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Painting - New Elf Team ...

GriffOberwald69 - Jul 23, 2003 - 06:27 AM
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Yesterday I received the New Elves boxed team, and I've to say ....
DON'T BUY IT !!! Sad

In my humble opinion :

- Too much "static" poses.
- Lost the classical GW "Elf look", right proportions e too much "Human
faces", (poor sculpted) actually the best model are the masked one
- It's difficoult to distinguish between Blitzer and Linelf
- Only one poses for Trower (but I'm not sure on this one ...)
- Really too expensive!"

Let me know what you think about it !!!

Cheers

Griff

dwarfcoach - Jul 23, 2003 - 06:46 AM
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Probably get a better response if you post this over here....

http://www.bloodbowl.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=641&start=15

AnthonyTBBF - Jul 23, 2003 - 06:46 AM
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I think the Elves are fantastic models, you sure you didn't order some Orcs? Wink

noodle1978uk - Jul 23, 2003 - 07:04 AM
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Bought the team - got them a few days ago - am still looking at them. *sigh*

They're lovely!

1) Their hands are the right size...
2) They look like "proper" elves"
3) Their poses are graceful yet realistic (come on - the high elves just look slliy with their head sized fists at their shoulders!!!)
4) Nice detail...

- The blitzers ARE hard to see, but its a kind of elven subtlety I think Wink

Too expensive? Not at all...

Well done GW - buy that team!!!

In fact my housemate likes them so much he's going to buy his own and we're gonna have a painting contest Surprised

AnthonyTBBF - Jul 23, 2003 - 08:04 AM
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I am gonna buy a team as soon as they hit the shelves here!

Tutenkharnage - Jul 23, 2003 - 08:27 AM
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I'd like to see an Elf team painted in something other than the orange on display in BB Magazine. Please, for the love of Nuffle, choose something else and post it so I can get that picture out of my mind! Smile

-Chet

noodle1978uk - Jul 23, 2003 - 08:40 AM
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Hehe - mine will be Blue and white strip... Wink

dwarfcoach - Jul 23, 2003 - 08:59 AM
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Doh, when I post a pic ignore the pads then....

Shadewe - Jul 23, 2003 - 09:51 AM
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Good or bad I am willing to buy the team.

skummy - Jul 23, 2003 - 09:53 AM
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Shadewe wrote:

Good or bad I am willing to buy the team.

Now that's a testimonial! Are you sure you don't work for GW? Wink

DonShula - Jul 23, 2003 - 09:55 AM
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Hum... PLayed against them at the BloodBowl (a GW staff coach), and sure, it wasn't the same than the 2nd edition ones... But they were nice too, IMHO.

I would try, when i will get my hands on them, to make a small conversion on a catcher... it could be something like a diving catch, if you see what i mean (arf, stupid to be french, sometimes, and unable to have an average english knowledge Wink

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Shadewe - Jul 23, 2003 - 10:04 AM
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skummy wrote:

Shadewe wrote:

Good or bad I am willing to buy the team.

Now that's a testimonial! Are you sure you don't work for GW? Wink

That would be nice if it was true. I would then be able to afford more teams. Razz

Tutenkharnage - Jul 23, 2003 - 10:49 AM
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dwarfcoach wrote:

Doh, when I post a pic ignore the pads then....

Don't worry about the pads. Heck, my GenCon tourney team has orange pads. But crikey, the whole uni? Give them points for selecting a color that hasn't been done to death, but subtract a bunch of points for selecting that particular color Wink

-Chet

dwarfcoach - Jul 23, 2003 - 10:50 AM
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My 'new' Elf Blitzer....

Any good?

(Anyone know how I make this pic appear smaller?)

BlanchPrez - Jul 23, 2003 - 11:20 AM
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I'm not sure you'd want to, that's HUGE! Nice, though.

But, to answer your question, there are tags you can use, img and /img for images. Make sure the tag is between [], then put the URL of the picture between the tags. For example, {img}http://www.website.com/picture.jpg{/img}. Of course, make sure its [], not {}. Smile

Chris

Grasshopper - Jul 23, 2003 - 11:26 AM
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I hate to say it, but the new elves look pretty dissappointing given the amount of detail on the last elf team (the gladiators with the white lions etc.) Granted the facemasks are cool but that's easily made with some green stuff. Are these to replace the wood elf of the high elf team?

Darkson - Jul 23, 2003 - 12:15 PM
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They aren't replacing any elf team. That's right, we're getting 4 elven squads.
And then we lose the undead Rolling Eyes

AnthonyTBBF - Jul 23, 2003 - 01:06 PM
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There will still be 3 Undead teams. Rolling Eyes

dwarfcoach - Jul 23, 2003 - 01:22 PM
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Yep, 2 'characterful & sensical' teams and 1 'weirdo, mixed up background' team....

AnthonyTBBF - Jul 23, 2003 - 02:00 PM
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I thought that at first too, but since then I've grown to like the idea. Keeping in mind the BB world is sort of a wacky version of the Warhammer world it is a bit easier to accept. Imagine a crazy Necromancer who pieces together a BB team from dead people bits! That's how I see it anyways.

Tutenkharnage - Jul 23, 2003 - 02:12 PM
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The only real issue, IMO, is the inclusion of the Werewolf on the Necromantic team. Blood Bowl has always had this sort of "shtick" - witness the Werewolf-Treeman interaction in Second Edition's description of the Woof Woof skill. If that isn't up your alley, just make your own house rules for the team. I know I did.

