Knowing a year in advance would be marvelous! I'm planning on attending this one!

Fred

Yeah, yeah, sure Fred..... just like you were planning on attending the CCKO! I could have used the win you know!

I know other Aussies are in the same boat.

I am also intending to take some language lessons where ever it is next.

Is that after none of us English could understand you last time round?

I was thought the intent was the winning country was hosting the next world cup. I would love to go to France, I hear the food there is the best.

Stay tuned here for more information in the upcoming weeks....

A nice alpine resort would be great for me, still got to go on a proper hineymoon and i think i could put the wife off till 2011.

Not in Nottingham please...

Not in Nottingham please...

Agreed.

In October/November?

I hear Ireland have asked for a place as they failed to get an extra place in the 2010 World Cup.

I am so going to get a Canadian team together for this one. Any takers from the great white north..eh?

Team Newquay bid

This isn't Eurovision... the winner does not get to host the next one. As per OMMs post France is in the running and I expect is a leading contender.

4. I look to make the choice still at the end of March but should an added week or two become needed, I ask for your patience.

That's it for now - more soon!
OMM

Further update: The decision process for the venue is on track as per previous statements. We are expecting to make the announcement at the end of this month. I am just waiting for the last of the 18 to confirm and then I will release the documentation to them.

At the end of the month, I shall probably lock a number of old threads and start some new ones so everyone knows where the information is and also where we know to look for new questions from the members. I think that is cleaner and easier, I hope you agree.

3. It could be possible to have an 'early' signing on period for those teams which attended the first WC - there would have to be a stipulation that at least four/five of the original six members are part of the group, but it may be possible.

That's it for now - more soon!
OMM

I will definately try to make this one. Doubt there will be a team Canada, but if there's a team Commonwealth that needs an extra person, then count me in.

when's spiel

Oh yeah!!!!!!!!!

With my girlfriends family all in Amsterdam that will be amazing on the wallet. Waiting for the date and will take it from there.

Any Canadians looking at making a team?

Don't count team Canada out so quickly. The chaps and chapesses on the tournament circuit in Ontario and Quebec are very keen.

Amsterdam is as good a destination as any in Europe for us so it is a helpful choice.

I have just scaled back my involvment in the three Ottawa tournaments due to new baby. Once the dust clears I should have some time available to head up the organisation of a "Team Canada". That and I became Canadian on August 12th so very motivated to represent

Maybe we should start an new thread somewhere to organise a NAF WC Team Canada. Would be able to see how many people are interested, etc.

If team canada wants a private forum on the Zlurpee forums I can set one up for you, that is where team USA will be discussing the trip.

we'll post details tonight
most probabely a date and the location and we'll get back with other details like price the 1st of december

Not to be picky but it is written that there are 400 places, wchich represent 66.6 teams... i guess the right number is 68 teams (408 coaches) ? Just making sure that there is not an odd number of teams

Please note that as it’s the NAF World Cup the title can only be won by a team consisting of coaches that have the same nationality.

A fight started over in the spanish community to see who's going, so I decided that maybe to register individually would be a good option. Didn't attend last edition, so I don't know how it works as individual... any an idea? Thanks!

In a Worl Cup you just should have some of the best teams from every country, not 10.

And who gets to decide who the "best" team is?

I dont know what was asked to the candidate but if it was to organize a tournament for 400, it was an error. It is supposed to be a feast for all the BB player not only for those that win the right to come by some random picking.

the cap is on the total number of individuals, so larger teams will just mean less teams but the same overall player cap

+1, besides, it seems it's difficult enough to arrange for 6 people in a locality to get together let alone an extra 2!

+1, besides, it seems it's difficult enough to arrange for 6 people in a locality to get together let alone an extra 2!

Huge cheat? it is. Don't you feel it could happen?

@Panda

The result of the draw will be visible on the 6th of january.
So, you know if you're capable of coming to the tournament by that date(or the 7th).
All entries after the 6th of january are on a first come first serve basis.
Does that answer your question?

Lucy

As far as I know, you have to have your team in by the 6th Feb, after that deadline I assume the places left from countries that havents subscribed enough teams will go to the over subscribed countries.

For example at the moment Canada have 2 teams registered (I think) but have 4 slots, come the 6th January if this is still the case the 2 extras go to other countries that have more teams wanting to go

Could be wrong though

That is how I think it is supposed to work as well Valen.

That is only for countries that have more teams than they are allotted, correct?
Otherwise, we have until Feb 22 to get our teams together?

