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 Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 05:51 AM
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jap, the last two matches of the final four were the semifinal and the final.
The first four coaches after four rounds are the ones that play for the final, and the other coaches continue normally.
Thus, the fourth must end up with two losses in the last two games. However, i like it that way. The one losing the final is indeed second place. Not like at the blood bowl, where the loser of the final was somewhere further down...
...especially since all games may end up with a draw except the final!!! 
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 06:25 AM
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| does seem odd if you played in the final, lost and didn't come second |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 07:40 AM
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| I prefer a system where you're ranked according to how well you did during the whole tourney, not just whether or not you made it to the final. That goes against the basic principle of a swiss style tournament. |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 08:33 AM
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| Nice to see I finished top half despite some awful poundings by Longfang and Indigo. First round against halflings must have helped. |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 08:55 AM
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Zombie wrote: I prefer a system where you're ranked according to how well you did during the whole tourney, not just whether or not you made it to the final. That goes against the basic principle of a swiss style tournament.
I'd agree with that. IIRC Spikey has semi-finals. So if you aren't in the top four with 2 games to go, you can't win in.
PK&Qs is pure Swiss - so although the last game on table #1 will probably decide the winner there isn't anything that guarantees it.
With a the scoring system is quite feasible for someone lower down overtake them too (between 17 and 32 points for a win, the loser gets the winner's score - 32). |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 09:11 AM
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| so the loser gets negative points? or did you mean 32 - the winners score? |
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 09:29 AM
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 01:11 PM
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Quote: I prefer a system where you're ranked according to how well you did during the whole tourney, not just whether or not you made it to the final. That goes against the basic principle of a swiss style tournament.
I basically agree! But the problem with a final (see the BB) is that there MUST be a winner, while all other games can end in a draw. Would be unfair as well if the loser lost in overtime and then drops down the rankings.
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Posted: Feb 20, 2004 - 03:08 PM
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Why the "but"? Aren't we saying the same thing?
Sputnik wrote: However, i like it that way. The one losing the final is indeed second place.
Now i'm lost. Do you like having a final or don't you?
Like i said, i don't. |
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Posted: Feb 22, 2004 - 12:47 AM
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Quote: Now i'm lost. Do you like having a final or don't you?
I have played both ways and would prefer pure swiss style.
Anyway, since the tournament rules vary so much and it is up to the organizer to decide on the details, I think IF an organizer decides to include a real "final" with the winner actually winning the cup by definition, the loser of the final should as well by definition come up second. No "but" this time, only an "if". I hope I made myself claer now. 
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