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Deathwing - Jan 08, 2007 - 10:59 AM
Post subject: NAF World Cup Q&A.

Please feel free to post any questions here and we'll do our best to address them.
Thanks.

GalakStarscraper - Jan 08, 2007 - 11:11 AM
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Our mogrel teams allowed? IE ... could there be a team NBA or team Impact!

Galak

Deathwing - Jan 08, 2007 - 12:22 PM
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GalakStarscraper wrote:

Our mogrel teams allowed? IE ... could there be a team NBA or team Impact!

Galak

Tom,
Teams need to be representative of a nation. So there could in fact be several NBA teams: 'Team NBA, USA', ' Team NBA, England', 'Nuffle Blasphemers, Canada' etc. But no for true multinational 'mongrel' teams, although there's no reason not to allow an odd freebooter here and there (within reason).
In the specific (theoretical) case of a Team Impact; Ramsey, Ewan and Valen for example all have Scottish heritage, so we'd probably allow Team Impact!, Scotland consisting of those 3, two more Scots and A.N. Other (freebooter).

Bevan - Jan 08, 2007 - 01:43 PM
Post subject: Miniatures

Deathwing wrote:

All miniatures on all teams must be painted.. with a finished (flocked or sanded) base.

All my players have a green painted base but with no flock or sand. I have the number painted on the base and often renumber players when I redesign teams but any flock would prevent renumbering.

Are flocked/sanded bases really necessary, since it means all my 20 teams are illegal?

Deathwing wrote:

Miniatures must be representative of a fantasy football miniature

Many of my teams are WFB miniatures with the weapons clipped off, but no other changes, other than a football in the hand of Throwers and a glove on Catchers.

Do I need to stick shoulder pads on every model to make them a "football" miniature?

Frost - Jan 08, 2007 - 02:16 PM
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We can change the race, of Friday to Saturday to play the tourney of teams?

If everybody plays the tourney of teams, we will have to be multiple of 6 for the individual tournament?

Thank you.

Deathwing - Jan 08, 2007 - 02:57 PM
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Bevan wrote:

I honestly didn't forsee anybody having a problem with this upwards of 10 months in advance! Smile

Yes, it is the required standard.
I'm failing to understand why flocking prevents renumbering. ( I quite often do the same myself. Not the best example (it'd need to be clearer for this event), but look at the elf 2nd from the left, the no 14 is pencilled on.)
A simple flock or sand with the number indicated on the rim shouldn't be beyond anybody's capability, and can be easily painted over and changed at any point in the future.

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No. Weapon snips, footballs and gloves are fine. What we won't allow are standard space marines complete with lascannons or other silliness like napoleonic grenadiers complete with muskets etc.

Deathwing - Jan 08, 2007 - 03:47 PM
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Frost wrote:

We can change the race, of Friday to Saturday to play the tourney of teams?

No, one race per coach for all 9 games. Skills carry over.

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If everybody plays the tourney of teams, we will have to be multiple of 6 for the individual tournament?

Everybody will play in the Team tourney. The individual tourney will count points from all 9 games. The Team tourney will count the points from all team members over the 6 games on Saturday and Sunday. There is only a need to be even numbers on Friday. However on Saturday and Sunday we will need to have multiples of 12 players. We will have spare players available to make sure this is possible.

Note: We are working on getting translations posted in the various different language forums. Hopefully this will make things clearer for those who don't have English as a first language.

Darkson - Jan 08, 2007 - 06:36 PM
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Probably a stupid question, but is the WC an "open", or do you need to be a NAF member?

P.S. Can we get this up on the home page?

Bevan - Jan 08, 2007 - 09:27 PM
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Is it possible to have the 3 rounds of individual play on the 3rd day rather than the first?

Since "The onus is on coaches to get themselves organised into teams" we should not need the first day to sort out teams. There will still be freebooters needed on all days to replace sick, injured and dead coaches, so use the freebooter system from the start.

The proposed format, with the last two days in teams, will have the following effects.

The top coaches (i.e. those in the top 4-10 final placings) will probably never play each other because their teams will not be seeded against each other. A standard Swiss format would ensure that all the top coaches would have played each other so the winner would be a genuine best player, not just a winner on points. The Swiss pairing for teams will probably not pair up the teams with the best individual coaches.

