisy (Elves) 100
4 Paul (Skaven) 100...... 5 - 1...... Baccuus2099 (Orc) 100

ROUND 2

5 Barraq (Vampires) 102 ......1 - 3 ......daisy (Elves) 102
6 HarryPotter (Norse) 102 ......1 - 0 ......Baccuus2099 (Orc) 102
7 Clan-Skaven (Skaven) 102 ......5 - 0...... Paul (Skaven) 102
8 skaven27 (Skaven) 102...... 4 - 0...... Taxal (Ogres) 102

ROUND 3

9 Barraq (Vampires) 104 ......2 - 1 .......HarryPotter (Norse) 104
10 Clan-Skaven (Skaven) 104 ......4 - 0 ......skaven27 (Skaven) 104
11 bellowthunderslam (Orc) 104 .......2 - 1 ......Taxal (Ogres) 104
12 Paul (Skaven) 104 .......3 - 1 ......daisy (Elves) 104

(Also I think daisy played Wood Elves & not Elves, but I'll need confermation on that)

Hope this info helps,

~Rod

Spazzfist - Aug 19, 2006 - 05:28 PM
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Just looking at the numbers for the Spike! tourney (on both days) and I am left to wonder whether this tourney was counted as a major? The rank increases and decreases seem to be awfully low compared to other majors. Keep in mind that the majors have a set K value for attendance, regardless of the actual attendance number.

Can somebody let me know about this?

Spazz

CyberHare - Aug 20, 2006 - 10:09 AM
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The Spike Friday (Warm Up) event was set as a major but the Saturday event was not. I changed it to a major but someone will need to do a complete system recalculation to update the rankings. That or all the games need to be deleted and re-entered.

Clan_Skaven - Aug 20, 2006 - 10:40 AM
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CyberHare wrote:

Oh great theres another 3 months Exclamation

(See I used Laughing

's , don't want people getting all pissy when I'm obvviously joking (wait now I'm gonna be accused of not joking again better use more Laughing

's to make sure!)) Laughing

Rod

Spazzfist - Aug 20, 2006 - 12:49 PM
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But maybe now we will be offended by your overuse of the smilies which mocks those of us who know hot to use them properly!

Bastard!

Clan_Skaven - Aug 20, 2006 - 03:39 PM
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Spazzfist wrote:

But maybe now we will be offended by your overuse of the smilies which mocks those of us who know hot to use them properly!

Bastard!

Bahhh! Your just jealous cause I'm the 2006 SPIKE Champion! Laughing

Rod

Spazzfist - Aug 24, 2006 - 01:13 PM
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CyberHare wrote:

Okay, the joke isn't funny any more. this whole tourney was a complete mess and I would like to see it fixed once and for all now. I have spoken to Sputnik and Doubleskulls and they both say that they cannot fix this. so who can? Mad

Who is able to recalculate the system rankings?

Paul - Aug 24, 2006 - 02:02 PM
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geze, has Rod hacked Spazzs account??

Spazzfist - Aug 24, 2006 - 03:20 PM
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Paul wrote:

geze, has Rod hacked Spazzs account??

Okay, the tourney thing is not funny anymore - but that was! Laughing

Clan_Skaven - Aug 24, 2006 - 04:19 PM
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Paul wrote:

geze, has Rod hacked Spazzs account??

Well Paul, who hacked your playing ability when I beat you 5-0 Wink

& yes Spazz leave the whining to me (stop cutting my grass!)

Laughing

Rod

Taxal - Aug 27, 2006 - 04:43 PM
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my first game is not on the list...
i played against a lizardmen team and beat him 1-0
just no idea what his name was...

even on the rankings i only have 2 games played whehn i played 3.
i hope someone can fix that

and daisy did play wood elves...

taxal

Clan_Skaven - Aug 27, 2006 - 04:57 PM
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Taxal wrote:

Yes the lizardman coach was not NAF so his games do not count towards NAF rankings

Rod

Taxal - Aug 28, 2006 - 05:14 PM
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oh well next time i guess. my only win and it has to be against a non-naf player.

CRAP!!!!
Rolling Eyes

taxal