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NAF World Cup - Where are the most coaches, continent wise that is!

Notorious_jtb - Jan 12, 2011 - 08:28 AM
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This Question came up on the WCII thread.

I thought someone might like to nerd it up with stats on the number of coaches on each continent.

We cannot just count pages for countries in the rankings section as this will not control for multiple rankings by the same coaches.

Enjoy!

lesya - Jan 12, 2011 - 09:07 AM
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i could make a script that would interrogate all the ranking page but it can be result a massive sort of "attack" to the NAF server.

If someone (Dave, Lycos... I don't know) can make the extracion or can send me the DB i can give you all the statistic you want

Rodders - Jan 12, 2011 - 09:59 AM
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According to coach status list for both Active and inactive (I've just done a few major BB plaing Nations for comparrison)

USA: 1478
UK: 937
Spain: 477
France: 454
Germany: 432
Australia 330
Italy: 260
Canada: 250
Denmark: 134
Netherlands: 108
Belgium: 70
Switzerland: 38
Austria: 31

Joemanji - Jan 12, 2011 - 04:31 PM
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Number of NAF members does not equal number of active tourney going coaches. The latter is the main (only?) consideration for the location of a future WC tournament IMO, and indeed even a subset of that group in number of coaches who have previously travelled abroad for a tournament.

For example, Yorkshire boasted about having the largest BB league in the world. with over 100 coaches. I set up a tournament in York partly as a way of getting some of those coaches involved in the tournament scene. So far I have had a grand total attendance of 1, 0 & 1 at my three events from Yorkshire League members. Many of them are NAF members, but it seems none of them fancy a tournament (even a one day one) in their backyard. Holding the WC 2015 in America might be great, but it is also very possible that many Americans won't attend even if it is on their doorstep.

Of course, we could do a FIFA and award the WC to "developing nations" like Quatar to boost the game's profile. Wink

Trentus - Jan 12, 2011 - 06:02 PM
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Do it in Canada. You'd might get around 50 on the West Coast(Seattle/Vancouver area) if it's a WC NAF event.

daloonieshaman - Jan 12, 2011 - 07:13 PM
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Trentus wrote:

Do it in Canada. You'd might get around 50 on the West Coast(Seattle/Vancouver area) if it's a WC NAF event.

We will get together with Extreme and whoever is on the east coast and do a N.A. Cup. Depending on location/time of year/cost I think we could pull close to 200

juergen - Jan 12, 2011 - 11:37 PM
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Many people (at least here in austria) just join to get some orginal BB blocking dice, suppose this is similar in other countries.

Jonny_P - Jan 12, 2011 - 11:55 PM
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Vegas baby.

daloonieshaman - Jan 13, 2011 - 12:11 AM
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Jonny_P wrote:

Vegas baby.

You got it right Jonny!
WEST COAST QUAKE 2012
Las Vegas January 14th - 15th

www.wcquake.com
(update coming soon)

beaso - Jan 13, 2011 - 12:23 AM
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I agree with Vegas as possible destination for WCIII. But according to the numbers we might have to think about having it in Australia!!!!!! It will be summer.

Valen - Jan 13, 2011 - 01:40 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Trentus wrote:

Do it in Canada. You'd might get around 50 on the West Coast(Seattle/Vancouver area) if it's a WC NAF event.

We will get together with Extreme and whoever is on the east coast and do a N.A. Cup. Depending on location/time of year/cost I think we could pull close to 200

This is the way you are going to get the world cup.

If you run a team event that pulls in over 150 guys from all over America, then all of a sudden, the NAF can see there is the demand for the world cup to come over there.

I think the main worry for people for having it in the US/Canada, is that you only get 10 teams from north america and because the European following will drop (for the same reasons you cant get alot of teams over here) we get a world cup of under 200, that isnt what people want.

Grumbledook - Jan 13, 2011 - 05:02 AM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Jonny_P wrote:

Vegas baby.

