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Painting - How to do redheads?

SBG - Mar 29, 2003 - 12:22 PM
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How do you do red hair and beards??

What I do is Brown base, reddish brown than highlight with yellow. Must it's more reddish than red. What's your tip?

Fred

Darkson - Mar 29, 2003 - 05:36 PM
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Thank Nuffle, it's about painting! Laughing

SBG - Mar 29, 2003 - 08:29 PM
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I know it sounds otherwise...

Hey ! But if you guys have advice concerning the "otherwise", go ahead !

Fred

Melifaxis - Mar 30, 2003 - 10:38 AM
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Darkson wrote:

Thank Nuffle, it's about painting! Laughing

Squiggoth - Mar 31, 2003 - 12:36 AM
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I prefer blondes...

Anyway, start with Dark Flesh and then blend fiery orange / blazing orange in. For the final highlight, mix a bit of Sunburst yellow with fiery / blazing orange. It worked for my Marauders...

Martijn

Redfang - Mar 31, 2003 - 07:54 AM
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for my Dwarf slayers I started with blood red as an undercoat, then I drybrushed a (good) layer of Blazing orange then (some) Fiery orange (that's the lighter one of the two, right?) and finally a bit of yellow (sunburst, I believe)
It worked pretty good; if you want more layers, you can always start mixing paints for more layers in between...

R

BlanchPrez - Mar 31, 2003 - 07:58 AM
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I did my troll-slayers the same way as RedFang, though with only one color of Orange, and a little white drybrushed over the yellow.

Chris

hoxworth - Apr 01, 2003 - 05:28 PM
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In my opinion, it depends on the effect you are going for. The methods described above create a blazing, bright orange head (or beard) of hair, which is decent for troll slayers. However, if you're looking more for a redder hair, I generally start with a deep red color as a base, and sucessively add brighter layers of red on top of that. Generally I'll highlight with a mixture of blood red and fiery orange to create a shinier feel to the hair.

Indigo - Apr 04, 2003 - 08:36 AM
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for genuine red/ginger hair (and speaking as a ginger myself) start with dark brown and then mix either small amounts of orange or the dark red to ir (scab or gore.. can't remember which is darker)

red hair is never red or orange, it's nearer brown Smile

Squiggoth - Apr 07, 2003 - 07:51 AM
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Indigo wrote:

red hair is never red or orange, it's nearer brown Smile

Yeah right, sounds like a genuine redhead talking Wink

Martijn (dark blonde)

LouisX - Apr 07, 2003 - 10:02 AM
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I do it the other way. I put an orange base and then apply a wash of bright red. The color you want depend on the amount of water you put in your red. That's for bright red head! And then drybrus with orange mixed with yellow to your taste. (sounds like a recipie! Laughing

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By the way, what'a red head? I guess you should mail me to explain that! Laughing

Elan - Apr 09, 2003 - 07:17 AM
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For trollslayers "orange" hair try undercoat white, paint golden yellow and then ink it with orange ink - simplest way. To get a little variation between figures, change your yellow, darker and lighter tints.

For red heads, try undercoat white, paint bloodred, and then magenta ink for a smack-in-the-eye red. For a more realistic colour, try undercoating with snakebite leather, heavy drybrush with blood red and then highlighting with a 50:50 yellow/bloodred. Smile

Wadedidit - May 13, 2003 - 10:43 PM
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I do my redhaeds similar to Elan, White undercoat then I dip the brush into the orange paint and then into water, dab a bit of the water off and use the paint like a wash, this will give you a light orange colour. You need varnish after this as the colour will wear/fade quickly. After the varnish it looks fantastic.

Wade

Dave - May 15, 2003 - 05:41 AM
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dark flesh
red gore
red gore / blood red
blood red
blood red / orange
orange
orange / yellow
orange / even more yellow

that's a lot of drybrushing my friends Wink

Squiggoth - May 15, 2003 - 07:06 AM
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Drybrushing? Shame on you Dave Wink

Blending is the way,

Martijn Razz

SBG - May 15, 2003 - 09:12 AM
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Speaking of Blending... Not being an artist, that technique scares me a lot!