It is possible that several coaches could finish the whole event undefeated, especially if they are in lower ranked teams.

The best way to do well in the individual event would be to get a group of beginners together to make a team. This team will drop to the bottom of the team grouping losing 5 of their games each time, so the best player in that group gets relatively easy matches throughout the tournament. In contrast, anyone who joins a good team will have hard matches throughout. So an average coach in a good team could lose every game, whereas an average coach in a weak team could win every game.

If the 3 individual rounds were held after the 2 days of team events then this would be enough to sort out the really good coaches from those that appeared competent only by being in lower ranked teams. It would also ensure that the best coaches did actually play against each other in the last few rounds.

Xtreme - Jan 09, 2007 - 12:43 AM
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What airport should I be looking to arrive in?
Any idea when we may have more accommodation details?

Deathwing - Jan 09, 2007 - 03:46 PM
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Bevan wrote:

It's simply not practical Bevan. It's usual to have anywhere between 5 and 10% no-shows. Hopefully it'll be less than the norm for the WC, but things inevitably crop up and cause last minute drop outs. 5% represents a significant number on a tourney of this scale and would involve a large amount of reorganisation for the team event (remember we need multiples of 12 for the team event). Of course we may lose a coach or two during the event, but bringing in the odd subsistute on Sat or Sun is a completely different thing.
In short, we do need both the first day (and probably a lot of the first evening), attempting to do it in a rush at the same time as registering 200-250+ players prior to start of play on Day 1 is a recipe for disaster. At the end of the day we have both a schedule to keep and a responsiblity to run this event smoothly.

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The proposed format, with the last two days in teams, will have the following effects.

The top coaches (i.e. those in the top 4-10 final placings) will probably never play each other because their teams will not be seeded against each other. A standard Swiss format would ensure that all the top coaches would have played each other so the winner would be a genuine best player, not just a winner on points. The Swiss pairing for teams will probably not pair up the teams with the best individual coaches.

It is possible that several coaches could finish the whole event undefeated, especially if they are in lower ranked teams.

The best way to do well in the individual event would be to get a group of beginners together to make a team. This team will drop to the bottom of the team grouping losing 5 of their games each time, so the best player in that group gets relatively easy matches throughout the tournament. In contrast, anyone who joins a good team will have hard matches throughout. So an average coach in a good team could lose every game, whereas an average coach in a weak team could win every game.

Hypothetical scenario:
A really good coach forms a team consisting of himself and 5 no-hopers to try and abuse the format.
Said coach would need to find the 5 of the worst players at the event, and hope that none of them upset the applecart by beating any of the other 'weak' coaches in the 'weak' teams they are liable to meet, therefore lifting his team away from the bottom tables. He'd also have to hope that he doesn't come across any other teams towards the bottom end that contain any other 'good' coaches.
Given that no team will play another team twice, teams will find themselves against higher or lower opposition than the nearest pure points match during any given round. Odds are he'd end up playing the best player from a 'strong' team playing on a table below their 'true' position.
Without going into the other myriad details, such a strategy would depend on so many factors that are completely beyond the hypothetical coach's control (including a vast amount of luck!) that no 'strong' BB coach would consider it a viable tactic anyway.

One last thing, the format is not 'proposed' (while we may yet tweak minor details), it's the format that the event will be following.

Deathwing - Jan 09, 2007 - 03:52 PM
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Xtreme wrote:

What airport should I be looking to arrive in?
Any idea when we may have more accommodation details?

Accommodation still undergoing discussion pending enquiries, numbers etc. In due course is about all I can give you at this point Bryan, sorry.

As for airports, the main transatlantic ones are much of a muchness in that they are all relatively close to London anyway. OMM is probably in the best position to advise on that front.

Casper - Jan 09, 2007 - 05:02 PM
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No inducements, eh?
Not even for halflings/gobos?
If (some) inducements are allowed for those little guys, we will have en greater chance of seeing a few teams of those races, and they always makes tounaments funnier, so having them (or even encouraging those races) would be a good thing (IMO anyway).