To preregister your team, reply to this post by copying the following and filling in the blanks. Replies that do not use this format will be ignored and deleted.

(xcept for the madhobbit guys, strangely enough )

So, as there was no reply from last 24h (I checked, and all the organizers replies were couple of hours after original post) I want to suggest a draft mode.

We'll do an honest draft.
Lucy

would have thought they give the extra slots out evenly amongst the countries that has the demand, then they randomise that nations teams into those slots

Hi all,
As we can see in the summary in the 3rd post of the Registration thread, the only nations going heavily "out of bounds" regarding the team limit are France, Italy, UK and Spain (as expected, someone may correctly point out).
But the first nation as as many "exceeding" teams as all the others together: will there be some sort of compensation for this? Otherwise if everything stays like this there is a very high chance that all teams coming out of the final draft will be from France...

Cheers!

But, if 7 extra are available for the biggest four (for example) than everybody gets one extra and the last three will be drawn between them.
Lucy

with different countries having a different amount of teams "fair" doesn't really come into it

I see the world cup more as a good way to get a lot of coaches together from around the world

I don't think it will make a big difference to the end results anyway

neither do we .. the best player will probabely need to win 7 or 8 games, and lose none, that's gonna be a tough nail in any case.

Me venting:
My big question is this
If you do not have a registration
you do not have a rules set posted
you do not have a timetable set other than some odd time over 3 days

Why in the world are you limiting registration until after say 1 or 2 months after PAID registration and if you say you are afraid of not getting a venue I laugh at you. Why did you not start PAID registration when you knew the date.

and if your excuse is that you have no idea how much it would be to book the place you have not done your homework. Excuses are excuses but the WC should be open to all that wish to register (over a certain time period) regardless of country or overall numbers

Money talks and estimates are a dime a dozen

Well we are uncertain how many will attend. Again the homework thing.\\

Shoot high on the estimates and get more prizes (spread the love) with the surplus and a stipend for WC 2015

It is okay to ask the several thousand members of the community for help
10 people 1000 people same thing it is all about scale

Hi all,

What I do not understand is the need to wait for another month and a half before doing the second draw. Aren't 1 or 2 weeks at most enough time for the stragglers?

I sincerely appreciate your work and wish the best for the event. However, knowing many others are as disappointed as me at being left out is of little solace.

Hi Notorious_jtb, I simply wondered whether the Feb 22nd date had been chosen for a specific reason.

I can relate to your point of view, but seriously... there have been 4 years to know whether you can commit the time and resources required to attend the event. Imho, it should not be an on-the-fly decision (the pre-registration announcement was made over a month ago). It is also hard to believe that some people are hard to reach in today's age of digital and mobile communications.

In fact, the longer we wait, the more expensive flights/accommodation are going to be.

That's all.

That sounds a lot more realistic than 150 Euros. Even adding in food (3 x lunches @ 5 Euros per person per meal?), a couple of Euros for the prize fund, a few more for a freebie giveaway, a couple of Euros to cover "sundries" and then some for organisers/refs accommodation*, I'm much happier with these prices!! Something around the 40 to 45 Euro mark should cover all needs? Well done Lucy, Dutch Dave et al!!

FWIW I would fully expect the two teams which didn't get spots from Austria and Switzerland to be given priority when the remaining slots are given out, seeing as both nations only received one each originally.

I don't think you are being particularly fair. They've increased numbers more than 50% over last time - and IIRC last time was about the right size for those wanting to attend. That feels like a very generous increase at risk. Also I would anticipate several individuals and teams will drop out once they have to pay.

Teams that miss the initial draw will go onto a new list, sorted per country. No claims can be made for whatever rank a team got during the initial draw. (so being 'france #8' is just as much bad luck as being 'france #20')

Just to ask, why the italian location (able to host 3.000+ players) was discarded in favour of a location not able to host all of us?

Just to ask, why the italian location (able to host 3.000+ players) was discarded in favour of a location not able to host all of us?

Korgluk told me "ok, whithout half of spaniards, frenchs, italians and so... I don't think if I want to come yet".

Prizes:
most probabely:

Team 1,2,3 last
Individual 1,2,3, last
Sunday comeback team, individueel
Most TD individual
Most CAS individual
Best Stunty individual
Best Painting (we're not sure on the logistics of this one yet, it may be dropped or done in another way)

I'm hoping the next one isn't in europe ....

Let's assume they had booked a place big enough to hold 1000+ coaches, with the requisite cost attached, and then only 500 or so people applied - that would have been a huge increase on the cost (to the NAF and/or the players).