Could somebody explain "Blending for Dummies" to me?
Embarassed

Fred

Dave - May 15, 2003 - 11:01 AM
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could be squig but this works quite well I assure you. (Come over to look once Wink

we could even play a (2) game(s) of BB)

JasonC - May 16, 2003 - 08:03 PM
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Start with a drink.
Then tell a lie.
Then another drink.
Then a compliment....

Dave - May 16, 2003 - 11:52 PM
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Squiggoth - May 19, 2003 - 02:36 AM
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Concordia wrote:

Speaking of Blending... Not being an artist, that technique scares me a lot!

Could somebody explain "Blending for Dummies" to me?
Embarassed

Fred

Mmmm... Blending for Dummies Razz

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- Make sure your paint is quite wet - about the consistency of thick milk.
- If you paint with it, the underlying colour will show trough. The more layers you paint, the less you'll see from the underlying colour. That way you can create fluent highlights with minimal mixing.

By the way, I almost never use blending. It's layering for me really! Wink

Martijn

Squiggoth - May 19, 2003 - 02:40 AM
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Dave wrote:

(Come over to look once Wink

we could even play a (2) game(s) of BB)

Are you trying to arrange a date with me? Razz

Anyway, sounds good. Last week I massacred a Kislev army in Fantasy Battle (hurrah for Nurglings who make rear charges against Kislev Elite Cavalry!) and I've butchered Stefan's Norse team (hurrah for managing to roll 8+ on 2D6 and maiming 7 Vikings!). It's time for me to loose again (I've got a reputation to uphold!).

Martijn

Dave - May 19, 2003 - 01:19 PM
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beware, someone might think you're good at BB Laughing

Squiggoth - May 20, 2003 - 02:15 AM
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Yeah, that would be cool, it would be a VERY dim someone Very Happy

Martijn

Indigo - May 20, 2003 - 03:33 AM
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so what is the difference between layering and blending?

Squiggoth - May 20, 2003 - 05:12 AM
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Layering is when you apply paint, let it dry, mix the original colour with a bit of another colour, and apply it, leaving the edges the original colour. And so forth and so forth. By adding lighter colours to raised areas you create highlights. Adding darker shades to recesses creates shading (duh), and it can be used to meld armour with flesh on certain chaotic models (like 40K obliterators or daemon princes) It's normally less fluent than blending but it can be very precise because "layering-paint" is slightly thicker compared to "blending-paint".
I secretly prefer layering, unless I'm melding armour which I do with blends.

Martijn

Indigo - May 20, 2003 - 07:16 AM
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ah
in that case I've been layering all this time - I find that my paint dries far too quickly (even though it is watered down to the thickness of milk).

or perhaps it dries fast BECAUSE it is watered down too thin.

am I right in thinking then that, for blending, you have two close colours on a palette, then apply side by side on the mini and blend them together BUT the consistency is so thin you need to redo it a couple of times? every time I try it the colour graduations are too sharp so it looks naff close up.

hints needed for smoother blending!

Squiggoth - May 21, 2003 - 01:08 AM
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Indigo wrote:

Yes, the thinner the layer, the quicker it evaporates off course. If you soak the model however, you can finish Final Fantasy XI before the mini's dry Very Happy

Indigo wrote:

am I right in thinking then that, for blending, you have two close colours on a palette, then apply side by side on the mini and blend them together BUT the consistency is so thin you need to redo it a couple of times? every time I try it the colour graduations are too sharp so it looks naff close up.

hints needed for smoother blending!

Mmm, I think that's the way the 'Eavy Metal team works, but I'm not sure. If you want smoother blends with that method, I think you should make sure the paints on your palette are more close to each other (so mix it up a bit on the palette first). That way the colours will visually blend together a bit even before you blend them and I guess the transition will look smoother?

Martijn