Longshot - Jan 10, 2007 - 08:59 AM
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What about Painting contest? will there be multiple awards? Can we bring a team/miniature of somebody who doesnt come to compete to it?

Dave - Jan 10, 2007 - 12:34 PM
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amen to caspar .. not even a master chef for those challenged in height (no not you ramsay)

jelmer - Jan 11, 2007 - 05:46 AM
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Team Madhobbit has allready organised itself... 6 of us will be present in Nottingham! We are about to book our flight...

antipixi - Feb 15, 2007 - 11:44 AM
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I'd really like to come and join in along with at least one of my friends. However, as teachers we can't take the Friday off (especially since it's the last day before the half term holiday). So I have a couple of questions:

1. Is it possible to arrive on the Friday evening and just play in the team event over the weekend? (And what would happen about skills?)

2. Do the points gained on the Friday carry over into the team event?

Lycos - Feb 15, 2007 - 12:00 PM
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Good questions.....I will make sure Deathwing (organiser) see's this. I too am unlikely to get that Friday off so I have the same ones!!

Topper - Feb 22, 2007 - 07:17 PM
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When will we be able to purchase tickets?
I have at least one team, and might get up to three teams over denmark.
But I´d hate to start booking flights before I know for sure we can play.

Hangus - Feb 23, 2007 - 07:20 AM
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Don't know about dates of sales Topper, but positive the dates will not change so there is no harm in booking flights now as they are a bit cheaper. But i would hold off on booking hotels as i think OMM is trying to find an offical hotel which may even be cheaper.

Topper - Feb 23, 2007 - 11:48 AM
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Well my fear is that we don´t get tickets to the main event, and then it´d suck to have booked flights Smile

Hangus - Feb 24, 2007 - 05:20 AM
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I am sure you will be fine if you let the organisers know Wink

besides the madhobbit lot have already booked flight as have a couple of the Aussies.

longfang - Feb 24, 2007 - 05:32 AM
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Topper, you will have no problem getting tickets as this tourmenent will be able to host well over two hundred coaches. As far as I know tickets will go on sale as soon as the final price is confirmed, which is waiting for catering cost. I'd say get your teams organised and assure your fellow Danes that if they come they will be in.

Topper - Feb 28, 2007 - 04:26 PM
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Oki then.
I´ll start looking for flight plans then Smile

Hangus - Feb 28, 2007 - 10:26 PM
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Excellent news Topper it'll be good to see you there

smeborg - Mar 05, 2007 - 10:12 PM
Post subject: A couple of questions

Hi Woody-

Well done you and others getting the World Cup off the ground - good boys!

(1) How does registration/ticketing work. Please bear in mind that this is a big issue for those of us planning to come long distance (I'm in New Zealand). We have first to get a team together, make sure we can get off work etc., book flights, and don't want to find that the event is full up before we have got our act together.

(2) I share Bevan's concern at the hybrid Swiss system being used (3 rounds of individual Swiss plus 6 rounds of team Swiss). Never mind deliberate attempts to bend the system (I don't worry about that sort of thing) but the fact that the best individual coaches will (mainly) be in the top teams (and therefore playing each other) must skew the individual championship results quite severely (against those coaches). This can be easily seen after the event in a mismatch between individual standings and NAF rankings, for example. I put this question because I see a real risk of the individual championship being discredited.

All the best

Smeborg

antipixi - Mar 06, 2007 - 01:18 AM
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Any news on my questions about those who can't make the Friday until the evening?

Lycos - Mar 06, 2007 - 06:40 PM
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Not that I am aware - or that has been published Antipixi.