Yeah, it's a shame that not "everyone" that wants to go can, but that's surely better than booking somewhere we don't fill, then expecting those that do attend to pay double (or more) because the organisers were over-ambitious.

Props to the Dutch lads (and I'm not just saying that because Team Exile got picked ).

NAFWC A MODENA AVEVA COSTO ISCRIZIONE A GIOCATORE 0 (ZERO)

Yeah, it's a shame that not "everyone" that wants to go can, but that's surely better than booking somewhere we don't fill, then expecting those that do attend to pay double (or more) because the organisers were over-ambitious.

i'd also like to offer my thanks and congratulations to lucy Dave and Niels no one expected the hordes that the french and spaniards have

I'm hoping the next one isn't in europe then maybe we won't get so much bitching abouty the size of the venue if europeans have to travel long distance and spend what the us/canadian/southern hemisphere guys are having to.

Let's assume they had booked a place big enough to hold 1000+ coaches, with the requisite cost attached, and then only 500 or so people applied - that would have been a huge increase on the cost (to the NAF and/or the players).

No one expected the hordes that the french and spaniards have

Let's assume they had booked a place big enough to hold 1000+ coaches, with the requisite cost attached, and then only 500 or so people applied - that would have been a huge increase on the cost (to the NAF and/or the players).

Please, please, let's not waste energy fighting over this matter.

Let's try to find a solution together, there is still enough time to make it happen.

I agree lets not fight about this. There are still a number of things that can happen including many teams withdrawing when asked to pay for the registration. I would expect at least 10% to withdraw.

no notice every time that someone suggested to increase number of participants...

Assuming me and my team (who by the way, have traveled to over 50 international tourney's between us, 4 of us were at Ressurection in 2002, 3 at the 1st ever NAF tourney, 3 helped out at the WC in 2007, 1 ex pres) get a place at this world cup..............can we play in a Coffee Shop?

Just to ask, why the italian location (able to host 3.000+ players) was discarded in favour of a location not able to host all of us?

So here is the up to date situation: We have 3 bids all with different features and attractions. I/We have selected a panel of 18 (it was 12, 6 more are about to be asked) coaches from all over the globe. Most of the 18 are not European. We will give these 18 a breakdown of the bids and ask them to vote. A clear winner will selected. In case of a tie, I will have a casting vote.

For clarity, no coach from one of the countries putting forward a bid will have a vote. The only committee members to vote will be the TD and the FD, for obvious reasons. I only vote if tied.

I suspect that one of the main reasons Amsterdam won the vote was that it is a major city with lots of attractions to attendees outside of the BB itself coupled with the fact that it has excellent international transport links and is therefore very accessible.

I bet Del and the others will be there in a coffee shop anyway, World Cup or not World Cup
Del, can I joinT you?

Just to answer this, the process was as follows:


That's from earlier in this thread. The process was clear.

Some personal thoughts.

I suspect that one of the main reasons Amsterdam won the vote was that it is a major city with lots of attractions to attendees outside of the BB itself coupled with the fact that it has excellent international transport links and is therefore very accessible.
It's worth considering that the other bid locations may not have drawn as many coaches, Amsterdam may be a 'victim' of it's own popularity.
Or we could have ended up with a location that could take all that wanted to attend but may have been a less 'international' event.

If the chosen venue had been some vast 1000 capacity venue, with associated higher costs and transport problems, I wonder if all of those who are complaining so loudly about a process they likely know the same as I do about (that is, very very little) would then have been asking why it's so hard to get flights and why the event is do expensice and why wasn't a smaller venue chosen?

Thing is that no feedback from NAF or NAF WC organization about working to get all NAF coaches in.

Thing is that no feedback from NAF or NAF WC organization about working to get all NAF coaches in.

I have no problem with my team out. I was posting months ago about it, I was worried about it prior to got out.

Let consider to play 4 rounds each day. It will increase 25% number or allowed matches. Playing 8 rounds instead of 9, you can get all NAF players in.

Pros:

All NAF players that wanted to be in playing
Free time between rounds to socialize, smoking or tourist visiting
No side venue required

Cons:

More complex timetable (could be assumed, I guess) with gaps
Less rounds in the tourney (8 or even 7)

As Teg said. I just want to read that someone is considering something to get as most players in. That's it. Hope we are learning something.

I'll be very happy if the organizers can find an additional location near to the main location to allow everyone to take part of the event.
Please let us know if this is possible.

any chnces of future WC's being in North America, or is it always going to be in Europe?

