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 Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 12:46 AM
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Opus wrote: I think that elf teams are hurt by using the cage. In my opinion, you want to spread out your opponent, giving you the opportunity to dodge, handoff, and pass your way into the endzone.
Depends, dark elves can outbash a lot of races if they get a few doubles on skill rolls. I often run a mobile cage with them and control the clock vs teams I can outbash. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 03:16 AM
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| I tried caging with my dwarves against chaos in a match tonight. My dwarves didn't fare to well. (It didn't help that nuffle seemed to be in cahoots with the chaos gods for the match) |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 04:51 AM
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| With any Elf team I tend not to "cage" per se, I use what I like to think of as a rolling pocket maul to get the ball carrier open. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 06:22 AM
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Dwarfs need the tight "Star" Cage where Elfes tend to use an more open version.
Caging is important for elfes to park some turns before the opponents endzone. The error of most elf teams is that they just make a TD with high risks in 2 Turns. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 07:33 AM
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juggler434 wrote: It didn't help that nuffle seemed to be in cahoots with the chaos gods for the match
Should have guessed Nuffle is one of the many Chaos gods! |
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Posted: Feb 25, 2007 - 07:59 PM
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| I'm a Skaven team and on the weekend i used the cage against humans. It worked well but meant that it took five turns to score when i could've done it in three without the cage if need be. Think i'll go back to running in a pack. |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 03:31 AM
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Barrel05 wrote: I'm a Skaven team and on the weekend i used the cage against humans. It worked well but meant that it took five turns to score when i could've done it in three without the cage if need be. Think i'll go back to running in a pack.
You do realise that scoring in 5 turns instead of 3 is a good thing vs humans don't you?  Ideally you should score 2 or 3 turns before half time vs bashy teams (if the score would pull you level, if it puts you ahead stall till the last turn). It still gives them some hope at scoring but they'll need to take risks to pull it off which makes it easier for you to turn them over and score on their drive which will usuallly mean game won for you. |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 10:04 PM
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| Does this thread beg another thread..mainly tactics against (insert team here) |
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Posted: Feb 27, 2007 - 10:29 PM
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TuernRedvenom wrote: Barrel05 wrote: I'm a Skaven team and on the weekend i used the cage against humans. It worked well but meant that it took five turns to score when i could've done it in three without the cage if need be. Think i'll go back to running in a pack.
You do realise that scoring in 5 turns instead of 3 is a good thing vs humans don't you? Ideally you should score 2 or 3 turns before half time vs bashy teams (if the score would pull you level, if it puts you ahead stall till the last turn). It still gives them some hope at scoring but they'll need to take risks to pull it off which makes it easier for you to turn them over and score on their drive which will usuallly mean game won for you.
But if i'd scored in 3 i woulda had another chance to score before half time |
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Posted: May 18, 2007 - 05:02 AM
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I've tried using the cage a handful of times, with orcs. It doesn't matter if they're more bashy than me, they just chain-push out my ball carrier and blitz him. I think I'm not getting the formation shape right...
I tried to use a solid block, with the carrier in the middle.
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Edit: I should mention I've only really played 8 or so games (against competent players, anyway). |
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Posted: May 18, 2007 - 08:11 PM
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A cage looks more like this
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Posted: May 21, 2007 - 12:43 PM
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With a solid block, your opponent can chose who to push when he hits a player on the edge of your cage, and you ball carrier will get pushed to the edge. Not good.
Use the cage that primesupreme suggests. On the more vulnerable side, keep a few players outside of the cage to create tackle zones to prevent a blitz to the cage. Those players are also there to allow you to move the cage laterally if you need to.
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Posted: May 21, 2007 - 05:31 PM
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Players on the outside also give you someone to pass to in case they manage to get a player into your center guys tackle zone. I play DE's most of the time and I don't think I ever really cage...I just keep guys open and pass off the ball... |
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