Smeborg -- It would be great to see you here for the WC. I am not part of the organising committee on this, my NAF plate is full with other stuff.
HOWEVER, a NAF meeting agreed that 18 tickets would be held open for each country coming and therefore you will not have a problem. That is unless you leave it stupidly late. You need to bear in mind, this is not a GW ticket sale.... the NAF will decide how to allocate tickets so if you annouce 6 NZ players intend to come then they will be held back as long as feasible for you.

antipixi - Mar 07, 2007 - 01:06 AM
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Cheers for the update Lycos. Even if it is a nil return Smile

sann0638 - Mar 10, 2007 - 05:22 AM
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Hi,
can we have an idiot's guide please? Assume I know nothing about the world cup or the Eurobowl, apart from what I've read on the announcement posting. Idiot's guide could include:
- how do you get a team together, and are there unlimited teams from each country?
- can you come for Fri evening onwards only (although this isn't official yet)

And anything else that might be helpful for any passing eejit Very Happy

Ta,
Mike

Deathwing - Mar 10, 2007 - 09:07 AM
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Just to confirm, it is indeed a 3 day event. Pricing (to include meals etc) will reflect that. I know this isn't going to suit everybody, but the logistics of running a two-tier ticketing/pricing system with an option for a cheaper 2 day ticket isn't practical. We're not going to be short of attendees as it is, and to be honest we don't want to encourage an influx of (the more local) coaches on Friday evening (or even Saturday morning!).

Ticketing arrangements will follow in due course. Prior to that there will be a process of pre-registering team interest with your RTCs (which will get underway very shortly) to enable us to gauge the numbers from each country.

antipixi - Mar 28, 2007 - 03:53 PM
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I'm happy to pay for a 3 day ticket to come, but just can't take the friday off (as a teacher I'm just not allowed to). I would just like to know if there will be any chance of playing if I arrive on the Friday evening and if so what the state of play will be in regards to skills etc?

If I can play and have to start from a position of 3 games behind on skill, so be it. I'd just like to know in advance. Confused

Darkson - Apr 15, 2007 - 06:40 AM
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Is the WC going to be a major for the rankings?

Lycos - Apr 15, 2007 - 08:07 AM
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This is not an official answer Darkson, but I dont think it is. I recall asking Woody this question months ago when over his place and I think he said that if it was, with 9 games, it could have too much influence on the ranking system. Now that may have changed since. (But I recall the Dutch guys Jelmer, Milo, Benji asking me this at the Dutch Open and I knew the answer from Woody by then, so it could have over Xmas I asked that?)

Darkson - Apr 17, 2007 - 03:22 AM
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That's good news then, I can't lose to many points. Wink

Lycos - Apr 19, 2007 - 10:01 AM
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Spoke to Woody last night and he confirmed it is not a major. It is NAF ranked, all players must be NAF members to play of course, but usual ranking policy.

Hachidan - May 01, 2007 - 08:42 AM
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Am new(ish) to the NAF site and haven't as yet played in a NAF tournament but am definitely interested in playing in the World Cup. Have a team of guys that are definitely interested but I don't know if there is already an Irish team knocking around and if there is can there be more than one team from a particular country?

Any help appreciated.

Smile

miloquaser - May 01, 2007 - 09:46 AM
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More than one team is allowed.

hoomin_erra - May 01, 2007 - 10:31 AM
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And afaik, there is no Irish team yet.

Thomsy - May 14, 2007 - 03:13 AM
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Hi Just want to see if there is any news on the accomodation front yet as I have never travelled overseas and am trying to get everything booked and organised well in advance to hopefully save me from sleeping on another footpath

Lycos - May 14, 2007 - 09:31 AM
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News on this will be imminent. OMM flew over from Florida so he and Deathwing held meetings with GW and some local hotels etc this weekend. You need them to finalise some things but yes, news will be coming soon. And I dont know of any Irish team yet.

Hachidan - May 15, 2007 - 06:31 AM
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Hi,
Thanks for the responses. If there doesn't seem to be an Irish team already how do I go about officially registering one (if registration etc has started already)

Old_Man_Monkey - May 15, 2007 - 08:36 AM
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Information regarding ticket prices, the registration process, hotel, and much more will be out in the next days... The new Tournament Director, Dave Candlish (Indigo) is waiting to hear back from the RTCs regarding numbers and reservation of our opening meeting place....
almost ready to present the entire package....

Pipey - May 18, 2007 - 03:13 AM
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Quick question. Sorry if it's already been asked.

Do individual points on Friday count towards the team event once teams are formed?

Hopefully not as the players with the most points on Friday evening could get together and form an uber team with a huge headstart over the rest.

