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 Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 09:44 AM
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I volunteer to translate the quiz. I'll need a copy about a week beforehand  |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 09:46 AM
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| As long as the ruleset does not explicitly state that the background has to be written in English, i'll be a rules lawyer and write it in German. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 09:55 AM
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Deathwing wrote: I still expect Skaven or Welfs to win it 
Did Brian give permission for his mail to be used? Either way, I think we should thank him for taking time out to answer queries.
It isn't going to change now. And as far as I can see, these rules won't effect the Main winner as realistically only five-time winners will have enough points to be in with a chance of being in the final for the Bloodbowl. The other trophy, quite rightly IMO, includes points to promote aspects that help in the running of the game (a basic understanding of the rules, a numbered and painted team with the identifiable miniatures).
I foresee the language thing causing troubles though and I can only imagine that last year's winner didn't complain as a) he didn't speak the language; b) didn't have much to complain about - he was winning the tourney afterall and c) those rules didn't have ANY requirements to speak English.
It's not really "UK-focussed" but more English-speaking-focussed which seems a little unfair. That said, the quiz could turn out to be the highlight when the contingent of Mongolian sherpas attempt to crib from the Inuits.
Surely the background can be in your own language if you don't speak English well (it's very authentic - you would expect a Khemri's team's background to be in hieroglyphics and not readily understandable). |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 10:04 AM
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Deathwing wrote: Thads, you should be keeping criticism a little more constructive, that last post was OTT IMO.
Bad few days at work...
Still, it seems the attitude in that email is "lalalala I'm not listening."
Rereading it, I'm sure he's sincere, but the rules set - if it is as it appears, and I'm taking Indigo at his word on that - seems sloppily thrown together from the Warhammer rules. This is not a set of rules for a Blood Bowl tournament. Worse, claiming there was no language problem last year when there was no language element in the scoring last year is lame.
The problem seems to be that GW Events don't realise that because we are a smaller group than the 40k and WFB fans, the big tournaments mean more. While there are Grand Tournaments worldwide - there's an advert for a 40k GT in Finland on the wall in my local games hole, there is no "Blood Bowl Scandinavia", there is no "Blood Bowl France" - because there clearly isn't enough of a market for them. It seems like the huge international representation from last year was totally ignored.
I love the idea of a quiz. I love the idea of teams all having fluff, because most of mine do anywayMaking it part of the scoring is pure madness though. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 10:14 AM
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Thadrin wrote: I love the idea of a quiz. I love the idea of teams all having fluff, because most of mine do anyway. Making it part of the scoring is pure madness though.
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 10:26 AM
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| Its all a conspiracy to get a english winner of a large tournament, they were going to ask us all to recite the national anthem to gain extra points, however this idea was shelved as tests at GW HQ showed that most could only manage the first verse before reverting to humming the tune. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 10:36 AM
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what's shoe banging?
Sounds like a dodgy fetish to me... |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 10:46 AM
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Tim wrote: As long as the ruleset does not explicitly state that the background has to be written in English, i'll be a rules lawyer and write it in German.
you stole my idea |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 12:36 PM
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Thadrin wrote: if it is as it appears, and I'm taking Indigo at his word on that
lol so now it's my fault  |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 01:19 PM
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I jumped the gun and emailed Jervis a bit early. he kindly passed it on however. Brain did point out the fanactic team had seen and agreed the rules. Perhaps we have just been unlucky with the change in staffing at fanatic.
Incidentally my piteous email was:-
Hate mail (well, pleading blood bowl mail)
Just seen the BB rules preview on the house rules website (we are assuming it's legit).
Many people have posted many things on it, largely to do with their chances of winning. I don't think I have a chance, and was keen to take goblins with all the trolls, goblins, re-rolls and weaponry I could get. With the star player rules, such a team (which should wipe itself out in a half) can't be fielded, and 16 goblins holds the same appeal as standing in for a crash test dummy. Don't suppose you could make an exception for goblin teams? Or say the double cost only applies to stars of say 90/100k or more? |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 01:35 PM
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Chris wrote: Brain did point out the fanactic team had seen and agreed the rules.
I would like to point out that with:
Andy's promotion, Steve's death, Jake's taking over, and Jervis's transition to Specialist overseer rather than hands on manager in the last months that I think you could have given any of the following things to Fanatic for the rules for BB 2004 and had them approved as okay:
1) A piece of newspaper used to wrap for fish and chips
2) The first 10 pages of Blood Bowl Magazine #1
3) The Rosetta stone
The sad thing here is I'm not joking. I already emailed Brian and told him that him saying he passed this by Fanatic was meaningless to me for this year. If he had passed it by the board of the NAF or the player members of the BBRC ... I'd say it had a good review. But Fanatic was not a useable sounding board for the rules. They were just too happy to have one less thing to deal with this year ... not a complaint ... just the truth in my opinion.
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 02:54 PM
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Indigo wrote: For the biggest BB tournament in the world, and the main GW official one, it should be striving to be a beacon of tourney running rather than trying to get by using another systems rules and ideas.
Hear, hear!
I know this will be the biggest (probably) BB tournament so far, but it seems to be the one that GW have put the least amount of thought into.
OK, so it's not Fanatic's fault, it's the Events team, but couldn't JJ and the Fanaatic crew put a bit of weight on them? [edit - Having read the rest of the thread I realise it was "okeyed" by Fanatic - surely they could do something now?] |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 02:59 PM
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Deathwing wrote: BTW, I sent Brian a link to this thread earlier, there's some very valid points been made.
Maybe a stupid question, but is Brian in the NAF, as I thought only NAF members had access to the forum? |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 03:32 PM
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Well the rules are set so there's no point in complaining. I'm sure none of will care when we are sitting in the White Hart blitzed off our arses
I see this as a good opportunity for the NAF to take more leadership and help the Events team with next year. I think we should focus on that now rather than hoping the rules will change. |
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Posted: Feb 12, 2004 - 04:23 PM
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Darkson wrote: Deathwing wrote: BTW, I sent Brian a link to this thread earlier, there's some very valid points been made.
Maybe a stupid question, but is Brian in the NAF, as I thought only NAF members had access to the forum?
I just wrote a really facetious reply,...then decided against posting it. 
(Memberlist ->username->Brian_Aderson.) |
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