You got it right Jonny!
WEST COAST QUAKE 2012
Las Vegas January 14th - 15th

www.wcquake.com
(update coming soon)

would love to though not sure I can justify vegas twice a year what with the world series of poker as well

I imagine august is a better time to have a tournament as well, all the teachers are off on holiday, it is a cheaper time of year in vegas as well (due to the heat) and they have a peak in June/July at wsop time

great place to have a blood bowl tournament though imo

Notorious_jtb - Jan 13, 2011 - 08:11 AM
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Maybe we should consider a NA team competition in 2012/2013 to prove the concept works and that we can get 100+ coaches together for a NAF tournament.
It almost does not matter where in the Continent it is as there are many coaches on both East and West Coasts so some will need to travel anyway.
(by does not matter i mean, someone will be upset and someone will be happy wherever we host it, I smell a bidding process:) )

Perhaps we should start a thread for this in the North America Section, oh, as if by magic:

http://thenaf.net/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=75841#75841

Darkson - Jan 13, 2011 - 01:17 PM
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Galak's back yard? Wink

lunchmoney - Jan 14, 2011 - 05:02 AM
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Darkson wrote:

Galak's back yard? Wink

still OT.... but, yes, I think I'd pay to play there Razz

Lycos - Jan 15, 2011 - 01:43 PM
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I will add that had we got a North American bid this year, it would have been very seriously considered. But one did not come forward.

Valen's points above are correct though.
"If you run a team event that pulls in over 150 guys from all over America, then all of a sudden, the NAF can see there is the demand for the world cup to come over there.

I think the main worry for people for having it in the US/Canada, is that you only get 10 teams from north america and because the European following will drop (for the same reasons you cant get alot of teams over here) we get a world cup of under 200, that isnt what people want."

But we do need to get it out of Europe at some point.

Glowworm - Jan 16, 2011 - 02:26 AM
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beaso wrote:

I agree with Vegas as possible destination for WCIII. But according to the numbers we might have to think about having it in Australia!!!!!! It will be summer.

...and like the FIFA change it to a "winter" World Cup if its to hot for us Pomme's Laughing

My vote is Southern hemisphere. Someones always got to travel a large distance to play in it, its been on this side of the water twice now, a little balance must be applied.

I take the point about the number of US & Canadian teams, but i suggest that the "lack" of uptake (no disrespect intended) is due in part to the cost of travel..

And before anyone asks, yes I would plan to attend Cool

(if its the weekend after the ashes in Australia we can almost gaurantee Lycos will be in attendance, whip em at cricket & BB, must be close to Dave's idea of heaven Laughing

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lunchmoney - Jan 17, 2011 - 01:54 AM
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glowworm wrote:

(if its the weekend after the ashes in Australia we can almost gaurantee Lycos will be in attendance, whip em at cricket & BB, must be close to Dave's idea of heaven Laughing

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Does it for me too Smile

daloonieshaman - Jan 17, 2011 - 02:33 AM
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Having a WC in the US is not the lack of US teams it would be the lack of non-North American teams.
Think about this the largest number of teams allowed this year is 8 by France which is 48 coaches. You might get 3 if it was in the US. Yes attendance would be lower only because the Europeans would fail to travel. So you hold it in Europe because Europeans do not want to travel? (not every European coach just a majority)(and before you even think about starting on you having to do a little train ride or airline hop just turn it around and put it away. If you fly from NA or AUS, it is WAY WAY different)

Sebco - Jan 17, 2011 - 02:18 PM
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daloonieshaman wrote:

Yes attendance would be lower only because the Europeans would fail to travel. So you hold it in Europe because Europeans do not want to travel?

As Lycos said, WC II takes place in Europe because the 4 WC bids were in Europe, not because of a NAF willpower to have it in Europe.

Concerning the number of European coaches who would attend a WC in North America, well, I think the best way to know that number is to have the WC III in North America. Wink