Deathwing - May 21, 2007 - 12:20 AM
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Pippy wrote:

No, team event points are scored over two days, individual event over all three.

Pipey - May 21, 2007 - 07:08 AM
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Cheers Woody.

I guess this means that team members can be drawn against eachother on Friday too?

I appreciate this won't affect the team scores but it does seem a bit counter-intuitive.

Shaniepoo1 - May 26, 2007 - 05:54 AM
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Now this is going to sound stupid i know...when do the tickets go on sale and where do i buy them?

Sharky2k - May 28, 2007 - 01:05 PM
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i cant say now if i can join, because i get a new job at the beginning of june and didn´t know if i get holidays in october.
so is it a problem to registert in the middle of july ?
because i read in the german forum that the teams have to be pr-registerd until end of june. i´m not able to say if i can join until end of june :-/
or did i unterstand something wrong ?

Pipey - Jun 02, 2007 - 09:25 AM
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Am I correct in assuming that team mates can play eachother on Friday?

Also, can you play the same opponent twice over the course of the tourney i.e. if you meet him/her on Friday in the individual event and then on Sat/Sun in the team event?

Cheers,
Brendan

Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 02, 2007 - 09:38 AM
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I believe, Pippy, we should be able to avoid such scenarios... there will be plenty of coaches to play besides those from your own team. The weekend scenario will be slightly more problematic but should not be difficult to avoid, although this may become more of an issue should the the top ranks of teams and players converge....

Doubleskulls - Jun 03, 2007 - 02:08 AM
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Jim - I'm not really sure what you are saying. Do you want to be able to stop potential team mates playing each other on the Friday? Since that doesn't impact team scores - just individual ones I don't really see the necessity. There is also only about a 5% chance of this happening with a random draw anyway - so the level of incidence can be dealt with manually if required.

Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 03, 2007 - 04:50 AM
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Only because I have heard the complaint overseas time and again: "oh, man, I travelled all this way to play my neighbor? I coulda' done that at home..." I'm not certain that I feel it's hugely important, especially on the weekend, but for the Friday I should think to avoid it if possible...
"Potential" teammates is another matter... if there are individuals in the open phase who end up on the same team, this might not be possible to avoid....
I was addressing whether "existing" teammates, who come to the World Cup as an established team, should have the possibility of playing one another....

Darkson - Jun 03, 2007 - 12:59 PM
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If there's going to be an "overall" singles winner, the singles rounds shouldn't be fudged just to avoid teammmates facing each other (imo of course Wink

Doubleskulls - Jun 03, 2007 - 01:56 PM
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I think I agree. You could put together an elite team - giving each member a better chance of individual victory since they would never have to play each other (probably Pippy's cunning plan). I'm sure he'll try the Lemsip gambit too!

Pipey - Jun 03, 2007 - 02:51 PM
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Ah, you rumbled me Razz

No just asking a question to which I didn't know the answer!

I agree with Darkson and Doubleskulls. Friday is individual only so team allegiances should not prevent opponents playing each other IMO.

Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 03, 2007 - 02:56 PM
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Fairly argued - you've convinced me, for one! But no cryin' on Friday night because your best mate just put you out of contention for a medal....! Very Happy

Hangus - Jun 11, 2007 - 01:23 AM
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If there is an individual winner and a team winner does that mean they could be team most casualties and most tds? Just an idea

Lycos - Jun 11, 2007 - 02:23 AM
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It is an idea. I would hate to stress the admins even more though! Although I am sure that could be done.

I was thinking about this.... there are going to be about 140 results entered for every round. We will have about 30 mins/maybe 45 to process all that and even if 4 of us are dedicated to just that and we allow 45 seconds per result entry (we have to ruthlessly check them etc) we still have 30 mins or so just entering results.
It is not downside - just a consideration, that one of things about such an huge tournamant is the administration required. We are are relying on 4-6 people to a) have laptops, b) we have the capability to build a network and c) GW can give us the required extras we might need.

As long as the requests dont mount up to high I am sure some things like that could be done Hangus.

Darkson - Jun 11, 2007 - 02:27 AM
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If we're using Score! at the WC, perhaps ask Joris if it's possible to code in team scores as well? That way, the results would only need to be input once, and both single and team scores can be posted each round.
No idea if it's possible or not, but if he's asked now...

