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 Posted: Nov 15, 2006 - 05:03 PM
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I had asked about non-national teams like the NBA when Brian was organising it and he had daid "no", I think I could get a Team NBA to participate if allowed.  |
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Posted: Nov 15, 2006 - 08:40 PM
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 01:16 AM
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Indigo wrote:
Quite how an individual event should be organised still needs agreeing on though - maybe random draws are best so coaches have the chance of playing against truly varied opponents. Maybe seeded is best, but we have the time to discuss it at least.
Because the individual tourney has 3 days or 9 games, it might be interesting to make groups and do a round robin in it with, like in the footy world cup. 
This way you get more involved in how the other players in your group are performing which gets a little more involvement then Swiss. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 01:17 AM
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Dave wrote: I assumed that would be happening, I was just stating my worries.
What I'll really, really miss is the team spirit that makes eurobowl so different from other tournaments. The shirts, songs etc etc
Why you think the team spirit is gonna miss? At the end...probably all the players from a country are going to wear national t-shirts etc..
Maybe you are specting that some kind of players who all we know... can qualify and destroy the spirit of some teams? Then...as im specting that each country is going to have X tickets to sell...use the NAF TO as filter. And if he thinks that some player doesnt deserve to play the WC....let him at home. Maybe a little bit dictatorial...but can work. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 04:48 AM
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Grotuk wrote: And if he thinks that some player doesnt deserve to play the WC....let him at home. Maybe a little bit dictatorial...but can work.
A little bit too dictorial for my tastes. There is no way you can have a TO judge who is worthy and who is not on his personal whims. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 06:09 AM
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| But he is able to judge who is on the National team and who is not? |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 06:57 AM
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| He has some authority to do it (being a NAF official). Other than that you would be turning the World into a populairity contest. He can never make a right descicion. Best not to put him in that position in the first place. |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 07:16 AM
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Im in some way agree with you...but i still think that the National Teams compt is going to be the hardest part to solve.
I cant find any fair solution to cover all the aspects I (me myself, personal opinion, etc) will like to see solved in the WC: i.e. interesting for everybody either its on the national team or not, play diverse country players, national team have good relationship between each other (as this year EB)... |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 08:27 AM
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I know suggestions like this have been made before, but I think that the best idea would be to organise teams in exactly the same way that most archery tournaments are run:
Top 6/8/27/whatever coaches from a country are their 1st team
Next set are the 2nd team etc.
This would allow all coaches the chance to boost their country's success, increasing the team element - what you do can count towards the result! Also, I do not see how this will advantage countries with a larger contingent. Despite my patriotic fervour, I wouldn't claim (well, not totally seriously ) that all English coaches are worldbeaters.
If wanted, as well as a world tournament place for each coach and each team, the final national ranking should then be found from the placing of each country's 1st team.
This way, a coach can have a mediocre first day, then play a blinder and do his/her patriotic duty.
My two English pence. God save the Queen! |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 11:26 AM
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Grotuk wrote:
My idea is to make first day open, the 8 best players of each country goes to the Team tourney and the rest plays the individual tournament.
Just an idea.
The problem is that you are going to this tournament only with one idea, be a member of the Spanish Team, and then win the WC with Spain. I think that's not the spirit that spanish guys shows in every tournament we go. We are some friends who like play BB, shout a lot and drink beer, winning it`s not the essence of BB and you don't share this idea with us
Grotuk wrote: Why you think the team spirit is gonna miss? At the end...probably all the players from a country are going to wear national t-shirts etc.. .
When I've read this, a question has come to my head. Do you ever understand the meaning of team spirit? you really think that making a qualifying test during the first day of competition, the team spirit remains. I understand you want to play this tournament, but I think you are looking only for your own benefit, not for improving the WC.
Old_Man_Monkey wrote: What you seem to imply, Grotuk, is that only the national team members are the coaches 'worth' playing... which I will have to take exception to on face value....
However, let me say from the outset. THIS IS NOT THE MOST IMPORTANT REASON TO ATTEND as far as I'm concerned.
Just my opinion, too... 
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 11:38 AM
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Grotuk wrote: Then...as im specting that each country is going to have X tickets to sell...use the NAF TO as filter. And if he thinks that some player doesnt deserve to play the WC....let him at home. Maybe a little bit dictatorial...but can work.
You want that some NAF TO will be killed, I'm sure of this  One question, if your NAF TO thinks you don't deserve to play the WC, are you going to be agree with him, without demanding an explanation? |
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Posted: Nov 16, 2006 - 01:34 PM
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| I cant go...so all your topics are meaningless. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 02:55 AM
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Grotuk wrote: I cant go...so all your topics are meaningless.
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 10:17 AM
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Grotuk wrote: But he is able to judge who is on the National team and who is not?
might be a lot of pressure on him and he may get lot of emails saying pick me pick me, but if all them got together to choose i think taht would be fairer. |
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Posted: Nov 17, 2006 - 12:01 PM
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heres an idea for the format to be ripped to shreds:
Friday- team event / some specialist game ie beach bowl (4 games)
Saturday- Open event with everyone playing (3 games)/ 5th game of team event / talk or speed painting or something for the others.
Sunday- Open event continued (3 games) and results.
It means we have winners for Open, team, and specialist as well as the usual stuff (painting, cas, tds etc) |
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