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Post subject: A few quick questions....  PostPosted: Feb 08, 2009 - 04:27 PM



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Ok I'm sure this one has been asked numerous times.....

If a Frenzy player hits a player with Stand Firm (& Stand Firm is used) but all that was rolled was a Push Back result, does Frenzy allow a 2nd hit?

Next one...

If a player with Strip Ball gets a push Back result on a player using Stand Firm, does the ball still get stripped?


One more....


If a player with no hands (Goblin with Chainsaw) is in line to intercept the ball, can he still roll to see if the interception was successfull ? (yes I know the end result is that he can not catch it, but a successfull intercept roll could allow him to at least cause the ball to bounce from his square) Or that he was able to bat the ball down....

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Post subject: RE: A few quick questions....  PostPosted: Feb 08, 2009 - 06:46 PM
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The result of the block is irrelevant. Only the result rolled. So yes you can Frenzy a Stand Firm player (2nd hit allowed) and yes Strip Ball will remove the ball from a Stand Firm player. Looking at the skills they clearly say they are based on the result rolled and not the effect caused.

In order to roll for Interception you much actually be able to roll for a catch. No Hands forbids the player from even trying the interception roll.

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Post subject:   PostPosted: Feb 08, 2009 - 06:48 PM



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ok ty

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Post subject: Re: A few quick questions....  PostPosted: Feb 09, 2009 - 12:28 PM



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      Clan-Skaven wrote:
If a Frenzy player hits a player with Stand Firm (& Stand Firm is used) but all that was rolled was a Push Back result, does Frenzy allow a 2nd hit?


      LRB5 wrote:
Frenzy (General)
A player with this skill is a slavering psychopath who attacks his opponents in an uncontrollable rage. Unless otherwise overridden, this skill must always be used. When making a block, a player with this skill must always follow up if they can. If a 'Pushed' or 'Defender Stumbles' result was chosen, the player must immediately throw a second block against the same opponent so long as they are both still standing and adjacent. If possible the player must also follow up this second block. If the frenzied player is performing a Blitz Action then he must pay a square of Movement and must make the second block unless he has no further normal movement and cannot go for it again.


It does not say that a push back MUST result in moving the opposing player. Only that the result is applied. So yes, Frenzy works against Stand Firm.

      Clan-Skaven wrote:
If a player with Strip Ball gets a push Back result on a player using Stand Firm, does the ball still get stripped?


      LRB5 wrote:
Strip Ball (General)
When a player with this skill blocks an opponent with the ball, applying a ???Pushed??? or ???Defender Stumbles??? result will cause the opposing player to drop the ball in the square that they are pushed to, even if the opposing player is not Knocked Down.


It does not say that a push back MUST result in moving the opposing player. Only that the result is applied. So yes, Strip Ball works against Stand Firm.


      Clan-Skaven wrote:
If a player with no hands (Goblin with Chainsaw) is in line to intercept the ball, can he still roll to see if the interception was successfull ? (yes I know the end result is that he can not catch it, but a successfull intercept roll could allow him to at least cause the ball to bounce from his square) Or that he was able to bat the ball down....


      LRB5 wrote:
No Hands (Extraordinary)
The player is unable to pick up, intercept or carry the ball and will fail any catch roll automatically, either because he literally has no hands or because his hands are full. If he attempts to pick up the ball then it will bounce, and will causes a turnover if it is his team???s turn.


So no.
 
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