Lycos - Jun 11, 2007 - 03:41 AM
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All in hand mate. Doubleskulls is already waaay ahead of you and software programme construction is in hand. No need to worry there.

Doubleskulls - Jun 11, 2007 - 04:14 AM
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Hangus wrote:

If there is an individual winner and a team winner does that mean they could be team most casualties and most tds? Just an idea

Its all supported by my program so I expect there will be individual & team most cas & most TDs.

Hangus - Jun 11, 2007 - 04:22 AM
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Nice one Ian

Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 11, 2007 - 04:54 AM
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The tournament management software has long been under discussion and design, and Doubleskulls and his team have prepared detailed notes regarding the process and what we need to manage... From the looks of it, we may have all the coaches and teams pre-loaded which will help. But the preparation of the volunteers and the assistance of the coaches and teams will go a long way to making the transition between rounds precise and timely...

Yavatol - Jun 11, 2007 - 10:12 AM
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Lycos wrote:

All in hand mate. Doubleskulls is already waaay ahead of you and software programme construction is in hand. No need to worry there.

Pff, Score could handle that years ago. But if Double Skulls wants to code up a new program specially for the WC, I don't mind. Saves me the hassle of programming in all the wishes I might not have accounted for.

Old_Man_Monkey - Jun 11, 2007 - 10:21 AM
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Sounds like an offer to help review the software to me... thanks, Yavatol! Having already created the logo, I would hate to burden you with too many requests for help on the World Cup....

Darkson - Jun 12, 2007 - 02:16 AM
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Doubleskulls wrote:

Hangus wrote:

If there is an individual winner and a team winner does that mean they could be team most casualties and most tds? Just an idea

Its all supported by my program so I expect there will be individual & team most cas & most TDs.

Just make sure you're using the most up-to-date version. Wink

Wightlord - Jun 16, 2007 - 08:58 AM
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Any news on what happens if you can't make the friday - are we free to pay the full price and then turn up on the saturday or is three day attendance obligatory?

Sizzler - Sep 05, 2007 - 04:54 AM
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Hi there, I'm just wondering whether we have to take our own pitches and templates, or whether they'll be provided at the event. I don't mind gritting my teeth and buying the £50 box set just for these things, but I'd just like to know if buying it is unnecessary and perhaps keep my dentist happy.

Thanks.

Blitzwing - Oct 11, 2007 - 04:14 AM
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Looking at the draw for the 1st round it says we some games will be in the White Hart Pub, are games going to be played there every round?

Old_Man_Monkey - Oct 11, 2007 - 05:56 AM
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Blitzwing1 wrote:

Looking at the draw for the 1st round it says we some games will be in the White Hart Pub, are games going to be played there every round?

Yes, there will be games in both locations during each round....

OMM

Blitzwing - Oct 11, 2007 - 06:17 AM
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Old_Man_Monkey wrote:

Blitzwing1 wrote:

Looking at the draw for the 1st round it says we some games will be in the White Hart Pub, are games going to be played there every round?

Yes, there will be games in both locations during each round....

OMM

Thx, looking through material I'd not picked that up at all, just that WarHammer world was the venue.

Old_Man_Monkey - Oct 11, 2007 - 08:31 AM
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Fair critique, Luke - in a quick review of the main threads it does not appear clearly that there are two venues... We will strive to make sure that everyone know this during the registration. I'm sure I was standing too close to the forest - thought everyone was aware the NAF had booked a second venue to handle the demand to play.... my mistake...

OMM

Leipziger - Oct 17, 2007 - 08:58 AM
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What time is game 9 due to finish on the Sunday?

Leipziger - Oct 17, 2007 - 09:00 AM
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Please ignore that. Just found answer.

Hudson - Oct 21, 2007 - 03:12 PM
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Just got back from the World cup and i'd like to offer up a big thanks to everyone involved. Jim and team did a fantastic job and i had 4 really great days (not so great mornings till the hangovers wore off) Was really go to see so many players. I had a great time down in the White Hart.

Cheers guys job well done and you can all go and sleep for a week now.

Thanks