I wasn't picked to go but I'm 100% behind the organizers. They are doing an incredible job on this. Everybody is crying coz they don't have a ticket yet and they can't be with their friends and everything. Come on, we're not in 1st grade.

If you ever organized an event you can try to imagine the amount of work they're pulling out. Before finishing the job you gotta get a good start. That's what they're doing by providing the best there is for the 420 players who are already meant to come. Once the biggest part is done, it will be time to see how to fit some more people.

And yet you've got people moaning on this thread that players at WCI had to play in the White hart (a 5min walk from Warhammer World).

I wasn't picked to go but I'm 100% behind the organizers. They are doing an incredible job on this. Everybody is crying coz they don't have a ticket yet and they can't be with their friends and everything. Come on, we're not in 1st grade.

Maybe it was already asked, but considering that almost 300 people join the first edition, and I guess we expect a lot more for the second one... is there any consideration to give priority to the teams that joined the first World Cup edition? Or all we just should to be aware to inscribe?

That is a discussion for another day/thread. But it seems unlikely due to the relative number of coaches on the European continent vs North America.
Anything can happen though and maybe Canada will put in a bid for 2015 edition............

I'd have to check but i think there are more NAF registered coaches in north America than Europe.

So I hope so otherwise its a big "eurobowl(and friends)" not a world cup

Interesting, I had not checked the actual data. hmmmm

a quick glance at the ranking page shows 21 pages of coaches for USA, 36 pages for UK. of course that doesnt take into consideration which of those coaches are active. but anyways this is not on topic, so appologies there

That statement fails to take into account that the number of pages is not related to number of coaches, as most coaches will have used more than one team. There are several with rankings on all 24.

For those who lost in the first draft.

We're looking for options to get everybody in. Since the final draw will be done in a months time and many things can change, we can't make any promises.
If everything stays as it is and nothing changes (and nobody withdraws) and we can't get the options we're looking at, then only two teams would fall out.

Lucy

In my opinion, question isn't only how many coaches ere there in each country. It's also how many coaches attend to tournaments in these countries. There are a lot of big tournaments in Europe (2 tournaments in France with more than 100 coaches in 2010, one with even 144 to only give an example). It's not because american coaches are less numerous or do like less coming to tournaments. That may be because of long distances in the country. But, according to me, a WC in Europe will have more coaches than a WC in United States or Canada.

That said, I would like the 3rd WC to take place in North America if possible, as it is the WORLD cup and so I don't want it to always take place in Europe.


But, well, let's seriously talk about it after WC II.

The numbers come from France being another small country. Just about everyone can drive an hour and be there.

The numbers come from France being another small country. Just about everyone can drive an hour and be there.

Not really. It's like Florida size wise.

French Florida?

Obviously. The home of Amsterdam gay porn *private joke inside*

Anyway, let the world Cup be the Bloodbowl Party you're talking about, and let's be happy to meet all together (if possible) to celebrate and dedicate our laughs and disapointments to (bloody!) Nuffle.

I can completely understand what Babs is saying, that the WC seems to be straying from a real 'best of each country meeting to decide best of the best' to a 'huge bundle of as many coaches from as many places in the world all celebrating our hobby'. I for one think this second option is much more preferable.

Let the game free. Take your Country ProTeam and come to beat my friendly and drunked team. We were 5th past WC...

Some people are approaching this tournament as 'Blood Bowl world party' where everyone who wants to come can come.

Sounds great to me. Although I can appreciate people who want a more structured and competitive format I find the idea of selection and qualification elitist and slightly distasteful. Everyone come and party and play I'd rather go to that tournament than one people have to qualify for.

How do we pick who goes? if I get placed at a small tournament say Newquay (12-16 players) do i then qualify for Thrud or spiky (40-60+) and do well there do i get a chance to apply. And who has earnt the right to tell me not to go!!

Didn't you come 4th at Newquay?

FAO UK Attendees:

would be interested in hearing how you've all paid & how you've got on with your Banks...?


My delightful bank Abbey, which is now Santander (& should therefore be European)...

just tried to charge me £25 for the privilege of sending the money via IBAN... (this is in addition to the actual Currency Conversion charge!)

so, it looks like i'll be using PayPal!

unless i get better advice from you lot, than i did from the Bank!

lunchmoney - anyone in your team in HSBC?

I also extend my apologies to El Prat or any other team that was excluded from attending due to limits being meet due to our inclusion in the list of teams.

I think he was more replying to Pako's* POV that the WC should be given to the "best" coaches.


* (I think it was Pako - might have been another one of his team not going, or someone else entirely in this thread).