-Chet

P.S. The new Werewolf and Flesh Golem minis look awesome. Those who said GW added those players "just to sell old Frank and Wilhelm models" should know better next time!

Tutenkharnage - Jul 23, 2003 - 02:14 PM
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For the record, the NFL's Necromantic team looks much like a mirror of the Khemri:

* 0-4 Flesh Golems
* 0-2 Wights
* 0-2 Ghouls
* Loads of Zombies

If you're wondering where the Werewolves are, they're on their own team with their own Linemen, Runners, and Blitzers.

-Chet

Shadewe - Jul 23, 2003 - 05:31 PM
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I like the mirror team. I would prefer the Khemri. I don't have the 2003 annual yet so not sure of the changes from the magazine.

skummy - Jul 23, 2003 - 06:59 PM
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Shadewe: Galak keeps a very accurate running tab of what's being considered at http://www.blood-bowl.net/GWTeams/RevisedGWRosters.html . (It's also a link on our Yahoo group. Wink

Traveller - Jul 24, 2003 - 05:09 AM
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Good or bad I am willing to buy the team.

hm, willing... but i want my webarchive as complete as possible. Rolling Eyes

And i just ordered the elf team yesterday. Lets see what i will get !

Traveller

McDeth - Aug 01, 2003 - 07:57 AM
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Well i was tempted not to say anything, but in the end i cant resist.

personally i dont really like the new elf mini's. In fact to be honest i dont really like any of the new mini's that have come out the scale seems to small on everything, almost like they've shrunk in the mold.

I agree about their being no great distinction between the Blitzer and Linemen, reminds me of the Amazon team in that respect, where you spend half the turn saying, "oh is that a blitzer or a lineman".

I'm not that happy with the catchers either. One in that pose is ok, but i would have liked to see a second completely different pose.

The Thrower however i like ( Hurrah ). I've seen the new necro figures and i have to say they do look good, but the vamp figures i'll reserve judgement yuntil i've seen them all in the flesh, the one i'm painting for the Legay team is a nice model but again its too damn small.

The only bonus for me is that in the team that arrived one of the blitzers ( Well i think it was a blitzer )arrived missing an arm ( -2 AG i guess ).
Mail order despatched me a full blister to replace so i'm only 1 player off a full team Wink

Deathwing - Aug 01, 2003 - 08:25 AM
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McDeth wrote:

In fact to be honest i dont really like any of the new mini's that have come out the scale seems to small on everything, almost like they've shrunk in the mold.

Heh..you wanna see the new Griff and Varag! Shocked

AnthonyTBBF - Aug 01, 2003 - 08:37 AM
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Yes, they are the best of the new minis IMO. Varag especially! I hope they do a whole new Orc team in that style.

noodle1978uk - Aug 01, 2003 - 08:38 AM
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Well I like them - and I'm doing a really good paint job for a change - I agree with McDeth over the distinction problem - hence my use of base ring colours on these models....

Even if you don't like them, I suppose we can all be glad that there ARE new miniatures for the game....

p.s. I still prefer all the new stuff to the old 3rd ed teams. Maybe just 'cos its new, or maybe because the new minis haven't got hands bigger than their heads Surprised

McDeth - Aug 01, 2003 - 08:43 AM
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noodle1978uk wrote:

Even if you don't like them, I suppose we can all be glad that there ARE new miniatures for the game....

Oops add to my previous statement by agreeing wholeheartedly with this.

Mestari - Aug 01, 2003 - 10:20 AM
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Can't complain about that, but the elf blitzer on the first page seems like a human at first glance. Perhaps it's just the picture...

Torpor - Aug 08, 2003 - 11:25 AM
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The ears are the only thing on the blitzer that says 'It's an elf' and they are pretty hard to make out. Otherwise, it isn't a bad figure. Here is the paint job of my blitzer.

I don't think much of the pictures shown in WD 283 and BBMag 8, but then again I am not forced into any particular deadline with my painting unlike the folks at GW. Will try to get pics of the other guys posted.

Torpor

LouisX - Aug 09, 2003 - 09:39 AM
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oki, i bought the team as well and like them very much. But can someone tell me which ones are the blitzers?!? Laughing

If they're the ones with masks,i've got at least 4 of them!!! :lo:

Torpor - Aug 09, 2003 - 02:24 PM
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The catchers are the ones leaping in the air.
The throwers have the ball.
The blitzers are the ones with the full face masks.
The linemen are the ones with the partial face masks or no face mask.

Hope that helps a bit.

-Torpor

LouisX - Aug 09, 2003 - 05:36 PM
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Oki! Cheers Smile

That's really gonna be easy on the pitch! Laughing

Thetchyl - Sep 11, 2003 - 01:13 AM
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Well, I can't help but be dispappointed, I do not like the elf team at all- but maybe I just have to get used to this new (or old) style-

btw, where can I find pics of the new Griff and Varag ?

Cheers

Indigo - Sep 11, 2003 - 01:51 AM
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If you mail me I'll send them to you, or failing that try doing a search on www.talkbloodbowl.com

Send me a PM with your email in.

Thetchyl - Sep 11, 2003 - 02:03 AM
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try doing a search on www.talkbloodbowl.com

Thanks for the hint Indigo, I found them here:
http://us.games-workshop.com/news/us/events/GamesDay2003/Coverage/Baltimore/Studio/studio.htm